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Speaker 1: Welcome back to three doting dads.

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Speaker 2: I am Mattie Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Dave Hughy

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Speaker 2: Hughes and thanks for having me, thanks for including me,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for widening your doting dad circle.

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Speaker 1: It is an absolute pleasure. You are now a doting

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Speaker 1: dad and Husey. In case you didn't realize, this is

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Speaker 1: a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, it

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Speaker 1: is the.

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Speaker 3: Bad and the relatable.

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Speaker 1: Ash Night, for legal reasons, are not allowed to give advice.

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Speaker 1: We are mandated by a legal team.

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Speaker 4: But there's a loophole. The guests are allowed to give advice.

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Speaker 4: All right, great, so you have any I'm full of it.

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Speaker 2: And as Mattie knows from our time and the I'm

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Speaker 2: a celebrity jungle, I'm full of advice.

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Speaker 1: He's a wise man.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: And that's why you're here.

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Speaker 5: Thank you to enlighten us.

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Speaker 1: Good to enlighten the.

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Speaker 2: Li and like myself, you off and off and I

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Speaker 2: come up with the gems and I go, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it will help me.

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Speaker 1: You'll be on the bus right home after this going fuck.

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Speaker 3: I just I'm a genius. I'm a parenting genius. I

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Speaker 3: don't even know it.

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Speaker 1: I do have to say we are, of course, at

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Speaker 1: my kitchen table. I have a set of school shoes

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Speaker 1: arriving bake school, not me. Fucking Marley has just grown

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Speaker 1: out of her school shoes, so I had to order

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Speaker 1: another pet. They will arrive I think during the record,

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Speaker 1: and when anyone knocks on the door, Buster will bark

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Speaker 1: like we're being robbed. Yep, okay, so there's a knock

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Speaker 1: and there's barking.

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Speaker 5: Mate.

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Speaker 2: I've got a wife who spends I think most of

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Speaker 2: her nights are buying stuff online, and then she goes

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Speaker 2: to work until I'm the one who has to be

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Speaker 2: there during the day, so that happens a lot.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to manage expectations, Dave. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about what life was like growing up. I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: it was super yachts, helicopters, not far from what life

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Speaker 1: is like right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so thank you for that assumption.

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Speaker 2: But no, I grew up in a country town in

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Speaker 2: Victoria called Warnambull, which is about maybe thirty thousand people

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Speaker 2: now it is probably twenty thousand when I was growing up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we weren't in the rich.

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Speaker 5: Part of town.

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Speaker 2: We're in the commission house area. Of town west warnable,

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Speaker 2: the emphasis on West Hill west as and so yeah, it.

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Speaker 5: Was a different time.

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Speaker 2: It was more the wild West really in the seventies,

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Speaker 2: you know. So there was like dogs would roam the streets.

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Speaker 2: No dogs ever had to stay in yards. How would

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Speaker 2: just roam the streets and they would get run over

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Speaker 2: quite often any dog attacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there was.

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Speaker 2: Streets you wouldn't want to ride your bike down because

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Speaker 2: the dogs in that street were like angry. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: so there's yeah more attacks than they are now, and

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Speaker 2: dogs could survive the attacks. It was less likely that

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Speaker 2: the dog would get you know, taken to the farm,

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Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, if a bit a kid.

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Speaker 5: Basically the kid would have to.

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Speaker 2: Look inside themselves and go why did I why did

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Speaker 2: that dog buy me?

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Speaker 4: You know one of this podcasts all about dog attacks.

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Speaker 4: What about school? I would we would assume that.

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Speaker 3: You would be the class clown at school.

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Speaker 2: I was a shy kid, especially early in primary school.

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Speaker 5: I was pretty shy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I remember walking around and not speaking to

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Speaker 2: and I was just like, how can I get involved

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Speaker 2: took me.

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Speaker 5: A while to warm up.

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Speaker 2: But once I warmed up and became comfortable, yes, then

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Speaker 2: the humor would flow from me. Especially in high school.

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Speaker 2: I started year ten, eleven and twelve started being pretty funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you get in a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, punching the head by a Christian brother once, who's sorry,

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Speaker 2: a Christian brother, so yeah, and it was a Christian brother.

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Speaker 5: Christian brother. You don't know what Christian brothers is.

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Speaker 3: No enlighteness.

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Speaker 2: So I went to most high school was at CBC

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Speaker 2: Christian Brothers College.

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Speaker 3: A Christian brother.

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Speaker 2: They're Catholic, but they're not priests, so they don't do

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Speaker 2: sworn to celibacy and they hang out with other men

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Speaker 2: and they hang out in aid and I think, look,

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a dying bre. It seems

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Speaker 2: like they're disciples. What's the difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are, they're discipled.

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Speaker 2: They're like they again, sworn to celibacy.

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Speaker 4: So that's the So that's no sex, right, So you

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Speaker 2: They wonted the dwindling, I know, and yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: some of them are nice, but some of them really angry.

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Speaker 2: And I think it might have been sexual frustration.

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Speaker 1: Did you do something that warranted the bunch of their head?

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Speaker 2: It was Brother O'Brien, and Brother O'Brien was He was

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Speaker 2: and he wasn't respected Brother Brian. I remember Brother Brian

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, talk about poking, and I wonder what.

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Speaker 3: And so did you lead the chant?

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Speaker 1: What was your how?

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Speaker 2: I was probably just laughing at the chat. I didn't know,

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Speaker 2: and it was I found it funny, but he didn't.

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Speaker 3: You had the rhythm drum. So make sure everyone's in there.

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Speaker 2: On my first stand up comedy gig, I Reckon was

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Speaker 2: in Brother Brian's year eleven religious class where I hadn't

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Speaker 2: of here we go, I've got something here, and that

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Speaker 2: class had to judge the speeches and I got ten

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Speaker 2: like winning an Academy award. And but Brother Brian failed

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Speaker 2: Because of that speech, I believe, and you know what,

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Speaker 2: but that's what propelled me to do comedy. But he

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Speaker 2: day was sitting there and made of mine. Moose was

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Speaker 2: That Moose ended up being a policeman. So and I

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Speaker 2: But so Moose was flicking spitballs, a little bits of

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Speaker 2: because I'd seen Moose doing it. And his brother Brian

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Speaker 2: just it was al mighty whack where he's king hit

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Speaker 4: His coward punched you in a classroom.

