1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: That is so fatch. Thank you, Welcome back to another 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: episode of Outspoken. Now. I'm not usually on the same 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: page as jar Dae Tunci, but she posted something last 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: week that I can definitely get around. She has revealed 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: that she's already set up her Christmas decorations. Now she's 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: still waiting on putting up the tree, but basically everything 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: else is there. She's got a table runner, she's got 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: a Christmas light up brain dear. She's gone all out, 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: and I think that this is fantastic and more people 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: should be doing it. See I think she's broken a 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: cardinal sin. I'm sorry, but I'm all for Christmas and 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: celebrating it very early, but I think you've got to 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: at least wait until Halloween. Is also my boyfriend's birthday 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: is on October thirtieth, and I feel it's disrespectful to 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: him to put the Christmas tree up before his birth. Well, 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: ja Day doesn't know that Jaday's Well, I'm saying me personally. 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: I think after the year that people in New South 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Wales and Victoria have had, that they can put up 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: their blood Christmas decorations whenever they want to. I think 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: it signals this exciting end of the year where everyone 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: can start seeing their loved ones and celebrating with each other. 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: See I'm with sof where I think it's a little 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: bit too early because it can actually take away from 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: the magic of Christmas. I mean, I'm all for going 30 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: out and buying and preparing at the moment for stuff. 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: So I've been out recently and got a Christmas jigsaw puzzle. 32 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I've also got some Christmas cupcake toppers, so I'm kind 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: of dipping my toe into the Christmas spirit at the 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: moment and refreshing some decorations that I need. But I 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: do feel it is a tiny bit early, and I 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: feel like a grinch for saying, Sophy, aren't you going 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: to be putting your tree up? Scene though, Well, in 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: South Australia we wait for the Christmas pageant, and now 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: that I'm one of those people with a fake Christmas tree. 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to be putting it up early, but I 41 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: think I think you do have to wait till November. 42 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't remember, but have I mentioned on the podcast 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: how Dale and I are growing our inn Christmas trees. 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like you wanted to, we 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't let you mention it. I think it was nearly Christmas. 46 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: So now it's out there. I feel like it's going 47 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: to take a little bit of time before you start 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: like your Christmas tree farm, because I did see them 49 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: scorched in the sun. They're not scorched, they're growing well. 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: There was one that was like a stick in a pot. 51 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they're amazing. I'm to really start an 52 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: Instagram account for the Christmas Tree Farm so people can 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: follow along the journey. They'll be ready in seven years time. 54 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: About how like you're in the city and you're stressed 55 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: out and your life is feeling really like low, but 56 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: in your hearts Christmas tree far Jewelry brand Pandora has 57 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: made a play at the gen z market, enlisting Addison 58 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: Ray and Charlie XCX to promote their personalized jewelry line, 59 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: but has the global campaign been a success. Firstly, so 60 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: before we get into it, can you give us a 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: bit of a background about Pandora. Well, I think it 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: will surprise a lot of listeners because Pandora has actually 63 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: been around for almost forty years now. It started out 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: as a family run jewelry shop in Copenhagen in nineteen 65 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: eighty two, and the husband and wife team began on 66 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: a small scale importing jewelry from Thailand and selling it 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: to consumers. So in nineteen eighty seven they became a 68 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: pure wholesaler and two years later they hired in house 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: designers and created a manufacturing site in Thailand, which is 70 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: where they still produced jewelry today. So they really made 71 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: a name for themselves by producing jewelry that was affordable. 72 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: They started selling their signet to charm bracelets in two 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: thousand and then launched a franchise model in Australia in 74 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. It's so funny because we were 75 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: about twenty one at the time and I remember the 76 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Pandora bracelets was the thing to have. Well, I was 77 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: going to say, I remember we all got a twenty 78 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: first birthday charm and it seemed like a really cool 79 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: thing to have at the time. Yeah, definitely, And it's 80 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: pretty crazy because they are now sold in more than 81 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: one hundred countries across the world, so it's definitely evolved 82 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: into being a very popular brand. So okay, I assume 83 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: the family are making a lot of money from Pandora. 