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<v Speaker 1>In most true crime stories, the crime is a house

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<v Speaker 1>of forest, the woods, the highway, shoulder. This one was

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<v Speaker 1>a stage with costumes, choreography, microphones, and lawyers waiting in

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<v Speaker 1>the wings. I love it already in August twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>In August twenty twenty two, a small church in McAllen, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>staged a musical. By the end of the week, it

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<v Speaker 1>had triggered copyright law, cultural war outrage, international headlines, and

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<v Speaker 1>illegal reckoning that would end with apologies, damages, and the

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<v Speaker 1>digital equivalent of evidence destruction. Online. People gave it a

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<v Speaker 1>name that sounded like a joke, Scammelton. What followed was

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<v Speaker 1>less a prank than a case study in how performance

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<v Speaker 1>can become a crime. This you Love is a story

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<v Speaker 1>of Scamblington, Alexander Scramblton.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, when I when you say they're waiting

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<v Speaker 2>in the wings, we are waiting in the wings. For

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<v Speaker 2>that's from Hamilton. I didn't a story. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>habled the names episode. Guys, we're gonna pass out.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know about this story? If you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about the story, great, Oh my god. So to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the scale of what happened, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Must say sorry. If someone has come across this episode

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<v Speaker 2>and they've not listened to our podcast before, I sound

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<v Speaker 2>like a crazy person.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Georgia Love and your sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>And I sound like crazy person, even if you have

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<v Speaker 2>heard every episode. If you know me personally, my whole life,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. I am obsessed with Hamilton, my favorite show

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<v Speaker 2>of all TIMEE musical theater is my favorite thing of

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<v Speaker 2>all time, and Hamilton is my favorite travel time. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>real damn excited.

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<v Speaker 1>So when did you find Hamilton? Let's talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>real quick before get into the story today. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time you actually saw it?

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<v Speaker 2>The first time I saw it was the original Broadway

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<v Speaker 2>cast filmed version on Disney Plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, on the fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Of July twenty twenty. Now that sounds like I'm real crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I remember it because they released it on that

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<v Speaker 2>It was meant it was filmed in twenty sixteen, oh

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<v Speaker 2>that long ago. Yes, And it was for Disney and

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to release later. It was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a subscriber and anything. No, no, no, no. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>it was frozen. He was frozen, Yes, Walt. Disney was

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<v Speaker 2>Frozen Musical twenty sixteen. Yes, Walt Disney was in the

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<v Speaker 2>musical Frozen, so he wasn't available to be in Hamilton

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<v Speaker 2>that okay, yes, But they filmed it way back then,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was going to be released as a subscriber

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<v Speaker 2>thing or in cinemas. But when the whole world was

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<v Speaker 2>in lockdown, Lynn Manuel Miranda the king that he is

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<v Speaker 2>and my future husband said release it to the masses.

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<v Speaker 2>And it came out on the fourth of July because

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<v Speaker 2>it's the American holiday. That's why I remember the date.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually that crazy, but I watched it for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time then I went, I really like this. The music's

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<v Speaker 2>really good. Got into it. It was very fast. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how I understood all of it. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>got home that night, I mean, I was definitely home

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<v Speaker 2>because we're in lockdown. I definitely wasn't at my sister's

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<v Speaker 2>house that I was a to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another crime, okay, Boomer.

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<v Speaker 2>I read all about it, like, got into bed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, right, I'm gonna deep dive. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite sure what this song was about. So I'll read

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<v Speaker 2>about the song and I'm like, oh, okay, yes, now

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<v Speaker 2>I've got more contacts. Oh okay, And then I watched

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<v Speaker 2>it again the next day, and by the end of it,

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<v Speaker 2>my jewel was on the floor and I was bawling,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, that is the best piece of

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<v Speaker 2>artip I ever seen live. And now I've watched it

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<v Speaker 2>on Disney plast minimum seventy times since then, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it live on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten ten times.

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<v Speaker 2>Why, once on the West End and once on Broadway.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, Oh my goodness, ready for this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so ready to send anybody you think.

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<v Speaker 1>To understand the scale of what happened, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the target. The Broadway musical Hamilton was and remains

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most protected pieces of theater in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and for good reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm gonna be so annoying this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I it's created simple control performance rights and have not

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<v Speaker 1>released licenses for amateur productions at all. No, that happens

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of musicals. Yes, but it's not. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not uncommon for me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, definitely not.

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<v Speaker 1>That meant schools couldn't perform at community theater, couldn't perform it,

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<v Speaker 1>even professional companies couldn't perform it without authorization. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that, and I think that is absolutely spot on

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<v Speaker 1>because if you saw a production of Hamilton that was shy.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was watching Hamilton. I went the night after

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<v Speaker 1>it dictated Dan in this goddamn country Dan Andrews, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I know. I love bloody love Dan Andrews.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Andrews went to Hamilton and got COVID and then

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<v Speaker 1>I went the night after and I was like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's gonna get COVID or anything. Oh my god. My

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<v Speaker 1>friend Adrian I went along and we just couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just like, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is incredibly heard it or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Never. I'd never heard of anything before. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'd seen is Jonathan Groff. A friend kept sending me

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<v Speaker 1>The King, going you would you would love the his character,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I do love this.

