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Speaker 1: Well, we know yesterday the Northern Territory Chief Minister made

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Speaker 1: some comments about bail which certainly the Police Association were

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Speaker 1: pretty unhappy with. They said it was highly embarrassing for

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Speaker 1: the government and deeply insulting to their members for the

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister to lay sole responsibility on police to determine

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Speaker 1: bail for violent offenders. Now joining me on the line

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Speaker 1: is the Northern Territory Police Association President Nathan Finn. Good morning, Finny,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Good morning Katy, Good morning listener.

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Speaker 1: Now, mate, what was your reaction to the Chief Minister's

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Speaker 1: comments yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Just overall frustration from our membership. Obviously it's not police

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Speaker 2: who decides it gets bailed. Obviously we work within the

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Speaker 2: constraints of obviously the current literacy framework, which is determined

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Speaker 2: by the anti Parliament.

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Speaker 1: So so you know, she'd basically said, she had said that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the police are determining bail. We spoke to

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Speaker 1: the Assistant Commissioner before he'd sort of explained it a

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Speaker 1: bit more to us as you have just done. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound as though you know it's wholly and solely

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Speaker 1: the police who are determining whether someone's bailed or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, Katie. And obviously there's a process that

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Speaker 2: has to take it's all governed by the obviously legacy

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Speaker 2: framework that we have to offer in Obviously under the

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Speaker 2: Bail Act, there's a lot of considerations to consider emotion

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Speaker 2: to bail. But obviously it's clear that government's bil laws,

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Speaker 2: particularly around each weapons aren't the changes do not go

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Speaker 2: far enough, and the presumption against bail should be extended

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Speaker 2: included offensive weapons for weapons such as to cause fear

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Speaker 2: or harm to another person.

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Speaker 1: So can you just talk me through what's the process

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Speaker 1: you know? If so, if there is a violent offender

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Speaker 1: and and you know the police have apprehended that person,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's an aggravated assault, let's say, what's

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Speaker 1: you know, what is the process that the police have

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Speaker 1: to work through.

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Speaker 2: It's obviously the processes of the person the least defenders

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Speaker 2: obviously arrested, taken to the watchhouse of the police facility

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Speaker 2: at that point time. Obviously the files prepared obviously to

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Speaker 2: a standard acceptable to court for acceptance to court at

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Speaker 2: that point in time. It's obviously there's a custody start

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Speaker 2: that obviously reviews that decision in relation to the overall matter,

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Speaker 2: make sure the correct evidence obviously suggest that the charges

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Speaker 2: should be laid, and the charges will be laid obviously,

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Speaker 2: and then a determination of bail is obviously done at

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Speaker 2: that point in time. There's obviously a presumption whether it's

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Speaker 2: for bail, whether it's neutral, or whether it's against and

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Speaker 2: obviously at that point in time is obviously we make

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Speaker 2: a decision in relation to bail at police obviously police

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Speaker 2: at that point in time. Obviously there's also a review

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Speaker 2: process in relation to the last defender can go through

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Speaker 2: as well, which obviously applies for a review of that

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Speaker 2: matter to the judge on call.

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Speaker 1: And so the comment from the Chief Minister was frustrating,

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Speaker 1: I guess because it's, you know, like it seems as

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Speaker 1: though while the police, you know, the police may be

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Speaker 1: determining sometimes whether somebody gets bail or not, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the time that's not the situation. It actually goes

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Speaker 1: much further than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Katie, definitely, Obviously I lot to obviously talk

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Speaker 2: to you about it. Obviously, the Chief Minister's reached out

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Speaker 2: personally this morning in relation to the comments that were

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Speaker 2: obviously on your show yesterday, and obviously unreservedly apologized to

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Speaker 2: myself and also to our members for her comments as

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Speaker 2: they are taking out of context, she stated, which I

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Speaker 2: obviously appreciated her reaching out and obviously touching the base

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Speaker 2: an apology, but on reflection, she just needs to know

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Speaker 2: knew that the comments were made were obviously not well worded,

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Speaker 2: and obviously yeah, obviously the police, yeah upset people comments.

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Speaker 1: And so she has she's actually reached out to you

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Speaker 1: this morning to apologize though.

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Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, Katie, she rang up personally apologized to myself

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Speaker 2: and obviously our members, and I basically informed her that

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Speaker 2: obviously I thank you for the apology, obviously, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: if there's any comments like that, they're going to come

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Speaker 2: out be prepared that they were going to obviously challenge

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Speaker 2: that informed commentary.

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Speaker 1: Well, and yeah, and I guess you know they would

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Speaker 1: expect that, but it is, you know, it's a good

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Speaker 1: thing that she's made contact and apologize to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, she's made some agreements and wants to meet

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Speaker 2: with me personally discuss and obviously pressing issues in relation

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Speaker 2: to this and obviously in relation to the bail review,

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Speaker 2: and obviously in relation to the resource allocation review also

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Speaker 2: with governments. Obviously, I'm heavily pushing to make sure that

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Speaker 2: our staff is supported out there to do the job,

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Speaker 2: the best possible job that they can possibly do well.

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Speaker 1: Police Association President, Nathan Finn, appreciate your time this morning,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll talk to you again soon. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't expecting it to be twice in one week, but

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 2: No, definitely not, kiddie, but you're always here to have

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Speaker 2: a chat with you and obviously to inform your listeners

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Speaker 2: and obviously support our membership and make sure that they

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Speaker 2: can do the best job they possibly can out there

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Speaker 2: in the public.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thank you so much for your time this morning, Nathan,