84 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: How much are they worth? Well, twenty ten was a 85 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: massive year for Pandora, as you said, Sophie. In two 86 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, they started franchising the shops out to 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: different countries around the world, and they became the world's 88 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: third largest jewelry company in terms of sale, so they 89 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: were just behind Cartier and Tiffany and Co. And they 90 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: had a market capitalization of around twenty seven billion dollars, 91 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: which I found absolutely incredible. So in twenty eleven, more 92 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: than one piece of Pandora jewelry was sold every second 93 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: on average. However, in that same year, the company experienced 94 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: an eighty percent fall in their shares after they shifted 95 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: their focus to higher end designs, which started to alienate 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: their core demographic. And I do remember when Pandora suddenly 97 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: started getting expensive and they had all those gold charm 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: bracelets that I don't know who was purchasing them will. 99 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: They seem to really be pushing for that mum market, 100 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's why maybe they put their 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: prices up. No, I think it was more that they 102 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: wanted to compete with those higher end brands and offer 103 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: I suppose affordable collection, but then also the higher end. 104 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: So they quickly realized the mistake they had made and 105 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: switched back to the more affordable range, which was more 106 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: popular with the mass market. So they eventually recovered and 107 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: reported revenue of nineteen billion dollars in a net profit 108 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: of three billion in twenty fourteen. However, it seems like 109 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: with such a long history, they have fluctuated in success. 110 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: So in twenty seventeen their revenue did skyrocket by fifteen 111 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: percent year on year. However, it then started to have 112 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: this organic growth slowed down and in twenty eighteen it 113 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: had a two percent drop and it went on to 114 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: drop further by eight percent. So in twenty nineteen, just 115 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: before the pandemic, they launched an initiative called Program Now 116 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: to try and jump start growth, and they identified this 117 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: need to start operating as a more unified global company, 118 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: and a part of this was buying back a lot 119 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: of the franchisease that they had, and they also hired 120 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: a new CEO called Andrew Lassic and he started to 121 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: head up this program which was meant to have a 122 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: two year turnaround. However, obviously COVID through a spanner in 123 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: the works for Pandora. Now, in September of this year, 124 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Pandora revealed its long term goal amy can you talk 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: us through what it is? Yeah? So their aim is 126 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: to double revenue in the US and triple revenue in China. 127 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: They announce their aim is to be the largest and 128 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: most desirable brand in the affordable jewelry market. So with 129 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: revenue reported in Pandora's twenty nineteen annual report to be 130 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: one billion in the US and four hundred and thirty 131 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: one point eight million in China, that's going to be 132 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: a lot of jewelry that they're aiming to sell. So 133 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: to make this plan possible, they're expanding their original facilities 134 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: in Thailand as well as building a new facility in Vietnam. 135 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: And the project is expected to cost two hundred and 136 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars and will allow Pandora to increase its 137 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: manufacturing capacity by sixty percent. So this equates to eighty 138 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: million pieces of jewelry per year. Is it just me 139 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: that is shocked with the amount of jewelry that they 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: do produce, because I know when you go overseas, you know, 141 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: you go to Singapore and you see a Pandora and 142 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: is very much a global brand now, But I feel 143 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: like Pandora a lot of people gift it to people 144 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: for their birthday or Christmas. It doesn't feel like something 145 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: that people are buying all the time. Think how many 146 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: charms our mum has just got about three Pandora bracelets. 147 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it's something that people they'll buy as gifts, 148 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: as you said, but sometimes they'll buy themselves something to 149 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: mark a milestone. Well, you can hear a jingling from 150 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: miles away with all their Pandora. What I found fascinating 151 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: about Pandora's new strategic plan is they're focus on increasing 152 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: its brand desirability and markets shared with gen zs and 153 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: millennial consumers. So Pandora CEO Andrew Lessig said, if you 154 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: look at gen Z and millennials, by twenty twenty five, 155 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: they are expected to constitute over sixty percent of the 156 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: luxury consumption in the world. So we need to sharpen 157 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: our pens. What do you guys think about their strategy. 158 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that he uses the word luxury 159 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: because it kind of contradicts their strategic plan in wanting 160 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: to be the world's most desirable, affordable jewelry brand. I 161 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: think it may have something to do with the fact 162 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: that they've recently brought in an employee from the luxury sector, 163 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: and I think they're trying to take elements from that 164 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: sector and then put them into a more affordable option 165 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: for gen Zettas, considering that gen Zettas don't have what 166 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: you would assume they wouldn't have a lot of money 167 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 1: to spend on jewelry. The thing is, I actually don't 168 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: think it's a silly move because we were talking about 169 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: how we were first introduced to Pandora when we were 170 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: twenty one, and how we've continued to purchase Pandora, and 171 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: they've obviously referenced twenty twenty five. So they want gen 172 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: Zettas and millennials to be buying Pandora now and continuing 173 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: to buy it as they get older. Yeah, exactly the journey. 