1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Coming up. On today's show, Sky Wheatley compares the online 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: criticism she receives to the treatment of black slaves in 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds, the emergence of the mob, wife Aesthetic, 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: and Steph Claire Smith's thirties era. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torper and I want 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: to officially welcome Amy Spurway Humphries to the podcast The 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Newly Married Woman. Now, you kept getting called Missus Sperway Humphreys. 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: You were introduced as the Spurway Humphreys. That name was 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: emblazoned on your wedding cake. Is that what you're going 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: to be known as? 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: Now? 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm very confused. I think you mean Missus Dale Brett 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Harley Spaway Humphreys. That is Dale's full name. And gosh, 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: that was the joke of the night. Just how long 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: his name actually is. Yeah, well, even Dale's best man 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: ran with it in his speech, so he did an 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: acrosstic poem and started to read out every letter of 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Dale's name with an attribute, and they ended up actually 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: having to wrap it up because it was so long. 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: We have put up a question box and we've had 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: a lot of questions coming in, so we are going 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: to do a separate subscriber episode all about the wedding. 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: But Amy, if you could tell us what was your 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: favorite part? Can you tell us some of the special details. Well, 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: you guys were joking a lot that I was the 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: anti bride, so you questioned one of my decisions leading 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: up to the wedding, which was not to have sparklers 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: at the exit. So a lot of people will have 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: really long sparklers and it looks really good on the 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: wedding video when they exit and everyone's waving them. I 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: opted instead for foam glow sticks and they're all the 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: rage on TikTok at the moment. So the idea was 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: to use them at the exit but also on the 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: dance floor, and a few friends were like, oh, like 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: in the lead up they said, Oh, I don't know 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: if that's a good idea. They were the best thing ever. 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: I have never been on a dance floor that has 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: gone off so much. I think it broke down the 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: barrier between the people that don't really know what they're 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: doing on the dance floor. Akas Yeah, because you could 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: kind of wave it around and not feel awkward that 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: there wasn't anything in your hand. So I loved it, 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: and I love that the DJ's light system was the 45 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: same coloring as the glow sticks. I was so disappointed 46 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: because at the end of the night, I realized you 47 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: could actually click the button and it would change the 48 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: patents of And they were pretty cost effective. They were 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: only a dollar each, and people took them home as 50 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: a bit of a bombing area, and a lot of 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: people said that gave them to their kids who loved them. Yeah, 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: it's the first wedding that I've been to that had them, 53 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: and I felt like they were a really good talking 54 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: point and something a little bit different. A lot of 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: people were saying that I need them for my wedding 56 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: dance floor because my partner's family loved to dance. But 57 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: I think that the tour beers need the glow sticks 58 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: back to feel comfortable. Well, you can get different colored ones. 59 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: I think you should go gold because you are getting 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: married at Golding's kind of ties in. It's a little 61 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: bit different. I would highly recommend anyone who's planning a 62 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: wedding for this year and next year go and get them. 63 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: They are like unbeliev Where do you get them from? Well, 64 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: you can get them on Amazon, you can get them 65 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: on eBay. Okay. Now, apart from the dance floor, because 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: it was very epic, what were some other special moments 67 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: during the day. I think the celebrant, Drinda Haffner, was 68 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: an absolute highlight. We've spoken in the past about her. 69 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: She was so funny. My stomach was just so sore laughing, 70 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: and everyone rushed up to me after the ceremony and 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: just was gushing about her. Not only was she funny, 72 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: she was sincere. She just added just another element. Because 73 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: it was one of those boring, stuffy ceremonies, everyone got involved. 74 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't drink and I took a shot 75 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: of rum because it's a good life feeling. It was 76 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: the Dutch courage you then needed for your kiss down 77 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the aisle because we did have to count down ten seconds. 78 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: Everyone in the crowd was counting down for your long kiss. 79 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I had to avert my eyes. I felt too awkward. 80 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of like seeing your parents kids. My other 81 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: favorite moment from Derinda was that she had a little 82 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: bottle of oil that she kept in her bra that 83 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: she pulled out to put on the wedding bands in 84 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: case they didn't go onto your finger properly. That was 85 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: another life. She thought of everything. She even had bubbles. 