WEBVTT - The Herb Girls 🌿 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.840 Imagine if the world was just full of people who 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.720 get up in the morning, put on some atrociously bland outfit, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.040 then sit in a windowless office and send some emails 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.160 about nothing important to then come back to their tragically 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.040 bland home to eat their meat and three vegemed inner, 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.680 chat to their partner about taxes or the inflation rate, 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.600 then go to bed at a reasonable hour, then get 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.760 up back again and do the same thing over and 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:32.760 over and over again. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.560 Makes me sick. Well, we don't have any of that here. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.960 Instead, we're shaging the people who seem normal but anything, 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:45.120 but they lead interesting, colorful, and sometimes scandalous lives, even 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.040 if you don't notice it on first meat. This is 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:53.080 concealed with me art simone. Time to meet our guest roleders. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:01:01.560 Heay please, Hi, I'm right, I live. I am thirty 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:06.319 seven years old. I have been a hairdresser, m vidy 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.600 therapist for sixteen years. Are in three heir and vity salons, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.440 Love a good movie and a good night corking at home? 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.480 Short and sweet. Haha, Hello, right, how are you good? 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:21.959 How are you? 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.440 I'm doing really well? Actually, thank you, thanks for asking. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.759 So your hair's justsa yes, so you're still hairdressing. 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.160 No, no, that's where you've got to figure out. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.520 Oh, okay, so you've gone from hair dressing into something else. Yep, okay, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:36.440 what do you not like about hairdressing? 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.080 Hair? Because that would be really hard, you know, imagine 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:39.440 if you like. 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.480 I love the entire thing. I just find that it 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.759 was my time to move on and do something else. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.000 Said it was my time to go. Yes, you know 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.880 it's time to go, right, said Gretel. Colleen shows you 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.640 how I saw like a faux hawk. We've got a 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.200 fai hawk, a fox hawk. That's good. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.560 But you look you look like you're like smart, casual corporateer. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:00.919 You know, I don't. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.240 I've never worked in office because you work in an 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:03.080 office in this I don't know. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.680 Do you have to have a tie these days? I 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.120 don't know. You have a shirt on? I'll say you 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:06.960 can a shirt on? 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.160 And then as to show me the watch. Oh, it's 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.600 like is a gucky good Year Oh nummies? All right, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.760 we've got a gucky watch. Rich Okay, is it real 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:16.160 or fake? 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:17.120 It is real? 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:18.720 Rich? Rich? 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:25.920 Okay, rise rich former hairdresser Okay, fauxhort are asking you 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.959 three questions and from the answer to those three questions, 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.040 I'm gonna try and work out what you were concealing 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.320 from me, and when I'm getting out, it's like what 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.760 you've migrated into post snipping. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:36.800 Of the hair. 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:37.960 Yep, ask away. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:42.320 Okay, first question, what is your worst habit? 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.200 I don't think this is my worst habit, but people 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:48.880 would say that I curse a lot. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:50.760 Oh it's not bad. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.799 Probably you're in a fucking safe space for that today, 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:58.080 your little bitch, I love it. Okay, yeah, cussing. Probably 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.280 can't do that when you're cutting the hair though. No, 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.360 all right, well if people say that is your worst habit, 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:05.520 But what do you think your worst habit is? 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.280 When I get very very busy, I forget certain things. Yes, 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.600 so it could be something like something cooking on the oven, 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:15.960 or it could be that is quite serious. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.280 Yeah, fire has it and running that down. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.720 But let's stay here with the curse, all right, right, 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.600 Richie rich hairdress to form my historys a swearing fire breather. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.240 Okay, got that. Question. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.760 Number two, If you could time travel to a time 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.040 and place, where would you go? 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.360 Hands down, I would probably go back to medieval times. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:43.640 I love the idea of having like no built ups 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.520 of burbia, being able to go and run through forests 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.120 and just see nature. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.320 I just want to let you know you don't have 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.080 to go back in time to medieval times to escape 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:54.800 from suburbia. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.320 Yeah, there's always people there, just. