WEBVTT - MINI: The Best Baddies

0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Christian Christian O'Connell Christian O'Connell's show podcast.

0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.760
<v Speaker 2>We're doing this morning's Mount Rushmore.

0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:09.840
<v Speaker 3>This is a weird one.

0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:12.760
<v Speaker 1>It has to be chocolate ripple cake.

0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Your last ward. David's plays you wrong, mate?

0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Can you go past heavy dough? I'm here to true so.

0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Definitely there is only one, the Mighty Kingston.

0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.479
<v Speaker 2>My favorite bit of that is I'm here to defend

0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:31.600
<v Speaker 2>true sourdough, not sour dough, true true South Ado. Hi,

0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:36.960
<v Speaker 2>it's Tiper your big strong opinions on this week's Mount Rushmore.

0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.440
<v Speaker 2>There's only room for four, so make a strong case.

0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.120
<v Speaker 2>This week we turn our attentions to movie baddies. Seventy

0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:44.519
<v Speaker 2>great villains and baddies in.

0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Movies that we've loved over the years.

0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.440
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have a great movie, you need the classic

0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.720
<v Speaker 2>story of good and bad and who is on the

0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:51.880
<v Speaker 2>side of bad.

0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Having an interviewed a lot of.

0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Actors over the years, I've always loved asking in a movie,

0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:57.880
<v Speaker 2>would they rather play a GOODI or Baddy?

0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.040
<v Speaker 1>It's always Baddy.

0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:03.520
<v Speaker 2>You longer opinions about the great baddies who have scared us,

0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.080
<v Speaker 2>who are so evil.

0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Who actually hate them at times don't you.

0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.600
<v Speaker 2>You really are, But there have been some amazing performances

0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.119
<v Speaker 2>from Actus and movie baddies, so they can only be four.

0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.480
<v Speaker 2>So who has to be on a mount rushmore of

0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:15.480
<v Speaker 2>movie baddies?

0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:15.959
<v Speaker 1>Who is it for?

0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.160
<v Speaker 2>You? Give us a call this morning, make your case

0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.320
<v Speaker 2>nine four one four one four three Jack?

0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Who are you going to be going for?

0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, we were talking about Batman just earlier. Heath Ledger's

0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.000
<v Speaker 3>joker is right up there.

0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Why soul serious? What a performance? Brilliant?

0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.640
<v Speaker 3>He was fantastic. I mean, are we going for the

0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:39.760
<v Speaker 3>scariest or most lunatic? I mean all of that? Yeah,

0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.840
<v Speaker 3>and that's what he was. A complete madman. I wouldn't

0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.600
<v Speaker 3>want to come up against him any day of the week.

0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Now. He looked terrifying as well.

0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.880
<v Speaker 2>The makeup that was all kind of weird than just

0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.000
<v Speaker 2>in those in that movie as well. When he's not

0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.200
<v Speaker 2>in scenes, you're you're just twitching about where is he?

0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:55.440
<v Speaker 1>What's he up to? Yeah?

0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.960
<v Speaker 2>And Christian BeO is amazing the whole Dark Knight trilogy.

0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Christian Bow is an incredible act. Time You've never seen

0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Christian Bell in a bad movie just becomes these characters

0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and you know he transforms his bodies and his accents.

0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't believe he's a British guy, but he's a great. However,

0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, Christian BeO, I'm sure would admit he is

0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.840
<v Speaker 2>blown off the screen by the charisma, the evil charisma

0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.040
<v Speaker 2>of Heath Ledger's amazing performance as the Joker.

0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:20.840
<v Speaker 4>When you think of the Dark Knight, you think a Hitler.

0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not to.

0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.679
<v Speaker 3>Take anything away from Jack Jaquin Phoenix's call Jack.

0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Jack Phoenix, home Mate Phoenix, Joe Phoenix, I love him.

0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:34.799
<v Speaker 3>He would be my next best joker. Then Jared Lado

0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.720
<v Speaker 3>in Suicide Sure.

0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Go through a separate mount rushmore just jokers now a.

0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Lot over the years there, and then Jack Nicholson last.

0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he was more comical comedy joker. Yeah, But Heath

0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Ledgers Joker, I think that has to go up there.

0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Not just I think in movie history one the greatest

0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.359
<v Speaker 2>performances from an actor ever. It's incredible and so powerful.

0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.520
<v Speaker 2>But in terms of baddies, he is terrifying and that

0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.600
<v Speaker 2>very good Patsy was it for you?

0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.240
<v Speaker 4>It's got to be Hannibal Lecter, doesn't it. From Silence

0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:04.280
<v Speaker 4>to the Lambs, he's got to be.

0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Up there and Hannibal Letter is your spirit animal.

0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:10.280
<v Speaker 4>To so many lines from that I ate his liver

0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:11.800
<v Speaker 4>with some father beans.

0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:13.040
<v Speaker 3>What's he for?

0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.079
<v Speaker 4>I thought that was you playing it from the original movie.

0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Now, I thought I'd find off the clip by accident.

0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Then what a powerful accent there.

0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.280
<v Speaker 2>You can't spot the difference between what parts he just

0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.079
<v Speaker 2>reenacted and from the actual movie. Let's play it now.

0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.840
<v Speaker 2>The census taker once tried to test me. I ate

0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:36.160
<v Speaker 2>his lever with some father beans and a nice candy.

0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.800
<v Speaker 4>Movie terrified me that movie.

0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Because like, who's the worst bad guy in that? Because

0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.200
<v Speaker 3>the Buffalo Bill guy is just as bad.

0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.120
<v Speaker 1>You see the guy with that down that pits. Is

0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.680
<v Speaker 1>he passed the lotion? Yes he is.