86 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: And a few people commented on my Instagram who listened 87 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: to the podcast, and they said, great job with the confetti. 88 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: After we spoke about how I was whole punching every 89 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: last piece. That wasn't the confetti that I made. That 90 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: was the confetti that Sophie two days out from the 91 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: wedding said, please use my confetti that I've ordered. I'm 92 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: going to get slaw because I can't stand seeing you 93 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: have to cut it all out. I did think that 94 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: was a pretty selfless act of me. I brought that 95 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: confetti back in August when it was on super sale. 96 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: I was very organized. I do have to say that 97 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: my color choice of confetti, it looked incredible in the 98 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: beautiful Well you were saying it was kind of good 99 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: because you got a bit of an insight into what 100 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: it would look like. So are you're going to go 101 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: with the same color? I am, because it does match 102 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: my theme quite well. Another big thing in your ceremony 103 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: was Derinda saying that you guys are set to have 104 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: either one or two sets of twins, because she's put 105 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: it out to the universe that she would like you 106 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: to have twins. And apparently she's got an eighty seven 107 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: percent strike rate in her couples that she does weddings 108 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: for that have had twins. That's pretty incredible. Even when 109 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: we were at the rehearsal, she goes, oh, yeah, my 110 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: pa was just just rang me the other day. Got 111 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: a call. There's another one. Another said, do you think 112 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: she wanted to do your wedding because genetically you're probably 113 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: more predisposition to have multiples. I'm not actually sure, but 114 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: she says she does some kind of spiritual ceremony the 115 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: night before the wedding and she will ask that you 116 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: are blessed with twins. Well, I suppose we have to 117 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: wait and see what happens. And as we said, Amy, 118 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: you will be talking in more depth about your wedding 119 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: on Outspoken Plus on Thursday for those who want to 120 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: hear it. Sky Wheatley has compared the criticism that she 121 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: receives online to the plight of black people who escape 122 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: slavery in the eighteen hundreds. Now, this all started when 123 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: Sky provided her review of emancipation which is a new 124 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: movie starring Will Smith that tells the Harring story of 125 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: a man who escaped from slavery. Let's throw to what 126 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: Sky said. 127 00:05:53,920 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: Firstly, I cannot believe how fucked people treated POC back 128 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: in the day, Like it makes me fucking sick to 129 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 3: my stomach. 130 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: But not even like POC, like. 131 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: The way people treated other people in general, like the 132 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: whites were so fucking foul and disgusting to treat Poc 133 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: the way they did, but even like the way that 134 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: everyone just treated each other, Like the war and everything 135 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: else that happened and went on in the world, you know, 136 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: back in the day, absolutely baffles my fucking mind, Like 137 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: we actually have come so far. 138 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: I could almost see the cogs turning in her head, 139 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: trying so hard not to say something wrong, but not 140 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: having the ability to articulate it properly. Not to be fair, 141 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: she did acknowledge that she has a lot to learn 142 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: about history, and she said that she's not educated on 143 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: certain topics because she's too empathetic. She did go on 144 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: to say that society has moved on in terms of quote, 145 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: beheading people and shit, but we also haven't come that 146 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: far in terms of bullying and nastiness online, and she 147 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: referred to it as a new breed of hatred. The 148 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: awkward part about this whole thing is that it's clear 149 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: that while Sky was watching the movie, she saw similarities 150 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: between will Smith's character and herself, because she explained that 151 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: when people can see how strong, kind and loving people are, 152 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: it sparks insecurity in others. She then unbelievably compared dealing 153 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: with online criticism to black people escaping slavery. This is 154 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: what she said. 155 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: I went to my nail appointment this morning, and my 156 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: nail lady was like, fucking yet a lot of shit. 157 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Don't you like for doing anything, for like breathing. 