1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 1: Christian Christian O'Connell Christian O'Connell's show podcast. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: We're doing this morning's Mount Rushmore. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 3: This is a weird one. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: It has to be chocolate ripple cake. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 4: Your last ward. David's plays you wrong, mate? 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Can you go past heavy dough? I'm here to true so. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Definitely there is only one, the Mighty Kingston. 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: My favorite bit of that is I'm here to defend 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: true sourdough, not sour dough, true true South Ado. Hi, 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: it's Tiper your big strong opinions on this week's Mount Rushmore. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: There's only room for four, so make a strong case. 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: This week we turn our attentions to movie baddies. Seventy 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: great villains and baddies in. 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Movies that we've loved over the years. 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: You're gonna have a great movie, you need the classic 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: story of good and bad and who is on the 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: side of bad. 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: Having an interviewed a lot of. 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: Actors over the years, I've always loved asking in a movie, 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: would they rather play a GOODI or Baddy? 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: It's always Baddy. 22 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: You longer opinions about the great baddies who have scared us, 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: who are so evil. 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Who actually hate them at times don't you. 25 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: You really are, But there have been some amazing performances 26 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: from Actus and movie baddies, so they can only be four. 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: So who has to be on a mount rushmore of 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: movie baddies? 29 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Who is it for? 30 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: You? Give us a call this morning, make your case 31 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 2: nine four one four one four three Jack? 32 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: Who are you going to be going for? 33 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: Well, we were talking about Batman just earlier. Heath Ledger's 34 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: joker is right up there. 35 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Why soul serious? What a performance? Brilliant? 36 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: He was fantastic. I mean, are we going for the 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: scariest or most lunatic? I mean all of that? Yeah, 38 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: and that's what he was. A complete madman. I wouldn't 39 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: want to come up against him any day of the week. 40 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: Now. He looked terrifying as well. 41 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: The makeup that was all kind of weird than just 42 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: in those in that movie as well. When he's not 43 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: in scenes, you're you're just twitching about where is he? 44 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: What's he up to? Yeah? 45 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: And Christian BeO is amazing the whole Dark Knight trilogy. 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: Christian Bow is an incredible act. Time You've never seen 47 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: Christian Bell in a bad movie just becomes these characters 48 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: and you know he transforms his bodies and his accents. 49 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: Wouldn't believe he's a British guy, but he's a great. However, 50 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: you know, Christian BeO, I'm sure would admit he is 51 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: blown off the screen by the charisma, the evil charisma 52 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: of Heath Ledger's amazing performance as the Joker. 53 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 4: When you think of the Dark Knight, you think a Hitler. 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely not to. 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 3: Take anything away from Jack Jaquin Phoenix's call Jack. 56 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: Jack Phoenix, home Mate Phoenix, Joe Phoenix, I love him. 57 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: He would be my next best joker. Then Jared Lado 58 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: in Suicide Sure. 59 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Go through a separate mount rushmore just jokers now a. 60 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: Lot over the years there, and then Jack Nicholson last. 61 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah he was more comical comedy joker. Yeah, But Heath 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Ledgers Joker, I think that has to go up there. 63 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Not just I think in movie history one the greatest 64 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: performances from an actor ever. It's incredible and so powerful. 65 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: But in terms of baddies, he is terrifying and that 66 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: very good Patsy was it for you? 67 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: It's got to be Hannibal Lecter, doesn't it. From Silence 68 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: to the Lambs, he's got to be. 69 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Up there and Hannibal Letter is your spirit animal. 70 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: To so many lines from that I ate his liver 71 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: with some father beans. 72 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: What's he for? 73 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: I thought that was you playing it from the original movie. 74 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: Now, I thought I'd find off the clip by accident. 75 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: Then what a powerful accent there. 76 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: You can't spot the difference between what parts he just 77 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: reenacted and from the actual movie. Let's play it now. 78 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: The census taker once tried to test me. I ate 79 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: his lever with some father beans and a nice candy. 80 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 4: Movie terrified me that movie. 