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Speaker 1: The Will and Woody podcast that Bite sized.

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Speaker 2: Last night, the finale of Celebrity Apprentice was on, and

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Speaker 2: this go.

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Speaker 3: On, Benji, I'm delighted to say that you are the

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Speaker 3: winner of Celebrity Apprentice. You have raised four hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty seven thousand, one hundred and five dollars.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot, a lot of fun. It is no

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Speaker 4: secret that I absolutely love this guy.

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Speaker 2: His name's Benji Marshall and he joins us on the

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Speaker 2: phone right now.

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Speaker 4: Gooday, benj.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, it's nice to be on the show with

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Speaker 5: well someone smart for once. Actually, that is it.

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Speaker 1: I love him already.

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Speaker 6: Lucually.

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Speaker 5: In my head, I thought it was going to go

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Speaker 5: down way better.

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Speaker 7: You know, little darling watching the finale back last night,

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Speaker 7: where did you watch it?

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Speaker 4: Who were you with?

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Speaker 5: Look at? I had a few requests from a few

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Speaker 5: of the celebrities to try and do like a viewing

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Speaker 5: party for a No. No, I was just at home

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Speaker 5: with my wife and I and we're just killed on

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Speaker 5: the couch because she knows I'm quite an emotional cat.

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Speaker 5: And I actually got emotional watching it again, which is crazy,

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Speaker 5: but you know, if that's just how I am. And no,

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Speaker 5: it was good.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was actually good to watch it back because I

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Speaker 5: forgot that Wood he used to copy how I dress.

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Speaker 1: He does talk about you a lot, Benji.

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Speaker 2: Not only not only was I dressing the way that

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Speaker 2: you dress, Benji, but like, if you go and watch

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Speaker 2: the episode and Gon's out on nine now, I'm wearing

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Speaker 2: exactly the same T shirt and pants as Benji, and

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Speaker 2: I'm also wearing the watch that Benji gave me during

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Speaker 2: the series as well. So like, Benji, you agree with this,

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Speaker 2: like again, and I know you're a humble guy, but

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Speaker 2: he's such a caring person that if you walk up

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Speaker 2: to Benji and compliment whatever he's wearing and that was

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Speaker 2: a watch, at the moment he literally flicks the watch

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Speaker 2: off and goes, you're that is.

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Speaker 1: Like the biggest walk flex.

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Speaker 5: Definitely, yeah, I do. But you should have seen what

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Speaker 5: Wood he did to me. After I gave him the watch,

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Speaker 5: he started doing it to me. Everything goes he nice, runners,

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Speaker 5: do you want them? The runners?

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Speaker 2: He's like nice, Oh, Benji you are You're a funny man.

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Speaker 4: People would know you from the rugby field as well.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, I hadn't seen the episode before the finales.

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Speaker 2: This is Monday Nights episode and again for people they

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Speaker 2: can go and still see it on nine now. But

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Speaker 2: the challenge was to pitch a TV show to stand effectively,

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Speaker 2: and like, this was pretty powerful stuff, Benji, I've got

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Speaker 2: a little grab of your pitch to stand.

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Speaker 6: That's the Benji Marshall that everyone else sees, the Benji

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Speaker 6: Marshall that everyone else thinks they know, run around the

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Speaker 6: footy field, all these big moves, fancy steps, slip past

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Speaker 6: as you name it. That's not the real me, you

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Speaker 6: know how I know that because I don't even know

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Speaker 6: the real me. There's a half of me missing that

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Speaker 6: I haven't found out about. I don't know my real dad,

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Speaker 6: I don't know my culture, I don't know my nationality.

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Speaker 4: How's that? How's that sunk in? Since that's gone on TV?

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Speaker 5: Bench Yeah, well I know? And right how you like

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Speaker 5: to speed things up and take out the dramatic pauses

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Speaker 5: that I actually put in the actual pitch. Mat No,

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Speaker 5: it look to me honest with you man, Like I've

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Speaker 5: never really shared that story publicly, and for some reason,

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Speaker 5: I still don't know why I did it in this thing,

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Speaker 5: but I think just throughout the series, I've made a

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Speaker 5: lot of good friends, and I've built up the confidence

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Speaker 5: to talk about it, and you know, their action that

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Speaker 5: I've had since that pitch has been quite phenomenally. A

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Speaker 5: lot of people in the same position who grew up

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Speaker 5: without knowing one of their parents or in a similar situation,

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Speaker 5: you know. And then not only that, I had a

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Speaker 5: lot of and you guys represented Katcha for life, and

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Speaker 5: I had a lot of men reach out and say, hey, bro, like,

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Speaker 5: it's so nice to see a grand man who's supposed

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Speaker 5: to be this football player express how he feels and

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Speaker 5: be vulnerable on TV.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's given me the strength to talk up and that

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Speaker 5: made me the most proud because, as you know, as men,

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Speaker 5: we don't talk or we don't express how we feel enough,

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Speaker 5: and society tells us, well, don't cry, You're a pussy,

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Speaker 5: you know, Like it's well, you're not, you know. I think,

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Speaker 5: to me, vulnerabibility is a strength and I've always thought

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Speaker 5: that and I love it. I love it, you know,

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Speaker 5: and I love the reaction from it.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the culture is changing, Benji in sport?

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Speaker 7: Because as someone who's kind of an outsider, I just

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Speaker 7: think it's so amazing that we are seeing more sports people,

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Speaker 7: sports men especially opening up more about this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Is your experience that it is kind of changing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I've always been the same since I was young,

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Speaker 5: and since I started playing footy. I've always been the

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Speaker 5: way I've been. I've always expressed my feelings, and I

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Speaker 5: did find out stages that people would laugh at you

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Speaker 5: if you cried or make a big deal of it,

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Speaker 5: which probably well didn't encourage people to share their feelings,

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Speaker 5: you know. But I do feel like that's slowly changing.