158 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I do, but it's all right because 159 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of a compliment, don't I think 160 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: people can see that. 161 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: I can't be broken. I can't be broken. Oh. I 162 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: actually don't fucking know why, but I think it is 163 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: because I don't know. 164 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: I'm a pretty cool gal, and I'm pretty self absorbed 165 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: and self obsessed. Now. 166 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm just like confident in myself and I. 167 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 4: Really believe in my heart and I love who I 168 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: am as a person, and I think that pisses people off. 169 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: This post came off the back of a big week 170 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: for Sky. She had copped criticism for talking about her 171 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: cellulite and then also for pretending that she was pregnant 172 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: and then saying that she was joking. So it's quite 173 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: clear that she felt like she'd had a bad week. 174 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: Flick this movie on, and as you say, Kate, do 175 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: you're the strange comparison between herself and Will Smith's character. 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: It seems like Sky must be one of those people 177 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: who have the ability to turn any topic back onto themselves. 178 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: It's just so clear that she has main character energy 179 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: going on. It absolutely blows my mind that she continues 180 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: to think that it's a good idea to speak about 181 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: these types of topics on her platform, and comparing people 182 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: holding her her accountable when she continuously makes problematic comments 183 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: is in no way comparable to what Black Slaves went through. 184 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: I don't even think we need to point that out. 185 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: I think that's fairly obvious. This is the most idiotic 186 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: brand I have ever probably heard on her channel, and 187 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: that is saying something. I was in disbelief when she 188 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: put out this Instagram story. It's like she's looking for 189 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: trouble and it's really awkward. Because I don't think she's 190 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: intelligent enough to realize how offensive those comments were. I 191 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: do feel bad when you say stuff like that because 192 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: I personally think that Sky doesn't actually have a bad 193 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: bone in her body. I think sometimes she doesn't think 194 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: before she posts, But how many times do people have 195 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: to tell her to think before she's posting to five 196 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people. How does she think it's a good 197 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: idea to be talking on these topics. It's just mind blowing, 198 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I know that there was a stage 199 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: when any time a huge world issue happened, influencers felt 200 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: like obliged that they had to say something. They had 201 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: to either put a tile or have a comment about it. 202 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: We're at a stage now where I think there's so 203 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: many different niches online, particularly now we've got TikTok, that 204 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: we don't need these people to be commenting on matters 205 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: that they're so uneducated on. I think it is a 206 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: good thing that she's educating herself by watching these movies, 207 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: but we really do not need to hear your summary 208 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: and somehow see how you inject yourself into the story. 209 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: I means that has nothing to do with you. She 210 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: clearly didn't understand the message if she was able to 211 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: center herself in the narrative and compare what a blonde, 212 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: white woman has been through because she gets a few 213 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: comments that troll her. Now, in other Sky Wheatley News, 214 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: the influencer has revealed that she and her baby daddy 215 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: Lockie Wore, are in couples counseling. So what started office 216 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: therapy for their five year old son Forrest, quickly turned 217 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: into a couple's counseling session for the parents. And during 218 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: the first session for Forest, apparently Locky let loose on 219 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: the phone, so it was a phone session, and according 220 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: to Sky, he explained the issues were within the family unit, 221 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: not just about Forest. This is what Sky had to 222 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: say about it. 223 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: Lackie and I went to a counseling session yesterday. It's 224 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: actually like an ot for Forrest. But I'm like, you 225 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: know what, let's start with the parents because we're broken 226 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: and I know that his behaviors are being modeled from us, 227 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: so I'm like, let's fix the problem. 228 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: He's not the problem. I feel a bit uncomfortable with 229 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: parents publicly talking about their children's therapy sessions. I don't 230 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: think that there should be any taboo around therapy, but 231 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: I think that it's a private matter for the child 232 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: airce we probably shouldn't be commenting on parenting matters. Because 233 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: last week, when we were talking about the way Steph 234 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: klas Smith spoke about her toddler being a bit of 235 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: a nightmare on their holiday, all the parents came out 236 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: of the woodwork in our Facebook group, which I really 237 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: enjoyed because this is all about sharing opinions and learning, 238 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: and they were saying, actually, we loved it. It was great, 239 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: and you know, toddler's can be nightmares to be around. 240 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: So maybe Sky is actually providing some sort of support 241 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: and help to people that are in a similar situation. 242 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: The thing is, she is never private about her relationship 243 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: or her family, and it isn't the first time Sky 244 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: and Lockey have sought the help of a couple's counselors. 