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<v Speaker 2>Character, but it's also so much better when you have

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<v Speaker 2>the context of the whole musical is R and B

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<v Speaker 2>and rap and oh and then an English character comes

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<v Speaker 2>out seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Ade and I were obsessed with one misstep

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing would be over like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, you're saying you're obsessed with a misstep that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, Dan Andrews falling down with COVID yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the misstep down the stairs, down the stairs. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this for our overseas listeners, but anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>what I was really interested in was it was so

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<v Speaker 1>quick and imagine seeing a production that wasn't my mum

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<v Speaker 1>once hit a production of what was Romeo and Juliet

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<v Speaker 1>at Osha Titter Company off Shortitter Company is a very

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<v Speaker 1>very very very very amateur got him in on Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Island and there was once a It had to be

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<v Speaker 1>in an Italian accent, and they got the most astrayed

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<v Speaker 1>woman to go my balla bambino Mum will come and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about on the pop one up. Okay, So every word, lyric,

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<v Speaker 1>costume and choreography was protected intellectual property and again.

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<v Speaker 2>Which it is for reason, Yeah, which it is for

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<v Speaker 2>every professional show until and unless they release the rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. And I think that Helpless is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those songs you would hear on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>It is well so yeah yeah, and it's written that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely so. When a small evangelical church, The Door Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Fellowship in McAllen, Texas, announced a live production in August

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, theater fans noticed immediately they weren't supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do that, but the show went

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<v Speaker 1>on anyway. Opening night August five, twenty twenty two, the

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<v Speaker 1>church staged its own version of the musical and live

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<v Speaker 1>streamed it to a little known site called YouTube dot

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<v Speaker 1>com with.

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<v Speaker 2>Their Lives Dream.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, viewers thought it was a parody and if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch it, yes, and I will put in these

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. Will put a best of version in there,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's little clips of it, and it is I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched it like ten times. Have you seen it? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is so your cat traits fuck, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to desecrate the actual show by putting

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing, but it's very funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not watch the whole thing, will, I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>the best of clips in there. The story had changed,

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<v Speaker 1>songs were rewritten.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because it's my Catholic church, so they didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>it like the are bits are about like an affair?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got there's so many themes

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<v Speaker 1>in there that they can't talk about. Characters were altered,

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<v Speaker 1>scenes were removed entirely. A new dialogue appeared, religious sermons

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<v Speaker 1>inserted directly into the plot. In one moment, a pastor

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<v Speaker 1>told the protagonist to accept Jesus into your heart right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, to Hamilton, to Alexander Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 1>The finale didn't end with applause. It ended with preaching.

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<v Speaker 1>The sermon reportedly compared homosexuality to addiction and personal struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Within hours, clip spread across TikTok. There's a song called

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<v Speaker 1>wait for It.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait for It, Wait for It. I am the one

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<v Speaker 2>thing and life I can't control. I am an animal,

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<v Speaker 2>I am an original. I stumbled over the word that

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<v Speaker 2>I have tattooed on myself, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the cause of that song. And that is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best songs in there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, it is one of the best songs I

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<v Speaker 2>ever written in the world. And even lin Maneuel Morada,

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<v Speaker 2>who wrote it, said that. He said afterwards he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote the two best songs I've ever written in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I gave to another character wait for It

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<v Speaker 2>and rum where it happens Aaron Burr, who he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play well.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the line from berg god damn it, I'm willing

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<v Speaker 1>to wait for it was changed to gosh darn it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to wait for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh done it. I'm willing to wait for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny. The play is just Hamilton really until

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<v Speaker 1>the forty two minute mark when Jesus comes in. Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>is in it, not Jesus in it, but they talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Jesus quite a lot. There were also hand fisted

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<v Speaker 1>moments where they added g I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think they would have been talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>With suggestions that Hamilton should just turn to Jesus when

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<v Speaker 1>he flatten. Their refuses at the end where he turns

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<v Speaker 1>to him. If you know the musical, there's also always

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<v Speaker 1>an applause break after the words immigrants, they get.

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<v Speaker 2>The job done, We get the job done.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the church that night there was just silence.

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<v Speaker 2>So they paused. Yeah because Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yuck. It's not only Texas, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in that particular church, yeah, there was not. There was

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<v Speaker 1>not an applause break. There are also audio problem throughout,

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<v Speaker 1>plus lighting mishaps, people standing in the darkness singing awkwardly

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<v Speaker 1>moving into the light to get themselves caught on in

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<v Speaker 1>the light.

