1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Coming your way in just a moment's time. Actually, I've 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: got her on the line already now joining me on 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: the line to talk further about this topic. I am 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: joined by Robin Cooper Radkey and and good morning to 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: you there, Robin. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: How are you you really well? Lovely to speak to 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: you now, Robin, are you coming to a slide from 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: New Zealand this morning? 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I am. 11 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Now, I know you have been despite the fact that 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: you are on the other side of you know, of 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the world or not too far away, you've been keeping 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: a really close eye on things when it comes to 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: the Cyclone Tracy commemorations. You and I have spoken before 16 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: about the sculpture. How are you feeling after, you know, 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: after finding out more about these concerns regarding that sculpture 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: being unveiled on the twenty ninth in in what summer 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: calling a secret event. 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: Yes, well, we've been mate Admond for Cyclone Tracy Surviving 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: Book group in which we have just over seven and 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: a half thousand members. Now just reading the comments, you know, 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: in relation to the sculpture from when it was originally 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: unveiled at the beginning of June. Just the anger and 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: the sadness coming out in the commentary. There's a lot 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: of anger and a lot of sadness. We feel very 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: let down. It's like, I'm tracy, survivors haven't been listened to, Robin. 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: What are some of those members saying. 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: A lot? It's main just katies as contempt to discuss 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: the hostility. It's hurt disappointment. The biggest thing I am 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: reading is the retraumatization. You were talking about a very 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: older age genographic group here and very sensitive to what 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: we went through just the years ago, and it is 34 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: just re traumatizing so many people. A lot of people 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: are trying to get a dread about coming back to 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: the fiftieth I'm reading those sort of comments. Should I 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: come back? I don't think I will now. We just 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: felt very let down, very betrayed. 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah that and you know, like I just think to myself, 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: that's the last thing that we want right for the commemorations. 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: The thing that we actually want is for the community 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: to come together in the way that the community came 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: together after the cyclone fifty years ago and rebuilt this place. 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: As well. Honestly, we feel the council has completely betrayed us. 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: They have completely let us down. They had fifty years 46 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: to get right and that haven't got it right. We 47 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: called for back in, gentle them to go back to 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,559 Speaker 2: the drawing board. Well it's not happened. It's the secrecy 49 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: around it. So yeah, so we feel so betrayed, Robin. 50 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: What do you think needs to happen? 51 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: Personally? And honestly, I would actually like to see the 52 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: Lord Mayor publicly apologize. You've got tens of thousands of 53 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: people who are impacted, plane up the rebuilding it section. 54 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: You've got to factor all those people in as well, 55 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: and the counsels have got it wrong, stand up and 56 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: own it. Say you've got it wrong, We apologize, include 57 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: it because this red the last time we all come 58 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: back for anything and we do need to be validated 59 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: and justified. 60 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Well, Robin, I really appreciate your time this morning. We 61 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: are due to have the Lord Mayor on in about 62 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: ten minutes time, so we'll see whether we get that apology. 63 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: We'll see why they are holding these two events. And 64 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know whether we'll sort of 65 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: get any answers or whether there'll be any change, but 66 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: we'll do our best or I'll do my best. 67 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: Lovely, it's great to have you on board. Katie appreciate 68 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: everything anytime. 69 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Robin, Thanks so much for your time this morning.