245 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: So they actually stopped visiting their last counselor because Sky 246 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: said she got the ick from her and she felt 247 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: very judged and uncomfortable during the session. She said, this 248 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: time around, she is hoping to get some mental clarity, 249 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: calm her mind, and get some strategies in place to 250 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: help with her life. She finished up by saying that 251 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: she will continue to share more as they progress through 252 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: this therapy session. I don't have any issues with her 253 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: sharing about her relationship. We've discussed this before. I think 254 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: it is quite healthy to see people not in this 255 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: picture perfect relationship. But yeah, I just find the mention 256 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: of your child going through therapy and that you know 257 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: your husband or partner sorry says it's more to do 258 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: with the family, you know. I just find that a 259 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: little bit awkward and a bit unnecessary. Is all this 260 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: content coming off the back of Sky asking her followers 261 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: what they want, As someone said, Oh, I want your 262 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: movie reviews, and I want to hear how every movie 263 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: you watch relates to your life. We want to hear 264 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: more about your kids in counseling. I do think that 265 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: she is smart enough to have seen that her followers 266 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: are dropping and that her audience want controversy and they 267 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: want juicy information about her relationship. I mean, it was 268 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: only back in February last year that she shared with 269 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: her TikTok audience that her and Lockie were on a 270 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: break and trialing co parenting. I mean it didn't last 271 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: too long because Lockie apparently begged Sky to return home. 272 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: So I think that we're going to be hearing a 273 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: lot about these counseling sessions. TikTok has spoken, and there 274 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: is a new esthetic for twenty twenty four We are 275 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: apparently entering the mob wife era. So forget the clean 276 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: geral aesthetic. It's all about bold, red lips and nails, 277 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: fur coats and gold, chunky jewelry. TikTok is already filled 278 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: with lots of these videos explaining how to get the 279 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: mob wife look. And it was like a light bulb 280 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: went off in my head because I've been seeing a 281 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: lot of celebrities and influences in the UK and also 282 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: in America all wearing fur coats and very big blow 283 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: waves and these chunky jewelry, which is so vastly different 284 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: to the clean gir aesthetic and what we've been seeing 285 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: in recent times. So like it's very twenty fourteen. I 286 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: mean we are now a decade out from that year, 287 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: but I remember back then buying the chunky jewelry. It's 288 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: not quite the statement pieces now the early twenty tens. 289 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: But I mean, blow waves aren't really a new thing. 290 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: But I suppose it's all of those glamorous elements put 291 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: all together at once. Well, the most coveted item is 292 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: the fur coat, which has to be vintage or fake 293 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: because we're not trying to encourage the fur trade here. 294 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: It's also about having fun with animal prints, and again 295 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: fake animal prints. So I kind of get the vibe 296 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: of fran Fine from the nanny she wore a lot 297 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: of animal print that it's kind of a tacky animal prints. See, 298 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't like this again. I remember back in you know, 299 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, twenty twelve, leopard print was a thing. I mean, 300 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: the Kardashians were big on bringing that back in. Yeah, 301 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm not ready for the mob wife look. I think 302 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of effort. I mean, I know 303 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: the joke of the whole clean girl esthetic is that 304 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: it's meant to be an effortless look that actually takes 305 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: a while to achieve. But I don't want to be 306 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: wearing red lipstick and red. The thing is the other look. 307 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: If you're not a fan of the fur coats and 308 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the animal print. They're also saying online that you kind 309 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: of want to look like you're mourning the death of 310 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: your fake mobs to husband, so you can dress head 311 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: to toe in black. That's well, I mean, I mean 312 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: if it's black leggings and a black jumper, but I'm 313 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: not really into that. I wonder how the likes of 314 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Matilda Dirf and those trendsetters that really push this clean 315 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: girl aesthetic are going to go, like, are they going 316 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: to jump ship? Are we going to see them incorporating 317 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: these looks? So they're going to stick with what they know. 318 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: I think they're definitely going to stick with what they know. 319 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: This is for a specific niche of people. I don't 320 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: think everyone, So I can't see you you like to 321 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: follow a trend. I can't see you suddenly becoming a 322 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: mobile wife. It has not really grabbed me, but Kylie 323 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: Jenne and Hailey Bieber have been rocking it at the moment, 324 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily that you need to do all 325 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: of the things. The one thing that I am excited 326 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: about is moving away from the clean girl