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<v Speaker 2>That literally sounds like me just performing by myself in

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<v Speaker 2>my apartment on a Saturday night with one lamp on.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they just wait until the light finds them, so

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<v Speaker 1>just keep singing. In the musical, there's also a song

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<v Speaker 1>called Hurricane, which is about Alexander Hamilton realizing that only

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<v Speaker 1>he will be able to get himself out of the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>which is completely taken out because obviously God could help

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<v Speaker 1>him with that. No worries.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, God's the one that put the hurricane there if

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<v Speaker 2>you believe in him, So answer that that guy of

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<v Speaker 2>the hurricane. There is silence for just a moment yellow.

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<v Speaker 1>Sky in the song say no to This.

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<v Speaker 2>And People, which is a very sexy that's.

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<v Speaker 1>About the affair Alexander Hamilton is going to have his affair,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I believe very much. Tim Mentioned does this

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of his songs as well. He sings

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<v Speaker 1>about not having an affair and so no, but Hamilton

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<v Speaker 1>does have anything, Well he does, yeah, but I say

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<v Speaker 1>no to this is there is a song how can

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<v Speaker 1>I say this?

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<v Speaker 2>Because Bardy looks so her body looks so helpless, But

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<v Speaker 2>Mamanda is saying hell yes, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very sexy to see Lynn Manuel Miranda having

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<v Speaker 1>an affair. Very sexy stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me you say that? No that I will have

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<v Speaker 2>an affair with him one day and he will run

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<v Speaker 2>off with.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, Alexander Hamilton is going to have his affair. The

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<v Speaker 1>song is cut down to thirty seconds, and there is

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<v Speaker 1>a booing yell of no, which is really loud, which

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously just saying no to the affair. So no

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<v Speaker 1>comes really loudly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there isn't like there are nos in it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not meant to be like a much big I wondered,

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, what words did they put in

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<v Speaker 2>in place of She led me to her bed, let

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<v Speaker 2>her legs spread and said stay. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>time they just would have cut it out thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only thirty seconds. Eventually, Hamilton's son gets into a duel. Yes, Philip,

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<v Speaker 1>his son gets shot. The lyrics are changed to him finding.

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<v Speaker 2>God, but he dies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's story ones like Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not sad that he died because he went

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<v Speaker 2>to heaven? Is that what you're trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Us instead of Alexander Hamilton. In the end, reflecting on

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<v Speaker 1>his legacy, he talks about finding Jesus. Then he dies

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife sings about Aha, like how sad that

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<v Speaker 1>she is that he died, but she's going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>his legacy in history Alexander Hamilton's wife created the first

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<v Speaker 1>real orphanage as private private Yeah in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this version they decided to add that she

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<v Speaker 1>introduced tons of the children to Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the pastor comes out and delivers a fifteen minute

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<v Speaker 1>sermon after saying he will only speak for five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>The Internet gave this show a nickname scamming the viral

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene this is my next. The crime didn't unfold quietly,

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<v Speaker 1>It unfolded publicly. Video spread faster than the church could

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<v Speaker 1>control them. The singing, staging, and script changes were mocked online,

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<v Speaker 1>but the real outrage wasn't quality. It was a legal issue.

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<v Speaker 1>The production used the script without permission, altered the script,

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<v Speaker 1>streamed the performance publicly, and claimed authorization it didn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is the thing, right, I feel like, had

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<v Speaker 2>the church just it for there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yeah, church didn't go online and nothing happened with

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<v Speaker 1>it was advertised. Yeah, yeah, that's what I like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if they'd done that, he great point. One

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<v Speaker 2>would have known they did that. That's not really breaking

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<v Speaker 2>IP laws in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we heard someone fade out in real time. That

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<v Speaker 1>was quite nice. The way you did that all of

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<v Speaker 1>those violated copyright law. Fans began tapping. Sorry, so tagging

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<v Speaker 1>the crater.

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<v Speaker 2>Like tapping number that happened. Happened, that's forty second street.

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<v Speaker 1>Our fans began tagging the crater off Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, now I'm just picturing a bunch of Hamilton fans

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<v Speaker 2>like protesting on the street outside this church.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all homosexuals. Of course, within the days the production

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<v Speaker 1>team knew, then came decease and desist. The response came quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis the musical issued a cease and desist order demanding

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<v Speaker 1>the church remove all material from the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>I really hope they started the decease and cease and

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<v Speaker 2>desist letter with the words, dear sir, I hope this

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<v Speaker 2>letter finds you in good health and in a prosperous enough,

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<v Speaker 2>prosperous enough position to put wealth into pockets of people

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<v Speaker 2>like meat down and I look.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say the lawyers did not do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been fun. What is really weird is

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<v Speaker 1>that after the first performance, the pastor actually went to

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<v Speaker 1>the congregation and so that the owners didn't like that

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<v Speaker 1>it was released on YouTube, but that the owners approved

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<v Speaker 1>of them continuing the play, so would all be going

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<v Speaker 1>ahead soon?

