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Speaker 1: This episode of Outspoken is brought to you by mind Tan,

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Speaker 1: where channing meets cosmetics and skincare. This is Outspoken, the

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Speaker 1: podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking.

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Speaker 1: Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torbor. We're identical triplets,

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Speaker 1: but we often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things

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Speaker 1: can get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and issues facing women. That is so thank you. Today

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Speaker 1: we're joined by Lizzie from Married at First Sight to

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Speaker 1: spill all the details about the popular show. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for speaking to us with such short notice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not to worry, guys.

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Speaker 1: How have you been keeping yourself entertained during this sort

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Speaker 1: of awful isolation period.

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Speaker 2: Lots and lots of books.

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Speaker 3: Lots of books, lots of tea candles, about two hours

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Speaker 3: in the bath every afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Like along, like zoning out kind of mood right there.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that sounds amazing. Is are there any

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Speaker 1: books you'd recommend?

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Speaker 3: I finished one yesterday and I remember the It's called

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Speaker 3: The Devil Inside. I can't remember the author, but I

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Speaker 3: just started, like literally about an hour and a half ago.

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Speaker 2: The day the lies began, so I'm getting right in

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Speaker 2: there with the drama.

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Speaker 3: And I also finished a romantic novel the other day.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're making me feel guilty because I've just been

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Speaker 1: watching Netflix and I was going to see if you

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Speaker 1: had any Netflix or even podcasts recommendations.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what? I'm actually not a TV person?

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: I know people kind of go away, They're just like,

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Speaker 2: but no, I'm not a TV person. But I if

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Speaker 2: i'm I mustn't mean. I can't believe I'm gonna admit this.

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Speaker 3: I had been watching vander Punk Rules back to back.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I used to love that back in the day.

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Speaker 1: I probably should start watching it again.

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Speaker 2: It's so trushy.

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Speaker 1: I love it. So did you watch ma Did you

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Speaker 1: watch Maths then before you went on? Or does that

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Speaker 2: Never ever watched Masks beforehand.

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Speaker 3: Knew about it obviously, because like when I was driving

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Speaker 3: to work, I was about an hour while drive every morning,

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Speaker 3: so you'd have the like the morning radio, and there

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Speaker 3: was always like a masked person on there.

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Speaker 2: But had never actually watched it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So were you approached to go on

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Speaker 1: it or were you Yes, I was I was approached,

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, because it's so funny a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Because my sisters and I wear triplets. We actually got

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Speaker 1: they were scouting out like multiple berths, but we yeah,

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Speaker 1: we said no at the time. But but how did

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Speaker 1: you were you found on Instagram or were you out

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Speaker 1: in a bad I.

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Speaker 3: Was literally at work and going on to the bathroom,

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Speaker 3: so I was Michael Hill at that point, and I

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Speaker 3: this excuse me, excuse me, And I want to accomplised

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Speaker 3: about to say this, but this is a salesperson technique.

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Speaker 2: I want to lure them back to.

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Speaker 3: And literally like, have you thought about being on reality

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Speaker 3: TV before? And I was like, no, not really, but

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Speaker 3: what show?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Like married? At first that I'm like, yeah, I heard

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, because it is kind of flattering when people

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Speaker 1: ask you, were you flattered or did you initially think nah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing this. Ah.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's not the first time I've been asked. I've

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Speaker 2: I actually I talk about this quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: On my Instagram, but I'm not sure how many people

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Speaker 3: I was literally six months into having a job, which

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Speaker 2: I literally started work that year.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, so can you tell us more about your

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Speaker 3: So basically I had a misdiagnosis and it was quite horrendous,

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Speaker 2: It is hard to manage. But yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I'd started work and done really well

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then not having a job for ten years.

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Speaker 1: Then you get scouted for a reality show, absolutely killing it.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: It was absolutely crazy that that is how it happened.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about maths. Obviously, you and seb are doing

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Speaker 1: the whole long distance thing. How is that all going?

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Speaker 3: We contact each other like every hour on the hour,

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Speaker 3: so he we what's that do the video face callao?

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Speaker 3: Is that is the video face school? So like what's

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Speaker 3: And then we talked like like first thing in the morning,

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Speaker 2: But he's going to try and get here next week.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That's so exciting because he's in Adelaide

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Speaker 1: and we're from Adelaide. And I did sort of watch

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Speaker 1: with interest your first impressions of Adelaide and it does

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Speaker 1: get a bad rap sometimes. But can you tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit more, how you know what you think

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Speaker 2: I've been a few times now.