makeup because 327 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I can't do clean girl makeup. I love the way 328 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: it looks, but I don't have the sort of skin 329 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: for it. So with the mob wife makeup, it's about 330 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: kind of being a bit messy, having a smoky eye, 331 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: embracing pale skin as well. So we're moving away from 332 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: the fake tan to will be a bit more pale. 333 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: And you also want to wear big black shades that 334 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: basically are set to block out your haters. So I'm 335 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: liking it. And it's not just about the way you 336 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: dress as well, it's your attitude. Let's throw to how 337 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: one TikToker called Avery described it. 338 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 5: But the scream that I scrumped when I found out 339 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 5: that we are no longer doing clean girl esthetic. It's 340 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 5: now mob wife vibes. Only would a mob wife text 341 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 5: him first? Would a mob wife check her insta story 342 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: twenty five times to see what it looks like from 343 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 5: someone else's point of view? I don't think so. Honor 344 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: the days of quiet luxury, we're introducing filthy wealth. That's 345 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 5: nothing to do with how much money that you have. 346 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 5: It's all in the mentality. Okay, It's about time mob 347 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 5: wives would drink their Starbucks out of a Martini glass. 348 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 5: Gone are the days of the glass, skin going messy, 349 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 5: eyeshadow ladies, fur coat and lipstick. Mob wife understands boundaries. 350 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: He has a PhD. In where the bar is set. 351 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: Mob wife wouldn't have time to wash her. He's booked 352 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 5: and busy thanks to say people to tell what to do. 353 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: In fact, I would dare argue that a mob wife 354 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: would be what one would consider a girl boss, yet 355 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 5: she would step on anyone who would dare say that 356 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 5: kind of phrasing. 357 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: I do like the fact that strong female attributes are 358 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: being celebrated within this trend, because if you think about 359 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: the clean girl aesthetic, it just pushed perfectionism and focused 360 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: too much on flattening yourself to be this perfect person 361 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: who practices self care and does yoga and is always 362 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: eating healthy. But with this new trend, I feel like 363 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: it's You're allowed to be chaotic and messy. You're always 364 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: on the run, you're busy, you have your own life. 365 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: The only thing I do find a bit contradictory, though, 366 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: is that the trend seems to be centered on being 367 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: someone's wife. That's the only thing I don't really like. 368 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: It is interesting the inclusion of the red lipstick because 369 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: we are finding ourselves in a difficult financial time and 370 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: there is a trend known as the lipstick effect, and 371 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 1: this concept is that in a time of recession or 372 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: economic stress, women will tend to indulge in things that 373 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: provide them some sort of emotional uplift without breaking the budget. 374 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: And lipstick, particularly bright lipstick, is a perfect example of this, 375 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: so I wonder if that's playing into the trend a 376 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: little bit. We're also seeing red nails. Even before this trend, 377 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: red nails have been everywhere, and I quite like them. 378 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: I used to be known ten years ago for always 379 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: having red fingernails. I heard this thing on TikTok that 380 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: if you have red fingernails, apparently more guys will hit 381 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: on you, and it's due to the fact that growing 382 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: up their mums would have red fingernails, so they have 383 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: this sort of connection between femininity and the fingernails. It's 384 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: not a bit grossology is a bit fucked. Yeah, people 385 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: also think that you're more likely to be proposed to 386 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: if you have red nails. I think that's why people 387 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: are jumping on board this trend. I think that the 388 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: mob life aesthetic plays into the male gaze because it 389 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: seems to be all of the attributes are what the 390 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: typical man wants, whereas the clean girl look that's more 391 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: for the girls, because we're the ones who are looking 392 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: at the clean girl aesthetic influencers and going I want that. 393 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: I want to be like I disagree. A lot of 394 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: men bullshit and be like, I don't like a lot 395 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: of makeup. I prefer that clean look when it actually 396 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: needs makeup to create the look. I actually agree with 397 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: Amy because a lot of men don't get the clean 398 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: girl aesthetic. If you've got beautiful, glowy skin, they think 399 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: that your skin is greasy. I have heard that on 400 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: so many occasions that men just think you've gone really 401 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: greasy and that your skin is hormonal. And yeah, I 402 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: think that a lot of men. Although some might say 403 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: I don't really like women with makeup on the mob 404 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: life look isn't about having really makeup, but it's about 405 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: having a sort of feminine makeup look. See, I'm not 406 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: really into the aesthetic of it, but