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<v Speaker 2>Who said that the pastor, So he got to cease

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<v Speaker 2>and desist and took that back to the church and said,

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<v Speaker 2>they're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious to keep going fine. He said he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to give a big thank you to the producers

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<v Speaker 1>of Hamilton for supporting what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, So he's got a letter from the

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<v Speaker 2>producers of Hamilton on Broadway and just assumed it was

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<v Speaker 2>to congratulate them for supporting them.

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<v Speaker 1>Lying.

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<v Speaker 2>Lying is against the God's will.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but if you actually are.

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<v Speaker 2>No hei Mary's oh, I thought, if you're doing it

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<v Speaker 2>for the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>This was also a video which went viral on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>So the church was ensued for damages. This is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>A second performance at this stage was already scheduled. In

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<v Speaker 1>a very unusual move, and I do find this bizarre,

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<v Speaker 1>the right holders allowed the final showing to proceed under

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<v Speaker 1>strict conditions, no streaming, no publication, damages to be negotiated.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose. I mean the reason I went is going

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<v Speaker 2>to say is that potentially a little bit not entrapmany,

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<v Speaker 2>but a little bit dodgy. So then they could say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there were two performances, so now we want more, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to think not. And maybe they were like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>people have bought tickets in this tiny, little town church,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, we're still suing you for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can do it this one time and then

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<v Speaker 2>shut it down.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to watch these clips below. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>watch these clips. I was obsessed with it. I just

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<v Speaker 1>kept watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>The conditions were meant to contain the situation. They failed.

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<v Speaker 1>Clips leaked online. The internet had already archived the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Because also people would have gone to that second performance.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's insta famous. Yeah, wanted to do like, wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go and film it.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was, you know, obviously the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>this church had done something like this, or was it

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<v Speaker 1>oh died. They also wrote in their Easter play a

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<v Speaker 1>song which was just a rewrite of the opening song

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<v Speaker 1>to Hamilton, but the words were change from my name

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<v Speaker 1>is Alexander Hamilton too. His name was Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Jesus Christ of Narazareth. I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>million souls I've got to save. Just you wait, just

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<v Speaker 1>you wait, come on, sing it for me, Go on,

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<v Speaker 1>sing it. His name was Jesus Christ of Nazareth. His

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<v Speaker 1>name was Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I've got a million souls.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to say save. But just you, wid just you.

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<v Speaker 1>They also did in the Beast, in which the entire

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<v Speaker 1>play was based around ball, showing to the beast that

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<v Speaker 1>he had had he just had to find Jesus in

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<v Speaker 1>his life, and he would turn back to a real

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<v Speaker 1>human genuine question.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything in the Bible about beast reality?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that show's fine. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one of the funniest routines I've ever seen is

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<v Speaker 1>Whoopie Goldberg's old stand up where she goes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you lay with a sheep, you should be put

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<v Speaker 1>to death, and so shell the sheep, and she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck did the sheep do? Jesus Christ exactly, So, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's good in the beast. Help me see

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<v Speaker 1>the good in him, just as you see the good

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<v Speaker 1>in me. Balon the Beast also both bond that they

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<v Speaker 1>both read the Bible. So when they go the library

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<v Speaker 1>for the I read that when the Beast finds God,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I thought this was all a fairytale. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it now. You also sacrificed your life. You

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<v Speaker 1>were able to look past my sin and sacrifice your

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<v Speaker 1>life for even a beast like me. I will say that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a beast. He was a brince that was

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<v Speaker 2>turned into looking.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you found his behavior, he'd be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that this true. A long Bow has missed

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<v Speaker 2>the point of the factual non fiction story Beauty and

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<v Speaker 2>the Beast.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they also did toy story, but it's absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to know more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the toys found Jesus and they'll turn

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<v Speaker 1>into real people. I think that's what it's about, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not in toy story.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a headline the other day and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>read any further into it, but it said a new

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<v Speaker 2>Toy Story movie is coming out. It's like years into

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<v Speaker 2>the future and Woody has a receding hairline. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sense toy, Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. You're probably

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<v Speaker 1>also now wondering about the motive. Yes, I am, why

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<v Speaker 1>risk it? The church believe religious exemptions might protect the

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<v Speaker 1>off Us law allows houses of worship to perform certain

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<v Speaker 1>religious works during services religious work, but Hamilton is not

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<v Speaker 1>a religious work, and altering it makes a derivative work,

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<v Speaker 1>which is still protected.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say it is my religion. It is my religion.

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<v Speaker 2>I pray to live around every now, pray that he

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<v Speaker 2>will come and find me in my bedden, carry me.

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<v Speaker 1>The production also marketed tickets and broadcasts online actions outside

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<v Speaker 1>the exemption. In legal terms, this fucking mated. They hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>just performed the show, they reproduced it and modified it publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>With every religious event comes the confession. Once confronted, the

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<v Speaker 1>church changed its stories.