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Speaker 3: It was more the first because I was sick for

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Speaker 2: Lifestyle, and that was the perception I did have of Adelaide.

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Speaker 3: It's actually really chill, and I love the fact there's

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Speaker 3: Little bit like my flavor. It was like a little

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Speaker 1: this should be a selling feature of this property. Just

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Speaker 1: back to maths. So once you get scouted, what sort

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Speaker 1: of the process from there. I'm assuming there's lots of

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Speaker 2: That, yeah, but my process was a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: I managed to make an impression.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I guess because I'm quite like a

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Speaker 3: Literally the next day. The next day, I had a

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Speaker 2: I actually just got it quite instantly.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Cool.

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Speaker 1: They always show the experts going and sniffing all the

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Speaker 3: I had to wear a shirt overnight, so they don't

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Speaker 2: You literally they want your own doorphins. And I thought,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm about because my life has already been

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Speaker 2: I just wanted. My life's just been different, So I thought,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, had you've had such a big TV transformation

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Speaker 3: I constantly look different, and it's so funny because it's

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Speaker 2: I love fashion. I absolutely love fashion, and I'm not just.

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Speaker 3: I feel like so many people are focused on trying

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Speaker 3: This is where I feel bad because people always go,

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Speaker 3: So with the condition that I have, it's recommended to

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Speaker 3: So I was managing a store without having had a

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Speaker 2: You need a high carb, high GI diet.

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Speaker 3: So I was literally just throwing back as much food

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Speaker 2: So that's why my weight has subsided. Oh wow, Well,

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Speaker 3: It's hard because people always want like they go, oh,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I do occasionally follow the five two diet

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Speaker 3: They're actually really lovely people. Yeah, they're just this is

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Speaker 1: So he might make a good expert then, because he

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Speaker 3: I feel like the experts need to call out a

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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it's so true. All they seem to

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Speaker 2: I kind of go with this is Look at guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't never love it. Literally.

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Speaker 3: The thing is, it's a relationship show, and that's part

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Speaker 2: It instead of kind of point you know what I mean, because.

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Speaker 3: There are people out there who don't want it and

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Speaker 1: Well, we've got to ask what really goes on at

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Speaker 2: People look like they're sweating. That's in New One.

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Speaker 4: I loved the dinner Parties and it's basically you're not

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Speaker 2: Right now, there's a lot of cheeky BUCkies.

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Speaker 3: Who hang out afterwards, like who hang out when they're

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Speaker 2: Well, you were doing that when there's no camera. Random

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like I think they're great fun.

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, I.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, there was the jury filming. There was definitely nothing.

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Speaker 3: What two things about this? First of all, you know,

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Speaker 3: Like, I genuinely feel that because you never know who

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Speaker 2: But then it's also unfortunate because I felt like there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm really that really is me and I

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Speaker 3: Look, the thing is, I can't speak for everyone's experience

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Speaker 1: We're talking about people who clearly did the wrong thing

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Speaker 3: During the interviews afterwards, right, a lot of people have

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I literally thought I'd get another asshole.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to the producers going you make sure

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Speaker 1: Well thank god I didn't get one, because se seems

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I kept saying, I'm going, why

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Speaker 2: And I's just like, you know, because I am. And

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Speaker 2: I knew about that. He showed me.

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Speaker 3: He laughed, he laughed about it. He's like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, you were You're a party girl?

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's laughing that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was a good sport for being

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Speaker 2: And I was just like, oh my god. But he

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Speaker 1: let's say, maybe he wanted it evened out or something.

443
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 2: But do you know what though, like, I feel like

444
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 2: talk about it more.

445
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 3: And that's what I really think is great about Sev

446
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 3: is that he talks about emotions and he talks about things,

447
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like, yeah, he's so open,

448
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 3: Whereas you know, I feel like there's that stigma with

449
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:15,920
Speaker 3: men that you have to be a certain way and

450
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 3: you can't talk about your emotions and how exactly you're feeling.

451
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 3: So that to me was an attractive quality about him.

452
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,239
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, ten, what about it?

453
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,719
Speaker 1: Why can't boys tan? I mean we're all trying to,

454
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, stop sun baking and you know, burning our

455
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 1: skin and potentially getting melanoma. Why can't men do that too?