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Speaker 1: Brother Brian.

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Speaker 2: Brian coward punched me. And you know, And because I

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Speaker 3: God, he didn't blame news another person.

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Speaker 5: Getting counted moved me the big guy as well.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, did he lose his job?

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Speaker 5: No, because I didn't report.

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Speaker 2: It smart smart pitched, but he wouldn't have anyone back then,

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Speaker 2: the word capital, not capital, corporal punishment, capital punishment, corporal punishment.

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Speaker 2: So you were back then you were allowed to hit.

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Speaker 3: Kids, did you when you were in primary school? Were

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Speaker 3: they still using the cane?

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Speaker 1: There was Miss Hunter? Yeah, Miss Hunter, and she really

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Speaker 1: she was like eighty. She was in my sister's grade.

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Speaker 1: heard rumors that everyone was like, miss Hunter, if you

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Speaker 1: older generation. She was still caning kids, and that for

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Speaker 1: That was just like we'll just wait till she retired.

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Speaker 4: You can imagine when they were like, look, guys weren't

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, well fuck, what do we even do this?

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Speaker 1: This Hunter was like, well, I'm fucking leaving this protesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would have been a shocking moment for

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Speaker 2: this Christian Brother's college. The moment where you were allowed

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Speaker 1: It half over their art or it's a different time

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Speaker 1: at different times. What was your relationship like with your

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Speaker 1: mom and dad, Hughsy.

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Speaker 3: It was, Look, my mum was it was again they were.

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Speaker 2: It was a time where it was a big drinking

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Speaker 2: was a different time where look, dad drank a lot.

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Speaker 2: I've talked about this before, but he's yeah, so that

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Speaker 2: was that could be tricky when your dad is a

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Speaker 2: big drink as you know, Maddie. So so yeah, that.

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Speaker 1: Was as in your walking on eggshell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, because his mood would just go, he'd just

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Speaker 5: He ended up angry, you know.

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Speaker 2: So it was hard and so and it was he

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Speaker 2: was a shift work as well for many years. That's

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Speaker 2: not good for your mental health. So they're like starting

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Speaker 2: work at midnight or starting work at you know. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: there was alcohol and shift work. The combination made life

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Speaker 2: pretty tense in our house for a number of years. Really,

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Speaker 2: so uh and then I started I stopped drinking before

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Speaker 2: I turned twenty two, and so there's yeah, So do you.

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Speaker 1: Think growing up with the dad who had a drinking

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Speaker 1: problem played into the fact that you were aware of

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Speaker 1: what alcohol can do to people? And maybe you want

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Speaker 1: to stop?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't want to sound like I'm holy

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Speaker 2: Scabies are like little lice that live in your bedding

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Speaker 4: Then my parents got home skirvy from the sharehouse.

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Speaker 3: Feral cat for one of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your farah cats they follow you home or not.

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Speaker 5: But that was, oh God, that was that was a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So I came back and lived with my parents, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: To be honest. So that was you know, it was

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Speaker 2: Weren't drinking, I was like, why aren't you drinking. Why

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Speaker 2: I mean, I had some terrible driving experiences with drunks

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Speaker 3: It's in Perth.

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Speaker 2: I moved to person not long after I stopped drinking,

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Speaker 5: But I was so annoyed at him that I didn't

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Speaker 3: You did start this saying he's no longer with us, was.

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Speaker 4: He's done this before, he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: Crazy, that's a crazy time. Did he come off?

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Speaker 5: I remember once did you.

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Speaker 1: Get to a destination at his house? And thank you?

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Speaker 3: So we were living together time. It was terrible.

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Speaker 1: Ninety two is when you stopped drinking. Yes, do you

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Speaker 1: Which is it's weird that you met in the bar

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Speaker 3: When they say soul mate, that's exactly what that is.

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Speaker 3: But it's baby, that's what they do.

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Speaker 5: Fight together. Family anyway.

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Speaker 2: and so I got annoyed at him and I said

445
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 2: to her, we're going to go.

446
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,360
Speaker 5: So I drove him home, yelling at him.

447
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 2: And because Holly didn't come with, you didn't cock blocker.

448
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,679
Speaker 2: And she given she just started as a journalist at

449
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 2: one of the local newspapers and she'd given me her card,

450
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 2: but then she gave him her card.

451
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 3: That's confusing, and that was annoying to me.

452
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,439
Speaker 2: That was the moment I was, I don't like this,

453
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 2: so I don't want him to So I yelled him

454
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 2: as we as we drove, and I said, you should

455
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 2: have walked, mate.

456
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: She used to get on and broke broke.

457
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's only like a six k walk

458
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: that night and exactly exercise for anyway. So talk about

459
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 2: it on the radio on the Monday, and her friends

460
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 2: apparently were listening to the radio, and they rang her

461
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,919
Speaker 2: or texted her, and then she called in to the

462
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 2: radio station. Didn't go on hour, but she said to

463
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: our producer, I was, you know, I was just being

464
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: friendly to your friend, and I said, hang on, maybe

465
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm a chance. So I rang her that day and.

466
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 1: So your producers are husy. She's on the on the phone.

467
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: She wouldn't go on hour, but she said yeah, but

468
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 2: got the got the Yeah, she got the store. I

469
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 2: got the story that she was possibly keen. So that

470
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: gave me the impetus to ring her that day. And

471
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 2: then we went to Imax that night. Yeah, that night

472
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 2: had free tickets. So we saw some some three D thing.

473
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 2: It was like a space thing, was a short thing.

474
00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 2: It was only like forty five minutes.

475
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 3: Good, that's all you needed to be.

476
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we have these massive helmets on the three

477
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: D things there were you look beautiful to You're going

478
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: to space yourself or something. So yeah, but that was

479
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 2: the Yeah. So that night from that night were still

480
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: being together.

481
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: Did you ever ask her why she gave two cards away,

482
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: one to you, one to your friend.

483
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: She said she was just being nice. I don't know

484
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: if she was playing the field all night at the time,

485
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: so she was.

486
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: Just planning the seat.

487
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, She's just like walking around the bar. Gain.

