WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Do You Have A Work Crush?

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany, and this is ask gun cut where we

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<v Speaker 1>answer you're deep, you're duck, and you're burning questions. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say very big thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone because this is the first episode. I know we

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<v Speaker 1>had Friday's episode come out, but this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>episode since the break news, and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>say thank you for so many really really nice messages

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<v Speaker 1>that I've received.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if you didn't get nice messages though, actually, if

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, fuck you having another baby in an

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<v Speaker 2>overpopulated world.

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<v Speaker 3>What about that one you got about twins?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, someone messaged me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, please only send me positive news stories

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<v Speaker 1>about going from two to three, because, like I told

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<v Speaker 1>you on the last episode, everyone likes to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how insane you are. And this one woman message and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, yeah, She's like, two to three sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a fucking great idea, except now I'm eighteen weeks

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant with twins. Imagine going from two to four. That

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<v Speaker 1>would just mess you right up sideways.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my really good friends that you guys know, Tany.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Tany. She listens to every episode. She'll

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<v Speaker 2>f off that. But she had child, she had two kids.

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<v Speaker 2>She was I'm in and iroing for the third. They

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<v Speaker 2>decided to She's now got four under four. She had twins.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so wid Did she just start a small business

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<v Speaker 2>like last year? You know what? Fuck it chilling, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pajama business. It's amazing. She's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>superhero moms. It's like she's an architect, works full time,

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<v Speaker 2>started a business four kids under four and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a real thing, though I can't remember where

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<v Speaker 1>I read it, but women who have babies and then

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<v Speaker 1>start businesses after becoming mums well productive. Yeah, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>real entrepreneurship that happens. And I also we're very lucky

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<v Speaker 1>with the current climate with like social media and the

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<v Speaker 1>accessibility of starting small online businesses. It's definitely a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's because having your own business obviously

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<v Speaker 1>starts as a bit of a creative idea, often during

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<v Speaker 1>maternity leave. But it's something that you can within your

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<v Speaker 1>own time, dependent on what it is, and often it's

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<v Speaker 1>these businesses that end up blowing the hell up I've

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned it before, kire Crumble. She has quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>different businesses now, but a lot of them were inspired

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<v Speaker 1>off the back of motherhood.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think even for us, like when we started.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys probably remember I started May and Move with

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<v Speaker 1>my sister, which is like a crocheted blanket brand. Mind you,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had the time to dedicate to it that

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<v Speaker 1>I probably need because of the other basillian businesses that

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<v Speaker 1>we've got going on. But I think sometimes as a mum,

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<v Speaker 1>you see a gap or you see something that you

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<v Speaker 1>would have liked yourself, and that's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>business opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess you're not sleeping anyway, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Might as well add MOUTI might as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Be doing emails while we're feeding, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the thing is And I mean maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is just talking to my friend Tiny as well, but

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<v Speaker 2>you do hear that mothers are more productive because the

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<v Speaker 2>time they have less time, so the time that they've

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<v Speaker 2>got they just knuckle down. Like I know, for her,

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<v Speaker 2>she's realized with four kids at home that she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want more autonomy and I want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do stuff at home, and I want something that's

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<v Speaker 2>more mine yeah, so I think that's really cool. I

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<v Speaker 2>also said she's an architect, so she's an engineer. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to rectify that we're best.

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<v Speaker 5>Friends actually on that though, Like Laura, I actually remember

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<v Speaker 5>you teaching me about this. It'd have to be over

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<v Speaker 5>a year ago now, but you gave me such a

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<v Speaker 5>different perspective on it in terms of employing mothers, because

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of had maybe a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 5>really wrong and a bit of a judgmental attitude that

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<v Speaker 5>if women were employed and they had kids, they had

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<v Speaker 5>priorities that were greater.

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<v Speaker 4>Than their work.

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<v Speaker 5>And I thought, well, that's always going to be the

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<v Speaker 5>case until their kids are of a certain age. And

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<v Speaker 5>you taught me, if you hire mums, they will work

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<v Speaker 5>the hardest of anyone in the room because they don't

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<v Speaker 5>have the time to fuck around.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not the ones going and getting.

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<v Speaker 5>The coffees and going and taking the extra time to

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<v Speaker 5>chat with everybody in the office, because once their worktime stops,

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<v Speaker 5>they have to parent and they will get their shit done.

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<v Speaker 3>And it really really shifted things to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, Wow, that's a perspective I hadn't thought

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<v Speaker 5>about before, and it's probably one hundred percent true.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that heralding women in that way is

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<v Speaker 3>a really really.

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<v Speaker 2>Good thing that you did.

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<v Speaker 3>You shifted my mindset on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's what I need to do, because I've got

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<v Speaker 2>all these bits and since in the back of my

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<v Speaker 2>mind and I can't start them, maybe I need to

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<v Speaker 2>get pregnant and then I'll become super successful.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, you're already super successful, breathing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the problem. You already have.

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<v Speaker 1>Businesses, but you're like, but now I need a sunglass brand.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have these two brands. It's so annoying I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got business names, I've paid for them, I've trademarked them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're sitting there and it's really annoying because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I was just taking off and then I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to say who, but somebody, very very big in

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<v Speaker 2>Australian media just launched the same business. And now I

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<v Speaker 2>know that there's room for everyone and every markets saturated.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, fucking oh, Like, if I did it

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago, I would have you know, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can't be like that. But now I've got to think,

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<v Speaker 2>do I still want to do it? Because this person,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you off air. I can't go up against

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<v Speaker 2>this person.

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<v Speaker 1>It is like, yeah, it's different when someone else is

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<v Speaker 1>doing up, but they're doing it really really well that's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're just I mean their reach and they're following

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<v Speaker 2>and who they are. Can I say we can be

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<v Speaker 2>if it's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well look, guys, knock harded to derail this back

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<v Speaker 1>to myself for a second, but genuinely, I genuinely wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to say thank you, Like I just feel so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel so loved, Like, yeah, it means so much to me,

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<v Speaker 1>how much so many of you one listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>episode two cared message, like all of the just all

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<v Speaker 1>of the love and all of the support, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel so lucky that this little baby gets to have

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<v Speaker 1>two amazing sisters. If you missed it, we're having a

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<v Speaker 1>girl yay, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Also sorry Paul Matt, you're living with you, Maley Lola.

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<v Speaker 3>But mom Ellie the cat that he didn't want a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>The cat he's got Buster, at least he's got one.

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<v Speaker 1>Other doesn't do much.

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<v Speaker 2>He's such a good boy. He just sits in the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't contribute to the testosterone.

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<v Speaker 4>He's such a good boy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, look, I mean, Matt was always destined to be

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<v Speaker 1>a girl dad, and I guess maybe we'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>big conversation about it later on, but we've spoken about

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<v Speaker 1>gender disappointment before, and I absolutely don't want to put

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<v Speaker 1>Matt into the camp of having gender disappointment. He is

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled that we are having a girl, but he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had the reaction of like, oh, okay, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>reassess my expectations around what I thought fatherhood would be

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<v Speaker 1>because he always saw himself as being a dad to

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<v Speaker 1>a boy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't plan on having another baby after this, so

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<v Speaker 4>like this is this is uh? He might have other ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's can we gret.

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<v Speaker 2>That audio and hold onto it for when number four.