I do love 407 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: the mantra behind it. I mean again, I'm not into 408 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: the girl boss trend, but I'm all here for independent 409 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: women just wanting to do what they want to do, 410 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: not stressing about social media and checking their stories and 411 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: all that type of thing. So it'll be interesting to 412 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: see how it plays out on TikTok, and then also 413 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: if it does convert to the real world. I don't 414 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: think it will be long lived though, because I am 415 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: really fascinated by the fact that we have this constant 416 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: turnover of girly aesthetics. I've seen a lot of smart 417 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: takes on this in recent months about how girl trends 418 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: are basically repackaging womanhood. And you know, we've had the 419 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: girl dinners, we've had girl walks, and there's this constant 420 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: obsession with trying to work out which type of girl 421 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: you are and where you fit. And at the end 422 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: of the day, I think it really comes down to 423 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: the constant need for more content online. So TikTokers are 424 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: really seeing it as an opportunity to get views and 425 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, try new things, which is it's fun. I 426 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: think it's all a bit of fun. Well, it also 427 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: plays into consumerism because people are buying all of the 428 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: latest makeup looks to get the clean gal aesthetic or 429 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: whatever the new go aesthetic is, and then they have 430 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: to switch it all around, so they're probably like, hang on, 431 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: we need to start selling smoky eye palette. The thing 432 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: that pisss me off about this trend though, is the 433 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: fact that it's really bringing fur back in. Regardless of 434 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: if it's faux fur, there will be a lot of 435 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: people seeking out genuine fur and I actually find that 436 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: really disgusting. Model and fitness mogul Steph Glass Smith danced 437 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: the night away as she celebrated her thirtieth birthday surrounded 438 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: by notable blue ticks at a seven million dollar home. Now, 439 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: this party was all over my social media feeds. She 440 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: looked absolutely beautiful. She wore a sparkly gold mini dress 441 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: that was gifted to her by an Australian label, and 442 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: I did do a bit of a stalk. It's called 443 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: the Stellar Dress and it retails for three hundred and 444 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: sixty dollars. And I'm just kicking myself because I'm going 445 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: to a disco themed hens in a couple of weeks 446 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: and this dress would have been perfect for it. It's 447 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: really beautiful because it's so understated, but it also looks 448 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: really classy. Well, it seems like she might be getting 449 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: into this mob wife trend because apparently Sparkles a part 450 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: of it as well. And she did go for that 451 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: sort of old money vibes with her hair. She has 452 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: got her new bob and she did do the big blowout, 453 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: which looked amazing on her. I also spotted that she 454 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: had a side part. Now she is dictating hair trends 455 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: at the moment, so this might be something to watch 456 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: out for. I also think that she may have got 457 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: some highlights because she's got a really blonde bit in 458 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: the front that looks really good. She was asked her 459 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: followers if she should go blonder, so she clearly has 460 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: got a lot of fangirling going on here now. She 461 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: did jump on her TikTok and she asked her followers 462 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: before the party to help pick out her thirtieth dress 463 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: for her, and the gold sparkly number was a resounding yes. 464 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved the theme of her birthday party because 465 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: it was the eras of Steph. I'm guessing she stole 466 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: that idea from Taylor Swift, who she actually was friends 467 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: with back in the day when she was living in 468 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: New York. I think we use the term friends. I 469 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: think she went to a few dinners, but she went 470 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift to pick out her cash. That is 471 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: quite frandy. I didn't hear that. Yeah, Matt is epic. 472 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: Imagine ballsing up that friendship. How dirty would you be 473 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: if you were going to this party? What era would 474 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: you come as? For Steph Gliss? I really loved how 475 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: Laura Henshaw, her best friend and business partner, did the 476 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: Triangle day. So you know that neoprene triangle bikini that 477 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: everyone had back in twenty fourteen. Steph actually used to 478 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: model for the brand, so they were just model for them, Kate, 479 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: she was the face of the brand Triangle. Yeah. Well, 480 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: I'm surprised some people didn't do Sea Foley because I 481 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: actually remember Steph mostly from her Sea Folly days and 482 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: more recently she has worked with the brand. It was 483 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: funny because Laura ended up having to go on deepop 484 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: to find the triangle bikinis. I recently threw mine out, 485 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: but what's the bet they're going to come back into 486 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: fashion that particular look just because of this party. Well, 