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.480 Kind of like the bush love, it's all right, Okay, 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:05.480 medieval times, what specifically time was medieval in the date range? 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.720 You know, I don't know. I don't know, before. 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:14.520 Teens or fourteen hundred. Get myself a sword, okay. 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:19.080 Okay, so sword legality is a big thing for you. Okay, yes, 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.560 this is random. Okay, I'm gonna work it out. 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:24.920 Okay. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.640 Question number three, where are you most likely to be 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.520 at a party with the sword. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:32.440 When I first get there? 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.440 No, not the sword. I can't bring a sword to 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:34.880 a party. 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:35.239 Okay. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.640 When I first get there, I'll be looking around for 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.560 a bowl of salt and vinegar chips, because, alright, a 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:43.320 lover's pack. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:43.839 Okay. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.560 As I get into the party, I do like a 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.040 good bonfire, staying nice and warm. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.000 Parties you're going to in the bush, okay. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.240 The medieval bush parties, but they still have salt vinegar 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:58.480 chips with swords. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.000 Yeah, okay, yes, it all it's a big picture. 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.360 Well, I'm definitely seeing a picture. Is it the right 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:09.960 picture to know? Okay, let's recap, right. Former head dresser 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.760 Richie rich Gucci watch. Likes to swear a lot, can 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.279 leave things on the stove forgetful fire hazards okay, likes 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.720 medieval old things in the thirteen slash fourteens, like swords, Me. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.760 Too, mane. And if you're at a party, be. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.480 Floating around the salt and vega chips and then migrating 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:29.360 to the bottom fire. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.800 All right, what am I picking up? I need to 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:35.480 pick up? Okay? 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:40.120 What the fuck? Okay, close your eyes process, Yeah, I. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:41.840 Mean I can't see out of these lashes anyway, so 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.240 my eyes are basically closed. St vinegar chips. Why are 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.920 you telling me that salt mina chips vinegar? 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:51.159 Oh? Bitter? 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.000 I don't know, I'm rude. Maybe you're rude? Oh swearing? 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.560 Rude swearing? Okay, fire fires are angry. I'm getting a 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.359 lot of angry vibes here. I'm drawing a picture. Come on, 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:08.720 think I'm a lot of like, you know, good because 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.719 no one nice like salted media chips. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.120 They're all mean. So do you yell at people for 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.599 a living. I would love to yell at people for 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:17.080 a living. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:22.280 You like you're like, ah, you're off, well, a professional insulter, 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.359 That's what I think you are, a professional insulter. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.200 I am a witch. I own a witchcraft store. I've 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.560 been practicing witchcraft for twenty four years and I'm also 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:39.360 initiated into Haitian too. Do my day to day working 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.440 lines looks like waking up providing offerings to the different 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.200 spirits that I work with in servis at the store, 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.000 we provide a whole range of services like tarror reading workshops, 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.359 comsultations and spell work, as well as which he items 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:54.200 for people to use. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.240 In spell work. Why are we talking about stolen media. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.200 Chips because it's delicious. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:02.599 There is a red hering. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.880 There was a red herring. Do you want to go 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.719 to medieval time? You're gonna be burnt at the steak, 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:08.559 your stupid bitch. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:16.280 Come on, no one's going to know. So ray is 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.840 it a professional insult? And now he is a witch? 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:20.800 Has he cast it a spell on me? 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.080 Now? Is that how he arrived? The smoke behind me 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.080 at the moment? Did he cast it? Is that from him? 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.080 Is there a caldron here? 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:40.120 Recipes. I could do some soup, all right, So we're 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.720 here with Ray. He is not a professional insulter. No, 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.800 you are a witch, I am. You're a witchy bitch. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.960 I like the biggest witch bitch of all. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.080 Oh my god, this stupor hairdressing to witchy time. Let's 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:52.480 go back. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.680 Can you explain what a witch is? Because at the moment, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.320 people are picturing a myriad of things of what a 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.760 witch could be. It could be you know, the West 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.520 Little Green bitch. You know, you know, Wicked, the movie 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:05.920 there for me. At the moment, they might be thinking 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.560 of Ariana Grande. You could be Ariana Grande. We never 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:09.640 know what's a witch? 