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<v Speaker 1>This is us and our family complete, I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess like it was like a moment of whiplash

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<v Speaker 1>for him to get his head around, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>so so stoked that we're having another baby. He's so

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<v Speaker 1>sorry that we're having a girl, and he is the

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<v Speaker 1>best girl dad. And I think for me, I am

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<v Speaker 1>happy that it's a girl because I worry that bringing

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<v Speaker 1>a little boy into the dynamic would change the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>that he already has with our daughters and I say

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<v Speaker 1>this because you know, we have one nephew. We have

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<v Speaker 1>two nephews, sorry, but one that he spends a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time with, which is George, his sister's son, and

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<v Speaker 1>anytime where all together. And Kate has two little girls,

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<v Speaker 1>and she also has a little boy, George. Matt instantly

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<v Speaker 1>b lines and they play football, and they do all

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<v Speaker 1>these things together, and it's like, well, I would hate

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<v Speaker 1>for you to think that they're the things you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do if we had a boy, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>do those things with our girls, you know, And the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship he has with Malea and Laulu is so incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>special that I'm like, we were designed for this, you

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<v Speaker 1>were destined for this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he would change if he had a boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he'd change the way he treats the

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<v Speaker 2>girls in that sense. But I do think you can

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<v Speaker 2>have the same things running concurrently. I think that you

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<v Speaker 2>can have a level of gender disappointment and still be

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<v Speaker 2>equally thrilled, Like you can still be equally thrilled you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting a daughter and still have a level of like

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<v Speaker 2>could have been cool to dabble in something I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>dabbled in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, change of scenery would have been nice.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, I don't want to make this too deep, and

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<v Speaker 5>we can cut it if you're not comfortable with it.

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<v Speaker 5>But Matt doesn't have a relationship with his dad, and

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder if there was a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 5>subconscious thing where he wanted to be the dad too,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a figure that he never had as in

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<v Speaker 5>like I wonder if he kind of maybe wanted to parent.

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<v Speaker 2>A boy the way that he was not raised as

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<v Speaker 2>a boy.

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<v Speaker 4>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we've had big conversations not about not about

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<v Speaker 1>specifically being a dad tool boy, that being a dad

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<v Speaker 1>in general. And I think I wonder if other people

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<v Speaker 1>have experienced this, but like, there is something incredibly healing,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a big conversation about and I have had.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something incredibly healing about becoming a parent when maybe

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<v Speaker 1>your experience of your childhood wasn't the idyllic childhood upbringing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I really feel as though you get to heal

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<v Speaker 1>your own inner child by being the parent that you

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<v Speaker 1>always deserve to have. And I know that that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that Matt has felt because he's just the best dad.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the best, best dad.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, he's always said, I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the version of a dad that I didn't necessarily have,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm so proud of him. And also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it took him a second and now he's soon on board.

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<v Speaker 1>So look, guys again, thank you. It's very exciting times.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'll update you and all of the gory

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<v Speaker 1>details along the way.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to be thrilled about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh, we are so much more content now.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank god we were running drive.

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<v Speaker 5>I can actually talk about it because there were so

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<v Speaker 5>many things going on in your personal life and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I just I can't share that yet. So yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to get the backlog of all the funny stories I.

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<v Speaker 2>Did, like, I genuinely loved going through all the guesses

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<v Speaker 2>of what was going to be on the Instagram post

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<v Speaker 2>like that was really fun. The people that thought all

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<v Speaker 2>three of us were having babies simultaneously, that was very optimistic.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know on the same day, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how we would survive that.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, that would be one situation where the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast would really struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know what would have happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how we would have survived that, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably as exciting as that would have been. Be grateful

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<v Speaker 2>that we're all not having babies simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the second biggest guess was that Britt is

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<v Speaker 1>now already married and she's moved to Italy. Those things,

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<v Speaker 1>those things are going to happen, like that's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>next big news that we have, like when we're teasing

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<v Speaker 1>an announcement, but realistically, well you have just the beginnings.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Laura. I was holding on to that. Thanks. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was exciting. I also did love the person that

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<v Speaker 2>wanted Ben to come on as a co host. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that that was cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, it really hit home with someone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do want to also validate a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people were talking about cloud, which I know that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to bait you with the cloud in the.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't think it's sorry, we're not thoughtful enough to

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<v Speaker 3>do Easter eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not Taylor Swift, guys. I was just looking

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<v Speaker 1>for I was in a rush. I was also trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get food into both kids. It was soft, it

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<v Speaker 1>looked nice, and you know what, it was a template

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<v Speaker 1>in canvas that we used a long time ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like that'll do, Pig, that'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually were all speaking in our messages being like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>we really didn't think that one through. Like we definitely

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<v Speaker 2>did bait that it was something to do with Cloud,

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<v Speaker 2>but we didn't. No one knew, No one knew that

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we were baiting.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't even cross our mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, if you haven't listened to Cloud, listen, go

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<v Speaker 1>and listen. It is a fantastic podcast that we created.

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<v Speaker 1>Keisha created it, she's hosted it, she's produced it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is all about living with adhd adhd like diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fucking girl podcast. Don't get that in your ears.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, speaking of recommendation, should we get into vibes, I

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<v Speaker 5>thought you were going to recommend your pop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna recommend her again. Yeah, look, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to kick start then without two weeks like overseas and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I man, I watched some stuff like the Plane thirty

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<v Speaker 2>hours traveling. I download all a bunch of stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>I just watch whole series.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I say?

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<v Speaker 1>I had planned on trying to get through a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of seasons of I just wanted to watch White Lotus.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to watch it whilst I was on holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>I still haven't watched it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch a single thing, not one thing on holiday.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I did though.

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<v Speaker 2>We just, I guess in family stuff, which is probably

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<v Speaker 2>better than more dolphins.

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<v Speaker 3>You were very connected around it, and you should.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually don't know what I did. I can't tell

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<v Speaker 4>you one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you because you would send me photos you Laura

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<v Speaker 2>would send me photo of her at the beach, be

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm so free, I'm going to move here and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like an empty beach and I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>see you back in the city next week. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like what she always saw that she goes this is

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<v Speaker 2>freedom and I was like, who are.

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<v Speaker 4>You SHEDFOI has literally like making sand angels.

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<v Speaker 2>She was on the ground making angels and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just love it here, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm born to be in the country. I'm not born

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<v Speaker 4>to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm born to be on the Italian on

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<v Speaker 2>a yacht.

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<v Speaker 4>But we all have what we want, all right, recommendations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so you so season five of you? We all

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<v Speaker 2>know what you is. Literally there's five seasons. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the final season. It came out like in the last

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks. It's really fresh. But I downloaded it straight

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<v Speaker 2>away and watched the entire thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So many episodes are we talking.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's eight ten max eight, But it's see

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<v Speaker 5>what you can achieved when you're not doing sand angels.

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<v Speaker 2>I see what you can achieve when you're on a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty hour flight. So if you've seen the reviews, it

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<v Speaker 2>is getting mixed reviews. And I went through each season,

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<v Speaker 2>so season one to five basically got like in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of percentage ratings, ninety five percent, ninety three percent, eighty

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<v Speaker 2>nine percent, like they sort of went down a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think this one's the lowest, seventy nine percent

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<v Speaker 2>or something. But I loved it. I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>What I will say is it was and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can feel it both things at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was very frustrated by the choices the character's made.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you want to scream at a TV

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<v Speaker 2>like you're like, well, what did you think was going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen? Like that's what I was saying. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course you're going to get murdered, Like why did

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<v Speaker 2>you do that? So you get this real frustration with

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<v Speaker 2>the characters, but it wasn't enough to not make you

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<v Speaker 2>want to watch it like you wanted to see it through.