488
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 5: So she was proud of her cards. You know, laminated cards.

489
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 3: Your first card is laminated.

490
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 4: Do you ever get laminated? My used car salesman cards

491
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 4: weren't laminated. They were just flimsy.

492
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,239
Speaker 2: Cardboard getting a card as a salesman somewhere. I think

493
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 2: I worked at Optus or something and I didn't make

494
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: any money.

495
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: But I had a card, you know. So yeah, I

496
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: don't have a card.

497
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're my winner?

498
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 4: My grandmother has all of my cards, all of my

499
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 4: dad's business cards in a folder, so we should find

500
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 4: that because I've had an array of different when I

501
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 4: was a Prince salesman.

502
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 3: She's loved that card.

503
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 5: Anyway you can Maddie hasn't had a card. If you

504
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 5: never had a card, No.

505
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: I did.

506
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: I did. I did. I had one in London and

507
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: it was just it's a shame because it was right

508
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: at the end of the card phase. So like it

509
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: was always like damn it was. Yeah, it was kind

510
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: of laughable to hand one out, but I was still

511
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: I was like, holy I was, I'd get I'd get

512
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 1: a coffee.

513
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 3: And you're just dishing about. Yeah.

514
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I never.

515
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: It was never handed out with much purpose.

516
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, I think I was. I never really

517
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 3: just game to my grandmother.

518
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't give a shout out to all salespeople here.

519
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: They work really hard. Salespeople worked so hard.

520
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: That is an absolute lie.

521
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 5: No.

522
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 2: If if you work on commission, they yeah, it's a

523
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 2: dog eat dog. It's every day. The scoreboard gets like

524
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: a race. You got to start again every day. Really

525
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 2: hard work. Salespeople well done with the backbone of I

526
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: shouldn't hang up on you as much as I do.

527
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: No.

528
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not talking about Nigerian sales people. They're they're fine,

529
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: they're great. I don't hang up on them. You know,

530
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: you wait for that silence on the call. Do you

531
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: answer the calls?

532
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't get any I'm not getting any of the

533
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: text from class. I'm not getting any of the sales

534
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: calls from Nigeria. I'm missing out.

535
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 5: You got a private number, some weird sort of thing

536
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 5: that he is.

537
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: One of those guys in the private.

538
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm oping I'm waiting for it.

539
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 5: He's like, no, I don't get his prank calls anymore.

540
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: So.

541
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: So I've had the same number for I reckon twenty

542
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: five years, maybe longer. And I used to, like on

543
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Saturday nights, I'd be like, answer the phone us, Yeah,

544
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 2: it's it's Jimmy.

545
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 3: I don't know you. Yeah you do?

546
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 5: No, I don't you do?

547
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: And that was enough for me. Now that they don't

548
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: call anymore, man, it's really sad.

549
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 3: I don't answer.

550
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 4: I'm part of the generation that it's scared to answer

551
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 4: their phone in case it's bad news.

552
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I don't need the bad news.

553
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, in case you end up giving you left kidney

554
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: to someone. Yeah, if you get I'm gonna rub.

555
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 4: I only really answer his calls my Lafe's cause that's

556
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: probably about it enough.

557
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: Do you remember who was yourself or Holly who spearheaded

558
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: the baby making process?

559
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 3: I was her?

560
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely she.

561
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: I wasn't never that.

562
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't like you know, someone, I wasn't yearning. I

563
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: didn't realize how to yearn. There was no yearn for

564
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: me for children. But she was straight away, like straight away.

565
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: She has been maternal forever basically, so not a not

566
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: a nightclub person. So I think there's two types of people,

567
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: maternal people and nightclub people. And she wasn't a nightclub person.

568
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: So she was like early on in a relationship. I

569
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: remember saying that I did a joke about her, but

570
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: she said, can we have kids in three years?

571
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is early on.

572
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, before you were married.

573
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, three years we're.

574
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: Going out like we've been probably out three months when

575
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: she said that, yeah, real early, and I'm like, I mean,

576
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: I said, no, I'm not sure about that, but we're

577
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: gonna have ficking ship tonight. So in the moment, yeah,

578
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: so yeah, but she was always really keen. So took

579
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 2: six years to have our first one was two thousand

580
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: and nine, so said, seven years before we first had

581
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: our son.

582
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: You made her so she wanted three?

583
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: You made a wait, do she wanted more than she

584
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: wanted more than three kids? She wanted Yeah, actually, yeah,

585
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: I made it make double that. You're right, good masks,

586
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: but yes, but she I thought you said three kids, but.

587
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 5: No you didn't. You were talking about earlier. I understand

588
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 5: what you both say.

589
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 3: You do that things like every time you mentioned I'm

590
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: going to double the years you got to wait.

591
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: But you know what, once we had them, I was,

592
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: you know, one year, as you guys know, once you

593
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: have one, you're like, you're in love. And I, yeah,

594
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: I was very happy to have three, and I actually

595
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: wanted to have more and she I thought she wanted

596
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: that five initially. But she's like, she said, if you

597
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: want to have more, if we're gonna have more kids.

598
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: You need to stop, you know, touring stand up comedy.

599
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: So I said, no, three's enough enough. So I gave

600
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: up more children because I love stand up comedy. I said,

601
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 2: that's my first love. I just love it more than

602
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: I don't love more than my children. Don't get me wrong,

603
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: but as much so you got three.

604
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: You have to you have to caveat that. We can

605
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: after record. You can be honest and tell.

606
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: Us, yeah, you got three. And I don't know if

607
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 4: you've heard, but our young man over here.

608
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: I know I have my wife and children passed on

609
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: their congratulations.

610
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

611
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah to me?

612
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: But do you have any tips for a third with Matt?

613
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 4: Matt's been debating for a while, and now it's happening.

614
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: Educate the man.

615
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 5: Three is a lot harder, yeahs, no doubt.

616
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 3: Three. Two is easy.

617
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 5: Two is easy.

618
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: One ah, three, But it's much more work than you

619
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: would have thought.

620
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: You know. I keet really conflicting messages.

621
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: I have.

622
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: Some people say, once you're in that that realm of

623
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: multiple kids, adding a third is no big deal, But

624
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: why was it? What's harder about it?