456
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 1: Because they want a tan? Like men look better with

457
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 1: a tan. I don't know why they can't embrace the

458
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 1: fake Tan. Maybe that's the new thing that we'll have

459
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 1: to happen. Maybe sim should release a fake Tan. Yeah,

460
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to get on.

461
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 2: To him about it. I'm going to get onto about it.

462
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,400
Speaker 3: I think like we should also when he's here next week,

463
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 3: like for Instagram, like actually film is putting ten on.

464
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 1: Yes, that would be great. I would watch that.

465
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 2: I'll tag you guys in it.

466
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 1: Remind me, yeah, we'll share it, We'll spread the word.

467
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 2: I love it well.

468
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 1: Obviously, Sadly, trolling seems to be a big part of

469
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: the experience of going on maths and any sort of

470
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 1: reality TV show. What has your experience been with trolling?

471
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 2: I have a.

472
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 3: Very thick skin, extremely so, almost to the point where

473
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,199
Speaker 3: some people can't believe how I sort of let it

474
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 3: roll off my shoulders, right, And I think that explains itself,

475
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 3: even the fact I came back for a second time, Yeah, exactly,

476
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 3: especially when I got put like everything that had happened

477
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 3: the first time around. I would not wish that on anybody.

478
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 3: I'm glad that it happened to me, specifically that because

479
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 3: I was able to handle it.

480
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of myself for doing so.

481
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 3: I had no I knew nothing about it also, so

482
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 3: when I sat down there in the reunion everything, I

483
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: knew nothing about it. So I'm very proud of the

484
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: way that I handled myself. Unfortunately, now it's stuck with

485
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 3: it like I could people, you know, they still go

486
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 3: on about my weight as a constant, like every time, like, yeah,

487
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 3: I've googled myself, I'm going to put it out there

488
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 3: like it's always about It's always about like Lizzy's weight loss,

489
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, guys, it was literally

490
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,160
Speaker 3: for three weeks.

491
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 2: It's like a month.

492
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: They give me a break. And it's hard though, because

493
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 3: like my dms are clogged with tell us a secret

494
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, Like I was sick,

495
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: I had to have more calories. And then I've always

496
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: I had a problem with being underweight when I was

497
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 3: in my teen years.

498
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like, you know.

499
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 1: It's so frustrating because to me, you were a normal,

500
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: pretty normal size when you were on there, like the

501
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 1: first series, and then obviously, as you said, you've had

502
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: this history of you know, being underweight or being a

503
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 1: slim and build. It's just frustrating because girls will look

504
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: at that and that have a normal you know, size

505
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: ten or eight or whatever it was, and be like, oh,

506
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: is that considered big when it's normal?

507
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 3: That's what I hate about it as well, that's what

508
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 3: I hate about it. So people I was actually we

509
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: said the other day like, well, you know about a

510
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: month ago. I can't belie it's nearly been that long.

511
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 3: And I was saying to him like, the clothes I

512
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 3: was wearing with him were the same clothes that I

513
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: wore on the first series that I was on maps.

514
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 3: Now it's just the size ten, but you know I

515
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: always had stretchy size tens.

516
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

517
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, So literally though, although I've lost about ten kilos,

518
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 3: I'm still wearing some of the clothes I was wearing there.

519
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 3: And it's so weird because people are just like as

520
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 3: if it's like, like I know it has it's quite

521
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 3: it is different, Like it is quite different, but it's

522
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 3: still me.

523
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 2: So it's just weird that it's such.

524
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: A topic and it's one of the first things that

525
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 3: people ask me about when they're going guys, there needs

526
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 3: to be more of a shift. It's like, why is

527
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 3: that the most noticing about me coming back.

528
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: On And it's like all women can talk about is oh,

529
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: their weight, or that they've changed their hair color or you.

530
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: Know, it's just like, oh my god, back and I

531
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 3: think so me naturally, always changing up my appearance and everything.

532
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: I hope that females or.

533
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: In males, I hope that anyone can look at that

534
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 3: and go, oh, it's okay, what you know. Our body's

535
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: all change, you know, even women with pregnancy, Like I

536
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: know a lot of my girlfriends, you know, some of

537
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: them just had babies and that, and so their body

538
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: changes as well, and there's so much pressure for them

539
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: to get back into shape. It's like your body changes

540
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 3: throughout your life, and that should be an okay thing, exactly.