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<v Speaker 2>And Hamilton did confess to the affair in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>Rah because he said, bo, how do I know that

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<v Speaker 2>this won't I can't think of the exact words I am,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's saying, how does I know this won't come out?

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<v Speaker 2>The next time we go toe to toe and ursas Alexander,

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<v Speaker 2>rumors only grow and if you don't know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>I faded out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really nice again. Initially leaders suggested permission existed.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon after they admitted the truth, they had never requested

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<v Speaker 1>or received a license. They agreed to apologize publicly, never

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<v Speaker 1>staged again, destroy recordings, and pay damages, but the payment account. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>the payment amount was never disclosed. Also the payment account.

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<v Speaker 1>The right holders donated the money, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>amazing to lgbt QIA plus charity in Texas, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course they would have because they weren't suing

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<v Speaker 2>them for the money. It was to make a point

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't take someone's IP and reproduce.

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<v Speaker 1>And wedging in a sermon that they didn't. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just wild. The aftermath, the church's reputation collapsed overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>Online the event became folklore, part legal cautionary tail, part

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<v Speaker 1>internet spectacle. Theater professionals pointed out the deeper implication. If

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<v Speaker 1>the production had gone unchallenged, it would have been it

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<v Speaker 1>would have established a precedent anyone could rewrite a protected

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<v Speaker 1>work and distributed under a religious banner. Instead, the case

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<v Speaker 1>reinforced a clear legal line. Art cannot be repurposed without permission,

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<v Speaker 1>even by institutions claiming moral authority. There was no weapon, nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>no bloodstain in this crime g love, but there was evidence, recordings,

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<v Speaker 1>altered scripts, public statements and admissions. The stage lights dimmed,

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<v Speaker 1>the costumes were packed away. Now I feel sad and

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<v Speaker 1>the files were deleted all supposed to be. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>most modern crimes, the real crime scene was digital. And

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<v Speaker 1>once the Internet witnesses, and once the internet witness is something,

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<v Speaker 1>it never truly closes. The show ended, but the record didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I will put a link in the show notes below

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the best of clips, So you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to watch the whole thing, and you never have

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the whole thing, But that G Love is

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<v Speaker 1>a very brief overview of Scamblton.

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<v Speaker 2>And now, as a special treat I will perform the

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<v Speaker 2>entire three Hound musical for you, from top to bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say that one of the first times that

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<v Speaker 1>G Love and I hung out, It wasn't one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first times Bills one of the first times I

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<v Speaker 1>saw you perform What was it? I think you did

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<v Speaker 1>define gravity?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, hang on that. I thought we were going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk Aboutmilton.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and you did the whole thing and ordered people

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<v Speaker 1>around for upcoming props. So you were shouting in a

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen and wait, wait, you're doing a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, wait, wait.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not yet. You should have known when the broom

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<v Speaker 2>was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you should have known that it was a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>moment now, Okay, So Alexander Hamilton in the famous production

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton the Musical American Musical. So they bring this to Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's all going to be fine. There must

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<v Speaker 1>be so many instances of this that exist in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think a lot of the time a religious

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<v Speaker 1>exemption is what people think they can actually get away with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, taxes. There's bits and pieces of something where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, if it's for religion, we should be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're not making money, if we're you know, like they.

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<v Speaker 2>Are making money from this, whether they say they.

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<v Speaker 1>Are exactly exactly, and it's the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing about it is that they've put it on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>so they've made it viewable for other people, which means

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<v Speaker 2>they're reproducing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well make internet or if lots of other people he

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<v Speaker 1>said it was live streamed. Oh so so I mean

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<v Speaker 1>all of the other recordings as well were.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but a live streaming yes, yeah, means put on

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet, which means it can lead to making money

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<v Speaker 2>from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, which is wild as well that you know,

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>that was a part of it that if they did

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<v Speaker 1>this a long time ago, wouldn't have even been an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just hoping that it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Every exactly, if it wasn't live streamed, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just for the church that it never got to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's just so funny, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>do a shep production of it if you want. Don't

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 2>live stream I mean, like, don't that's literally, but I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care so much if you do that, but

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<v Speaker 2>don't change it to make it about the church when

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about that, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Put on the internet if I yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, I'm glad they did because it means me.

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>If that was me as the pastor, I would go,

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I can't believe I got this letter.

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>What did they think we do? They like it? Don't

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<v Speaker 1>say anyone was a standout.

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the pastor clearly was worrying about We're wondering about

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 2>that because I pretend they didn't say don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I will give you Greece. I will always

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>give you Greece. I think you want to put on

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<v Speaker 1>Greece if you don't put on grease in your town, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the best lives I've ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Said about Greece.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me finish. I want you to wait for it.

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Wait for It.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the best live musicals I've ever seen.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't Say Greece was a performance.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Greece I Don't think so at a high school

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:50.199
<v Speaker 2>in a low associore economic suburb of Melbourne. I was

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 2>invited along to see it. It was the most beautiful thing.