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<v Speaker 4>You just victim blame the characters.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. I victim blamed. No, I wait, you

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<v Speaker 2>see it. Wait, you're like you idiot, I won't. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to. You have to. It has to come.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things that has to come full circle.

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<v Speaker 4>And I haven't seen anything since season one.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched all of season one and I loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I haven't seen any of the other seasons, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm now overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've put Ben onto it. Ben's going to watch

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<v Speaker 2>all five seasons. And I think it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things that if you've ever watched one or two seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>just finish it, just go through, watch them all. So

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it. It's definitely done. There is no room

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<v Speaker 2>for another season, and there shouldn't be, like it's run

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<v Speaker 2>its course.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you feel as though it's receiving negative backlash

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<v Speaker 1>this season verse the other four?

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<v Speaker 2>I think because it's done. I think because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>we've explored so many storylines and almost getting a bit

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<v Speaker 2>unfathomable now, like this one is a bit almost a

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<v Speaker 2>bit fantastical. You're like, right, yeah, it's a bit like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think Penn Bagley, who is the lead, is brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's very.

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<v Speaker 5>Good, and I think he was perfectly cast. So he'll

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<v Speaker 5>always be danned from Gossip Girl totally. I saw that

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<v Speaker 5>he went on Call Her Daddy last week as well,

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<v Speaker 5>so yeah, let's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Promote the biggest podcast in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trure he'll be on Life on Card next week,

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<v Speaker 4>Key Show. What to vibe.

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<v Speaker 5>My vibe of this week is because I traveled internationally

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<v Speaker 5>a week and a half ago, and this is something

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<v Speaker 5>that I've had for the past, I reckon maybe eleven years,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's a travel money card now mina through the

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<v Speaker 5>Commonwealth Bank because I bank with them, and this is

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<v Speaker 5>not an ad I have had these cards for as

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<v Speaker 5>long as I can remember. I remember not paying for them,

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<v Speaker 5>so I'm assuming that that's because I am a comm

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<v Speaker 5>Bank member already. I don't know how much it would

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<v Speaker 5>cost to just get one of these if you don't

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<v Speaker 5>bank with them, but I can't imagine it being much. Basically,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a prepaid visa card and it means that you

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<v Speaker 5>get no international transaction fees. So the way it works

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<v Speaker 5>for me is that it just as an additional bank

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<v Speaker 5>account in my set of bank accounts, so I can

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<v Speaker 5>transfer immediately, and I can also transfer out of it

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<v Speaker 5>immediately if I was to lose one of the cards

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever. I load it with Australian money whenever I

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<v Speaker 5>use it in no matter what country I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>If I haven't.

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<v Speaker 5>Preloaded that particular currency, it will just take the day

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<v Speaker 5>exchange rate for that day and it will just transfer

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<v Speaker 5>it on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always put just Australian money in it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure if you were smart enough or if you

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<v Speaker 5>were kind of checked in enough to notice when there

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<v Speaker 5>was a really good exchange rate, you can actually convert

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<v Speaker 5>some of the money into euro or you know, British

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<v Speaker 5>pound or whatever it might be that you need. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not really that organized, though, so I just go with

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<v Speaker 5>the day rate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really easy.

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<v Speaker 5>No international transaction fees. So yeah, I've been using them

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<v Speaker 5>for as long as I've traveled internationally. And I was

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<v Speaker 5>just reminded about it because we went on the weekend

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<v Speaker 5>and my boyfriend was talking about having to unlock his

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<v Speaker 5>credit card, and I was like, Oh nah, don't worry

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<v Speaker 5>about that. Like we'll just use the travel cards. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's pretty safe. You can just put small amount of

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<v Speaker 5>money in there. And like I said, if there was

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<v Speaker 5>ever an emergency and you needed a large amount of money,

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<v Speaker 5>because I can just transfer immediately, it's really convenient for me.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, if you're traveling and you want a travel

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<v Speaker 5>money card, I really recommend the Combank ones I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>that other banks would have their own versions.

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<v Speaker 4>That is to be fair. My number one Achilles Heel.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you go to Indonesia or you're traveling through Bali,

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<v Speaker 1>the ATMs work differently there. So in Australia they give

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<v Speaker 1>you your card back, then they give you your cash.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how they work.

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<v Speaker 1>In Indonesia, they give you your cash, then they give

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<v Speaker 1>you your card.

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<v Speaker 2>And you walk away with it and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it says the problem is is it doesn't cancel

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<v Speaker 1>the transaction. Something pops up on screen which says do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to continue with your transaction? And all it

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<v Speaker 1>takes is for someone to be behind you go and

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<v Speaker 1>press yes. So the amount of times, and it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing how many times it's happen, because you would think

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<v Speaker 1>I would learn I have lost my card and I

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<v Speaker 1>have had lots of money deducted from my account, which

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<v Speaker 1>I then had to go through insurance for. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute ball ake, and it's usually because I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a few it's something out of the club.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get a car that you can attack.

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<v Speaker 5>It's also if you don't have to have the cash

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<v Speaker 5>on you, which in Bali I usually do get some

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<v Speaker 5>cash because some places are there only take cash. But

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<v Speaker 5>if you don't have to have the cash on you, you

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<v Speaker 5>can just tap your card at restaurants and that which

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<v Speaker 5>is great.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am with Iron g Irong if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are with them. They're a bank that like doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>an actual physical bank bank, so it's like all online.

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't charge transaction fees for international so anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the world that you are that you want to tap, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what it does is it charges it but then puts

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<v Speaker 2>it straight back in. So that's also like a good

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<v Speaker 2>thing too.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, look, I have a recommendation guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the Easter holiday, a really good friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>Mel she came and she was she spent Easter with us,

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<v Speaker 1>her and her little boy and her husband Enzo and

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<v Speaker 1>we had a great time as friends, and she has thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not swinging or thanks for clarification. My recommendation

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<v Speaker 2>is the friends, very very platonic friend to hang out,

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<v Speaker 2>get your keys and a bowl. Renovated this house down

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<v Speaker 2>south so she can just go have sex parties. She

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't told no.

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<v Speaker 1>Look. The reason why I'm recommending it is because she

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<v Speaker 1>has an Instagram page. She's a fantastic cook, like an

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<v Speaker 1>exceptional cook, and she has an Instagram page where she

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<v Speaker 1>has really awesome snacks foods that she creates. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them are great if you're a parent and

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<v Speaker 1>you're wanting to get like healthy meals or healthy snacks

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<v Speaker 1>for your kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking muffins.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking like faux sweet treats that aren't actually sweet treats.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been created in a really incredibly healthy way. The

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<v Speaker 1>recipes are really simple. And this recipe that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to recommend is one that she made for the kids

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<v Speaker 1>on Easter Day. It was a pancake recipe. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I am pretty bad with cooking. I'm like a go

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<v Speaker 1>to the shops, get a water pancake mix that you

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<v Speaker 1>shake up and down and pour it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, obviously that's what i'd do, whereas that horrified mel So.

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<v Speaker 1>Firstly, the Instagram page for you to all go and

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<v Speaker 1>follow is called PW Pantry. That's where she has all

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<v Speaker 1>of her recipes. The food looks absolutely insane. But this

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<v Speaker 1>specific recipe, and I'm gonna read it out to you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can kind of like jot it down.