487 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: she and her husband Dalton, they really did pull out 488 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: all the stops for his birthday because her husband, he 489 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: basically picked out a quite an iconic photo shoot that 490 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: she did where she had permed hair and she had 491 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: a white single it on with no bra and then 492 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: Calvin klin Undi sticking out of jeans and he recreated 493 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: the whole thing and Laura even did the curly girl 494 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: hair method on him. That's how far into it they got. 495 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: Who what was jarda twint she meant to be because 496 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: was she meant to be pregnant Steph? Yeah, well no, 497 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: she was Steph who'd just given birth because she had 498 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: a baby carrier on. And I was gonna say there 499 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: were a lot of abs on show, because Steph Clearesmith 500 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: is known for her washboard abs and Jarday's husband, Lockie 501 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Bricky he wore a black crop top showing off his abs. 502 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: There were also a couple of other girls dressed in 503 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: bikinis that seemed to be a really popular one. There 504 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: were also some people dressed as Bombers supporters because Steph 505 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: of course goes for Essendon. And also someone was dressed 506 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: as someone from Baker's Delight. Was there much active wear 507 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: because I would have gone as Kicks. No, there was 508 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: the trainer, Dan Kennedy. He and I think it was 509 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: his partner were dressed and active, wearing blonde twigs. Did 510 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: they get this idea from Brandon's Bucks Party? Maybe I 511 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: was thinking that my partner did do a Bucks party 512 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: theme where they had to come as their favorite Brandon 513 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: And I know that sometimes this theme can almost come 514 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: across as a bit arrogant and into yourself, But what 515 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: I found at my partner's bucks was it was really 516 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: lovely because everyone really got around it and it was 517 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: a way almost to reminisce about old days. So you know, 518 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: old friends would dress up as you are childhood, and 519 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: it was a way for everyone to bond at the 520 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: party and share stories. See. I get nasty though, because 521 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: sometimes people can take it too far and end up 522 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: offending the well. I think with someone like Steph Claire Smith, 523 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: who's obviously a celebrity and a model, she has some 524 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: pretty iconic photo shoots, it would have been really easy 525 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: for the guests to come along and think of something creative. See, 526 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: I think you're giving Brandon Way too much credit. It's 527 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: quite clear that she took inspiration from the eras to it. 528 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: It's coming up now. This party wasn't your regular backyard do. 529 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: It was catered professionally. Also in the Roundhouse sponsored the events, 530 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: so Steph thanked them on her Instagram story and they 531 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: had two long tables that were full of their latest 532 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: drop of crockery and cups, which side note did make 533 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: me want to go and buy all of it. So 534 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: obviously it did its job, and Steph said that she 535 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: had the time of her life. You could tell from 536 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: the videos that she was dancing up a storm and 537 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: had so much fun. Let's throw to what Steph said 538 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: about the night. 539 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: I had the absolute time of my life last night. 540 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: That has got to be up there with Honestly, I'm 541 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: going to say our wedding night of how much fun 542 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 2: I had. 543 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: That was just so amazing. 544 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: And I can't thank all of my friends and family 545 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: enough for coming and just making me feel so special. 546 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: That was just so much fun. 547 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: And my body is aching fee I have blisters all 548 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: of my feet. I have like a few minus splinters 549 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: in my feet, I have bruises on my feet, and 550 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: my calves are so sore from dancing all night. And 551 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: that actually ranks me so happy. 552 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: I feel like that is a really authentic way to 553 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: welcome Steph into the thirties club, being really sore and 554 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: tired and not being able to recover quickly from a hangover. 555 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: Thinking about some of the recent Steph looks, I think 556 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: I would have come as Steph from her holiday recently 557 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: where she had it up to here with Harvey misbehaving. Yeah, 558 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: I would have come with like Toddler Mum's Steph just 559 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: fucking over it good night. That's what Jada came as. 560 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Michael Brunelli has unveiled his beardless face to his Instagram followers, 561 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: and his fiance Martha Califatitas isn't happy about the new look. 562 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: So back when we first met Martha and Michael on Maths, 563 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: Michael had very long hair and no beard. He kind 564 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: of looked like Fabio from back in the day. Fabio. 