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>This school was putting on a production of Greece. And

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>they the money they were raising from, like the ticket sales,

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 2>they were going to donate to pan Care, which is

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 2>the foundation in Australia of which I'm the ambassador for

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 2>which I'm the ambassador. And they invited me along to

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>see the production and then present me with the check

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 2>for Pancare afterwards. A beautiful, beautiful thing to do. Was No,

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I spent it all on myself. I got macas on

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<v Speaker 2>my home.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I will get every film now now.

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>It was one of those big novelty checks to do

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 2>you take check surname care. It was genuinely one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most enjoyable experiences ever pard at the theater because

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 2>it was all of the cliches of like a really

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 2>bad high school musical, but they were loving. They were

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I was loving being on stage. The second that the

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 2>curtain went down, you could hear them whooping and cheering

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>and like high fiving. It was genuinely the most like

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>one of the most enjoyed live theater experiences I've ever seen.

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 2>It was amazing. The girl playing pat Patsy, Oh my god,

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:23.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm blanking the cheerleader. Oh my god. Fuck, it's not Patsy.

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 2>But oh no, it's going to annoy me. Okay, they

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 2>will message me straight away. The girl playing the head cheerleader,

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Patty sim Cox. Oh, thank god. That feels so good

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 2>when you remember something like that. Anyway, the girl playing Cox,

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 2>who was the head's cheerleader, that is their entire role

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>in the show, was in a moon boot the Freddie

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>My Love scene where they're like dancing on the bed.

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 2>The bed broke and the girl playing Marty fell through it,

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>but just kept seeing. They kept performing.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>That's actually became amazing.

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>The clear thing that happens in every high school musical

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 2>is where there is one person and the if the

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 2>performances of Greece, it's always the guy playing Kiniki, who

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 2>looks at least twenty five years old. Amazing. I loved

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 2>it so much. Was I was just so happy the

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>one they did in Australia, like it was like fifteen

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 2>years ago or something was great, right. The game that

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 2>was here recently was not a great.

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Well. This was the one where Marcia Heinz. Yeah, and

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>she came out on stage and I don't think she

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>knew that she was part of Greece.

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 2>She just thought she was doing just singing beauty school

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 2>dropout on stage every night.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Because she came out for the one song and just

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 1>kept going sing along if you know the words. She

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>really broke the fourth wall.

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 2>And really did it as marsha.

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>He it was just marcha h is great, but it

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was just it was just very funny to watch that

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>guy I know about this musical no more very funny. Yeah,

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, Scramblton. So I've been interested in this and

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>we had a beautiful listener amii is amily. I think Emily,

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>please at me if I didn't pronounce your name right,

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>but actually messaged me about this because I didn't know

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>about this, send it to me, which sent me on

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>a spiral of not researching, just watch straight away. I

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>watched all of that and I couldn't stop watching it.

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I know we call these episodes Thursday treats because it

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 2>is a treat for the listener that they get something different.

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>This has been a treat I thought it would be.

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>You are a very good friend to me because you

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 2>knew I would have been just disgustingly annoying during that episode.

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>No, but it did for me. It would be a

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>fun episode because when I heard the name Scambillton, I

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, I can't not do that. I thought it'd

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>be a really good one to do. And we always

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>love suggestions.

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do, Yeah, we do love suggestions. And I

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>would like your suggestions of some Thursday treats you want

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 2>me to do, because Sammy is really good at doing

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>the treats and because of that, I've, you know, just

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 2>without discussions, sat back and put my feet up and

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>let him do all the treats. But if there's any

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>of that you guys think I would would be good

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>ones for me to tell Sammy, like Fist.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>To remember that was one of my favorite episodes, Fist

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Operation Fist, just really fun ones. We love doing Thursday

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>treats as well because it is so fun and when

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>we don't have guests on, it is just so fun

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to just sit back and do something short episode, and

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>usually at some sort of scandal, some sort of crime.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I love that because of this, the LGTP LGBTQI plus cool. No,

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>the lgbt qia A plus our community got some money

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>out of this. I think that's great because you know,

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>they were so they're kind of discarded in this production,

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and I just think it's so great that and also

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's a Broadway musical, you know, which is eighty

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>nine point nine maybe ninety nine point nine percent the

0:30:54.840 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>homosexual community, the queer community, so I think me, yeah, yeah.

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>And Jonathan Groff, he's part of the queer community, I

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 2>must say, unfortunately for me, because he would be my

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 2>number one husband choice. Mister Carl, who's mister Carl? And

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I forgot you forgot.

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Call him Andrew Carl and I felt really weird calling

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>him Andrew.

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I felt weirder you call him, call him doctor Carl.

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>And Carl is engaged to my friend to marry him.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>This has not been about you marrying someone.