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<v Speaker 4>Now. It's two eggs, one luge banana.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're going to say the recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy. There's only like six ingredients. Hear me out,

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<v Speaker 1>give me time. Two eggs, one luge banana, three quarter

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<v Speaker 1>cup of oats, half a teaspoon of baking soda, a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny bit of cinnamon, and a few dashes of coconut milk.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you add whatever vegetable you want, so she added

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<v Speaker 1>spinach to it. You could add zucchini, or you could

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<v Speaker 1>add beetroot and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Pancake.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hear me out.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, whatever whatever vegetable you add is the color. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you want pink pancakes, add a bit of beetroot.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want green pancakes, which is what we had,

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<v Speaker 1>she added spinach.

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<v Speaker 4>Blitz it all in just a neutral bullet, like just chuckle.

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<v Speaker 1>Those ingredients in, smash it in a nutra bullet, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have the most amazing, delicious, healthy pancakes for kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, don't stress if you didn't write Laura's recipe down,

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<v Speaker 2>we will link it in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Note we will, but I specifically now have this printed

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<v Speaker 1>out and put it on our fridge.

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<v Speaker 4>Melmegs it like twice a week, and I am following.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm following in soup because I can't cook, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can cook this, and I'm proud of myself. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go give it a follow Pew Pantry. Especially you're a

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<v Speaker 1>mum and you're wanting to, like are a parent, you're

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to make better food for your kids. I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>it so much. She's a fucking great cook. Anyways, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into the questions. Question number one. Five months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>my fiance and I broke up. We have a one

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<v Speaker 1>point five year old one and a half year old

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<v Speaker 1>boy together and are doing our best to stay civil

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<v Speaker 1>for our child. When we broke up, my ex asked

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<v Speaker 1>that I introduce any new partners or potential step dads

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<v Speaker 1>to him, my ex, before I introduce them to our son.

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<v Speaker 1>I agreed, and I asked for the same in return,

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<v Speaker 1>But I recently met a really nice guy who has

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<v Speaker 1>major potential to be my future, but it has me

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that I want to experience what he is like

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<v Speaker 1>around and with my son before I tell my ex

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm seeing someone. I have mixed emotions, as I

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<v Speaker 1>do understand where my ex is coming from, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also don't want to have to tell my ex when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing someone, as this could potentially just happen again

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<v Speaker 1>and again and again if this guy doesn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>Please help a girl out. What do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>the best option in here. I'm happy to have the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with my ex if the situation needs to change,

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<v Speaker 1>but I genuinely don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I obviously have never been in this situation, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have pretty clear, strong feelings about it, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely you need to stick by the agreement you've had

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<v Speaker 2>with your ex. If you have said to your ex

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<v Speaker 2>both of you have agreed that you are going to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you're introducing everyone before you introduce him to

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<v Speaker 2>the child, then you stick by that. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even think that's something that you should have to stick

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<v Speaker 2>by because you've said you've signed it. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that's something you should do any way out of respect,

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<v Speaker 2>like you would want the same thing. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you flip the tables, if you found out that

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<v Speaker 2>he had his new girlfriend and she had been around

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<v Speaker 2>your kids for months before you knew, I imagine you would flip.

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<v Speaker 2>You would be like, I don't know who this person

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<v Speaker 2>is that he's hanging around, and I think that he

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<v Speaker 2>would feel exactly the same. I don't think there's much

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<v Speaker 2>room for discussion here, and especially if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>maintain a really civil co parenting relationship, you can't be

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<v Speaker 2>breaking the first major and most important rule that you've

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<v Speaker 2>set as a co parenting couple totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, that doesn't mean that you can't reassess the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>You are absolutely allowed to have a conversation with your

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<v Speaker 1>ex where you're like, hey, I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this decision that we made because I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I fully agree with it. Have a conversation about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't get to just lie and then make

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<v Speaker 1>up a new rule because you've decided that now it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't suit you anymore. And I think that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of respect to your ex partner. It's a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of respect to your co parenting arrangement that you have

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<v Speaker 1>settled on, and also if it is your priority to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that you maintain this really civil respect for each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and also, like you know, for how you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>navigate this next period of life, I really think you

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<v Speaker 1>owe it to honoring the agreements that you made. I also,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I want to say, I understand that you're

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<v Speaker 1>at a point where you're like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>just have to tell my ex about every single person

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing. And also you don't have to tell your

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<v Speaker 1>X about every single person you're seeing. But you also

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to introduce your kid to every single person

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing either, I think and I know. Firstly, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's really hard when you have a really young

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<v Speaker 1>child to find the time to date, and often that

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<v Speaker 1>means that kids get introduced to new partners earlier than

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you might want to. But also I would really

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<v Speaker 1>recommend thinking about what works best for you but also

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the best thing for your kids

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<v Speaker 1>later on. Because yes, your boy is only one point

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<v Speaker 1>five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop saying one point five. I can't pin you.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, Yes he's only one and a half, which means

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<v Speaker 1>that he's not verbal enough to tell, you know, his dad,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you're going to get away with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>there will come a time where this kid registers that

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<v Speaker 1>mum has a lot of friends that she's introduced to,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say this, and maybe I have a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more of a bias.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it is probably the right word.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up, I grew up in a family with loss

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<v Speaker 1>of divorce. My mum was divorced twice. My dad was

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<v Speaker 1>also divorced twice. Both of them married three times. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my mum dated, you know, she always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had a partner or a boyfriend, and a lot

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>of them are really nice. You know. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any animosity around the people that she was dating. But

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<v Speaker 1>you do get introduced to these people that you're dating,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden they're no longer a

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<v Speaker 1>part of your life, and there is a weird emotional

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>whiplash that happens. And there is this blueprint that you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting down on your kids, and you're creating in your

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<v Speaker 1>kids around what relationships look like. And I if I

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<v Speaker 1>was to ever go through that as a parent, I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely don't think I would be introducing my children to

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<v Speaker 1>anyone until I was absolutely certain that they were worthy

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<v Speaker 1>of meeting my kids, and that's how I would approach it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think the difference here is and I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't say the difference, but I understand what she's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>What she's saying is I already know that I want

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<v Speaker 2>him to be part of my future, but the way

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<v Speaker 2>he is around my son is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>very telling sign. And I absolutely agree with that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody can be amazing, but you need to see the

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<v Speaker 2>way they act around your kids, but better tell. But

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean you still have to break the rules,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you still have to do the right thing by

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<v Speaker 2>your son and by your relationship with this new person,

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<v Speaker 2>and by your relationship with your ex. Unfortunately, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this comes with the territory of having a child

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<v Speaker 2>and being in a divorced relationship. I understand I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to run to my ex all the time to

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<v Speaker 2>and have him knowing that I'm seeing someone. He knows

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<v Speaker 2>now it failed. Now he knows I'm seeing someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just part and parcel, and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>comes with a territory. It's unfortunate, but you've said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what would we do in that situation, I would

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<v Speaker 2>be doing the right thing by my ex because if

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<v Speaker 2>you and like I have people very close to me

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<v Speaker 2>in my life where that relationship between xes has and

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<v Speaker 2>the kids involved has gone sour and it just sets

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<v Speaker 2>the tone for the rest of.