625
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

626
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: I think you're outnumbered and I'm not the first one

627
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: to say that. But yeah, and it's just just one each.

628
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: You can you've got two, and you've got two parents,

629
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: you can both. You know, it's manage one of them.

630
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: So the next one, right, Yeah, just hit me out

631
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: for a second. If it's two on two, did you

632
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: say sports analogy, let's go. I feel like this is

633
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: my Yeah. But once a team is then has like

634
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: if someone gets sin binned and the team is one

635
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: upper player, it's all over.

636
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but also let me flip that for you please.

637
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 4: Okay, sometimes the team that has the player sent off

638
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 4: stand up, that's true and actually win the game because.

639
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, I hear what you're saying. They're going

640
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: to there get extra motivation. We're not going to let

641
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: the fact that one of our players got cancust or

642
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: you know, sent off because they can cust someone else.

643
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: Not going to let that beat it. So yeah, so yeah,

644
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean you'll be fine. But it is a lot

645
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: of work, so don't think it's not and yeah it's not.

646
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's not like an extra thirty

647
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 2: three percent work.

648
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 5: It's more than that.

649
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: I think it's a fifty work.

650
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 5: Wow, even though it's one child, So you would.

651
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: Say your third was that was the hardest transition of

652
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: all I think so.

653
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

654
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

655
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: But at the time we had three kids. While where

656
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: we had the three kids, I was doing breakfast radio,

657
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: I was doing nightly TV show, I was doing a

658
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: weekend TV show, and I was doing stand up I

659
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: was touring stand up comedy.

660
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: So wow, crazy.

661
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: I probably wasn't home that much, to be honest, but

662
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was involved on the phone.

663
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: Do you remember their names? I do, No, I do jokes.

664
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 5: They can watch me on TV if they want to.

665
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: Three then and three now they're older.

666
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

667
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: Would you say three now is like glad you had

668
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: the three and it's much more fun.

669
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be awkward if you said, yeah.

670
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: I can say my hand on heart it is. Yeah,

671
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: we're glad they've got the three and and they're they're

672
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: they're good, They're they're self contained. I do we drive

673
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: them everywhere those That's one thing, because you know, the

674
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: show for service just never ends. And you know, I've

675
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: bought them bikes, which are good bikes, which they could ride,

676
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: and I'm happy for them to ride them, but they

677
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: just don't. They just get a lift. My son gets

678
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: a lift to the gym. I'm happy he's going to

679
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: the gym, don't get me wrong. But home from the

680
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: gym him just fucking just lifts all the time.

681
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: He could exercise to the gym, then gym and then

682
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: exercise homes.

683
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: He could, he could, he could ride his bike.

684
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: I've actually heard it's an issue this country is facing

685
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: that kids don't know how to ride bikes anymore.

686
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: My wife doesn't know how to ride a bike and

687
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: she's in her thirties.

688
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Well that's that's see, that's a rare kids aren't. Kids

689
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: aren't riding bikes anymore.

690
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: Because my parents are too worried.

691
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: Like back in look look at this is I mean,

692
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a like back in the seventies, parents

693
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: had more kids. So you don't have like five or

694
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: four at four was a minimum. Really, someone have seven

695
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: or eight, and you know what, they'd lose the odd kid,

696
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just like the old kid

697
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: would get hit by truck.

698
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: Just that was the seventies. Mate.

699
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: Then you go to a funeral and there was just

700
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: one less kid in that family. But they already had

701
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: a number of kids, so they had spares. Now people

702
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: aren't having spares?

703
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: You have true, very true to have one extra for contingency.

704
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two or three extra I got made of

705
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: mine who is one of eighteen children.

706
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: True story.

707
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: My grandfather was one of fourteen. Yeah, you're right, like

708
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: they lose a kid. He would lose a kid every year.

709
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: So yeah, they got they got extras, They got extras.

710
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: Eighteen's big and no no twins, no twins, dairy farmers

711
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: and yeah, and you know you were to Yeah.

712
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: They milk that cow. But also you've got to keep.

713
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: You need to keep your cows pregnant to get milk.

714
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: You know, milk only comes from cows that are continually pregnant.

715
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: So okay, so I don't know that if he had

716
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: the same wife.

717
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, eighteen is a big effort.

718
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: Was it a hard adjustment for yourself? Usual when you

719
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: stop doing breakfast radio?

720
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: No?

721
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: No, I look, I our latest radio show sort of

722
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: got halted, you know, towards the end last year.

723
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 5: And it was a shot for a moment.

724
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: How do they deliver that news.

725
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 5: Well, it's delivered it.

726
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: Quickly, I suppose, But yeah, so it's not really yeah

727
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: all right, yeah so yeah, but so but as it

728
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: was a shock for a moment, blow to the ego,

729
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: I would say, as well, but then quickly became joyful,

730
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: really joyful.

731
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: And what was joyful about it?

732
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: Just you know what anyone who does Breckegtrader or anyone

733
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: who has to get up really early would know. For me,

734
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm never been a great sleeper. So it's like every night,

735
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: Oh God, it's nine o'clock. I should be in bed.

736
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: It's nine thirty, I should be in bed. It's ten o'clock.

737
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 5: I'm in bed.

738
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: I'm not asleep. I should be asleep. It's ten thirty.

739
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm still not asleep.

740
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: So that four hours.

741
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I don't want to look at the clock,

742
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: and so I can't look at it, and so that's

743
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: that's stressful. I never really had a proper routine over

744
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: twenty years or more. Wow, So yeah, which is annoying.

745
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: And then kids come along as they and they're on

746
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: their own agendas, and when they're little they go to

747
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: bed earlier. It's great, but they get older and then

748
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: they're stayed up, and so you're going to bed and

749
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: everyone else is awake, and then you're like, then you're

750
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: not asleep anyway, you should have stayed awake, So yeah,

751
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: every night, and then when I do stand up comedy,

752
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: now I can just relax. I don't have to going

753
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: first how big on last? So yeah, I'm really happy.

754
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: Was it hard to slot into the morning routine because

755
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: you would have always been at radio when the kids

756
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: are getting ready.

757
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: For her school?

758
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: No, No, it's Holly, like, Dave, you're making this harder.