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I've just said to let me talk about who I'm

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>going to marry. I thought you were saying.

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>No, they weren't for you. I weren't offering these people

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>up for you. I was just saying that aren't that

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>many street straight people. So I'm glad this week to

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>theater in theater.

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Have they meant to go to go to No, I'm

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>not in theater. I just included myself.

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>No, I've never seen any of this. You've just made

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>up this whole thing in your head. Sweet girl, good

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>only girl friend. You've done such a wonderful job.

0:31:56.200 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite line from Hamilton, Sammy? I?

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I like the immigrants line a lot, and that is

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>just such a powerful That is such a powerful line.

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And you know a little tippit about that is they

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>never So there's just a bar. There's four notes after

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>that because it gets such big applause and cheers every night.

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 2>When it was first written, there was no because they

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 2>go immigrants, we get the job done and then the

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>music goes just for four beats. That was never in there,

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 2>but they had to put that in because every night

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>there were so many cheers that you couldn't hear the

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>next line.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>We love in this production that they didn't get us.

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>So there was just the bar. What's your favorite line

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in there of all time? And I also love I

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>love the entire You'll be back so and I think,

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>fight the Fighter, Win the War. I there is no

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>one comparable ever to Jonathan Crawford. And so when I

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>watched that, I ended up watching the Disney Plus version

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, after I saw the Australian version

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and I saw the lips of Jonathan Craft, and I

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, I want to just watch this version because

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the king in that was like, it's it's on another level.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 2>He's on stage four and I can't remember the exact

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 2>amount of time, but it's something like six and a

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 2>half minutes or I think he's singing for six and

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>half stage for nine minutes of a three hour show,

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and he steals the show.

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>It's the equivalent for me of Steve Martin as the

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>dentist in the film version of Forest Like it is

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>such a powerful moment where you go, oh, there's no

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>one else I could have ever imagine doing this, And

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>so when you watch that version, you go, that is

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>absolutely incredible, and yeah, fight the fight and win the war.

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>You'll be back like before. Yeah. I just think that.

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I think the bestline from that song is and when

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 2>push comes to shove, I will do remind you of

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>my love.

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Yeah. So what's your favorite line in the production.

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I think my favorite line will be excuse me, miss,

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I know it's not funny, but your perfume smells like

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>your dad. He's got money. That's really funny. But I

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 2>think the most clever line that I think is so

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 2>overlooked and people don't realize how clever it is because

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>again it's like there are so many words in it

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 2>just kind of gets overlooked. But he says. Burr says

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>to Hamilton at one point that did you hear that

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>someone called Mercer had died? And then he says, Madison

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 2>and Jefferson are merciless, hate the city of merciless merciless

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 2>mercerless because Mercer died. Fuck, that's clever. Miranda's mind is brilliant.

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>And there are so many little lines in like in

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>it like that that are a play on words or

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>really clever little ode or nod to something that people

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>don't pick up. It just sounds like a line. They're like, oh,

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Madison and Jefferson mercier less.

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Watch Hairspray, you hate his bro I actually quite like

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the film.

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, the film is the only.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Like the production, but I love I think the film

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>is so brilliant for.

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Walking Chicago, Yes, and Wicked. The films are better than

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>the shows, yes.

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Edna, You're timeless to me. Hairlines

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>get shorter, whatever me cheese, Babe, you're.

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Just getting better with a you lack a fatal disease.

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Babe, there's no cue, so let this fever rade. It's

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>so good, Like it's brilliant that that film version is.

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I know, Oh my god, I've just forgotten all about

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Lin Manuel and Jonathan Groff because I just remembered Zach

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Efron in Hairspray. That is when he was just peak beautiful.

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>It's so beautiful him as lean And and James Marsden

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 2>as Corny Collins in the one movie. Holy shit, I'm

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 2>surprised I didn't get pregnant wanting that movie. Can I says,

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 2>choose myself?

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Can I say James Marsden as well? So our good

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>friend Taylor messaged me recently and said to me. She

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>said to me, I should be so lucky.

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 2>She said to me, she maybe once a day will

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 2>send me a screenshot or show me on her phone

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation you guys have had on Instagram. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>The funniest like me the other day and the name

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<v Speaker 1>of it was throat Girl eighty seven or something, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just said to her, they used to call me

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<v Speaker 1>throat girl ladies seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I know she showed me that today. She literally showed

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<v Speaker 2>me that.

