1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Imagine if the world was just full of people who 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: get up in the morning, put on some atrociously bland outfit, 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: then sit in a windowless office and send some emails 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: about nothing important to then come back to their tragically 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: bland home to eat their meat and three vegemed inner, 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: chat to their partner about taxes or the inflation rate, 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: then go to bed at a reasonable hour, then get 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: up back again and do the same thing over and 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: over and over again. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: Makes me sick. Well, we don't have any of that here. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Instead, we're shaging the people who seem normal but anything, 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: but they lead interesting, colorful, and sometimes scandalous lives, even 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: if you don't notice it on first meat. This is 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: concealed with me art simone. Time to meet our guest roleders. 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: Heay please, Hi, I'm right, I live. I am thirty 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: seven years old. I have been a hairdresser, m vidy 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: therapist for sixteen years. Are in three heir and vity salons, 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: Love a good movie and a good night corking at home? 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: Short and sweet. Haha, Hello, right, how are you good? 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: How are you? 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing really well? Actually, thank you, thanks for asking. 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: So your hair's justsa yes, so you're still hairdressing. 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: No, no, that's where you've got to figure out. 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so you've gone from hair dressing into something else. Yep, okay, 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: what do you not like about hairdressing? 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: Hair? Because that would be really hard, you know, imagine 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: if you like. 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: I love the entire thing. I just find that it 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: was my time to move on and do something else. 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Said it was my time to go. Yes, you know 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: it's time to go, right, said Gretel. Colleen shows you 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: how I saw like a faux hawk. We've got a 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: fai hawk, a fox hawk. That's good. 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: But you look you look like you're like smart, casual corporateer. 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 2: You know, I don't. 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: I've never worked in office because you work in an 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: office in this I don't know. 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: Do you have to have a tie these days? I 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: don't know. You have a shirt on? I'll say you 40 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: can a shirt on? 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: And then as to show me the watch. Oh, it's 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: like is a gucky good Year Oh nummies? All right, 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: we've got a gucky watch. Rich Okay, is it real 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: or fake? 45 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: It is real? 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: Rich? Rich? 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: Okay, rise rich former hairdresser Okay, fauxhort are asking you 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: three questions and from the answer to those three questions, 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and work out what you were concealing 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: from me, and when I'm getting out, it's like what 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: you've migrated into post snipping. 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: Of the hair. 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: Yep, ask away. 54 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: Okay, first question, what is your worst habit? 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: I don't think this is my worst habit, but people 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: would say that I curse a lot. 57 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: Oh it's not bad. 58 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: Probably you're in a fucking safe space for that today, 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: your little bitch, I love it. Okay, yeah, cussing. Probably 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: can't do that when you're cutting the hair though. No, 61 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: all right, well if people say that is your worst habit, 62 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: But what do you think your worst habit is? 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: When I get very very busy, I forget certain things. Yes, 64 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: so it could be something like something cooking on the oven, 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: or it could be that is quite serious. 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, fire has it and running that down. 67 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: But let's stay here with the curse, all right, right, 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: Richie rich hairdress to form my historys a swearing fire breather. 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: Okay, got that. Question. 70 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: Number two, If you could time travel to a time 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: and place, where would you go? 72 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: Hands down, I would probably go back to medieval times. 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: I love the idea of having like no built ups 74 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: of burbia, being able to go and run through forests 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: and just see nature. 76 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know you don't have 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: to go back in time to medieval times to escape 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: from suburbia. 79 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always people there, just. 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Kind of like the bush love, it's all right, Okay, 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: medieval times, what specifically time was medieval in the date range? 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I don't know, before. 83 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Teens or fourteen hundred. Get myself a sword, okay. 84 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so sword legality is a big thing for you. Okay, yes, 85 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: this is random. Okay, I'm gonna work it out. 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Question number three, where are you most likely to be 88 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: at a party with the sword. 89 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: When I first get there? 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: No, not the sword. I can't bring a sword to 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: a party. 92 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: Okay. 93 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: When I first get there, I'll be looking around for 94 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: a bowl of salt and vinegar chips, because, alright, a 95 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: lover's pack. 96 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: Okay. 97 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: As I get into the party, I do like a 98 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: good bonfire, staying nice and warm. 99 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: Parties you're going to in the bush, okay. 100 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: The medieval bush parties, but they still have salt vinegar 101 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: chips with swords. 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yes, it all it's a big picture. 