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<v Speaker 1>Your life lighteen years. Yeah, like I tel that kid

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<v Speaker 1>no longer is part of chance support you. Yeah, absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>ruin your ability to co parent amicably.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you get each other offside early. From my

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<v Speaker 2>experience of what I'm seeing, when your parents that have

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<v Speaker 2>disagreed on something, like when you're co parenting, you've disagreed

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 2>on something, people seem to hold onto that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more and then they start to use it as tip

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<v Speaker 2>for tat. So I think he need to be as

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<v Speaker 2>like amicable and honest and open as possible in every

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<v Speaker 2>relationship because that is what your future depends on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I guess the only thing I want to

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>add to that is, like you know, you've said, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see and I want to experience what he

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<v Speaker 1>is like around and with my son before I tell

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<v Speaker 1>my ex that I'm seeing someone. Firstly, I probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be just introducing someone that you're quote unquote seeing. I

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<v Speaker 1>would be introducing someone who you've made a commitment to

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that there's someone that you Okay, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not seeing anyone else. I'm not seeing anyone else. We

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<v Speaker 1>are committed to seeing if this has potential and could work. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be one hundred percent has to be And secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think your child should be the road test

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<v Speaker 1>for that, Like I don't think that you test it

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<v Speaker 1>out and see how they are with your kid before

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you have conversations with other people in your life, because

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>it's very possible to sit down and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I am seeing someone.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a great guy.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, I am going to introduce him to

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>our child. But I want you to know that if

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't work out, well, my absolute main priority is

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>how he treats our boy, and if he doesn't live

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>up to my expectations around that, he won't be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of my life. That just once again proves that

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>your priority isn't your dating life. Your priority is your kids.

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think that it's easy for us to sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and dish out advice. We haven't gone through divorces.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not trying to navigate what it's like having a

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<v Speaker 1>really little kid and also have a dating life. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I wanted to say the caveat of like

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<v Speaker 1>me having a bias. I know what it's like being

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a kid and having a parent who is dating and

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is proactively dating, and it can be really really hard.

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 4>It can be really hard. So yeah, good luck with

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 4>that one.

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>That's I mean, And if anyone else is doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to know how you've managed to navigate

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<v Speaker 1>this slide into the DMS, because I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a question that people are going to have really conflicting

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>experiences and feelings about.

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I actually don't agree with that. I don't think there's

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 2>going to be that much conflict with this, So I

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>think most people will say what we've said, if you've

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<v Speaker 2>had an agreement with your partner, you need to stick

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to that. Yes, like you said at the beginning of this,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to rehash what those rules look like

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 2>in your separation and the boundaries, and that's fine, But

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 2>for now, I think it's a pretty black and white

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 2>statement to say if you've agreed on something with a

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>partner that has a kid involved, that you can't scoot

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>around that and change it. Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, Question number

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<v Speaker 2>two harmless crush when married? Is this normal? I have

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<v Speaker 2>strong feelings about this one. I got married recently and

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 2>absolutely adore my husband. I cannot fault our relationship at all. However,

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I am a nurse at a hospital and have found

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>myself attracted to one of the surgeons at work. I've

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>always thought he is a massive deal, which is a

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 2>dad i'd like to fuck. But I found myself recently

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 2>thinking about him even when I'm not at work. I

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>would never act on these feelings at all, and I

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>genuinely think they are just like an attraction and lust

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>just because he's sexy. We do work together a bit,

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and I found myself getting excited when he comes in

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to see his patients or when I'm assisting him in

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>theater with a surgery for one of his patients. My

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 2>question is is this normal? Is it just like a

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>harmless little crush, sort of like a forbidden free or

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>a fantasy because I know nothing will ever happen. He

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>is also married and has kids. I should say it

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 2>also feels sort of wrong thinking about him when I'm

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 2>not at work. So is this part normal? Any advice

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>he is appreciated. PS? No, this is a bit that

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>gets me. I don't want to tell my husband about

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>this at all, because even though it's harmless, I know

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 2>it will upset him and maybe cause a rift in

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>the relationship for literally no reason. I just want your

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 2>thoughts about why I keep thinking about this doctor. And

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>when I say thoughts, to be clear, they are mostly sexual,

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 2>which makes me do think it's just a weird fantasy.

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Don't tell your husband, like the husband, Your husband doesn't

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>need to know.

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>You're fantasizing about fucking the doctor.

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, you're allowed to have fantasies, you know some

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>people Actually no, I was I say, some people might disagree.

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 4>I fucking doubt it.

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>You are not able to have a fantasy, allowed to

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>have thoughts. Thoughts are not real, they are not based

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in it can be yeah, but they're not based in action,

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean. There is a very

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>big difference between thinking, oh my god, that guy's hot.

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>That's a fantasy, and that's where it ends like, hey, like,

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to have those thoughts and those feelings. I

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>would put money on the fact that your husband's probably

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>had some of them at some point as well. That

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>is a very very different experience than going and being

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like I'm so attracted to them and pursuing them. Right,

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a totally different thing. Don't punish yourself over having

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a fantasy. Also, probably don't overanalyze it, because the more

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that you try and tell yourself not to think about something,

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the more you tell yourself that something is forbidden and

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>it's naughty and oh my god, like am I a

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>bad person for doing this, the more that your brain

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to think about the thing that you're telling

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>yourself you can't think about. Like if I say orangers,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to think about oranges. I bet you

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>right now, everyone's thinking about an orange. Like it's just

0:30:58.240 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>how the brain works.

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about fucking it. Not I'm joking with orange?

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 4>An orange? Doctor mine is I.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Was a joking Gase Ben was listening.

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>No, But I just think like, we're allowed to have fantasies,

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to have a crush, You're allowed to have

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>someone that kind of makes you go ooh when they

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>come in at the office. I don't think that that

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>is something that you should be ashamed about or necessarily

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>super super worried about. Obviously, it can err into a

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>territory where it becomes a problem. Sounds like from what

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you've said, it's not there yet, So I would say,

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>just maybe don't worry about it as much as you are,

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and know that you absolutely don't have to tell your

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>husband thoughts that you're having about a guy that you

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>work with.

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel differently, Oh, you thinking she needs to tell him? Fuck? No, No,

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>not about that. I thought I made that clear. Don't

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 2>tell your husband and you've got a crush on that

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>you think about having sex with someone you work with

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 2>every day? No, I feel differently that I don't think

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 2>this is necessarily as harmless as you think. And I

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 2>want to say this because I have so much skin

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 2>in the game. I worked in an operating theater for

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 2>thirteen years. I dated doctors. I work so closely with doctors.

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I know even the way she's talking about how she

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 2>assists the doctor in theater. I've been there, I've done that,

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it. The reason I worry about this is because,

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not blanket statement in.

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 4>At all surgeons and noises.

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>A lot of surgeons cheat people that are married with kids.

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I have seen it so many times my partner, many

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 2>many moons ago. I dated a surgeon he also cheated.

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Also kid, Yes, yeah, I ha data surgeon, he cheated

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot. But also, can we just please put out

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>there are going to be a lot of people listening

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to this who are married to surgeons or who are surgeons,

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and they don't cheat.

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>That's why I said, it's not a blanket statement.

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 4>It's not if you're a surgeon, you're a cheat.

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:40.719
<v Speaker 3>Up.

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people cheat.

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you know there are stereotypes that exist in

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 5>the medical world for good reason.

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Story types exist in aviation that exist.

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 4>In military, do you know what I mean?

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Like, there are a lot of stereotypes and there are

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 3>reasons for this.

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing the stereotypes is, and I just want

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:57.479
<v Speaker 2>to say this just as much there are a lot

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>of surgeons, I know he families that are the best

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 2>husbands and dads. Ever, like I'm not sanely all do it.