81 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: Because like, who's the worst bad guy in that? Because 82 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bill guy is just as bad. 83 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: You see the guy with that down that pits. Is 84 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: he passed the lotion? Yes he is. 85 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: Buffero Bill is actually more terrifying. But Anti Hopkins says, 86 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: Hannibal Letter is a terrifying Baddy Patsy. And what is 87 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: the last scene of the movie where he's chilling just 88 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: on the phone, you know what he calls her? 89 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: Is he at the airport and he's somewhere else? Isn't 90 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: he on. 91 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: In the white suit in the Panama hand? He's about 92 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: to kill and eat somebody else, isn't he? So yeah, 93 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: I think you make a strong case there, Patsy. 94 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: For me, it has to be this guy, I am 95 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: your father to me. 96 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: As a kid, I've been a big fan of Star 97 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: Wars movies. I found him terrifying. It was everything about him. 98 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: He was just Darth Vader was just huge in so 99 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: many ways, not just as evilness, but he just feels 100 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: he was this big. 101 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: He was this. 102 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: Huge, the cloak, the helmet, and way ahead of COVID. 103 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: He had that mask. No COVID for old Darthy boy. 104 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: The whole breathing and the even when he wasn't talking 105 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: or choking out his henchmen or villains and stuff like that. 106 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: He was incredible. 107 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: And then there's the fact that he goaded his son 108 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Luke into a lightsaber jewel and chopped off his own 109 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: son's hands. 110 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: That's how evil he was a father. 111 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: You guys are parents, You would never do that. 112 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to think not, but you can never. 113 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 3: You know, home schooling's getting a bit annoying. 114 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: So for me, it has to be Darth Vader. I 115 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: was terrified and amazed and equal measures as a kid 116 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: by Darth Vader. 117 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: I just thought it was an incredible performance. 118 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: And many many years ago I was doing something and 119 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: I managed to actually go round to the actor that 120 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: is inside. Dave Prowse was the guy who was Darth 121 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: Vader the originally he was inside there. But Dave Prowse 122 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: is a big, big British guy who was a bodybuilder 123 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: and he got Christopher Reeve in shape for Superman. He's 124 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: a massive guy, and that's why George luc was like, 125 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: that's dark Fader, that guy would put him in the outfit. 126 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: Dave didn't know. Dave is from the West Country in England. 127 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: What you need to understand that is it's a lot 128 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: of farmers down that way and they speak a bit 129 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: late there. You know, it's not gonna be terrifying, Luke, 130 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: I am your father, that kind of They sound like bumpkins. 131 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: Dave didn't know, so he does the films all the 132 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: bits right, he doesn't. It takes his family to the 133 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: premiere of what's about to become the biggest movie in 134 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: the world and they see dar Vader and then they 135 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: hear and see another voice and it's not him. Jes 136 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: Lucas had forgotten, you know, when they just would tell 137 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: Dave later on that obviously he's not gonna be his 138 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 2: bumpkin voice as Darth Vader. We'll get James L. Jones 139 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: in post production. Here be Darth Vader. But no one 140 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: ever told. So he did all the lines in that 141 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: bloody great hell. 142 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: That's amazed. 143 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: You would think on set when he's going like, oh, 144 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: you want me to take that line again? 145 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: About that? 146 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: Dave, you have told Jane you're going to do it today, 147 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: weren't you in get him up there, he gets his taxi, 148 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: you know, and then Dave still has there. 149 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: But they made two original Dark Vader. He still has them. 150 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: And I went around his house and he showed me them. 151 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: I they're huge, really really heavy, and he said that, 152 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: you know, when you have home and contents insurance, yeah, 153 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: to put down if there's a certain I think there's 154 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: a limit. Isn't that of what they cover? Five or 155 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars? Because he's got the original Darth Vader helmet, 156 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: he had to apply for an extra kind of limit 157 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: on his Home and Contents insurance. And you know you 158 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: do it all over the phone, don't you. And it's 159 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: just someone in the call center just going through. You're 160 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: just a name on it is going. 161 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: To you estimate like the plus your car. 162 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: How would you describe this, and he had to say, wow, 163 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: it's a large, kind of like this is a bit 164 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: like a Darth Vader helmet. And the pus went, oh, 165 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: it's not the actual one, as he went, yes it is. Yeah, 166 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: it's the Dark Fader helmet. So it's also a fully 167 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: insurance 168 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: Christian O'Connell Show podcast