103 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: Well, I'm definitely seeing a picture. Is it the right 104 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: picture to know? Okay, let's recap, right. Former head dresser 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Richie rich Gucci watch. Likes to swear a lot, can 106 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: leave things on the stove forgetful fire hazards okay, likes 107 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: medieval old things in the thirteen slash fourteens, like swords, Me. 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: Too, mane. And if you're at a party, be. 109 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: Floating around the salt and vega chips and then migrating 110 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: to the bottom fire. 111 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: All right, what am I picking up? I need to 112 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: pick up? Okay? 113 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: What the fuck? Okay, close your eyes process, Yeah, I. 114 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: Mean I can't see out of these lashes anyway, so 115 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: my eyes are basically closed. St vinegar chips. Why are 116 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: you telling me that salt mina chips vinegar? 117 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: Oh? Bitter? 118 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm rude. Maybe you're rude? Oh swearing? 119 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: Rude swearing? Okay, fire fires are angry. I'm getting a 120 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: lot of angry vibes here. I'm drawing a picture. Come on, 121 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: think I'm a lot of like, you know, good because 122 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: no one nice like salted media chips. 123 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: They're all mean. So do you yell at people for 124 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: a living. I would love to yell at people for 125 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: a living. 126 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: You like you're like, ah, you're off, well, a professional insulter, 127 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: That's what I think you are, a professional insulter. 128 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: I am a witch. I own a witchcraft store. I've 129 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: been practicing witchcraft for twenty four years and I'm also 130 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: initiated into Haitian too. Do my day to day working 131 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: lines looks like waking up providing offerings to the different 132 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: spirits that I work with in servis at the store, 133 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: we provide a whole range of services like tarror reading workshops, 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 3: comsultations and spell work, as well as which he items 135 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: for people to use. 136 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: In spell work. Why are we talking about stolen media. 137 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: Chips because it's delicious. 138 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: There is a red hering. 139 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: There was a red herring. Do you want to go 140 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: to medieval time? You're gonna be burnt at the steak, 141 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: your stupid bitch. 142 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: Come on, no one's going to know. So ray is 143 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: it a professional insult? And now he is a witch? 144 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Has he cast it a spell on me? 145 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Now? Is that how he arrived? The smoke behind me 146 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: at the moment? Did he cast it? Is that from him? 147 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: Is there a caldron here? 148 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: Recipes. I could do some soup, all right, So we're 149 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: here with Ray. He is not a professional insulter. No, 150 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: you are a witch, I am. You're a witchy bitch. 151 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: I like the biggest witch bitch of all. 152 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this stupor hairdressing to witchy time. Let's 153 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: go back. 154 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Can you explain what a witch is? Because at the moment, 155 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: people are picturing a myriad of things of what a 156 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: witch could be. It could be you know, the West 157 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Little Green bitch. You know, you know, Wicked, the movie 158 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: there for me. At the moment, they might be thinking 159 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: of Ariana Grande. You could be Ariana Grande. We never 160 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: know what's a witch? 161 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: Tell me it is all of the above. I think 162 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: the is a witch. 163 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: You've heard it here first confirmed. 164 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: It does depend on who you ask. The meaning will 165 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: change for me, which is somebody who lives outside of 166 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: social norms, somebody who does practice a form of magic, 167 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: which is witchcraft. Somebody who lives sort of on the edge, 168 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: fights for injustice and appropriation, everything like that. 169 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: So how do you become a witch? 170 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: Then I can relate to a bunch of things you said, 171 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: except for the bit where you said doing actual spells 172 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: and stuff. 173 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: So how do you go from like, you. 174 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: Know, I've been a little bit left of center and 175 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: then going alak exam ala kazoo, I don't. 176 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: Like you do be do well? 177 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: There you go. 178 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: I done it. That was just someone I didn't like. 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: I was thinking of them. 180 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: I think for everybody it's different. For me, it was 181 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: for like, I became a witch when I had an 182 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: introduction to witchcraft. I've always loved, like growing up history 183 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: and watching documentaries about Egypt and about pyramids and about mythology, 184 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: and it kind of went from there from loving that 185 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: to loving fantasy TV shows and movies and then reading 186 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: a few books and boom. 187 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Well, what I've learned from this podcast is if you 188 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: want to do something, just go and do it. 189 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: You got to read it. 190 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: You've got to read it. 191 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: There's actually a lot of books that have been read. 192 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: A lot of these guests that I've had, they're like, 193 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: I read a book. We need to be sponsored by 194 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: book Topia, okay, because we could actually have a compendium 195 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: that goes with this and recommended books for people that 196 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: want to get into all the things rather they do actually, 197 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: So so you just kind of decide to be what essentially. 