541
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: Just back to the trolling, I was quite surprised. Well

542
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: actually I shouldn't be that surprised, but I did see

543
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: a few of your former math's friends from your previous

544
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: series or friends, yeah, commenting about you appearing again. I mean,

545
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: Cyrel was quite vocal. She's had a few nasty things

546
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: to say, which which surprised me. Were you a little

547
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: bit taken aback by the comments?

548
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: Oh god, no, not with her.

549
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you gotta remember I know I

550
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: know these well, actually some of them I don't know

551
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: but I knew her, so nothing surprises me that like nothing,

552
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 3: like I think people would be shocked, but I won't

553
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: ever go down that avenue.

554
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: But people be very shocked to see how far people go.

555
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: Right, Well, she she's had a baby with someone from

556
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: Love Island.

557
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not gonna even comment on that, like honestly,

558
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 3: because like I know the ins and outs.

559
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry about commenting.

560
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm not even like but no, but honestly, good luck

561
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 3: to them, you know what I mean?

562
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: Again, like I can't.

563
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 3: I don't feel comfortable like people you know, they bag

564
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: other people out.

565
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 2: But again I knew her, and but I wish her

566
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: good luck, do you know what I mean? And I actually

567
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: I hope they're all happy.

568
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 3: It's the same as because I know a lot of

569
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 3: people go on about the Casey and Michael because I

570
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: said something I'm talking marriage. I genuinely hope that, like

571
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: they're good, Like I hope everyone is happy in their life.

572
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: And why would I want to ever wash negative, wish

573
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: negativity on someone, right.

574
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I know a few other people had to

575
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: say a few things.

576
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: But the thing is, it's like, first of all, yell

577
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: jealous exactly just.

578
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: Saying because why else.

579
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: And second of all, like I know a few of them,

580
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: like you know, they they wanted more, you know, they

581
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: wanted people to take notice of them.

582
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 2: So they were just talking about anyone on the show

583
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: this year as well.

584
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think that's what we loved about you. Obviously,

585
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: you tell it how it is, but you have that

586
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: girl code and you're not trying to just stirs. Well

587
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: you did say you were trying to stir stuff up

588
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: at the dinner, but you know you're not going out

589
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: there like Sorell and trying to pull you down to.

590
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 5: No.

591
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 2: So that's the thing.

592
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: Like obviously, you know you asked about, you know, doing

593
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: stuff like this, and you asked about the media and

594
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: even those dinner parties.

595
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: Like I say, I say it like it is, I

596
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: mean the dinner parties.

597
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: When I say I was causing like storing the pot

598
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: of bit, I was just calling out things that people

599
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: won't talk about. Well, you are on a TV show

600
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: as well, so like we've got to understand it's entertainment.

601
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. But I basically a lot of people try

602
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: to sweet things under the rugs and I'll be.

603
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 3: Like, well didn't you say this? And you said that,

604
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: and I'm like, please inform me of how that works.

605
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: But I would never ever be malicious about someone. In fact,

606
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 3: even other people who were quite horrendous about me last year,

607
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 3: like when when like the after media from last year,

608
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: I always gave people a way out and they some

609
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: people still came to me Sam so but I gave

610
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: him a way out saying, you know.

611
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: This is you know, it's part and part of it.

612
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 3: But then I kept getting you know, thrown about in

613
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: the media negatively, and I actually never said anything. I

614
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: will comment about people's actions on the show, aren't comment

615
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: about them as people.

616
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, just you know, just touching on Sam. I

617
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: saw a few articles pop up yesterday about how different

618
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: he looks now. I mean, I know you probably have

619
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: no interest in looking at his Instagram, but you check

620
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: it out. It's quite shocking. He's I don't want to though,

621
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: and it will make you feel bloody fantastic as we

622
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: know you're winning out of the situation, but you have one.

623
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: I mean, if there was a winner and a loser.

624
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: Honest you guys, really, honestly, it's hard because, like I

625
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: talk about the slandering and stuff that happened in the

626
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: media and all those things said about me that I

627
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: had no idea about, and I was kind of just

628
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 3: left there to defend myself, right.

629
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 5: I didn't like have any there was no I didn't

630
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 5: know him, So I feel really fucking bad about talking

631
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 5: about him freely because I don't know him.

632
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know him.

633
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: And even when they look like I was, you know,

634
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: having four backs and just memory remember when them to this,

635
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: you know, in this season, that was just part of

636
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 3: people to remember that, like yeah last year.