759
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: Look, she still does the lunches, which is I feel

760
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: bad about, but she's really leant into it. Like she's

761
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: a full time school teacher, but she does the lunches

762
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: before she goes to school. And so at the moment

763
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm getting up around seven, she probably gets up a

764
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: quarter to seven, but she's yeah, she's working hard. I'm involved,

765
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: and I always unpacked the dishwasher in the morning.

766
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, don't do that, I'll do that.

767
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: I drive the kids to school.

768
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 5: I am.

769
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: I don't sit down much anymore. I'm like, I will

770
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: tidy the house. And I've stopped getting angry at the

771
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: kids and the fact that they don't tie. You know,

772
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: kids should tidy. I actually know. I still get angry

773
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: at that, but I'm cleaning up a lot. So I'm

774
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: doing all around the house. My wife's very happy, which

775
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: is good. So we're happy.

776
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: Are you enjoying the transition from being busy, busy, busy

777
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: to now being more of a day Are you enjoying

778
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: that that process?

779
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: Look, I really enjoy I do enjoy being with the kids.

780
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: And like my son, for instance, his basketball, he plays

781
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: Red Basketball, and I'm drive him to the games most times.

782
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a bit more stand up comedy happening.

783
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: Now I'm not I do it quite as much, but

784
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm still mainly there. So yeah, I love that sort

785
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: of that relationship were having my son and he's basketball,

786
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: so he's been playing red basketball since under twelve, I think, so,

787
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: which is a Friday night and it's it's right, you

788
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: might have to drive up to an hour and a

789
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: half on a Friday night to get to some game

790
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere basically, so.

791
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: That's annoying, isn't it.

792
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: So the two of us, so I've got a real

793
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: Friday night ritual and we get along, you know we.

794
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: I mean I will yell at him and he'll yell

795
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: back at me. So like we're like I often score basketball.

796
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm scoring. And then I think, if he's not switched out.

797
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: I'll switched and I'll go switch on mate, you know,

798
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: and he will yell at me. I am certainly you're not.

799
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: You haven't watched it, you haven't scored yet.

800
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: Mate.

801
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: You're six foot six?

802
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: What are you doing?

803
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 2: Six six foot six? How old is he?

804
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 5: He turned sixteen the other day.

805
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: Goodness, I'm getting a lot of this like when we're

806
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: in like I would wear the dentist two days ago,

807
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: the three kids at the dentist, they're like, you know,

808
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: and good on them. So I picked up from school

809
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: early to taking the dentist and get it done. And

810
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: their teeth are great, by the way, And which is

811
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: what they don't do is they don't drink soft drinks.

812
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: And I drank soft drink all through and I wasn't

813
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: a rich kid, but we drank soft drink. I drank

814
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: and my teeth and the danist said, they don't want

815
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 2: to get teeth like yours.

816
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god.

817
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: And then because he six with six, she goes, where

818
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: do you get his height from?

819
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 5: You know, well that's hurtful.

820
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: And then his mum's seven foot tall.

821
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: When she goes, I suppose your wife's tall, but you're

822
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: not even that tall. She's like five eight. Maybe, yeah,

823
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: it's a five eight. She's not in the w NBA,

824
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: and she's she's not that tall, so and then.

825
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: Is a pleasant height and people wondering.

826
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: In front of my son, who's like his mouth open

827
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: because she said it must have been the milkman. Why

828
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: would you say that, you know, it's kind of fun

829
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: She's basically saying that to my son in the room.

830
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: She's saying, he's not your dad, your mum rooted someone else.

831
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Maybe she was trying to be funny, but at least

832
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: it's easy to break up with a dentist because you

833
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: don't see him that much. If it was a hairdresser,

834
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: it would be way way I know, you know what.

835
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: And at the end of it, and I do, I

836
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: think she was trying to be funny, but but it

837
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: was still a bit hurtful. But at the end of

838
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: the day, the kids teeth are good, so no cavity

839
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: is at all at all. Yeah, I know, it's I'm

840
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: that shocked.

841
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: That is shocked. That is a rare Well, there's no sugar,

842
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: no sugar soft drinks. It is quite a fl I'm

843
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: going I touch wood. I've never had a cavity myself and.

844
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: In your life.

845
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: Never never, not once me.

846
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I think I've had. Remember I've got a

847
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: tooth out last year.

848
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I've had. I'm missing you know what I'm missing?

849
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: Ten teeth?

850
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: Okay, well I couldn't tell.

851
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you probably can, but it's I've had

852
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: one replace because it was too close to the front

853
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: and made me look too you know, like this guy's

854
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: you know, he's sleeping rough. So I got one replaced.

855
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've I had my teeth over the year.

856
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: I had some shocking times in the dentist the the

857
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: back in the in the seventies and eighties, there wasn't

858
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: much anesthetic. I remember getting a getting a root canal,

859
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: you know where they you know, you wouldn't know what

860
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: a recon both of you don't root canal is. They

861
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: take the whole route out of it to they dig

862
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: it out. And the anesthetic hadn't worked on me, and

863
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm there's a as a dentist digging a root out

864
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: of my mouth and it was either infected or the

865
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: antithety hadn't worked. It was it was like Guantanamo Bay stuff.

866
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: You're like screaming, I'm like, what the fuck is.

867
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: Going on here? This is the worst pain in my life.

868
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: It's exactly where the saying comes from. It's like pulling teeth,

869
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: that's exactly it.

870
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sometimes pulling teeth where to get them out

871
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: is so much work, Like three of them trying to

872
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 2: get the two thousand.

873
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: I know.

874
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 5: It was like I'm born in the seventeen hundred.

875
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 4: And they would have also up soldier to a root

876
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: canal because we had a joke where dentist is just

877
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: mouth salesman when you go in for a check up

878
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, you need the most expensive thing

879
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: we have, which is a root canal.

880
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure your teeth were fine. Actually, they just

881
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: saw you come in and go we'll get this guy.

882
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: We'llet at least one out.

883
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it was they certainly got announced blood

884
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 5: out terrible.

885
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: We we get a lot of mixed feedback.

886
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

887
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: With the question of should you give your kids pocket money? Yeah,

888
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: I have always thought that it's a good idea. It

889
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: allows them to understand the value of money. What's your

890
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: stance on that? To your kids? Do they get an allowance?