174 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: And I think most people, you know, as we said, 175 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: we were twenty one when we first bought Pandora and 176 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: I've continued to buy it now ten to eleven years on. 177 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: So I suppose they're trying to hook in that younger 178 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: market right away, and a big part of that plan 179 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: has been to launch the me collection and they have 180 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: enlisted some help of some very famous faces in the 181 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: gen Z market. So one of those faces is Addison Ray. Now, 182 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: she has over eighty five million followers on TikTok and 183 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: she just stabued in the Netflix movie He's All That. 184 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: So she is the face of the campaign, alongside English 185 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: singer Charlie x X. Canadian dancer Dante Collie is also 186 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: in the campaign, as well as Filipino, British singer songwriter 187 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: Buttris Laos and Italian musician Cecilia Cantarino. I don't hear 188 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: any of those people are Does that just show that 189 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: this is not marketed towards me, that I am not 190 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: in GenZ? Yeah, I had no idea who they were, 191 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: but I did notice in the advertisement that it seems 192 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: like a great pick because they're all global stars in 193 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: their own right, and they also are quite diverse, you know, 194 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: there's different nationalities. They've included a male in the campaign, 195 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: which I think would be a first for Pandora. So 196 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: I can see where they're going at it. And so 197 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: Pandora has had each of their ow assets create their 198 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: own edit from the collection to demonstrate how the pieces 199 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: can be worn to best represent you. So Addison Ray said, 200 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: Pandora has been a part of my life for as 201 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: long as I can remember. To work together is a 202 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: dream because I have so many memories associated with my 203 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Pandora pieces, which I've had forever. Plus their stance on 204 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: encouraging people to be their unique selves is really empowering 205 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: and I love that. So Charlie XCX, she does not 206 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: only just appear in the ad, but she also created 207 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: a song exclusively for the advertisement called Sweat, and she 208 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: said the song is all about letting go of inhibitions 209 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: and being totally free to be who you are. How 210 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: much would have Pandera paid to have these girls and 211 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: guys a part of this, because I would hate to think, yeah, 212 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: because if Charlie XCX is creating her own song, my goodness, Like, 213 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: how much were these these ambassadorships? It almost seems kind 214 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: of desperate on their front. I mean, obviously we're hearing 215 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: that they're doing quite well with revenue, but it does 216 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: seem like a desperate plea to remain cool. Yeah, to 217 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: be relevant. I mean I can just imagine all the 218 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: sort of like forty to fifty year old mums going 219 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: in the shop and seeing the ads and having no 220 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: idea who any of the people are. The thing that's 221 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: also stranger is we were talking about luxury before, and 222 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: we touched on the fact that the CEO said in 223 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, gen zetters and millennials will make up 224 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: most of the luxury market. However, this new line doesn't 225 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: look luxurious to me. It kind of comes across as tacky, 226 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: and I don't think kids these days want to be 227 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: wearing tacky charms like this. Yeah, I did not like 228 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: the range. I know I am not the target market, 229 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: but I do find it ironic because Pandora really seems 230 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: to have really tried hard to be, as you said, 231 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: very inclusive and cool and of the minute. However, it 232 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: does seem pretty desperate. They've come out and said that 233 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: this collection is meant to empower everyone to be who 234 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: they want to be, and they've said it's been inspired 235 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: by gen Z and is touted as providing endless possibilities 236 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: of personalization with the aim to encourage self expression. I 237 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: find that amusing because I don't really feel like Pandora 238 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: is that unique. I mean everyone, the whole thing is 239 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: they're set to produce eighty million more pieces every year. 240 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: You can't really be that unique if you're having mass 241 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: produced pieces. Yeah, okay, it's unique because you have your 242 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: own bracelet and you can pick what pieces that you 243 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: get that. But I feel like they've it's not really 244 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: that unique. Well, I'm going to get a twenty one 245 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: charm because I've turned twenty one. Look, my Pandora bracelet 246 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: is very unique. I have a little dog on there 247 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: to represent Archie. I noticed that Pandora is getting into 248 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,239 Speaker 1: YouTube sponsorship too, because Anasoja Kingsknots was sponsored by Pandora. 249 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of these gen zetters have 250 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: never ever worn Pandora life. I mean, we have Addison 251 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Ray here saying, oh, They've been part of my journey 252 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: throughout my whole life. I call bullshit there. Their mum's 253 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: probably had to explain to them what it is. Yeah, 254 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: but the whole thing is so that you know the 255 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: charm bracelets that you and I grew up with. They've 256 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: actually created a whole new one, so it's more of 257 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: that link bracelet. Would you know what, I'm going to 258 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: be interested to see if this campaign actually works. So 259 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: when they have to report their earnings for twenty twenty 260 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: one and into twenty twenty two, do you guys think 261 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be a success or not? No, I 262 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be successful. Little. I do 263 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: think it kind of reeks a bit of desperation this campaign, 264 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think that millennials and genzetas are going 265 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: to jump on board. I think there's other things that 266 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: they prefer to buy over this. I don't know. If 267 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: it reeks of desperation, I think it would be. You 268 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: could more say it was a bit try hard using TikTokers? 