637
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, didn't you only see him at the

638
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: wedding and then he kind of pissed off.

639
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: Like then we did live together for about three days

640
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: and I'm like it was like we just cleaned and

641
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: cooked and then basically like I actually fled. So I

642
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: got sick though, and I hadn't told him that about

643
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: my illness and stuff.

644
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: I covered everything up.

645
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: So even the second time going on, I was like, okay,

646
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 3: to bit come clean with you guys.

647
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so well, and I know that producers would have

648
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: had a huge part to play in you know, both series.

649
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: Can you explain to people who might not understand the

650
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: producer contestant relationship because from what I understand, you've got

651
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: a producer that's with you the whole time or with

652
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: the couple.

653
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: There's a huge duty of care.

654
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 3: They're lovely people, and when people kind of go, all right,

655
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: so you film me for you know, sort of every day, right,

656
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: and you filming every day, and then it is also

657
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: a TV show, so they have to take the significant

658
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: parts out so they kind of rap up the situation

659
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: or whatever.

660
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: But that's it.

661
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: Well, that is really interesting because I think there's so

662
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Speaker 1: many people who don't know the role of the producer.

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Speaker 1: I did see that Michelle recently put up on okay,

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Speaker 1: which you put on her Instagram. Oh gosh, I don't

665
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Speaker 1: if you heard that.

666
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: I did hear that.

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00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's normally our cat crying in the background, thunderstorm there.

668
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Do you have? I love cats?

669
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Speaker 6: Oh really?

670
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh, we've got two rag dolls Bentley and.

671
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: A rag Do have two rag dolls? Yeah? But I

672
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: have now just Coco does.

673
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: Yours shed fur constantly.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

675
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: Now he's close to sixteen now because they last to

676
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: about twenty.

677
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my gosh, there's the most gorgeous cats.

678
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would never probably get another cat besides

679
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: the rag dog. Because they've also got that dog like nature. Yeah,

680
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 3: did you play fetch?

681
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: When?

682
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: Because we had Bentley, we call him Lord Bentley. We

683
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: had him first and before he had his sister Gig,

684
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: he did used to play fetch. But yeah, does Coco fetch?

685
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: Coco didn't, but his brother who passedwayed about two years go,

686
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: Malick did.

687
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool. I love them. I just they're

688
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: just the best, Like they follow you around, as you said,

689
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: like a dog and just I mean you can't even

690
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: have a shower or anything without them being.

691
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: I know, I love Oh, I love them, I love them.

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Speaker 1: We'll segueing back to Michelle's post. She mentioned that there

693
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: was some form of relationship at least between her and

694
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: the paparazzi and that you guys are basically warned by

695
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: producers not to talk to them. What's the reality there?

696
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Speaker 1: Do you guys have a relationship with the paparazzi or

697
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Speaker 1: is that all.

698
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: Most most of the people do the contestants do?

699
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: I do not, so I if you kind of even

700
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: do a googling like sort of search, you right, you

701
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: know how like a lot of them there's a pap

702
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 3: shot with something.

703
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they normally always pull.

704
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: The images from my Instagram because I so what that

705
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: means is the relationship they're getting paid for pap posts.

706
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Well, you know, when Casey and Michel came out, it

707
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: was so obvious that those pap shots have been set

708
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: up with them using their little hand sanitizers. So that

709
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: does not surprise me or did it kind of annoy

710
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 1: you though, that some people would do that.

711
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: What annoys me about it is the fact that.

712
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: Look, you gonna be like, look, these people are putting

713
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: themselves out there, and if they're getting paid a bit

714
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: of money to do that, good on them.

715
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? It's not my style.

716
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: Annoys me is when people assume that I have a

717
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: paid part person. Yeah, so I've been sort of people

718
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: have ever said that about me? No, I think I've

719
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: done one one one of the first time around, but

720
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: that was it and I decided never to do it

721
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: again because I just thought I can't like people might

722
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: also be surprised that, you know, you get invited invited

723
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Speaker 3: to a lot of events go while appearing on a

724
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Speaker 3: reality TV.

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Speaker 2: I basically don't go to any of them.

726
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got no interest whatsoever into being in that life.

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00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: M hm, well, how much how much would people get

728
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: paid for, you know, like a roundabout figure for setting

729
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: up a photo opportunity.

730
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: I I'm not going to go into the complete room.

731
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's much trouble.