891
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: Do they have to do chores? How does that work?

892
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: We've been so slack with that, to be honest, so

893
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: they really never had to do chores. We've tried to

894
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: institute it and it didn't work. We had like a

895
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: thing up on the you know, like a little spreadsheet

896
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: up on the fridge at some point, but it hasn't worked.

897
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: So they don't really get pocket money, no, but they

898
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: just want for nothing, you know what I mean. My

899
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: son especially, we're just he just texts me can I

900
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: get a nice tea? And I have to put money

901
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 2: in his account. Like he's at a seven eleven saying

902
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: I want to get a nice.

903
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: Tea six or six?

904
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so can you put some money in my account?

905
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: So I go to my banking app and put money

906
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: in his account so I can buy a nice tea.

907
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 5: And that happens a lot.

908
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: So he but he's got to get a job.

909
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: I've decided. He was basketball coaching, so coaching younger teams,

910
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: and he was doing really well. But he's quit that

911
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: this year too, you know, focus on his studies.

912
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: So I'd rather be working.

913
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: Have you ever thought when he's like, hey, can I

914
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: get a nice tea? It's like you promised to clean

915
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 4: your room and you get I.

916
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 5: Know, I should have done that.

917
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: I never have so, but he's put applications in for jobs,

918
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: but nothing's come through. I'm like, what are you writing

919
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 2: on these applications? How can you not get a job

920
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: at McDonald's when your bloody deadbeat mates working there.

921
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 5: You know what's he got that you don't have.

922
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: I think he's got the enthusiasm and he doesn't have

923
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: a parent who's putting money in his account every five minutes. Yeah, yeah,

924
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: cut off the supply maybe, yeah, I know, I've got.

925
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 5: To do it.

926
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: Once the iced tea runs out, he'll be there.

927
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: I don't have icy money anymore. Hughes.

928
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: You are a man who likes a holiday.

929
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 3: Yes.

930
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: Recently you were on a trip to Hawaii. Yes, but

931
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: it didn't go to plan.

932
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: No.

933
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: I look, I have been I injured my shoulder about

934
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: it's about fifteen sixteen months ago now, and it was

935
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 2: like dessiccated. And it was that through radio, no surfing.

936
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: It was on news eve. So I'm surfing with my family.

937
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: It was a surf lesson and my own board took

938
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: away without me and just it cow punched me. My

939
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 2: own board hit me from behind and it took my shoulder.

940
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: It dissipated my shoulder from behind, which is apparently more

941
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 2: painful than if it goes backwards. If it goes forwards,

942
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: apparently it's more painful. It was the most painful experience

943
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: of my life. And I'm just I was on the

944
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: beach in writhing in agony for like two hours. It

945
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: was at the Gold Coast, so and they didn't they

946
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: don't have green whistles at the Gold Coast. So the

947
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 2: surf life savers don't you know, the green whistle were

948
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: stuck on it.

949
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 3: They just don't have them. They're not letting.

950
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: This guy's young bloke said, oh, the government took them

951
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: office because we misused them. So apparently they were like

952
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: partying with the green whistles that this club is in

953
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: you anyway. So I was so painful and I eventually

954
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: got the greensle when I ended up, I've done a

955
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: whole comedy routine about which is, you know, everything becomes

956
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: a comedy for me. But basically it was it was

957
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: I got end, which is a like heroin inside a

958
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: pill basically, and that's the only get one script of that,

959
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: because yeah, it's productive. And then I ended up on

960
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: medicinal marijuana for the pain after my shoulder reconstruction, and

961
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: the gummies.

962
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 5: The gummies.

963
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: But on Honolulu, I said to my wife on the flight,

964
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: I said, over to Honolulu, we're going to be their

965
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: tender beause I didn't bring any gummies with me, thinking

966
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: that she would go, good on you, you don't need gummies.

967
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: But she didn't say that. She said, why do you

968
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: tell me that? I said, I thought it was interesting.

969
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: She said how often you're having them? I said not

970
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: very often, and she said, well, it sounds like you are.

971
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: I said, no, I'm not.

972
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: This is actually rehab for me.

973
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, anyway, it was a bit of information,

974
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: and I immediately regretted having told her that. But four

975
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: days into the trip, where we were past the vape

976
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: shop and I was hooked on vaping for a while,

977
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: which happens. But I'm off that that is hard. Nickodine

978
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: is the hardest thing to get off, harder than anything else.

979
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: And I've given up a lot of stuff.

980
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. One day I just quit smoking.

981
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: Did you Yeah, and never had back a day.

982
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 3: Man, you know, I do.

983
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: I do wish like I made of mine said to me,

984
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: it's a shame that you will never talk to me

985
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: you will never experience the joy of a morning coffee

986
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: and a cigarette. And I sometimes I wish I would

987
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: have that and enjoy it. I tried to smoke, but you.

988
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: Don't need any more aids to help you ship trusting.

989
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 2: It does help, But yeah, the nicotine is it's really good. Yeah,

990
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: but it's string good though, because then you need it

991
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: every five minutes, and that really takes over your life.

992
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: Vaping took over my life. I couldn't. I'd be missing,

993
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, moments in basketball games because I was in

994
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: the you know, of my children, because I was in

995
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: the he went on the bench like disabled. I was

996
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: in the disabled toilets vaping. You know, I think, what

997
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: am I doing. I'm in my fifties and I mean

998
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: a disabled toilet. It's some far flung basketball stadium sucking

999
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: on a vape, you know.

1000
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 5: And I appealed to be the only one in this

1001
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 5: whole bloody you know.

1002
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: Your son probably enjoyed the break though, ye God.

1003
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: Anyway, we went past the vape shop and they we

1004
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: had a chat about me not vaping anymore, and I

1005
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: can never vape again. I can had that conversation with

1006
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: a guy who sells vape as we walked past with

1007
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: my family. Yeah. So, but I saw the sign that

1008
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: said you don't see gummies on the sign or something,

1009
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: and I thought, oh god, they sell gummies there in Honolulu.

1010
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: I didn't know it was legal.