269 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: Was that not desperate? No, it's not desperate. But I 270 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: do wonder what the return on investment is because as 271 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: we said before, they must be paying these girls a 272 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: lot of money and this guy a lot of money 273 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: to be in the campaign. But will that correlate to sales? See, 274 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't think they're being desperate because I actually think 275 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: they're being smart because if you look at Napoleon Perdez. 276 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: He was, Hey, you had the biggest makeup brand back 277 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: in early two thousands, and in twenty nineteen he was 278 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: twenty two million dollars in debt and had to shut 279 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: down in Australia. And he was exactly like Pandora. He 280 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: had shops everywhere and it was a really well established brand, 281 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: but he refused to make the shift towards influencer marketing, 282 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: which ended up being the end of that brand. So 283 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: I think it is good that Pandora are changing tact 284 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: and trying to have a different strategy to target that 285 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: new generation. I do think that they It's like they 286 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: almost googled what do gen Zetta's thing and like? And 287 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: they've kind of taken it too literally. I don't think 288 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: it's one fucking sauce. I told you to check the bag. 289 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I told you, Are you kidding? I said, I checked 290 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: the bag and saw one set out so aside his 291 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: consumed they would have given us free like her art. No, 292 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: that McDonald's never gives me bullshit. That wow, that McDonald's 293 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: never gives you what. I asked you to check the bag. 294 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: Following rumors that they'd split after unfollowing one another from 295 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: social media. Sky Wheatley has confirmed she and baby daddy 296 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: Locke are in a good place in their relationship, so 297 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: if can you tell us about this Q and A well. 298 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Sky was asked how things are going between the pair 299 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: in a Q and A and she said that things 300 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: are so much better now Lockie has started training at 301 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: the gym to relieve some stress. I almost felt it 302 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: was a bit of a pot shot because it's always 303 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: putting blame on him. She said that they still have 304 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: little arguments here and there, which she thinks is normal 305 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: considering they're dealing with renovations and two kids under three. 306 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: I feel like they're both being stubborn though, because when 307 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: you take a look at their Instagram accounts, they still 308 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: don't follow one another on Instagram. What do you guys 309 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: think about that? Maybe it's not a huge deal for 310 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: Lockie because I know that Instagram is probably Sky's life, 311 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: But for someone like Lockie, I feel like he'd be 312 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: somebody that didn't really care about it. No, I definitely 313 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: think it shows that they're pretty petty because Sky's whole 314 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: life is Instagram, and the fact that she's not even 315 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: following her own partner and father of her two kids like, 316 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: what's that about. Do you think they haven't refollowed each 317 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: other because they keeping following each other and unfollowing each 318 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: other that people have noted it, so they just kind 319 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: of laving it as it is. I definitely think that's 320 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: what it is, because it advoays people creating extra rumors 321 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: and going to look whether they're following each other or not. 322 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: But people must be checking if they're following each other 323 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: now because they're not. Like, to me, it would make 324 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: more sense just to follow one another again, Oh, it 325 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: definitely would. But I feel like they don't have the 326 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: strength too if they have an argument to unfollow each other. 327 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: So it's just like breaking a cycle, like we just 328 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: won't follow each other at all. Maybe that's become part 329 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: of their argument. Maybe one of them gets petty during 330 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the arguments and always unfollow so now they're just being 331 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: so stubborn about it. Well. In this Q and A, 332 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: Sky also opened up about being diagnosed with ADHD. So 333 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: she explained that her mum got her tested when she 334 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: was very young because her teachers noticed that she was 335 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: struggling to concentrate in class, and she said that her 336 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: schooling was a very hard time for her as she 337 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: never found learning easy like everyone else seemed to do. So. 338 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: She said that at the time, doctors recommended for her 339 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: to be medicated, but her mum was against it, so 340 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: she never received medication, and reflecting on it, she said 341 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: that she is happy about her mum's decision and respects 342 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: how much her mum helped her learn as a child. 