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Speaker 1: Every by whose sun bottle of the jolsy and the

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Speaker 1: handlescope and driven. It seems to me lately the boomers

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Speaker 1: can't win.

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Speaker 2: Is that interesting that there's been this big It used

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Speaker 2: to be okay boomer, Now it's okay, Karen. If you're

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Speaker 2: particularly if you're female, you get painted with all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: If you've got an opinion, you're seen as a boorish,

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Speaker 2: boring older woman. But guys copy the boomer stuff as well,

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Speaker 2: and the press is filled with stories about how we

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Speaker 2: should be getting out of our houses and make way

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Speaker 2: for younger people to buy them, stories of how we're

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Speaker 2: propping up our kids too much. This is an interesting

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Speaker 2: statistic the Bank of Mum and Dad. In the nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighties only around fifteen percent of first time buys received

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Speaker 2: support from their parents. Today it's forty percent. So the

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Speaker 2: Bank of Mum and Dad has injected over two point

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Speaker 2: seven billion dollars into the property mine in the year

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Speaker 2: to November twenty twenty three. It's amazing, isn't it. Whether

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Speaker 2: that's helped with the mortgage, whether it's being a guarantee

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Speaker 2: on a loan, or that kind of incline to support.

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Speaker 3: So on.

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Speaker 2: One hand, we're told that boomers are wrecking the market

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Speaker 2: because we're supporting our children, and therefore there's a big

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Speaker 2: divide between the haves and the have nots.

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, I saw this headline the.

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Speaker 2: Other day boomers embrace shockingly selfish act. Guess what it

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Speaker 2: is not taking a library books back?

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Speaker 1: That's very selfish.

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Speaker 3: No, they're now spending their inheritance. So you're selfish if

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Speaker 3: you spend.

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Speaker 1: It kids inheritance.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, spending the kids inheritance.

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Speaker 2: So you're selfish if you spend it, and you're ruining

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Speaker 2: the property system and you're indulging your kids if you don't.

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Speaker 1: We aren't really in the boomer category.

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Speaker 4: I know that you're right on the cusp of it,

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Speaker 4: and I'm Generation X.

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Speaker 1: You're on the cusp of Generation X, and being.

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Speaker 2: A boomer, I'm kind of called generation Jones. Actually that

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Speaker 2: the middle of which I am.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Generation X.

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Speaker 5: I feel that we are the quiet achieve a generation

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Speaker 5: where the generation that we had boomer parents who got

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Speaker 5: all the cheap real estate, so we had to work

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Speaker 5: like bastards to buy a house, and.

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Speaker 3: Now our kids it was relative to wage.

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Speaker 1: Can I finish this? So we had to work like

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Speaker 1: bastards to buy a house. And then now that.

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Speaker 4: Kids are going to like, I've got no money, But

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Speaker 4: they don't seem they want to work three days a week.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, might just sharp at work. Have you noticed

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Speaker 4: the kids these days? They just don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't have the gumpture to work hard anymore.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know they have to have the day off

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Speaker 3: when they're having a birthday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I never had that.

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Speaker 4: I had a boss one time he said, you can

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Speaker 1: You know. I died one day.

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Speaker 4: And he came to the funeral and he.

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Speaker 1: Said to my grieving family, he said, come on get

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Speaker 3: And it worked. You put a band aid on and

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Speaker 3: you got back to.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened.

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Speaker 4: You know. I left home when I was about eighteen.

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Speaker 4: But we talk about it my old day.

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Speaker 3: But aren't these are these things harsh? Actually?

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Speaker 2: I did a topic for our podcast that I do

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Speaker 2: with Anita McGregor called double a chattery.

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Speaker 3: Looking at this that kids today.

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Speaker 2: Are in touch with their parents far more than former generations.

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Speaker 2: Is it a good thing? Or is it a bad

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Speaker 3: That's all they expected, That's all you expected.

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Speaker 2: This professor is actually saying he has to tell his

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Speaker 2: those years now staying home coming back after divorces. Is

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Speaker 2: way to live? Because one of the things we talked

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Speaker 2: about was in the old days, in our day, you

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Speaker 2: who has quite possibly hungover. Now you're getting your life

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Speaker 2: advice from a forty nine year old parent who is hugely.

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Speaker 3: Invested in the choices you make. It's a very different

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Speaker 4: I go to admit I feel sometimes my youngest son,

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Speaker 4: he was working at a local club, and I was

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Speaker 4: almost Jedi mind tricking him. I'm standing there in the

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Speaker 4: local club just watching him behind the bar, and please

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Speaker 4: just go and serve that customer. Just go go serve

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Speaker 4: the customer, and then pick up those glasses over there.

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Speaker 3: Oh for good and what was he doing?

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Speaker 4: He was just like standing there, not engaging. I'm just going, dude,

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Speaker 4: just be more aware of what's going on. As it

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Speaker 4: turns out, customer service is possibly not for him, and

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Speaker 4: he's going into a career in it.

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Speaker 1: He's doing that at university.

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Speaker 2: But he lives in you live in a big house

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Speaker 2: where he has his own space to live.

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Speaker 4: And he's the last of my kids are living at home.

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Speaker 4: And I do enjoy his company. I like to seeing

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Speaker 4: my kids when they come over so part.

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Speaker 2: But are you are you when you say he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have the drive, He doesn't need the drive. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to pay rent, he doesn't have to wonder whether

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Speaker 2: he can afford close that. He doesn't have to worry

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Speaker 2: about that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to get into radio.

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Speaker 4: I remember when I went for that school excursion and

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Speaker 4: it excited me about seeing two sm and the radio station.

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Speaker 4: And I'm looking down on it now like we're looking

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Speaker 4: And I was so excited about it, but I didn't

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Speaker 4: know how to get into it. How does one get

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Speaker 4: into radio? How do you even do it? And it

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Speaker 4: took a long time, and I won't go into the

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Speaker 4: big details about it, but I worked like hell to

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Speaker 4: get to where I am now, and you still do

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Speaker 4: every day. It never stops, It never stops. This thing's

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Speaker 4: always going, but it always excites me. I love coming in.

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Speaker 4: We're lucky, and I love the passion of that. And

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Speaker 4: I am very grateful because I've worked in a lot

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Speaker 4: of different jobs, from working in concreting to working in

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Speaker 4: working as an outboard motorrecor. I've worked in many, many

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Speaker 4: different jobs, and I know it's like to get your

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Speaker 4: clock literally go backwards as you're sweating morning tea. I

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Speaker 4: know what that feeling is. But even then, I had

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Speaker 4: this passion for something better. Do the kids not have

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Speaker 4: the passion?

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Speaker 2: But I think it doesn't matter that it's for something better,

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Speaker 2: the passion for what you're doing. Yes, we're very lucky

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Speaker 2: that we love our job. You, I imagine, were enthusiastic

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Speaker 2: about all those jobs you had because that's the nature

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Speaker 2: of who you are. So do you strive to do

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Speaker 2: something amazing that's going to make you feel amazing every

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Speaker 2: day and if.

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Speaker 3: You don't, then you don't do anything.

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Speaker 2: I think we need to find a balance of loving,

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Speaker 2: love the one you're with, lean into what you're doing

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Speaker 2: and make that work for you. And if you find

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Speaker 2: your passion in there, you're going to have a happier life.

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Speaker 2: The Love Bank of Mum and Dad. Oh, actually that

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Speaker 2: sounds dreadful.

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Speaker 3: You do, No donations required. Let's end here, shall we, Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's it.

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Speaker 1: Day come back too. The macroscope