565 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: I thought I said it wrong. You have been watching 566 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: too much. The only way is essex, they say, Fabio, 567 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, sorry about that now. Martha then gave him 568 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: a makeover once they got together, and he was looking 569 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 1: a lot more chic, and he kind of went the 570 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: opposite way, so he had a shaved head and quite 571 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: a thick, long beard. Now Michael has started growing out 572 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 1: his hair and ditched the beard, but Martha is not 573 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: a fan. Let's throw to her reaction. Men like it. 574 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't say me to do this. I 575 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: didn't say go take it all off. I just said 576 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: trim it. 577 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 5: Because you react for the video now and say what 578 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 5: do you love it? 579 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: But I don't. I'm on Martha's side here. I have 580 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: actually never seen my fiance without a beard. There was 581 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: one time that he did go a little too bare face. 582 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: He still had a bit of stubble, and I was 583 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: sort of like, who is the Yeah, but that's because 584 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: he's nearly six years younger than you and a half. 585 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: Some men do just look like a little boy once 586 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: they shave off the beard. Dale and I had this 587 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: discussion leading into the wedding. Dale was like, which day 588 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: after shaving my beard do you like the best? Because 589 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: I said, I want stubble on your face. I think 590 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: it looks the best. The good thing about a beard 591 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: is it provides some dimension to a man's face, because 592 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: when it's all gone, you're sort of like, yeah, but 593 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: beards are also scratchy too. I actually think he looks 594 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: better without the beard. I think it's all what you're 595 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: used to seeing. It's kind of like when someone gets 596 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: their braces taken off and at first you're like, their 597 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: teeth looks so big and white. I think you're just 598 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: drawn to it, just looking different, and you get used 599 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: to it. Martha's family were a little bit more supportive 600 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: of it. Some of them said that he looked five 601 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: years younger and the same as when he got married 602 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: on mass Another person said he looked like a child, 603 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: So I suppose you can't please everyone. What's the equivalent 604 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: for women in terms of is it when they get 605 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: a bob? Yeah? I was thinking when you said that, 606 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's definitely a bob or maybe is it 607 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: no makeup and makeup? I don't necessarily think that there 608 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: is this similar mo, because men aren't that observant. I 609 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: think they are observant. I think sometimes they just realize 610 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: it's best not to say anything, whereas Martha is just 611 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: so honest. I love it. Other than the bob, I 612 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: think the equivalent could be when someone goes and gets 613 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: eyelash extensions, because a lot of men don't like the 614 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: look of that. Last week, when we were discussing Tammy 615 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: Hembrose bridesmaid's boxes, we predicted that she would collaborate with 616 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: Vera Wang and we were right. So Tammy shared to 617 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: a story that Vera Wang had gifted her a box 618 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: of goodies and from what we can see, she received 619 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: a wedding planet and a card. Now I am guessing 620 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: it will not be long until she is in store 621 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: trying on Vera Wang dresses. Because recently m Davies was 622 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: invited into the store, and that was off the back 623 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: of her complaining about a bad experience with other bridal stores. 624 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: I think this is a really good strategy by Vera 625 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: Wang because I found them becoming a bit irrelevant or 626 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: they seem to be out of reach, because the only 627 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: time I would think about them was when they were 628 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: dressing huge celebrities, and when I did think about, like 629 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: as a bride, generally because I want to get something 630 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: that's within reach for me, I would go and look 631 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: at what influencers were wearing. So it would be quite 632 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: interesting to compare the prices from Vera Wang to some 633 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: of the austrailing designers. The influencers have been promoted well, 634 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: their marketing team has clearly changed its strategy from dressing 635 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: celebrities to dressing influences. 636 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 4: Well. 637 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: I feel like there were a couple of bridal brands 638 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: that had a bit of a stranglehold on the influence industry. 639 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: We saw recently a lot of brides dressed by Marquere's 640 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: Bridal and also Kaya Studios, So it makes sense for 641 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it is an international designer, but they obviously 642 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: have a team in Australia that are scouting out what 643 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: are the biggest weddings coming up, and how do I 644 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: get these people in store? Well, that's all we've got 645 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: time for today. Thank you for listening to another episode 646 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: of Outspoken. If you do enjoy the show, we would 647 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: love it if you could leave us a five star review. 648 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the 649 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Plane is that we pay 650 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: respect to elders past and present.