343 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: And she said that she thinks of something that makes 344 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: her unique and she actually likes it about her personality 345 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: and personally. I thought it was good that she was 346 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: open in speaking about it. I know we've spoken a 347 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: lot before or about some of the problematic things Sky 348 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: has done, but one thing I do respect about her 349 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: is that she is very real and raw on her 350 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: social media channel. Well. I also feel like ADHD is 351 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: something that you only hear about as a child. It's 352 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: always kids who are misbehaving in class, but you don't 353 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: generally hear adults talking about having it themselves. So I 354 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: feel it's something that people could relate to. I need 355 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: Courtney to nuppy soap annoying with a stick of her 356 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: house like runs this because she doesn't. She's the least 357 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: exciting to look at. Courtney Kardashian and Blink one eight 358 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: two drummer Travis Barker sent the Internet into a spin 359 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: when they announce they're engaged after a highly documented turbulent 360 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: relationship with baby daddy Scott Disick. Fans are ecstatic that 361 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: Courtney has finally got the happy ending she deserved. Kay, 362 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: can you tell us about the proposal? Yeah, Well, Travis 363 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: proposed to Courtney during sunset on a beach in Santa Barbara, 364 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: a little bit like Spencer Pratt and Heidi bad I 365 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: love that you remember that very random piece of POPCORLM 366 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: show that that's the only thing I can remember about 367 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: Santa Barbara. Anyways, So saucers say that Courtney had no 368 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: idea that Travis was going to propose to her that day. 369 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: So Travis had organized a fifty foot hedge of red 370 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: roses shaped like a heart and accompanied by candles in 371 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: glass vessels. Now, for someone who has been looking into 372 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: the cost of wedding flowers, seeing these roses made me 373 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: feel physically ill because this would cost I would say 374 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars or Kate journalists 375 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: actually got some florists onto the case to estimate the 376 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: cost of the flowers. So Ashley Grea, who is the 377 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: Flora's best known for working on the Obama's White House 378 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: Christmas tree, and what a job that would be. So 379 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: she estimated that there were five to six thousand red 380 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: roses in that installation, and in order to create that look, 381 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: it would have cost fifty four thousand dollars. What do 382 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: we think about that as a proposal in terms of 383 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: a good a bad? Oh? I think it would be great. 384 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: But there is contention whether this was the original proposal 385 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: or if it was just put together for the show, 386 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: because people have spotted cameraman in the background, so it's 387 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: thought that this might have been a bit of a 388 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: mock proposal, like we've seen on Keeping Up the Kardashians 389 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: with Kim before. Yeah, that's right because TMZ is reporting 390 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: that cameras were present for the beach proposal and also 391 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: the family's dinner after he popped the question. I personally 392 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: am very excited that we might be seeing this on TV, 393 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: even if it is manufactured and fake. Yeah, because I 394 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: love that this is Courtney's first ever proposal at forty 395 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: one years old. She hasn't been engaged before, and they 396 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: do seem so in love that. It'll be really nice 397 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: to see Courtney actually have her day. When you guys 398 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: say TV show, because obviously they're not filming Keeping Up 399 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: with the Kardashians anymore, what is the TV show? Well, 400 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: they're basic going to be keeping up with the Kardashian's 401 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: two point zero on Hulu. It sounds like it's going 402 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: to follow a very similar structure. Did you guys know 403 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: that Travis Barker was actually on his own MTV reality 404 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: show called Meet the Barkers, So he's going to fit 405 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: in perfectly. Well. I didn't realize that Courtney and Travis 406 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: were also neighbors for a number of years and really 407 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: good friends. And there is that line going around about 408 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: how the first time Travis saw Kim he said he 409 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: couldn't take his eyes off her. I feel like he's 410 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: really wishing he never put that to print. That's super awkward, 411 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: especially because I feel like, as the sisters of Kim Kardashian, 412 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: you would have a bit of a complex around it. Now. 413 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: In regards to social media, Courtney jumped on her Instagram 414 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: and she shared a number of the beautiful photos and 415 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: captioned it Forever. I feel like it must be really 416 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 1: difficult when you've just been proposed to to come up 417 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: with an appropriate caption, and okay, it took you a 418 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: little while. I feel like there are some people who've 419 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: been waiting to be proposed to and they have this 420 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: banger capture and in their head ready to go. But 421 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: there was a bit cringe, like yes, a thousand times 422 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: or I don't know, I think, but I mean, Forever's 423 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: quite good. It's just short. No, that's not sure. I 424 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: think it was good. Yeah. He also shared the same caption, 425 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: And what I did like about Courtney's post is that 426 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: it seemed really organic, because she used kind of blurryer 427 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: photos that looked like they'd been taken from far away. However, 428 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: later in the weeks, she did follow up with some 429 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: very nice, professionally taken photos that did have that candid element, 430 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: but were obviously more posed. Now, what do you guys 431 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: think about the fact that it was actually Kim Kardashian 432 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: and Kylie Jenner who first shared a photo or a 433 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: close up photo of the ring. Do you feel like 434 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: they were taking her thunder a little bit there? I mean, 435 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: Kim's already shared so many of her amazing rings with 436 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: all her marriages, so I think they should have waited 437 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: for Courtney. I would have been pissed if you guys 438 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: stole my thunder and shared something like that. I don't 439 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: know if it's stealing her thunder because Courtney had shared 440 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: that she was engaged. I feel like when I saw 441 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: their posts, I thought, well, they must be so excited, 442 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: and it reminded me of Kate when you got engaged, 443 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: because I remember feeling so happy and so genuinely excited. 444 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: So maybe it was a little bit of that, do 445 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: you know what? Though, I also think that sometimes you 446 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: feel like the wanker, the show off in the photo, 447 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: so maybe they thought it was less showing off to 448 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: have a sister share it well, as long as Courtney 449 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: did agree to it. However, I do think if you're 450 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: a part of such a massive social media family like 451 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: the Kudashians, they would realize that a post like that 452 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: would garner so many millions of likes and be really 453 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: good for someone's profile. So I think they should have 454 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: left it to Courtney. So can you tell us about 455 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: her ring because it is absolutely stunning. Yeah. Well, it's 456 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: funny because I kept hearing this term thrown around about 457 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: you know the fact that Kim said that Courtney was 458 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: the most uninteresting to look at. Now people are saying 459 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: now that her finger is the most interesting finger to 460 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: look at. Out of the Kardashians, she is the only 461 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: one who is wearing an engagement ring at the moment. 462 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: So the ring is an enormous oval cut diamond. It 463 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: also has diamonds around the band, and it is predicted 464 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: to be larger than fifteen carrots, and it's predicted to 465 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: have set Travis back one point three four million dollars. 466 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: The ring is of course very on trend, with oval 467 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: diamonds surging in popularity this year and a quarters at 468 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: oval and according to industry experts, they're popular because they 469 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: stand out by being less conventional than a traditional solitaire cut, 470 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: and also they apparently elongate the finger, which I feel 471 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: like for Courtney, she's she looks like she's got very 472 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: small hands, so they're very fine fingers. I don't know 473 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: if she needs any help with the ring, no, but 474 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: it makes them look longer if you've got a small hand. 475 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: I think it's the least garish looking ring out of 476 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: all the Kardashians. Because Kim had a massive diamond and 477 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: so did Chloe, but I feel like this one still 478 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: looks like a big diamond, but it doesn't look as 479 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: over the top. It looks classy. Well, when you compare 480 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: the price, Kim Kardashian's engagement ring from Kanye West in 481 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen was estimated at five million dollars, while her 482 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: ring from Chris Humphreys was two million dollars. And as 483 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: you said, they were very garish. I remember back in 484 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: the day when Diva was a jewelry shop that was 485 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the affordable jewelry shot. Back in the day, they had 486 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: replicas of Kim's ring and I got it and it 487 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: like as a joke, and it was just so big 488 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: on my finger it didn't even fit. So I do 489 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: think they've done a very good job at Courtney's ring. 490 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: I would buy a replica of that ring at Diva 491 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: if it was still a thing, maybe, Livisa, Well, if 492 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: you also compare it to the rings that Chloe has sported. 493 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: So back in March, Chloe sparked engagement rumors when she 494 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: posted an Instagram photo to promote her Good American Fashion label, 495 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: and she was wearing an enormous rock So she and 496 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: Tristan kept the tight lip on whether they were in 497 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: fact engage, but that ring was predicted to be valued 498 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: at three million dollars, while the ring Lamar gave Chloe 499 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: was valued at two point five. So Courtney's ring is 500 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: the cheapest, I mean, still very expensive, but the nicest. Well, 501 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: did you guys remember back in twoy and eleven, in 502 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: an episode of Courtney and Kim Take New York, Scott 503 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: actually picked out a yellow diamond engagement ring and he 504 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: proposed to her at a dinner and she turned him down. 505 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: I wonder how he's feeling about all of this. Oh, 506 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: there's been so many memes about Scott and how he's 507 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: potentially feeling. So it was a canary diamond, by the way, 508 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: canary diamond. Sorry, I actually do love canary diamonds. I'm 509 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: sorry for getting that wrong. Yeah, that was such a 510 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: popular ring back in the day. The whole Scott thing, 511 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: it does come off the back of him messaging Unice, 512 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: which was Courtney's former boyfriend, that the young model sort 513 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: of bagging Courtney out, saying how gross the public displays 514 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: of affection were, and then Eunice called Scott out publicly. 