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 2>The reason these stereotypes in things like aviation and things

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>like surgeons exist is because the opportunity exists. Surgeons work

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.479
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours a day, they're always on call, they

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>sleep at hospitals. It's just it's they're married to their job, right,

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>And so I'm not blanket statementing, but and.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>They're also potentially people that are deemed as desirable because

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>of their occupations, so like they may have more opportunities

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to dating or it comes so you know,

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>people being interested in them.

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>But the reason I want to say that, I don't

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 2>think it's necessarily completely harmless. And I'm not saying this

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 2>because I think that you will do anything. That's not

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. But I start to worry about this

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>situation because is it normal to like have fantasies about people? Absolutely?

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Is it normal to imagine having sex with someone else?

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 4>Sure?

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Like that is human nature to be attracted to other people.

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>You can appreciate a beautiful human walking down the street

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>or that you work with, Like, that's all fine. I

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>worry about this for you because you start to get

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 2>really excited when he comes into the room and you

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>think about him outside of work sexual. That is where

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, he's taking up too much brain space.

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 2>When he walks into a room and you're with a

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>patient or something, you're physically in contact with him and

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 2>having these interactions, and it's normal to want to flirt.

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 2>A people flirt all the time, and it's normal to

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>have that, right when you're going home to your husband

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 2>and you're finding those intrusive thoughts coming into your personal

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 2>life and it's still sexual, that's when I start to worry,

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 2>because that's when my personal opinion is, if you've just

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 2>married somebody, another man that you have contact with every

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>single day, shouldn't be infiltrating your home life and your

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 2>home thoughts like fantasies. You can't help what you dream about,

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 2>and you can't help the way you feel when someone

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>walks into a room, but if you are starting to

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>develop those feelings, and let's be real, unfortunately we exist

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 2>in a society, especially in hospitals, where it could be

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 2>more likely than not that you spend more time at

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 2>work with this person than your husband, Like some people

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 2>go to work for twelve fourteen hours, you come home

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 2>by dinner, and you go to sleep, Like there's a

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>high chance you might be interacting more on a day

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 2>to day level with this person, and maybe that's why

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 2>the thoughts infiltrate more. But I know you can't say

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to think about him, But you can

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>definitely control your interactions at work and the way you interact,

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 2>and you can definitely try and draw that line again

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 2>and make it a bit more professional. I would be

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 2>personally trying to do that.

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's my question though, because there's nothing in

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>here that she has said that implies that the way

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that she is behaving or they are interacting is anything

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>but professional. There's no indication of flirting, and if there was,

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>she would have said that. She hasn't said that there's flirting.

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>She hasn't said that there is anything that he is

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>doing or she is doing to indicate a feeling of like,

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he's so hot.

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I of course not, but there's always a line that

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 2>you can draw more in a room if you are

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to assume there is flirting. That's an assumption.

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Totally, which if there is, then that's a line that's

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>been crossed. And like, I'm going off what's been written

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>in this, and that is not indicating any flirting. So

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't see this as like a massive

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>red flag that you need to do anything about right

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>now if things change, absolutely. But my kind of big

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>take home from this is like you're aware of it,

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>You're very conscious that you're not going to act on it.

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>You're also saying you're very conscious that he's not going

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to act on it and it is just an internal thought.

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm kind of like, well, if it's just

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>an internal thought, you're not going to fuck up your

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>career or fuck up your relationship because you had a

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>sex dream about someone and you think about them and

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it gets you off.

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 4>Like, I don't know, I'm just kind of like.

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>No, But it's more than that. She's not dreaming about him,

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 2>she's consciously thinking about him at home. And she even

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>says like, I'm starting to be worried. It feels sort

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 2>of wrong thinking about him when I'm not at work.

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I understand why you're feeling that way because you have

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>realized that it has crossed the lining personally for you.

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying you've crossed the line, but like you

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 2>have recognized that, Oh okay, I've taken this home with me.

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 4>Now, that's weird to think about him sexually when you're

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 4>at work, though.

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's hot. It's hot doctors operating and start.

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 2>Trust me, Like, when you're in there and you're seeing

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 2>someone save a life, you're like hot, Like, I understand

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>why people cheat all the time.

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but I don't know I'm kind of like,

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>she thinks the guy is sexy, and then when she's

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm like, not that worried about it.

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.240
<v Speaker 3>My boyfriend has scrub caps that have his name printed

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 3>on the front of them.

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>They're not hot. I disagree. I think a surgeon is

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 2>so much scrubs. They're crocs in there. They're saving lives.

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Like there's something when you were seeing someone save the life,

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 2>it is hot. Trust me, even if they're not hot,

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 2>the situation's hot. You're like, oh, you just like literally

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 2>brought that person back that way cool.

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I would be interested to chat to someone who's like

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>a sex ologist about this, because I think that people

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.879
<v Speaker 1>do need alternate stimulation. I'm sure that there are other

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 1>people out there who can't just get off only thinking

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>about their husband and from time to time, I agree

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to be like I saw that hot guy and now

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I have a fantasy about this.

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make it real, my fair but I agree

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 2>with that. But that's not the same person that you

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 2>see every day. It's not the fantasy that you get off.

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 2>It's not Jason Momoa once and then the next is

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Leonardo DiCaprio. This is a real life person. That you're

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 2>in contact with, that it could happen with realistically, and

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 2>it's the same stimulus. But that's where my worry comes from.

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Like if Ben told me that he was getting off

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>sometimes like he's if I asked him and he's like, yeah,

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I think Scarlet Johansson or or sometimes I think

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 2>of a hot actress or something I've seen. If he

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 2>said that, I'd like, yeah, okay. If he said yeah,

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I think about the girl at work that works at

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>reception at football and I think about her every time,

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, what the fuck? Like you think about

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 2>someone that you see every day, that's who you're thinking

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 2>about every night.

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>With that, that's different, of course, but no one's ever

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>going to tell you their thoughts. What I'm trying to

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>say is is like I am sure there are people

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>out there who have great relationships, but they have a

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>specific fantasy that they know they're never going to play

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>out that would exist, and it doesn't mean that they're

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>bad in their relationship.

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't mean that they're not.

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, we'll just disagree on this one, and yes

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.399
<v Speaker 1>it would hurt. But the thing is is Ben might

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>He's never going to tell you. Britt He's not about that.

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not about the telling. It's about what happens when

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:00.879
<v Speaker 1>that has infiltrated your life if you do not know

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>what will happen. I know you said he's married with kids, right,

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>That does not mean that he might not have issues

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>in one day hit on you. Doesn't mean that he

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel the same connection. It doesn't mean that in

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a year, two years, five years, something's going to change.

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Like the fact you're saying, is it normal to think

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 2>about the same person sexually at home in my marriage

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 2>when I see them every day, I'm going to say no,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say that that one person that has

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 2>become your fantasy that you connect with every day, I

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 2>would start to be trying to peel back from that.

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Fantasies are normal, yes, but it's different when it could

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>become a reality and you spend so much time with someone.

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm like, Okay, you do need to draw

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:38.720
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a line in the sand.

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I guess like the way I sit slightly

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>different on this is that I do believe that fantasies

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.359
<v Speaker 1>can live as purely fantasies, and even if the opportunity

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>presented itself to you that you are able to have

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 1>enough self preservation and also self control that even if

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 1>you had a fantasy, you'd never do it anyway, because

0:39:57.800 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>sometimes fantasies and what actually.

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Exists in real life are very fucking different.