732
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: I can get in for saying that sort of thing,

733
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: but it's not much unless it's kind of like.

734
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Speaker 1: It's not really worth it.

735
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So basically like people will get.

736
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 6: Money if they are made to look like they're with

737
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 6: someone else, which will normally be organized. Oh yeah, so

738
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 6: I've seen so much of that, so it's not genuine relationships.

739
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: So they're just paid to be with a person.

740
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: Or if bikini shots, every single person that you see

741
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: in the magazine, they go, oh, you know, that's such

742
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: an unflattering thing.

743
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: They got them in their bikinia. They got money for

744
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: their honey.

745
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so interesting. That happened all the time on The Bachelor.

746
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: I remember there were all those there, I can't even

747
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: remember their names, that there were two female contestants who

748
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: were caught kissing outside a restaurant and it's like, really,

749
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: how are the paparazzi going to know they're there at

750
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: that time?

751
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: What I want want to say, how the hell if

752
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: you're just randomly at this little boutique randomly, Hell, they're

753
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: going to know where you are.

754
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: My god. I walk around.

755
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: So there's a shopping center near my parents' house, right,

756
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: So I walk around. There were ten on like no

757
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: bra like no, like seven I went down there with

758
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: no shoes on, right, And it's kind of like, wouldn't

759
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't there be a paparazzi fuel date? Are they going

760
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: to know them?

761
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: And you never see the peppara? Well, I mean we're

762
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: in Adelaide, so okay, we'll take that with a grain

763
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: of salt. Well, whenever I'm in Melbourne or Sydney, I

764
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: never see just paparazzi out on the street. Like it's

765
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: not like la, you know, they're not just around.

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00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: I mean it's called for.

767
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: And then like if you see them out like there's

768
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: sometimes the one thing I will say though, if you

769
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: have a friend in the media, right, and then you

770
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: kind of like go to a party or something and

771
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: that they might be lingering around, right, but you've got

772
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: up and say hello to them, it's not you know,

773
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: like I don't know, it's weird. It's just a paid relationship.

774
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: You know, they're just trying to make an income as well.

775
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: I mean some of them can be quite nasty, though.

776
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what can we expect? I mean, it's it's sorry,

777
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: I say, what can we expect to see from you

778
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty? Obviously it's been interrupted by COVID nineteen?

779
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: But what can fans expect from you?

780
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: I am in a kind of like a debate to

781
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: kind of go under the raidar and basically disappear.

782
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: Again. Like I enjoy seeing how everything works right, the

783
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: whole aspects of the dynamic of a TV show.

784
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: And you know, I can't believe I actually freaking met

785
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: my boyfriend off married first, like obviously, like I wanted

786
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: to find someone, but you're going to be skeptical. I'm

787
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: going to be really real, honest, You're going to be

788
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: skeptical if you're going to have a good time. And

789
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: I can't believe I met my boyfriend, right, So it's

790
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: kind of like I just I don't know, Like I

791
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: might have a bit more fun with in the public eye,

792
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: but I don't know if.

793
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna continue down that way.

794
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we can't wait to see you. Have been

795
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: so amazing. Thank you so much for speaking with us.

796
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: We haven't talk to you, I know, so can we

797
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: and but I was like, oh, I feel bad. I

798
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: don't want to like take up the rest of your time.

799
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you so much. I'm so glad to

800
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: hear your fellow rag doll lover as well. Yeah, I

801
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: know that was a new new thing, daily Mail. I'm

802
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: just joking. Oh, thank you. It was so lovely to

803
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: talk to you. And I hope you get to see

804
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: seb with some short hair and tan soon, Like I.

805
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: Just you tell me he's booking his flights today, so

806
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: whether he gets hoored or not. But then I like,

807
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: as soon as COVID's done, like I'm going to be

808
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: an adelaide.

809
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's exciting. I was going to recommend some spots

810
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: to go to, but you know, everything shuts.

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00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: Well, I'll let you guys know. When I'm actually there,

812
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: I'll be like, come take me out, Like.

813
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely you can come and cuddle our rag

814
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: dolls as well. Sure they'd love to meet you.

815
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: Leave though I leave.

816
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: Amy's boyfriend would be happy about that because he's taken

817
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: over the rag dolls, so he's always looking for people

818
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: to take them. Yeah, anyway, we'll let you. But thank

819
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: you so much. Your absolute legend. Thanks guys, Thank you bye.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your day.

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