515 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: So a lot of people think that he's not dealing 516 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: well with it. This is despite him having a string 517 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: of nineteen year old girlfriends since breaking up with Courtney. 518 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: But it always seems like he has been in love 519 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: with her from the start, but he's just so toxic. 520 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for Courtney to see her finally happy 521 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: with someone else. It's not having a job working twenty 522 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: four to seven for two days on the trot. I 523 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: don't want to play another time. I hate them. I 524 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: just want my life set a play stupitask all day 525 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: for two hundred pan shopping budget. Last week, Channel seven 526 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: revealed Big Brother will be returning to screens next year, 527 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: but with an all star lineup. The new format, called 528 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: Big Brother Back to the Future. All stars reportedly started 529 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: filming last week, and there's already strong rumors of which 530 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: old Bie Brother faves will be returning. How are you 531 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: guys feeling about this news. I'm so excited. I loved 532 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: the original series of Big Brother. I actually haven't watched 533 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: Big Brothers since it's been on Channel seven, but this 534 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: has definitely sparch my interest and I'll be tuning in. 535 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm feeling so nostalgic. I loved that show growing up. 536 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: We were in year seven at the time, and I 537 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: remember watching the finale and being so emotional because I 538 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: didn't want it to end. You felt like all of 539 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: them were your friends. I really hope that we see Sarah, 540 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: Marie and Blair back on you because they were just 541 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: the ogs. They're not going to be back. Sarah and 542 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: Marie will not be back. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, 543 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: but I did listen to an interview with her on 544 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: Mia Friedman's No Filter. I think it was from last year. 545 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: It was a great episode, and she is She's just 546 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: so down to earth you would not know she was 547 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: ever famous. She just loves like laying low in her 548 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 1: regular life. So I really highly doubt she will feature 549 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: on the show. Well seven have already released a teaser 550 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: for this series, and they have featured shots of Sarah, 551 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: Marie and of Blair, so I feel like they're trying 552 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: to maybe trick people into thinking that they're coming back. 553 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: Do you guys think that sky Wheaty will be back 554 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: because she did that whole thing. Remember when it was 555 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: unearthed that the Big Brother House on the Gold Coast 556 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: had been trashed and she did a vlog back in it. 557 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: And she keeps always bringing up that she'd love to 558 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: go back on the show, But I think Bear is 559 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: quite young at the moment, and she hasn't disappeared off 560 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: social media, so I don't think she will. Well, the 561 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: other night, she actually shared Instagram stories of her rewatching 562 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: herself on Big Brother and she's yeah, and she said 563 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: that she was so naive and young back then and 564 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: she would love to do it now. So I don't 565 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: know if that was a not so subtle hint that 566 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: she'll be on. But the thing is they're already filming, 567 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: so if she was in the house, she'd already be there. 568 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Might be an intruder, yes, well, unless she'd be a 569 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: good intruder, because I feel like she would say so 570 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: many controversial things, and it seems like with celebrity Big Brother, 571 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: that's what they were trying to get. They were trying 572 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: to get all these shit stirs on there, or people 573 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: that say politically incorrect things, and I think Sky would 574 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: be a perfect candidate for that. Well, the interesting thing 575 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: about this series is they're sending in I think it's 576 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: twelve of the original housemates, but then they're also sending 577 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: in twelve new housemates, so that's a bit I don't 578 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: like about it. I don't want anyone new. Do we 579 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: know if it's going to be the original format where 580 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: they actually focus on the relationships rather than these stupid tasks. No, 581 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be the same. Oh, are 582 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: you serious? I can't stand that. I'm sorry. We want 583 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: to know. We want the storylines. It's similar to Love Island. 584 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: We want we want to love story in there. We 585 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: want to know how the housemates are connected. We want 586 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: them to shit stir by nominating people I don't give 587 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: a shit up late and doing stupid challenges. If people 588 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: are interested in the challenges, do a Friday night up 589 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: late sort of situation exactly, Yeah, Friday Night Live. Sorry. 590 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: It's really exciting because there are strong rumors that Reggie Bird, 591 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: who won the show in two thousand and three, will 592 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: be returning, as well as Trevor Butler who won in 593 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. To be honest, I don't really 594 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: remember that much about Trevor, though I loved Reggie, but 595 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: Trevor was someone who was very much under the raidar 596 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: and then I remember the next year of Big Brother, 597 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: they actually brought in the sport in the system where 598 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: you could vote to save and eliminate because they didn't 599 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: want to be in the same boat where they had 600 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: sort of boring people left in the house at the end. 601 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: I remember Trevor being on the series with Ryan Fitzgerald, 602 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzgerald should have hands down won that series. 