0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Buffero Bill is actually more terrifying. But Anti Hopkins says,

0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Hannibal Letter is a terrifying Baddy Patsy. And what is

0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.120
<v Speaker 2>the last scene of the movie where he's chilling just

0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:05.640
<v Speaker 2>on the phone, you know what he calls her?

0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Is he at the airport and he's somewhere else? Isn't

0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:08.560
<v Speaker 1>he on.

0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.440
<v Speaker 2>In the white suit in the Panama hand? He's about

0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.360
<v Speaker 2>to kill and eat somebody else, isn't he? So yeah,

0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I think you make a strong case there, Patsy.

0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:24.200
<v Speaker 1>For me, it has to be this guy, I am

0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.800
<v Speaker 1>your father to me.

0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.360
<v Speaker 2>As a kid, I've been a big fan of Star

0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Wars movies. I found him terrifying. It was everything about him.

0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.080
<v Speaker 2>He was just Darth Vader was just huge in so

0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.320
<v Speaker 2>many ways, not just as evilness, but he just feels

0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:38.960
<v Speaker 2>he was this big.

0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:39.760
<v Speaker 3>He was this.

0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Huge, the cloak, the helmet, and way ahead of COVID.

0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.560
<v Speaker 1>He had that mask. No COVID for old Darthy boy.

0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.120
<v Speaker 2>The whole breathing and the even when he wasn't talking

0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.840
<v Speaker 2>or choking out his henchmen or villains and stuff like that.

0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:56.640
<v Speaker 1>He was incredible.

0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.440
<v Speaker 2>And then there's the fact that he goaded his son

0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Luke into a lightsaber jewel and chopped off his own

0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:05.520
<v Speaker 2>son's hands.

0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.159
<v Speaker 1>That's how evil he was a father.

0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.240
<v Speaker 4>You guys are parents, You would never do that.

0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to think not, but you can never.

0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.799
<v Speaker 3>You know, home schooling's getting a bit annoying.

0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.560
<v Speaker 2>So for me, it has to be Darth Vader. I

0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.520
<v Speaker 2>was terrified and amazed and equal measures as a kid

0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:23.279
<v Speaker 2>by Darth Vader.

0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was an incredible performance.

0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:30.680
<v Speaker 2>And many many years ago I was doing something and

0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.839
<v Speaker 2>I managed to actually go round to the actor that

0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.040
<v Speaker 2>is inside. Dave Prowse was the guy who was Darth

0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Vader the originally he was inside there. But Dave Prowse

0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.040
<v Speaker 2>is a big, big British guy who was a bodybuilder

0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and he got Christopher Reeve in shape for Superman. He's

0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.120
<v Speaker 2>a massive guy, and that's why George luc was like,

0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.800
<v Speaker 2>that's dark Fader, that guy would put him in the outfit.

0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Dave didn't know. Dave is from the West Country in England.

0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.480
<v Speaker 2>What you need to understand that is it's a lot

0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.600
<v Speaker 2>of farmers down that way and they speak a bit

0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.719
<v Speaker 2>late there. You know, it's not gonna be terrifying, Luke,

0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I am your father, that kind of They sound like bumpkins.

0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Dave didn't know, so he does the films all the

0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.880
<v Speaker 2>bits right, he doesn't. It takes his family to the

0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.400
<v Speaker 2>premiere of what's about to become the biggest movie in

0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.280
<v Speaker 2>the world and they see dar Vader and then they

0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.400
<v Speaker 2>hear and see another voice and it's not him. Jes

0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Lucas had forgotten, you know, when they just would tell

0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Dave later on that obviously he's not gonna be his

0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.799
<v Speaker 2>bumpkin voice as Darth Vader. We'll get James L. Jones

0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.240
<v Speaker 2>in post production. Here be Darth Vader. But no one

0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.600
<v Speaker 2>ever told. So he did all the lines in that

0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:32.560
<v Speaker 2>bloody great hell.

0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:33.279
<v Speaker 4>That's amazed.

0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.360
<v Speaker 3>You would think on set when he's going like, oh,

0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:36.760
<v Speaker 3>you want me to take that line again?

0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:38.920
<v Speaker 1>About that?

0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Dave, you have told Jane you're going to do it today,

0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.640
<v Speaker 2>weren't you in get him up there, he gets his taxi,

0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then Dave still has there.

0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.880
<v Speaker 1>But they made two original Dark Vader. He still has them.

0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.320
<v Speaker 2>And I went around his house and he showed me them.

0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I they're huge, really really heavy, and he said that,

0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you have home and contents insurance, yeah,

0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.480
<v Speaker 2>to put down if there's a certain I think there's

0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.680
<v Speaker 2>a limit. Isn't that of what they cover? Five or

0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.159
<v Speaker 2>ten thousand dollars? Because he's got the original Darth Vader helmet,

0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.880
<v Speaker 2>he had to apply for an extra kind of limit

0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.840
<v Speaker 2>on his Home and Contents insurance. And you know you

0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.560
<v Speaker 2>do it all over the phone, don't you. And it's

0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.040
<v Speaker 2>just someone in the call center just going through. You're

0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.280
<v Speaker 2>just a name on it is going.

0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.600
<v Speaker 4>To you estimate like the plus your car.

0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.840
<v Speaker 2>How would you describe this, and he had to say, wow,

0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.640
<v Speaker 2>it's a large, kind of like this is a bit

0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like a Darth Vader helmet. And the pus went, oh,

0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.600
<v Speaker 2>it's not the actual one, as he went, yes it is. Yeah,

0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.640
<v Speaker 2>it's the Dark Fader helmet. So it's also a fully

0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:33.000
<v Speaker 2>insurance

0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Christian O'Connell Show podcast