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<v Speaker 1>So funny. I'm just texting in her like a corporate

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<v Speaker 1>office lad but high school to call tha anyway, So

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<v Speaker 1>oh ship I was talking about just then link As

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor said, have you seen The Jury Jury Duty, ju Judy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is one of the funniest shows you will ever see.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a second series coming out soon, Yes, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>trailer no, and it's going to be amazing. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a holiday camp or something, and it looks amazing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fantastic. But basically, if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so worth watching vaguely related to crime because

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<v Speaker 1>the jury, but god, it is funny, and I tell

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that hasn't watched it yet to watch it because

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<v Speaker 1>the guy in it comes out as the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>person ever. Because basically, I'm going to sorry, basically.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a good night. We're talking about how much

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<v Speaker 2>I've you'll let me sing. You've got to sew back,

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't care about that right now, because I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 1>About Okay, my neck, my pussy, and my crack are fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But all I want to say was that Jury Duty

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<v Speaker 1>it's about basically what they do. It's a hidden camera show,

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<v Speaker 1>like an old hidden camera show, but it's so updated

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<v Speaker 1>with modern times because the only person that thinks it's

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<v Speaker 1>real is the main character that they've got from a

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<v Speaker 1>casting agency. There's somehow made him, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the technicalities are, there's somehow made him feel No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>A casting agency, so what it was?

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<v Speaker 1>He knows that he's being filmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so he has got like, got to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>call up for jury duty, as people do. So his thought, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's fake, but he believes he's going for jury duty.

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<v Speaker 2>And the morning of selection they have said they're filming

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<v Speaker 2>a documentary about jud jury. Yes, so if you get

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<v Speaker 2>picked for this jury, would you consent to be part

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<v Speaker 2>of the documentary? Consented to that? But every single other

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<v Speaker 2>person that appears on camera for this whole show is

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<v Speaker 2>an actor and knows that it's all fake, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>the only one being pranked, and it is just fucking

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant and we talk often on this podcast about how

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<v Speaker 2>pranks are not funny at all.

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<v Speaker 1>This it's phenomenal. So it's so good, and the behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes of it when they actually reveal everything at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, it is so brilliant to watch all that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But Taylor sent me that, and James Marsden

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<v Speaker 1>is in that. He is one of the funniest actors

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen, because he's in scenes that would make

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<v Speaker 1>anyone laugh, like he has to keep a straight face,

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<v Speaker 1>and because.

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<v Speaker 2>He's playing himself because obviously he's a recognizable actor, so

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else is like they're just playing people in the community.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's playing James Marsden.

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<v Speaker 1>He's playing James Marsden. And he is so brilliant because

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<v Speaker 1>he buys into it like I'm a big star and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Even hires paparazzi to come to the courthouse to take

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<v Speaker 1>photos of him, and it is so funny. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people that I go, why aren't you

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest star in the world, Like he is big,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not one of those people as the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>star in the world. We go, even Marsden, he's so

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<v Speaker 1>fucking good.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even everyone recognizes his name, and that's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>they make fun of in the show as well. The

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<v Speaker 2>people all know his face and know the movies he's

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<v Speaker 2>been in, but can't don't know his name. Since the Notebook,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been my number one, like fate, sorry number two.

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<v Speaker 2>Notebook God, Sammy. If you love James Marsden, now wait,

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<v Speaker 2>do you see him in the Notebook? He so you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen it, but I'm sure you know the storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole thing is two people fall in love when

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<v Speaker 2>they're young. Her parents don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want them to rom and Juliet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, her parents don't want them to be together. She

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<v Speaker 2>moves away, they don't see each other again. She ends

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<v Speaker 2>up getting engaged to this beautiful, very rich from a

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous family. Her family loves him, she loves them everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Then she comes into contact with their first love again, James.

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<v Speaker 2>James Marsden is the beautiful man who's just come back

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<v Speaker 2>from war with all the money and beautiful family and

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<v Speaker 2>the family loves and everything. My bringerscribe with the Notebook.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. It is one of the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>love stories of all time. But I think it is

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<v Speaker 2>false because I don't I don't know anyone that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>choose James Marsden in that white army outfit. Holy fuck. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it's my take on the I don't like I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>consciously horny today, but I'm sound.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, you only mentioned being horny in the last

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<v Speaker 1>episode recorded, so it's has come out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It hasn't come out of nowhere. I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>marrying Jonathan Groffin.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. I was winning the last weird Anyway, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you'd like Scammellton this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. It's made me, honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't you know?

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't? I was concentrating on what I was going

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<v Speaker 1>By the time you're listening to this, there'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new Confessions episode by podcast out with Emily Tany

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<v Speaker 1>and Christy will and Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, I god damn bloody musical theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Star's absolutely incredible, and so is Emily Titany as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see your money.

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<v Speaker 2>Why why you plug your thing? Let me plug my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time this episode comes out season eight of

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<v Speaker 2>my other podcast, Everyone has an Ex, we'll also be

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<v Speaker 2>out or we'll have started, so please listen to that

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and one day I'll have lin Manuel Miranda on

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone has an Ex talking about his ex, his beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>current life Vanessa, who seems loved and unfortunately she's not me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's married to VanNess.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I hope that one day we get to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And my mind is trying to go, but her hand

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<v Speaker 2>is on mine and I don't say no, say no

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<v Speaker 2>and say get this ride the surrender my early line.

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<v Speaker 2>The world will never be the say early