603 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: I wonder with the emergence of Reggie Bird whether Chrissy 604 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Swan will be on it because she's been on Celebrity 605 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: Master Chef. I'd like to see her back in the hand. 606 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: She would be great. Do you know who I have 607 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: also remembered that I haven't thought of for years is 608 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: Bree who used to host up Late that she was 609 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: bought back in the house and she basically came second 610 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: because she was evicted and then they realized that they 611 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: got the votes wrong and brought back in. And you 612 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: know who would be a hero these days is Marlon 613 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: Marlon Yeah, Jen Zitters would love him because he did 614 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: the silent protest to free the refugees and it was 615 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: such an important message at the time. But I remember 616 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: there was such mixed media exposure about the whole it 617 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: made out to be a villain that Tieah. I mean, 618 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: he was quite aggressive to Gretel Colleen. I'll say that, 619 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: but they did show the clip of him protesting in 620 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: the little teaser for the new series. And the other 621 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: housemate that's rumored to be returning is David Graham, who 622 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: was well known as the Farmer, and he came out 623 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: as gay in two thousand and six. Do you guys 624 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: remember that, because I remember it was such a big 625 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: deal at the time to come out as gay, whereas 626 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: these days it would be like, so what. That was 627 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: a great oment on TV. I think the fact that 628 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: they did share that story at the time, it's really 629 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: wild to reflect on it now and to think that 630 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: that was such a big deal to announce. But at 631 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: the time, it was quite revolutionary to share his story, 632 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: and I think it was one that would have stayed 633 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: with a lot of viewers watching it. Oh, I remember it. 634 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: You get goosebumps watching it back. The funny thing is 635 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: I remember that year of Big Brother. We actually take 636 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: recorded on VHS every single episode of the series to 637 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: watch back. I feel like we may still have those, yeah, 638 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: we do. So. Another housemate that's rumored to return is 639 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: a Stelle Laundy, and I had to google her because 640 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: I could not remember she was that skater girl doesn't remember. 641 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: She was in the series in twenty twelve. And what's 642 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: really interesting is I googled her and she was in 643 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail a few years ago because she met 644 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: Justin bieber Out whilst on a snow trip and so 645 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: they are all these photos and it's so weird because 646 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: on Instagram she only has three hundred and thirty seven 647 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: followers and she's now a mortgage broker. Whereas the lad 648 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: out to change. Yeah, whereas Ley Legend Ma Layla was 649 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: like oats a La Layla, they made that song. She 650 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: was in the same series and she has over fifty 651 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: two thousand followers, so she's clearly built up a bit 652 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: of an online following, and she's also rumored to be 653 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: appearing well. In terms of renowned Big Brother relationships, there 654 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: is one couple that is rumored to return, and that 655 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: is Tully Smythe and Drew Anthony and I would definitely 656 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 1: love to see that play out. I have listened to 657 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: Tully's podcast where she had Drew on the show, and 658 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: there seemed to be I don't know, I feel like 659 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: Tully is still in love with Drew. I know she's 660 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: got a boyfriend recently and they seem pretty loved up, 661 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 1: but you know it didn't stop her last time. Okay, 662 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: I can't say that I think that she's still in 663 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: love with him. I think she probably feels nostalgic about 664 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: that relation now there's still something there. Who wouldn't have 665 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: a crush on Drew. He was so hot when he 666 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: is on Big Brother. Well, there's another couple I'd like 667 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: to see back in the house to remember, Cat and 668 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've just had a mental bawson a 669 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: Cat and there was that cheating scandal as well, and 670 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: I think they're still together, So throw them back in 671 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: the house as well. So Dramatic, I believe, is the 672 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: one that has revealed all of these roomored housemates. We 673 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: just want to credit So Dramatic, and I would go 674 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: and listen to their recent episode on what we might 675 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: expect from the Big Brother House as well, and also 676 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: to jump onto her new website because she's got a 677 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: new news website at the moment which has all of 678 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: the goss on there too. But I'm super excited for 679 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: this to air. Apparently it will span over twelve weeks, 680 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: which is very exciting, and it's been filmed from October 681 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: to December, so it would be nice hot weather for 682 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: the housemates to get out and about in the pool. Well, 683 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for today. Thank 684 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: you so much for listening to another episode of Outspoken, 685 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: and if you would like to join in the conversation, 686 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: please head over to our Facebook community which is Outspoken 687 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: of the podcast community.