198 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: Is the way you A lot of people do have 199 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: a calling to that, to becoming a witch or having 200 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: a magical practice in some way or form. I think 201 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: under the umbrella of witchcraft, there are so many different 202 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: spiritual paths and practices and magical traditions that some people 203 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: accord to particular areas. 204 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: So yours is to do Asian. I'm really smart Haitio. 205 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, thinks. 206 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: What's the difference between like that and witchcraft? Or is 207 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: it kind of the same umbrella? 208 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: So I was in a sheditation Voodoo compared to my 209 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: witchcraft practice very very different culturally even cosmology, So how 210 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: spirits came about or how they would do different ceremonies 211 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: and rituals are very very different obviously, like cultural context 212 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: as well. So one being in Haiti drawn from the 213 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: slave trade compared to Europe who have had relatively not 214 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: many issues besides fighting amongst each other. 215 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, grumby bitches. Yes, well okay, So is zoo 216 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: do like what we see in the movie? You know? 217 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: Do you want it to be like what you've see 218 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: in the movie. 219 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to know, you know. 220 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: It is from like when we say voodoo A lot 221 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: of people do naturally think of, like American horror story 222 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: coven that that was my favorite one. It's good. I'm 223 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: going to probably say that it is ninety nine point 224 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: nine percent inaccurate. 225 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: You see on TV we miss here today. 226 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: Yes, for me, voodoo is about that's in there somewhere. 227 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: I got stopped witchcraft as well, Oh stop it. The 228 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: voodoo is for for me is the family. It's about community, 229 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: and it's about love, not stabbing dolls or anything like that. 230 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: Not saying that you can't. 231 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to reveal this, but I will. 232 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: I have a few voodoo dolls, but not in the 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: fact that anyone's actually like, I don't know, put any 234 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: like spells on them. But my grandmother used to make 235 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: me vooded of people that I didn't like and no joke, 236 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: and she would make them when I was like in school. 237 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: How big is a collection? 238 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: Oh, we've got give me figures. 239 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: There's only three because there was two that she made, 240 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: and then my mum carried on the tradition when she 241 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: passed away and made me another one back to the 242 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: one that my grandmother made. Her one was made out 243 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: of like old stockings. She nicknamed the guy that was 244 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: mean to me smarty pants, so she put little smarties 245 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: all over his pants and then I would stab him. 246 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 247 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: Sure, your grandmother wasn't a witch. 248 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: Well, she definitely was a bitch. 249 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: So's the same family. 250 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: That's what she used to do. 251 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: Because I'm not really good at farting, and I'm not 252 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: really good at like being aggressive towards other people. So 253 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: this is a nice passive way dab him in the dick. 254 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: Oh should do the knees. Oh my god, you got 255 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: a bag? Oh my god, job a vooty doll? This 256 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: is oh my god. 257 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: Stop. 258 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: So you've just handed me this voodoo doll? What's inside 259 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: of it? Because I can feel some things. 260 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: So with that particular one, it is filled with rose 261 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: and a few other herbs. Who it is for love. 262 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: So with the. 263 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: Dolls, I wish you could smell this, But as I 264 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: smell this, you should do. It's nots lovely good. 265 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: But with the with the poppets, they are so yeah, 266 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: that's what they call like the real name for them. 267 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: If it wasn't for movies and TV shows, the voodoo 268 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: doll wouldn't be technically a thing. But the poppet is 269 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: supposed to represent somebody and what you do to that 270 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: will then affect that person in life. 271 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: How do you make that happen though? How do do 272 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: the connection? 273 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: Lots of processes, but the idea is that, like historically 274 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: they were used a lot for like for fertility and 275 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: for love and for protection, blessings and obviously if you're 276 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: itbitu hate somebody you can stab and throw in a fire. 277 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: Believing karma you know you know what I mean? 278 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: Well, that one is for you, of you of me? Yeah. 279 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: Oh, so you do voodoo and you mentioned spells, Like 280 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: what spells the work successfully. 281 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: For you depends on what you want to do. Like 282 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: I've done like plenty of spells as a teenager. I 283 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: remember the very first one that actually worked. The next 284 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: day got the result. I was like, oh fuck, so 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: that kind of inspired me to continue. That was a 286 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: kiss spell, So I got kissed when I was younger. 287 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 288 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: But do you sometimes think that it's also just you've 289 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: done that spell so in your brain you're kind of 290 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: like putting that out into the world to happen, so 291 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: you're more receptive for it to happen, or as also 292 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: all the process, you know, all of the because if 293 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: I did a spell and I was like, I really 294 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: want to get kissed tomorrow, I think I do it, 295 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: and then the next day I'd be like walking around 296 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: with my lips powdered, getting really close different spaces, expectantly. 