1011
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: And so the family went to the beach and I said,

1012
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go find somewhere to watch the footy tonight,

1013
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: and I'll see you at the beach. And I went

1014
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 2: back to the gummy shop on the way to find

1015
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: a bar to watch the footy, and I bought two barrels.

1016
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: I bought one barrel. Actually it was thirty bucks. That's

1017
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: outstand was it seemed to be like two hundred in there,

1018
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: and I'm like this, like must.

1019
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: Be so weak. I thought that money. I had two straight.

1020
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: Away and it's like midday in Honolulu, and then nothing

1021
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: happened for ten minutes. So I just had I had look,

1022
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: I had one more. I almost had two more. I

1023
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: had one more, but then the three of them in

1024
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: another five minutes.

1025
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: Just I couldn't see.

1026
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: I was like, I was so munch I was, I

1027
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: was so paranoid. I was so I couldn't I was

1028
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: so confused. And I'm going to Honolulu. My family's at

1029
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 2: the beach, and I eventually got back to the hotel.

1030
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: Then it took a long time. I just didn't know

1031
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: where I was. I've got my hotel room, and I'm like,

1032
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 2: I can go to sleep now. But then I realized

1033
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: at the midday, and and that's going to be weird.

1034
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: Were you doing the thing where you're like, why am

1035
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: I breathing so loud? How do I breathe? And you're

1036
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 3: like you can't figure out the room properly.

1037
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 5: I was on another planet.

1038
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I've got to get to the beach

1039
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: because my wife can't know.

1040
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 3: I lied.

1041
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: I lied to it, and I lied and said I

1042
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: was going to find the bar, but I really wanted

1043
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: to go to the gummy shop. You got to come close,

1044
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: and he's already sussed on me, and so I said,

1045
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: I've got to find the beach. So I put the

1046
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: swimmers on and I tried to find the beach and

1047
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: that took ages as well, even though it was right

1048
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: next to the hotel. And I eventually I'm ringing my wife,

1049
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: going where are you? And she was like where you are?

1050
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 5: You're like three.

1051
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: And I've tried to extra. I've got to actra because

1052
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: you can't know I've lied to her. And then I

1053
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: swear to god, she's looked at me and she goes

1054
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: She said to me, why are you wearing my shorts?

1055
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 5: And I had the.

1056
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: Most ridiculous shorts sign but I couldn't even work out

1057
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: why I had them on.

1058
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: And then I was just like, I don't know. And

1059
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: then the kids were out.

1060
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: There was really calm at why a key beach It wasn't,

1061
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: but in my head there was.

1062
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 5: A tsunami coming.

1063
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: And so I've ran out and my son again, he's

1064
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: six ft six, he might have been six foot four.

1065
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: Then he's grown a bit lately. But and I'm dragging

1066
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: him in on a float. He's on a floating. He's like,

1067
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: just like he's on a calm water on a floating

1068
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: and I'm dragging him in because what are you doing?

1069
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: I said, I'm bringing you to safety and we're in

1070
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: like we're in like waste deep water and he's like,

1071
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: what's wrong with you?

1072
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 5: And nothing?

1073
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: Just don't just don't go back out there. Apparently didn't

1074
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 2: have any idea. They didn't know that I was stoning.

1075
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: My wife knew, and she's like, you're an idiot, And

1076
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: I went back to hotel. Then I said I'm stoned,

1077
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: and she said.

1078
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: I know, I know you wear my underpants as well.

1079
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: I didn't get it. I went back went to bed

1080
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 2: and I didn't get up for the footy that night.

1081
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: So I bet my son's like, why is't Dad getting

1082
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: up towards the footy?

1083
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 5: He loves the footy? No, yea was that was?

1084
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 3: That was bad?

1085
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: So anyway, she's a patient woman.

1086
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 3: What did you do with the rest of the gummies?

1087
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: You know? I sat there and I'm like, I can't

1088
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: have any more, and so I didn't have any more

1089
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: on the trip, and I put them.

1090
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: In the bin. I did traumatize.

1091
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: I put them in the bin. No, I've been back

1092
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: on him since.

1093
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong.

1094
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: I do have to give you a very big compliment,

1095
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: CUsing because after the jungle top five, I think it

1096
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: was top five, we all staid at a lodge.

1097
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: Now it was top eight mate. I was eight down,

1098
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: I honestly because you obviously top three, but I was.

1099
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: I was when we was leaving the jungle because I

1100
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: got evicted and I was shocked. I got a victored.

1101
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: I thought me, Maddie thought I was going to win. Well,

1102
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: he told me that win.

1103
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to win anyway.

1104
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: So whatever, I got evicted and I was annoyed, but

1105
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: I thought it was all rigged and that storyboarded and

1106
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 2: I would be in the final three whatever.

1107
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 3: But that wasn't the case.

1108
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 2: And as I'm coming out, I'm like, well, at least

1109
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: my wife and family won't have to come over, because

1110
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: as Maddie knows, it was a stress for busy people.

1111
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: My wife had started her school year and you know,

1112
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: a trip to Africa is not as valuable for some

1113
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: people as his for others.

1114
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 5: Whatever. That's the way.

1115
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: I only ended up in South Africa because it was like, hey, yeah,

1116
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 4: can you help me get South Africa with these two kids?

1117
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: And I was like yeah, I know.

1118
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: And then my wife's like, you don't go to South

1119
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 4: Africa made for like two days.

1120
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: So yeah, with three kids, it's a stress to get

1121
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: over there. So so when I'm coming out, so or

1122
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: at least my wife I had to come over, and

1123
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: they producer about that and I said, what, she's there

1124
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: on the plane now.

1125
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 5: I was like, oh shit, So they hadn't.

1126
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: Landed in Perth like Melbourne Perth Joe Berg and I said,

1127
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: get it. I've got to get her on the phone

1128
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: because she might want to turn around. Because anyway, my

1129
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: daughters wanted to come, but my son wanted to go

1130
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: back and plays red basketball. He didn't care about. But anyway,

1131
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: they came over. That was eight So for whatever reason,

1132
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: they we had eight families. That was actually lovely in

1133
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: the little where we were staying in the lotch. It

1134
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: was a beauty of your family and all the other families.

1135
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: It was great, and you were there toly, so you

1136
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: didn't get to enjoy it.