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.920 Tell me it is all of the above. I think 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.720 the is a witch. 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.160 You've heard it here first confirmed. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.560 It does depend on who you ask. The meaning will 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:25.120 change for me, which is somebody who lives outside of 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:30.880 social norms, somebody who does practice a form of magic, 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.400 which is witchcraft. Somebody who lives sort of on the edge, 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.600 fights for injustice and appropriation, everything like that. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.880 So how do you become a witch? 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.560 Then I can relate to a bunch of things you said, 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.160 except for the bit where you said doing actual spells 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:46.600 and stuff. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.400 So how do you go from like, you. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.880 Know, I've been a little bit left of center and 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.679 then going alak exam ala kazoo, I don't. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.280 Like you do be do well? 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:56.760 There you go. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:02.240 I done it. That was just someone I didn't like. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:03.120 I was thinking of them. 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.320 I think for everybody it's different. For me, it was 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:12.000 for like, I became a witch when I had an 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:17.280 introduction to witchcraft. I've always loved, like growing up history 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.760 and watching documentaries about Egypt and about pyramids and about mythology, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.840 and it kind of went from there from loving that 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.120 to loving fantasy TV shows and movies and then reading 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.280 a few books and boom. 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.800 Well, what I've learned from this podcast is if you 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.400 want to do something, just go and do it. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:34.440 You got to read it. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:35.120 You've got to read it. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.920 There's actually a lot of books that have been read. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.320 A lot of these guests that I've had, they're like, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.920 I read a book. We need to be sponsored by 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.240 book Topia, okay, because we could actually have a compendium 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.520 that goes with this and recommended books for people that 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.679 want to get into all the things rather they do actually, 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.720 So so you just kind of decide to be what essentially. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.160 Is the way you A lot of people do have 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:01.360 a calling to that, to becoming a witch or having 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.360 a magical practice in some way or form. I think 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.840 under the umbrella of witchcraft, there are so many different 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:13.600 spiritual paths and practices and magical traditions that some people 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.440 accord to particular areas. 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:21.640 So yours is to do Asian. I'm really smart Haitio. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:22.679 Yes, yes, thinks. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.319 What's the difference between like that and witchcraft? Or is 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:26.720 it kind of the same umbrella? 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.800 So I was in a sheditation Voodoo compared to my 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:35.120 witchcraft practice very very different culturally even cosmology, So how 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.640 spirits came about or how they would do different ceremonies 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.120 and rituals are very very different obviously, like cultural context 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.200 as well. So one being in Haiti drawn from the 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:50.440 slave trade compared to Europe who have had relatively not 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.520 many issues besides fighting amongst each other. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:57.640 Mm hmmm, grumby bitches. Yes, well okay, So is zoo 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.719 do like what we see in the movie? You know? 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.480 Do you want it to be like what you've see 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:02.880 in the movie. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.960 I don't know. I want to know, you know. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.480 It is from like when we say voodoo A lot 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.120 of people do naturally think of, like American horror story 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:19.800 coven that that was my favorite one. It's good. I'm 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.840 going to probably say that it is ninety nine point 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.000 nine percent inaccurate. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.200 You see on TV we miss here today. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:34.920 Yes, for me, voodoo is about that's in there somewhere. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.800 I got stopped witchcraft as well, Oh stop it. The 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.400 voodoo is for for me is the family. It's about community, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.280 and it's about love, not stabbing dolls or anything like that. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:47.920 Not saying that you can't. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.760 I mean, I don't want to reveal this, but I will. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.120 I have a few voodoo dolls, but not in the 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.000 fact that anyone's actually like, I don't know, put any 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.520 like spells on them. But my grandmother used to make 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:04.440 me vooded of people that I didn't like and no joke, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.280 and she would make them when I was like in school. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:08.520 How big is a collection? 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:10.400 Oh, we've got give me figures. 