297 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: Hello, and then it would happen potentially. 298 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: The other thing I'm thinking of is we've been through 299 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: film and television like there's dark and light, magic, black 300 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: and white. 301 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: Is that a thing? You know? A good witch? Bad witch? 302 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: I same as like the doll, Like I look at 303 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: it as everybody has their own their own intentions about 304 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: the intention of the person, rather than like you could 305 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: do a poppet to harm somebody, and if that person 306 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: is doing harm to a partner or to children, then 307 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: is that considered something evil? 308 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: True? 309 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: But if I'm doing say. 310 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: At serial killers who kill bad people, it's like dexter 311 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: and they go, am I actually a bad guy because 312 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm just killing bad guys? 313 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: So are you a bad witch? 314 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: If you're just giving people what they deserve, I or 315 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: in order it's for you. 316 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: I think people need to be wise enough to know 317 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: that they're not judged or an executioner. I think there 318 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: are times when people do deserve certain things, and then 319 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: there are times when I need to take a step 320 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: back and say I'm not going to do that, or no, 321 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: that person doesn't deserve that because whatever other factors there are. 322 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Now I had to ask, you know, witchy voodoo, is 323 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: anything spooky scary happened? 324 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: I want to know, have you tried a Oiji board before? No? 325 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: Why not? You haven't lived until you've tried solving your 326 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: chips and then a Ouiji boy, I want to. 327 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: Do it by myself. 328 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: You know, I don't feel like it's a thing to 329 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: do with someone, but you have to trust them that 330 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: they're not like playing with it, you know what I mean, 331 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: they're going, oh, yes. Actually, the best way to test 332 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: if someone was like messing with you would be to 333 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: do a Wiji board with a dyslexic person, because if 334 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: they're like spelling the words wrong, then okay. 335 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: Scary story guy. 336 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: I was probably about twenty one twenty two doing Ouiji 337 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: board with about four or five other people. We were 338 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: a bit intoxicated, so it wasn't one hundred percent like. 339 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: We went on board, started making fun of some of 340 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: the spirits coming through, and then all of a sudden 341 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: there was a massive thump under the table the coffee 342 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: table like kind of like jumped from the hit. And 343 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: then one of the girls grabbed one of the knives 344 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: and started hacking into her arms. So we had to 345 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: like jump on her to stop her doing that, and 346 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: she woke up and going what the hell you doing 347 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: on me? Didn't realize what she had done. She hacking 348 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 3: at you just started stabbing her arm. 349 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like that, And you still said after that, 350 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: I'll still keep fondling in the arena. 351 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 3: With Wiji boards. It is one of these things that 352 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: people either completely hate to want anything to do with, 353 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: or they love it. I think as long as they're 354 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 3: done correctly and finished correctly, then generally your ninety nine 355 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: percent nine percent chance, like you're fine. 356 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: Did you actually customize a Weigie board with your own 357 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: personal phrases? 358 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 359 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: Because you know there's like yes, no, maybe, and then 360 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: like all the letters, could you, like you know, save 361 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: your favorite phrases like slay. 362 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: Mama or like oker you. 363 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to say yes, yeah, because I don't know 364 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: how well it will work, but you'll get the answer. 365 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: Do you want I'm just trying to make it quicker, 366 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, because it seems like to be a long 367 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: time this ballad word because I have my Apple TV 368 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: remote and I have to tap through every single little 369 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: keyboard thing. I hate to put my password in three 370 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: years later finally into it. Okay, if I'm doing that 371 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: with that unless they go faster. But on the TV show, 372 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: I can. 373 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 3: Go quite fast. Like I've had plan chets like fly 374 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: off the table, They've just gone. 375 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk to that spirit. That's more my type. 376 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: Do you do like ougi spells or like voodoo for 377 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: other people? Yep, okay, yeah, not voodoo I do. That's 378 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: just for myself. Okay, but witchcraft you do. 379 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: The voodoo for you do? 380 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: So I do do. 381 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: But what the spell work do you do for other people? 382 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: I get a lot of love, prosperity, and divination, so 383 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: seeing what's happening for certain situations or for future. I 384 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: do have the occasional like cleansing to do. And then 385 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: more baneful works are more like curses and xes. So 386 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: does watch out bitch. 387 00:18:53,400 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: Get back, get back, get back? Oh okay, so how 388 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: do you take on a curse? Texts like do you 389 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: case to case basis? 390 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 391 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: If I come to you and I go Oh, you know, 392 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: I really don't like this person. Can you just go 393 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: and make sure their life is awful, needy context? You go, well, 394 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: tell me why they're bad, give me the evidence. 