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.280
<v Speaker 2>But the husband things weird, like don't Yeah, you definitely

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 2>don't tell him. I don't tell him, Like that's weird,

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Like you just would that would never come up in conversations.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, interesting, Like I said, love to know people's thoughts

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 4>on this.

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely know that there will be people who feel

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same as you, because the reality is, no

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 1>one would want to know that their partner is having

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>those thoughts and feelings. The reality, though, on the flip

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>side of it, is I bet you a lot of

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 1>people's partners are, but they would never act on it,

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't mean that they love you less. So

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>let's not conflate thoughts with actual reality either, is probably

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to say. Yeah, anyway, okay. Question number three,

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.240
<v Speaker 1>is it rude not to wish kids a happy birthday?

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 4>These days?

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Are they your own kids?

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's weird. A happy birthday is still a thing.

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>My son just turned to and I'm a little bit

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.959
<v Speaker 1>upset at the lack of friends and family that took

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the time to message me or call to see him

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and say happy birthday. My partner seems to think that

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>life just gets busy and people sometimes remember but then

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>forget to do anything about it. But I think if

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>someone really means something to you, then they have no

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 1>excuse to make the effort over the top me makes

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>me not want to take my son to see these people,

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>particularly family members who can't even say a simple happy

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Birthday to him. Obviously I would never do that, but

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>still I just feel sad for him, and I'm not

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>really sure why.

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 2>We answered something similar about the girl that is pregnant

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 2>and she was upset that not enough friends and family

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>were like asking how she is and checking in. And

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I find this a similar question in my brain. And again,

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't have kids, so I can't imagine how I'm

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 2>going to feel. Maybe I'll feel very differently when I

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 2>have kids and if no one calls and says happy birthday.

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 2>But for me, it does sound extreme to say I

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 2>don't want to take my kid to see people that

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't call up and wish him happy birthday. And maybe

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>that's because like, I'm not proud of it, but I

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of nieces and nephews that I don't

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 2>call up for their birthdays either, Like how holy they at?

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 4>What age do you start? Because there is an age

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 4>that you should start.

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, what my family has started to do. We're in

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 2>like a huge family group chat because I have a

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 2>lot I have four brothers and sisters. They all have

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.760
<v Speaker 2>multiple kids. Like, there's a lot of kids in my family.

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 2>And we start to like video record messages and we

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:09.879
<v Speaker 2>put them in the family group chat and then show

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 2>them and then like the nephews and nieces will video

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 2>record a message back and then they'll put it in there.

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 2>So that's the way we've started to communicate. But at

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 2>two years old, he doesn't know which way's up. He

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know if anyone's calling him. He's not going to

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 2>be upset that. I think that that is an unnecessary

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 2>stress that you are feeling and putting on yourself and

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>creating by saying, you know what, fuck you, I'm not

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.720
<v Speaker 2>going to take my kid to see anyone else. But again,

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I might feel differently when I've had a kid and

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.239
<v Speaker 2>if no one calls it happy birthday, But for me,

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 2>it's not a big deal. I don't care if no

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:37.240
<v Speaker 2>one calls me on my birthday.

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not though, like I don't care, to be honest,

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like I think as your kids get older, you care

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>more because you don't want your kids to be disappointed.

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Everyone is different.

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I could not care if someone doesn't text me about

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>my kids first or second or third birthday. Our third's

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>probably like they know, but first or second birthday because

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>that text message isn't for them, that's for me.

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 4>They can't read.

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 1>They don't say any Britney sent you a text message, sweetie,

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know you ever pass that on?

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 4>Like, I don't think you have a did.

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't I send videos?

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so like if it's a video, obviously Male and

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Lola now are older, we sent a.

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Video for this last birthday for them.

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they understand. How guilty they understand now it's different.

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think, like when your kids are really really little,

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 1>unless like you're actually seeing them or it's a phone call.

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I kind of think a text is a bit of

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a it's a bit of a lack of effort.

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 4>A text doesn't do anything.

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 5>Do you think it depends on the proximity, as in

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 5>like if it's your niece, your nephew, if it's your best.

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Friend, do you know what I mean?

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 5>Like, is it just a friend or does it depend

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 5>on how close they are to the kids.

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I came to their birthday party totally.

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.720
<v Speaker 1>And to be fair, it was tasman my niece's birthday

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.240
<v Speaker 1>like a week and a half ago, and I'd seen

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:46.919
<v Speaker 1>her in the days and leader, but then I didn't

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 1>actually see her on her birthday and I was like, oh,

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>sorry two days ago. She knows I wish I had

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>be a birthday yeah, which obviously, if my sister cared,

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>she would probably be pissed at me, because you know,

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>technically I probably wasn't a very good auntie. But like,

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's four and she knows I love it.

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>She actually how old is she? Yes, she's four and

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>she knows.

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 4>I love her.

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 2>She's something under fists.

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 4>She does the best cart wheels. But I don't know.

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that the offense that you're taking is probably

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>more for yourself than it is for your child. And

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 1>I understand that as kids get older, you absolutely do

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>not want your children to be disappointed. And you know,

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>for example, if nana or an auntie or uncle forgot

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>when it was like their actual birthday and they were

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 1>old enough to know and to be disappointed by it.

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd feel very differently about it, But at the age too,

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I personally don't care. Other people will, and I think

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna have really close relationships with some people

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 1>who are really excited about it a second birthday or

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a first birthday, and then there's some people who just

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>genuinely birthdays are not big on their radar and so

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not something that they think about.

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I understand why you might want your friends to call

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 1>or a FaceTime or send a video message, but a

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>text message about a second birthday or a first birthday

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>does absolutely nothing for the child whose birthday it is.

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>All that is is an acknowledgment that two years ago

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 1>you birthed a child. So that's the congratulations to you,

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>and that is absolutely fair. You'll have some friends who

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>will do that, but I definitely don't expect that of

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 1>my friends. I don't care if they messaged me to

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>say well done for surviving another year, poor poor person.

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 3>I think the exception to this would be the grandparents.

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 5>I think if I had a kid and my mum

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.720
<v Speaker 5>or dad didn't call their own grandchild on one hundred

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 5>the kid's birthday, regardless of age, I think i'd be pissed, I.

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Agree, But also I'd be pissed if the grandparent just

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>sent a text message. Like if a grandparent didn't show

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>enough initiative to call my kids to even have like

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>a minute conversation with them or show their face, then

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>I would be like, Okay, that's a lack of care.

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think, like I'm saying, I think a text

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>message is the lowest form of effort for a child

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's.

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 2>Not for them. Do you know what you just said

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 2>that it's interesting you just said, Oh you know, I

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 2>don't care if someone doesn't call me and say congratulations,

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 2>like you've survived another year a kid's birthday. That doesn't

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 2>even clock to me that it's you surviving another year, Like,

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 2>don't even think about it. To me, a kid's birthday

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 2>has nothing to do with the fact that you've kept

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>it alive for another year. A kid's birthday to me

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 2>is like, oh, they're they're celebrating and their special day.

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 2>We all get a special day year. I don't associate

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 2>that with like, oh, the mom's also getting a congratulation

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 2>for keeping it alive.

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's really funny because like when Marley had her

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>first birthday, we had a big birthday party for Mali,

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>like you know.

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 2>It was for you being like, well, yeah, we had

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 2>a big.

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Birthday and I was pregnant with Lola, and I remember

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 1>having this moment where I was like, Marley is never

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>going to remember a single bit of this.

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 4>This is not about Maley.

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 1>This is about us doing one year of parenting like

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>this is And you know, it was all our friends.

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 4>She's one, She had no friends, so it's.