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Speaker 5: And that's not just sport, you know, that's everyone. I

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Speaker 5: often talk about it like it doesn't matter what you've

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Speaker 5: done in your life, Like, obviously I played sport for

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Speaker 5: living for a long time, but who cares if you're

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Speaker 5: a shit person behind that. You know, you don't have

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Speaker 5: good values and you don't treat people with respect, and

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Speaker 5: none of that stuff matters to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy, Hell, you're a beautiful man. Benji. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: go to a song. Can you stick around up next man? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'd love to keep talking to you. We could talk

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Speaker 4: all day, baby.

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Speaker 1: Benji marshalls a cool hang, please, I'm not a.

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Speaker 4: Cool hang with bench. He knows that, Daddy bench more

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Speaker 4: with Benji up next.

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Speaker 2: Now we have got the winner of Celebrity Apprentice, Benji

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Speaker 2: Marshall on the phone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, still here. Thanks for putting me through that song.

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Speaker 5: If you could have seen the way I was dancing

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Speaker 5: to that, you would have been like, Holy heck, get

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Speaker 5: him on Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see you on Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 1: Bench I can't.

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Speaker 5: I can't win another show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you can. Yeah you can pull a grand and

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Speaker 1: you just go on everything, win it all.

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Speaker 2: Now you've done reality TV, though, are you going to

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Speaker 2: become a reality TV expert like Ronnie?

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Speaker 5: No, that'll be the last thing I do. And please

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Speaker 5: don't compare me to him.

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Speaker 7: When Samantha Jade and Benji Marshall two were the nicest

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Speaker 7: people on the planet, both bag out the same person.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's not bagging it. But once you understand,

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Speaker 5: like what he's doing, he's been on reality TV and

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Speaker 5: he's just trying to make good TV. But I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it helped him because I think it came

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Speaker 5: a cost terribly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was just yeah, he was trying to

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Speaker 4: bring the drama. But I agree. I didn't like the

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Speaker 4: way he went about it. Too much. But enough about running.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk more about it about him now. One thing

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Speaker 2: people wouldn't have seen on TV last night, and it's

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Speaker 2: just something that's pretty funny actually because I'm very much involved.

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Speaker 2: But Will and I our charity was got You for Life,

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Speaker 2: which is an incredible mental health charity. Gussie Walling's really

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Speaker 2: involved with it. It's all about having connection or social

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Speaker 2: connection to get suicide prevention, that's their message. And it's

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Speaker 2: all about being open and vulnerable. Yeah, it's an awesome charity.

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Speaker 2: And Benji, before the show started, so Will and I

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Speaker 2: locked in Gotcha for Life as our charity, so all

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Speaker 2: the money towards Gotcha for Life. Benji Marshall was late

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Speaker 2: to reply to that email of what charity he wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Do, and his first pick was Gotcha for Life.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, and likely Benji, you've raised money for an

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Speaker 2: incredible charity in South Cheays and I know that's really

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Speaker 2: close to your heart as well. But just to compare

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Speaker 2: for the poor charity of Gotcha for Life, Will and

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Speaker 2: I raised twenty thousand.

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Speaker 1: That's a great effort of money.

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Speaker 4: And Benji, all up, how much money did you raise?

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Speaker 5: Of got to be fair though you came back and

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Speaker 5: help me in the final.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes I did, and yes something exactly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I was sad.

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Speaker 2: So something that the TV show didn't show was that

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Speaker 2: Benji called me after the finale because I did go

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Speaker 2: back to help him out with the final challenge. I'd

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Speaker 2: say I was a pretty pivotal member bench.

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Speaker 5: Would you agree, Yeah, it's very very pivotal.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you mate.

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Speaker 2: The TV didn't show that, you know, they cut all

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Speaker 2: that stuff out, but Benj you called me after the

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Speaker 2: finale and you just to thank me for getting so

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Speaker 2: involved in the finale.

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Speaker 4: He's taken thirty grand out.

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Speaker 2: Of the money that he made and he's putting thirty

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Speaker 2: thousand bucks towards Scotcha for Life.

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Speaker 5: Not your shoe though. I gave her thirty to Events

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Speaker 5: for Dementia, and I gave thirty to Bronti for Keras

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Speaker 5: Salundation in Australia, and I gave thirty to Samantha Jad's

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Speaker 5: or cancer counsel. Because you don't making me money either.

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Speaker 4: You're the bad You seriously are a bloody good dude, Benji.

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Speaker 4: And final one Max and I've got to let you go.

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Speaker 4: You've been doing media all day.

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Speaker 5: But for you brother anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, I just I just love this bromance

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 4: Dinner.

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Speaker 2: My family was actually messaging me last night watching the finale.

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Speaker 4: Being like, oh my god, you have to bring.

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Speaker 2: Benji to family dinner and then go I screenshot the

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Speaker 2: my family doing that and senate to Benji and then

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Speaker 2: screenshot back Benji going, I love your family too, and

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Speaker 2: my sister.

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Speaker 4: My sister's response was, oh my god, Benji knows I exist.

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 5: I like her comment the most, but I didn't want

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Speaker 5: it to be weird if I said I love your sister.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't an you reader, I call my brother

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Speaker 2: by Benji.

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Speaker 4: Alright, mate, I'm gonna let you go because we're gonna

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Speaker 4: keep that show. You need to get to the rest.

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Speaker 4: Bloody love your mate. We'll catch up soon.

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Speaker 5: Okay, thanks, thanks Benji, love you.

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Speaker 1: Now you're done with that.

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