1137
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Didn't get to enjoy it. But I do remember one

1138
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: standout for me was the fact that everyone's there with

1139
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: their kids, and your kids and teenagers are little assholes

1140
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: most of the time. Like there's a little cafe down

1141
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: the road where I get a coffee from, and it's

1142
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: next to a school, and it's sometimes in the afternoon's

1143
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: full of school kids.

1144
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: They tease him.

1145
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they suck with your kids, Like, I don't know,

1146
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: if they were just being on their absolute best behavior,

1147
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: they would look you in the eye, say good morning,

1148
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: ask you what are you up to today. They'd have

1149
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: a conversation. Yeah, And you don't often get that from

1150
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: teenage kids. So I got to say, well done.

1151
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, credit to my wife more than me obviously, but

1152
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: yeah they are, yeah, they're they're good and they and

1153
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: they'll play with the little kids as well. So you're yeah,

1154
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: they love playing with your daughters and yeah, I got

1155
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: two daughters who are bloody.

1156
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're good kids. And my son's good as well.

1157
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1158
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 1: I also have to just say, as well, compliment.

1159
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: For the kids.

1160
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: But at the airport, you really stitched me up. Yeah,

1161
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: big time.

1162
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: I haven't heard this well.

1163
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: I was trying to get a business upgrade. Oh yeah, okay,

1164
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: you do love it business.

1165
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: I love it.

1166
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: It's his Achilles eight kilos in the jungle.

1167
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: We really lost a friendship over it because when we

1168
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: went to Vegas and there's only one seat and I'm like, oh,

1169
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: I don't worry, He's like, sorry.

1170
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: You're painting me in.

1171
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 5: He wanted to leave you for that fourteen hours or

1172
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 5: whatever it is.

1173
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And so I was trying to get an upgrade.

1174
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Couldn't happen. We're at joe Berg Airport, Johannesburg with those

1175
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: playing at home, and I was on the phone to

1176
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: the flight agent and he was trying hard to get

1177
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: me an upgrade. It wasn't going to happen. And as

1178
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: I was on the phone, like pleading desperate for an upgrade,

1179
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: Laura was talking to you, and I didn't know. The

1180
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: conversation was along the lines of you had said to Laura,

1181
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: there is no way on earth I'm going to sit

1182
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: in that business seat for a second. It's going to

1183
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: go to my wife. Yeah, okay. And then after that conversation,

1184
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: I then hang up the phone. I go to Laura

1185
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: and I say, there's been no business class upgrade. I'm

1186
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: really sorry. You're going to be in premium. Also didn't

1187
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: know that she was pregnant at the time. Yeah, right,

1188
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: And so when I walked her to her seat in premium,

1189
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: she was. It was We had a big argument. Yeah,

1190
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: a big argument.

1191
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know it wasn't just you, ors

1192
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: that the others as well. I guilted Zach into it

1193
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: as well, and I think Sam Thriday as well. So yeah,

1194
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: so Zach to in Sam Friday. You know, throw who

1195
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: are just going to go and business and leave their

1196
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: partners and kids in economy. But you know what, I

1197
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: luckily there was some luck. We were able to get

1198
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: pretty cheap business upgrades. For everyone, and they did as well.

1199
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: So all those guys paid for their partners to be

1200
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: in business worth making, honestly. And I'm and my wife's

1201
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: a mart and she would have let me go in business. Honestly,

1202
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: she would have let me.

1203
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 5: But I knew I would. It would have been in

1204
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 5: the back of it was something.

1205
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: There's points that you get deducted, and they would have

1206
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: been deducted forever.

1207
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 4: I would I would have just sat in the business

1208
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: class seat and not spoken to them the whole time.

1209
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 5: No, I can't, No, I'm I'm playing a long game, man.

1210
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for that.

1211
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 4: It was very contentious when he got back and that

1212
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 4: story and then people piling.

1213
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: Still gon attack now, and when Laura announced that she

1214
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: was pregnant, that everyone's now coming back for a second attack,

1215
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: being like.

1216
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: And she was, you know, I appreciate you doing that.

1217
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: I appreciate you being honest in that way. And you know,

1218
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, what's great content and people love to have

1219
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: their opinion, so well, good on you for being honest

1220
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: enough to say that you're a selfish asshole.

1221
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: Excuse me. One final question that we always end on

1222
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: for the podcast episodes, When your three children are old

1223
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: enough to fly the nest. They're no longer living with you.

1224
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: What is the one thing you would want them to

1225
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: remember about the house they grew up in.

1226
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 3: That.

1227
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm big on don't take life seriously. I'm big on

1228
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: laugh your way through life. So that's my don't and

1229
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: I say to them all the time, which I read,

1230
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: but I believe it to be true. There's been studies

1231
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: done and the people who think about themselves the least

1232
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: of the happiest people. So stop thinking about yourself and

1233
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: just and I say this almost every day I'm dram

1234
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: to school. Look at the sun. And I sit in

1235
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: the jungle as well. Look at the sun. We're on

1236
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: a planet.

1237
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: This is weird.

1238
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: The chances of us ever being here are so astronomical.

1239
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 5: Just you know, be happy you're alive.

1240
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1241
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: I really want them just to go through life with

1242
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: that attitude.

1243
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 3: So yeah, very good.

1244
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: I love Ituse It's been an absolute pleasure. Lovely to

1245
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: see you again.

1246
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: Mate.

1247
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: We've got to keep in touch, all right. So you

1248
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: went to the Grand Prix, you didn't You didn't ring me?

1249
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 5: Man, what do you ring me? He's going to Grand Prix?

1250
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: You know? Handing hours again to catch up with him

1251
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: to down there.

1252
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: I was meant to catch up with him.

1253
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: Down there, and he reads me the night before and

1254
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: he goes.

1255
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 3: I'm going home.

1256
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: You can say what about me.

1257
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 3: I've come down like you. I had a few people, but.

1258
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm really gonna I'll get up and.

1259
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: Laura and the girls and then hugh'sy loved to meet you.

1260
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: Thank you for coming in. It's your pleasure. It's been

1261
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 3: a lot of fun.

1262
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: Enjoy.

1263
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1264
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: Two Doting Dads. Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

1265
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.

1266
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 4: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

1267
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 4: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Straight

1268
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 4: Island of people's today