1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Yesterday on the show, we caught up with Jerry Wood, 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: who had some concerns about the Humpty Do Rural Activity 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Center Area Plan. Now, the plan provides a long term 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: vision for land use, giving certainty to residents, land owners, investors, 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: service providers and government agencies to help plan for the future. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: The Northern Territory Planning Commission is seeking fresh feedback on 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: the plan and is holding some drop in sessions for 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: locals to do so. Now joining me on the line 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: to tell us a little bit more is the Planning 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Commission NT Chairman, Doctor David Richie. Good morning to you, David. 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: Oh, good morning Katie. 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, David, firstly, 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: can you explain to us what the plan is all 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: about and why it's needed. 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Katie. I think just in saying that, I 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: was listening to Jerry and just to acknowledge his enormous 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: contribution to planning in in the Northern Territory. I mean 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: he's he's from his first day, you know, his influence 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: on the stopping of the damming of the Elizabeth River, 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: right the way through to his his championing the the 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: the importance of maintaining the rural rural rural buffers between 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: the major major urban centers. As I mean, he's you 23 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: could say he's actually he's changed the way planning has 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: been done in in the in the last twenty five years. 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, we always listened to Jerry to go back 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: to what the plans about. It's one of a number 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: of plans that have been very similar. They're there with 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: Howard Springs and Nunama have already been kind of done 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: and there they were all responses to ad hoc development 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: that was that was beginning to kind of creep into 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: the rural area, curly fueled by the boom in you know, 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: from the impacts the When the twenty and sixteen the 33 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: sixteen Regional Plan for Lichfield was handed down and accepted, 34 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: it contained these concept of having these what it's called 35 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: the rural developing more intensively around the existing infrastructure, which 36 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: is basically very sound planning principle. Where you've got already 37 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: got reticulated power, water, sewage, that's where you can actually 38 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: create sort of opportunities for closer living. And I think 39 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: I said Nunama before I meant to say Cooler Lingery 40 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: fulller Linger Plan and the and the Howard Springs plan. 41 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: So this one we've been talking to people in that 42 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: around Humpty do since two thousand and This has taken 43 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: along time to get to this stage, mainly because the 44 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: Arnham Highway, like Cooler Linga a highway, presents a major 45 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: opportunity and a major challenge. And in Humpty Dew the 46 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: need for kind of north south axis crossing that is 47 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: kind of imperative. Needs to be a connection back to 48 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: Howard Springs and they're very important to have these rural 49 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: areas being able to be connected without having to get 50 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: back onto major highways all the time. But the of course, 51 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: the wicked problem is how do you do that without 52 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: affecting the amenity of people that have already bought blocks, 53 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: already planned and sided their houses, expecting their road out 54 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: the front to be basically a rural road and not 55 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: a major connector. And I think the initial draft we 56 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: took out in two thousand and ninety there was a 57 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: whole issue of that was perhaps the major issue we 58 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: signalizing and which which of the roads running north south 59 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: would be become the major connector. What this plan which 60 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: we're going out to the community with now is our 61 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: attempt to solve those problems, legitimate concerns that were raised 62 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: when we first went out a few years ago. 63 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so doctor Richie, just tell us. I mean 64 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Jerry's main concern, or one of those concerns, was that 65 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: one hundred rural blocks could be subdivided into five hundred 66 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: smaller blocks, which doesn't retain that rural character of the area. 67 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you say to those concerns that 68 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: he'd raised yesterday. 69 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: I think in that case, Jerry is making a point 70 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: about the rural the need to conserve that the rural character. 71 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: I told say, in kind of that, we're talking about 72 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: probably less than five percent of the rural kind of 73 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: area around the Humpty Dew of Herbert kind of region 74 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: affected by this, all of the areas that were proposed 75 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: for slightly smaller blocks. So we're talking about what is 76 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: in the there's a there's a planning kind of zoning 77 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: category called rural residential which is between four thousand square 78 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: meters to which is an old fashioned acre, to ten 79 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: thousand square meters which is basically one hectare. So and 80 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: that we're proposing that that those be limited to the 81 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: edge of the Arnham Highway. So that if when they 82 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 2: were developed and there are areas that are not already 83 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: the areas that the owners are holding onto waiting for development. 84 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: Now in Jerry's proposals, they should just be carved up 85 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: into basically five acre blocks two hectare blocks. We are saying, 86 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: look opposite the humpty do area the existing company do 87 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: you shopping area and industrial area on the that's on 88 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: the north side of the highway where those big, big 89 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: sort of like super lots have yet to be subdivided. 90 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: We should look at and allow the opportunity, if the 91 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: owners want to develop them like that, to have these 92 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: smaller lots going down to four thousand square meters, which 93 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: is the old fashioned one acre. Yeah. 94 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: Now look, we don't have a huge amount of time left, 95 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: but I do want to ask you one of the 96 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: other concerns that has been raised is is obviously the 97 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, the situation with the bore and septic requirements. 98 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: Is that something that people are raising with you at 99 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: this point. 100 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely and quite rightly. Yeah. The the the if 101 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: any of if there's any development along in that that 102 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: we're talking about that you can see on the plan 103 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: there's a sort of a strip either side of the 104 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: Arham Highway, within the within the that's what's called the 105 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: study area. Anybody wants if they were to be carved 106 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: up into into four thousand square meet a lot, they 107 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: have to have either the moment there's no sewerage line 108 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: in there. The four thousand square meta is big enough 109 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: to have a septic system, but they have to have 110 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: a two stage system. So they have to be able 111 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: to demonstrate that the systems that are the only systems 112 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: that ever be approved on that are those that do 113 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: not impact ground war. 114 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: Now, doctor Richie, I understand that there are still opportunities 115 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: for territories to make sure that their voices are heard 116 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: on this. And there there are going to be a 117 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: couple of meetings happening this week, aren't they? 118 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: There are O Katie and the I guess the well, firstly, 119 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean consultations. You know, for the formal consultation period 120 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: is open till the thirtieth of Journe. There's a have 121 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: your say dot n T, dot gother dot AU site, 122 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: but there will be drop in sessions tonight at the 123 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: Humpty Dew Tavern between five and seven. And I really 124 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: urge anybody that wants to have their their too, Bobsworth 125 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: to come along to that, but also again Canonman Community 126 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: Library between ten and one on Thursday this week. So 127 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: at this point we are still we've you know that 128 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 2: even the boundary of the area that we're talking about 129 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: is something that we can we would like to hear 130 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: people that we really are open to to sensible ways 131 00:08:58,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: of solving some of these. 132 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: Is well, Doctor David Ritchie, I always appreciate your time 133 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: of the Planning Commission NT Chairman. Thank you very much 134 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: for having a chat with me this morning. 135 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Katie, thank you