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.400 There's only three because there was two that she made, 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.880 and then my mum carried on the tradition when she 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.079 passed away and made me another one back to the 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.520 one that my grandmother made. Her one was made out 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.160 of like old stockings. She nicknamed the guy that was 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.280 mean to me smarty pants, so she put little smarties 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.040 all over his pants and then I would stab him. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:31.560 Yeah. 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.240 Sure, your grandmother wasn't a witch. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.400 Well, she definitely was a bitch. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.880 So's the same family. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:38.760 That's what she used to do. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.720 Because I'm not really good at farting, and I'm not 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.800 really good at like being aggressive towards other people. So 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.480 this is a nice passive way dab him in the dick. 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.840 Oh should do the knees. Oh my god, you got 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:53.800 a bag? Oh my god, job a vooty doll? This 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:54.680 is oh my god. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:55.600 Stop. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.320 So you've just handed me this voodoo doll? What's inside 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:00.959 of it? Because I can feel some things. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:06.040 So with that particular one, it is filled with rose 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.440 and a few other herbs. Who it is for love. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:10.240 So with the. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.080 Dolls, I wish you could smell this, But as I 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:23.520 smell this, you should do. It's nots lovely good. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.040 But with the with the poppets, they are so yeah, 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.400 that's what they call like the real name for them. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.200 If it wasn't for movies and TV shows, the voodoo 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.960 doll wouldn't be technically a thing. But the poppet is 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.600 supposed to represent somebody and what you do to that 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.480 will then affect that person in life. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.720 How do you make that happen though? How do do 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:44.199 the connection? 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.480 Lots of processes, but the idea is that, like historically 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.000 they were used a lot for like for fertility and 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.280 for love and for protection, blessings and obviously if you're 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.040 itbitu hate somebody you can stab and throw in a fire. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.839 Believing karma you know you know what I mean? 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.960 Well, that one is for you, of you of me? Yeah. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.360 Oh, so you do voodoo and you mentioned spells, Like 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.680 what spells the work successfully. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.840 For you depends on what you want to do. Like 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:15.320 I've done like plenty of spells as a teenager. I 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.040 remember the very first one that actually worked. The next 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.880 day got the result. I was like, oh fuck, so 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.360 that kind of inspired me to continue. That was a 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.480 kiss spell, So I got kissed when I was younger. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:28.080 Oh my god. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:33.000 But do you sometimes think that it's also just you've 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.040 done that spell so in your brain you're kind of 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.440 like putting that out into the world to happen, so 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.280 you're more receptive for it to happen, or as also 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.920 all the process, you know, all of the because if 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:44.080 I did a spell and I was like, I really 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.000 want to get kissed tomorrow, I think I do it, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:47.960 and then the next day I'd be like walking around 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.880 with my lips powdered, getting really close different spaces, expectantly. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.080 Hello, and then it would happen potentially. 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.760 The other thing I'm thinking of is we've been through 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.560 film and television like there's dark and light, magic, black 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:02.000 and white. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.600 Is that a thing? You know? A good witch? Bad witch? 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.400 I same as like the doll, Like I look at 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.920 it as everybody has their own their own intentions about 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.560 the intention of the person, rather than like you could 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.360 do a poppet to harm somebody, and if that person 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:21.760 is doing harm to a partner or to children, then 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.480 is that considered something evil? 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:25.320 True? 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.040 But if I'm doing say. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.760 At serial killers who kill bad people, it's like dexter 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.680 and they go, am I actually a bad guy because 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:34.960 I'm just killing bad guys? 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:36.720 So are you a bad witch? 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:41.440 If you're just giving people what they deserve, I or 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:42.480 in order it's for you. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.760 I think people need to be wise enough to know 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.800 that they're not judged or an executioner. I think there 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.800 are times when people do deserve certain things, and then 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.280 there are times when I need to take a step 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.720 back and say I'm not going to do that, or no, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.880 that person doesn't deserve that because whatever other factors there are. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.800 Now I had to ask, you know, witchy voodoo, is 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.040 anything spooky scary happened? 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.680 I want to know, have you tried a Oiji board before? No? 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.720 Why not? You haven't lived until you've tried solving your 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:14.160 chips and then a Ouiji boy, I want to. 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:14.920 Do it by myself. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.400 You know, I don't feel like it's a thing to 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:18.760 do with someone, but you have to trust them that 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.680 they're not like playing with it, you know what I mean, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:25.200 they're going, oh, yes. Actually, the best way to test 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.360 if someone was like messing with you would be to 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.120 do a Wiji board with a dyslexic person, because if 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.360 they're like spelling the words wrong, then okay. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:35.240 Scary story guy. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.200 I was probably about twenty one twenty two doing Ouiji 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.840 board with about four or five other people. We were 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.640 a bit intoxicated, so it wasn't one hundred percent like. 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.360 We went on board, started making fun of some of 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.880 the spirits coming through, and then all of a sudden 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.800 there was a massive thump under the table the coffee 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.040 table like kind of like jumped from the hit. And 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.840 then one of the girls grabbed one of the knives 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.520 and started hacking into her arms. So we had to 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.920 like jump on her to stop her doing that, and 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:04.520 she woke up and going what the hell you doing 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.280 on me? Didn't realize what she had done. She hacking 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.879 at you just started stabbing her arm. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.280 Yeah, I don't like that, And you still said after that, 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.520 I'll still keep fondling in the arena. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.439 With Wiji boards. It is one of these things that 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.240 people either completely hate to want anything to do with, 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.520 or they love it. I think as long as they're 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.360 done correctly and finished correctly, then generally your ninety nine 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.680 percent nine percent chance, like you're fine. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.920 Did you actually customize a Weigie board with your own 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:33.720 personal phrases? 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:35.320 You know what I mean? 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.120 Because you know there's like yes, no, maybe, and then 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.800 like all the letters, could you, like you know, save 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.040 your favorite phrases like slay. 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.080 Mama or like oker you. 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.000 I'm going to say yes, yeah, because I don't know 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.040 how well it will work, but you'll get the answer. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:51.720 Do you want I'm just trying to make it quicker, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.880 you know, because it seems like to be a long 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.119 time this ballad word because I have my Apple TV 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.960 remote and I have to tap through every single little 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.120 keyboard thing. I hate to put my password in three 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.240 years later finally into it. Okay, if I'm doing that 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.920 with that unless they go faster. But on the TV show, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:10.280 I can. 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.360 Go quite fast. Like I've had plan chets like fly 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:13.600 off the table, They've just gone. 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.240 I want to talk to that spirit. That's more my type. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.080 Do you do like ougi spells or like voodoo for 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.000 other people? Yep, okay, yeah, not voodoo I do. That's 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.760 just for myself. Okay, but witchcraft you do. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:27.560 The voodoo for you do? 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:28.760 So I do do. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.200 But what the spell work do you do for other people? 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.280 I get a lot of love, prosperity, and divination, so 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.720 seeing what's happening for certain situations or for future. I 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.040 do have the occasional like cleansing to do. And then 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.240 more baneful works are more like curses and xes. So 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.640 does watch out bitch. 0:18:53.400 --> 0:19:00.280 Get back, get back, get back? Oh okay, so how 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.919 do you take on a curse? Texts like do you 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:04.200 case to case basis? 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:04.440 Yeah? 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.119 If I come to you and I go Oh, you know, 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.200 I really don't like this person. Can you just go 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.720 and make sure their life is awful, needy context? You go, well, 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.680 tell me why they're bad, give me the evidence. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.280 So normally we do well, I do a consultation and 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.320 go through ask all these questions. A lot of people 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.359 who do want spell work and doesn't matter what it 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.919 is getting it through some sort of like emotion. So 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.720 either they've had their X break up with them and 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.840 now they want them back and they're not right in 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.760