395 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: So normally we do well, I do a consultation and 396 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: go through ask all these questions. A lot of people 397 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: who do want spell work and doesn't matter what it 398 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 3: is getting it through some sort of like emotion. So 399 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: either they've had their X break up with them and 400 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: now they want them back and they're not right in 401 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: the space, messed with that right, you know, depends on 402 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: how you do it, or sometimes. 403 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: I count like a little bit like a counseling session 404 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: for someone because I feel like if I was really 405 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: upset about a situation and I felt like I was 406 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: being proactive and went to someone like you, maybe whether 407 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: you did something or didn't like didn't end up like 408 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: taking me on, it would just make me feel like 409 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I've been proactive. 410 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 411 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: With love, I normally don't do it for specific people. 412 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: It's more for like quality tears of a partner that 413 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 3: they want and that way they're not falling into the 414 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 3: same potentially like toxic relationship over and over again, all 415 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: the same habits and same issues up potions yeah. 416 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: Like like potions? Potions? Yeah, what do you do with them? 417 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 3: Sometimes when we make things, it can just be like 418 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: an oil, so you apply to yourself. I have made 419 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: things to go in food before for. 420 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: The person for them to sneak into something. And should 421 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: we were exposing you right now, not. 422 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: A roofy like like we're real stuff. 423 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: Can you're actually just a meth dealer and we had 424 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: no idea? 425 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: Like you brought it a mets dealer again the second time. 426 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: You gotta stop with I just mix up some potions. 427 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: Just take this with water, you'll be bad. 428 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So some things you can consume. 429 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's tea, sometimes it's something to put in your 430 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: mop worter, heaps of stuff. 431 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So then what is the deciding factor? You'd 432 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: be like, yeah, I'll do it. No way. 433 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: Sometimes it may be like not now, I can do it, 434 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: but not now, like you need to go through and 435 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: this process something first, or I need you to give 436 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 3: it a little bit first before they can they're in 437 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: the right mind frame to be able to have it done. 438 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: Sometimes I say yes and I find myself running through 439 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: the forest midnight, freeze my ass off. Trying to do stuff. 440 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: Are you just had a beat? I don't know. I'm 441 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: doing consensual babe. 442 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm just going out to different spells. Don't wait up. 443 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: You'll find me by the big bush. 444 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: But I'll be following through the bushes looking for the row. Okay. 445 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: And is there a team of you? 446 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: I have five staff. 447 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. And do they all do the same thing? Oh, 448 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: you've got specially. 449 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: Is it kind of like the spice skills where you 450 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: all have a thing that you're good at the other way, 451 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: I think that would love to be the spy skills, 452 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: but we're not cool enough to. 453 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: Use by skills. Spices in potions, don't you? 454 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? And herbs? 455 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: Oh maybe you could be that after everything we've learned. Hypothetically, 456 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: let me pretend to be a client. Okay if over 457 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: the past year, you know, I may have had some 458 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: certain person latantly rip off one of my routines that 459 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: I do and that I personally created and using a 460 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: special show mix that's actually mine that I got customized 461 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: and commissioned, and I wanted to put a hex on them? 462 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: How would I do it? And like, could we do 463 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: it today? 464 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: But hypothetically, maybe hypothetically you could do lots of things. 465 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 3: What sort of personality is this hypothetical. 466 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: Person hypothetically dickhead who has no original ideas ever in 467 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: their life and likes to copy everything I do. 468 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: And it's really ugly hypothetically. 469 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: So so if you do want to do something, there 470 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: are quite a few things you can do. If it's 471 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: more like you could create a poppet for them and 472 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: have a representation of them so or that you would 473 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: realistically need it, like better if you have a piece 474 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: of their clothing or something of. 475 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: Them taken everything that I have? Sorry, hypothetically, do you 476 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: have their name or their birthday? 477 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: I have, yes. 478 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: You get a photo from their Facebook or Instagram? 479 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: I have all of those things. 480 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 3: You can do something. You could tie their hands. You 481 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: could make them so they spill all the shit that 482 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: they're they are a. 483 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: Drag queen in high heels that I might see them 484 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: at a venue hypothetically. 485 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: Today, hypothetically if you push them over, was it the 486 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: spell or was that you. 487 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to do it. With the spell, it 488 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: took over. I'm sorry. Ride does and yell at people 489 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: for a living? 490 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: No, who is a witch speaking? 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