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Speaker 1: Well, it is looking as though we're finally going to

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Speaker 1: have a services club in Darwin, with plans to revive

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Speaker 1: one of Darwin's most renowned buildings, Admiralty House, given the

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Speaker 1: green light by the Minister for Lands, Planning and Environment,

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Speaker 1: Joshua Burgoyne. Minister Burgoyne joins me on the line. Good

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Speaker 1: morning to your minister.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning to you listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now it is great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: This building is sat idle for quite some time. The

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Speaker 1: Heritage Council, as I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: had previously denied the development for a services club. Is

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Speaker 1: that the case? And do you know why?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So really important, Katy. I think there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of information out there on certain Facebook sites. Is

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Speaker 2: what actually occurred in this matter. I received a report

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Speaker 2: from Heritage Council. There were seventeen works as part of

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Speaker 2: that report into Admiralty House. The Heritage Council raised concerns

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Speaker 2: with one of the seventeen works. That's really important to

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Speaker 2: sort of get out thereasically. As a result of that,

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Speaker 2: I sought additional information in regards to the works that

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Speaker 2: were going to be undertaken and then from that additional

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Speaker 2: information that I received was able to make an informed decision.

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Speaker 2: But the works that were going to be carried out

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Speaker 2: would not affect the heritage of the building to such

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Speaker 2: an extent that it could not proceed. So I think

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Speaker 2: that there's sort of been a bit of information out

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Speaker 2: there saying that it had been knocked back, that it

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Speaker 2: wasn't approved. There were seventeen works that were to be completed,

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Speaker 2: one of which was a concern, and then with the

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Speaker 2: additional information, I was able to make a decision as

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Speaker 2: the Minister to say that these works could proceed.

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Speaker 1: So what was that one that was a concern?

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Speaker 2: The heritage cancel raised concerns in regards to the shade

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Speaker 2: structure which is going to be erected beside Admiralty House.

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Speaker 2: So I think the most important thing, and I'm just

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Speaker 2: looking now at some of the there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: conditions in regards to the actual works that are going

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Speaker 2: to be taken place. So obviously they need to be

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Speaker 2: separate to the main building and it doesn't necessarily obstruct

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Speaker 2: the view of Admiralty House from the street. So I

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Speaker 2: think some of those pictures which people may or may

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Speaker 2: not have seen, that are obviously on the ant News

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Speaker 2: and a few other sites. The shade structure is quite large,

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Speaker 2: it's beside the building and you can actually see the

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Speaker 2: main building from the street view. So that's obviously something

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Speaker 2: that's taken into consideration when all these things are being

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Speaker 2: planned because obviously buildings like that, we want to be

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Speaker 2: able to see them, protect them and use them into

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Speaker 2: the future. So yeah, it was a positive thing at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day where the proponent was able

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Speaker 2: to work with I guess myself as a minister because

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Speaker 2: I really wanted to be assured that we protected the

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Speaker 2: heritage value of that Admiralty House formerly known as the

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Speaker 2: Old char Building, and yeah, ensure that someone could go

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Speaker 2: in there and utilize that building into the future.

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Speaker 1: So Minister, that you didn't have to override the Heritage

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Speaker 1: Council to make this decision.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's important. I think basically there's a

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Speaker 2: report that's given to me as the minister. I consider

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Speaker 2: that report, and then I sought additional information to ensure

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Speaker 2: that whatever decision I made was I guess in keeping

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Speaker 2: with what the goal was of the Heritage which is

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Speaker 2: to ensure that the actual heritage values of that building

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Speaker 2: are protected into the future. So obviously there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of works completed on that building over a long

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Speaker 2: period of time prior to me coming to this role.

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Speaker 2: Obviously there's a bar down below and then the second

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Speaker 2: floor or the first floor, depending on how you're looking

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Speaker 2: at it is sort of still very in keeping with

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Speaker 2: the traditional aesthetics of the building. So it's just about

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Speaker 2: ensuring that that is protected in the future. And I

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Speaker 2: was able to make that decision with the additional information

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Speaker 2: which was those I guess visual representations of what it

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Speaker 2: was going to look like after those works were complete.

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Speaker 1: So Minister, what steps are going to be undertaken to

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Speaker 1: ensure the integrity of the building. It sounds like the

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Speaker 1: services class but going to have to do quite a

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Katie. So they'll have to use a heritage consultant

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Speaker 2: to ensure for as part of the construction process, there

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Speaker 2: will also be an arborist which will have to be

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Speaker 2: utilized to ensure that the existing building of the existing trees,

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Speaker 2: whilst not heritage listed, I guess, make up part of

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Speaker 2: the esthetic of that building. So just to ensure that

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Speaker 2: the trees looked after and then obviously a close out

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Speaker 2: report is required at the end of all the works

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Speaker 2: for the builder to be able to explain how they've

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Speaker 2: been able to go about all the works and ensure

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Speaker 2: that they've ticked off all the condition and requirements that

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Speaker 2: have been placed upon them. So for anyone out there

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Speaker 2: that has concerns, this has been a very long process.

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Speaker 2: I know that the rs I wanted to get in

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Speaker 2: there much earlier than what they have. It's been something

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Speaker 2: that we've been working through. We've been meeting all our

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Speaker 2: deadlines as set out in the Act. But obviously when

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Speaker 2: you're spending money to essentially hold onto that building, which

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Speaker 2: is I believe was the case there with Old Admiralty House,

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Speaker 2: they wanted to get in there as soon as they

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Speaker 1: And I mean the fact is it's been utilized in

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Speaker 1: the past as a restaurant, so I guess for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people we're kind of scratching our heads. So

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Speaker 1: as well on the other side, going well, hang on

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Speaker 1: a sec. If it's been utilized as a restaurant in

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Speaker 1: the past, why isn't it going to be able to

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Speaker 1: be used as a services club? You know what's changed?

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Speaker 1: I suppose from a lot of us that was what

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Speaker 1: we were wondering.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point you mate, Katie. Is that for me,

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to continue to walk past, and I

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Speaker 2: do walk past Admiralty House. It's about every time I

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Speaker 2: walk into work. I wanted to be able to see

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Speaker 2: it utilized into the future. You know, it's been sitting

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Speaker 2: there idle for quite some time, unfortunately, closed over a

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Speaker 2: year ago and some of the glass panels have been broken.

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Speaker 2: So when that is being utilized, when it's been used

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Speaker 2: back as a restaurant as a services club once again,

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Speaker 2: people will be able to go into that building and

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Speaker 2: enjoy it. And I think that's a really important part

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Speaker 2: of this. You know, we can have buildings sit idle

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Speaker 2: and sort of just with all away. We want to

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Speaker 2: ensure that building is maintained into the future and that's

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Speaker 2: what this will enable to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, Minister, we are going to be catching up with

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Speaker 1: the chair of the Services Club after ten o'clock to

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Speaker 1: find out a little bit more about how quickly they're

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Speaker 1: going to be able to get things going. Really appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. Thank you so much for having

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Speaker 1: a chat with us.

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Speaker 2: Not a promen all Katie, thank you, you two