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 5>Not there was no kids, get some friends.

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, her cousins came over, but they were also one for.

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Just to be there through family connections, you know what

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 4>So like she just didn't get it.

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>So then when it came to Lola's first birthday party,

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>we were like, we're not going to have one because

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 1>like she doesn't remember. So now we only do birthday

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 1>parties that are like actual birthday parties from about three

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 1>years old, because like I don't know, I'm kind of like,

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 1>what's the It's expensive and what's the point. But yes,

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I think first birthdays that's not a celebration of I

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>mean it is. It's a celebration of reaching one, but

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it's also a celebration of reaching a whole year of

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 1>parenting and surviving.

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what just happened to you?

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Okay, if you guys don't celebrate in one.

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 2>People are going to come for us for that for sure.

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 2>People gonna be like, fucking Brittany's worse, aren't you?

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 4>Maybe me too? I mean, I'm look, Yeah, you.

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Didn't even through your own kid a birthday. You're worse.

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:27.360
<v Speaker 4>I didn't even tell my kid it was their birthday.

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 3>They also lie to mart that's financially savvy.

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 2>No I no.

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I told her eventually, but I was at work, so

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want her to like. I didn't want to

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 1>be like, happy birthday, Mum's going to work. So I

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>just told her on the weekend that it was her birthday,

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and then sheged to have the whole day.

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 4>I changed the day. That's brilliant.

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:40.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.399
<v Speaker 4>I think if your kids too, you can change the day.

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 4>They don't know.

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Lola thinks she's two, not four. She doesn't know how,

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't know what wakes up. Okay, last question. My

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 2>husband and I have been together for five years when

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 2>we first started dating, we had super great sex. Over time,

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:56.959
<v Speaker 2>I have found that my sex drive has lowered while

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 2>his is still extremely high. He thinks we have to

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 2>have sex every single day and complains if we miss

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:05.360
<v Speaker 2>a day or two. He'll say he just can't remember

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the last time we did it. That was in quotations,

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>You're like, hey, twenty four hours ago. Then he wants

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 2>to play catch up and have it multiple times the

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 2>next day. Oh my god, So it evens out to

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 2>being once a day. That is crazy, which isn't often

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 2>given it's hard to let a day go by without it.

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I have tried to tell him it's completely normal to

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 2>only have sex a few times a week, or at

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 2>least not every day, but he won't have a bar

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>of it. He says I should feel lucky to have

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 2>a husband who finds me so attractive. God, he gets

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 2>hard every time we're in bed together. I'man flattering but

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 2>all I want sometimes is just to have a cuddle

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and watch TV without him getting his thing out and

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 2>the expectation of what is to follow. I don't know

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 2>how to raise this with him, because I don't want

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:55.439
<v Speaker 2>sex every day. I tried jokingly saying it I try

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 2>to tell him I'm too tired. I try to get

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 2>out of it when he starts to initiate it. But

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:00.840
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, I don't want to

0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 2>hurt his feelings and reject him. I do find him

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 2>attractive and I want to have sex, but not as

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 2>often as he does. To be honest, it's just exhausting.

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 2>That's insane.

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 1>This is such a hard question to answer, not as

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>hard as him. Look, it's a really hard question to

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>answer because I understand the way that you feel in

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.879
<v Speaker 1>terms of like that duality between like I don't want

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 1>to disappoint but also I don't want to do something

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do. And at the end of

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the day, the main and most important message is like,

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to have sex, you should not

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.879
<v Speaker 1>feel pressured into having sex with anyone. It doesn't matter

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.440
<v Speaker 1>if it's your husband, it doesn't matter if he feels

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>this though, like you know it's this high sex drive

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 1>and he's you know, you should be flattered or grateful.

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to create a bigger problem for you

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the language I use around this, but

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.879
<v Speaker 1>there's something to me that is like really really makes

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>me really uncomfortable that he can't accept that there are

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 1>days where you don't want to have sex with him,

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:57.760
<v Speaker 1>and he either guilt trips you into it or pressures

0:49:57.800 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you into doing it anyway. And I know that, like

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you said, like you find him attractive, and you obviously

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 1>love your husband, and I'm sure he's great and every

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:06.720
<v Speaker 1>other way, but there is something about that that gives

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 1>me a massive ick towards his behavior around sex and

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 1>his feelings of entitlement to sex, because he doesn't have

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that entitlement to you, and he doesn't have that entitlement

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 1>to your body, and he should not feel as though

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>sex is something that he has the right to every

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:20.719
<v Speaker 1>single day.

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's important to note here that it is

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:26.360
<v Speaker 2>in fact not normal to have sex every day in

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 2>a long term relationship like that. You are the minority

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>if you are having sex every day, and it is

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:34.000
<v Speaker 2>amazing if you are having sex every day, and both

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 2>of you want that, but I think let's setting the

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 2>precedent of saying that it's normal in a long term

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 2>relationship is actually not. Ben and I don't even have

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 2>sex every day when we see each other, and that's

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 2>after months of not seeing each other, like.

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 1>It's but there's no also I agree with it, but

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>there's also no compromise in this. This expectation that if

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you haven't had sex every day that you have to

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 1>catch up like this has become an obligation for you.

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And the more that sex becomes an obligation, the less

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to enjoy it. It's not surprising to

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 1>me that your sex drive is decreasing and his hasn't changed.

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Speaker 1>But there's a real imbalance that's happening here. And you've

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>tried the you know, being nice and having like a

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>funny chat. I actually think you need to have a

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit more of a direct conversation. You can cater

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to his feelings. I'm not saying you don't have to

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>do that, but saying, just because I don't want to

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>have sex one night, you shouldn't take that to a fence.

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't take that as though that's a personal hit

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to you. And sometimes I am tired or I have

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a headache or whatever it is, but I shouldn't then

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 1>be in debt to you to make that up.

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 4>That's an unfair expectation on me.

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sex debt is not a thing.

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 4>It's not a thing.

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't exist, and thank you.

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the more I think about it, the bigger the

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 1>eckis that I have to me.

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't stress enough that if you were in this position,

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 2>that you've chosen this life partner, you are married and

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you do not want to have sex, that doesn't have

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a conversation where you have to joke around

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:55.280
<v Speaker 2>or you don't know how to navigate it. It doesn't

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:57.239
<v Speaker 2>have to be a huge deal, but it's a conversation

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.839
<v Speaker 2>that you should feel comfortable having. You should be able

0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 2>to say, hey, do you know what, I really don't

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 2>want sex every single day. It's not that I don't

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 2>want sex with you. Our sex drives are different. Can

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:09.840
<v Speaker 2>we meet in the middle. Can we do it a

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 2>few days a week? If you continue to make me

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like I have to do it, I can tell

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 2>you what is going to happen. I'll be example, well,

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to want it less. And I think communicating

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 2>these issues it's normal to have different sex drives, and

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I would maybe have a different opinion if you were

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:29.399
<v Speaker 2>saying I want to have sex once every four months.

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a sex drive. What do we do?

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:33.359
<v Speaker 2>But you are still wanting to have it multiple times

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.240
<v Speaker 2>a week, and to me, that is like a completely

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 2>normal compromise. Have the conversation with him really honestly, because

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.439
<v Speaker 2>it's going to push you away further. You will resent him,

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you will get the ick, you will want it less.

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:49.240
<v Speaker 2>So just say, hey, I love you, I'm so attracted

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 2>to you. I don't have sometimes the energy or mental

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 2>capacity to do it every single day. My sex drive

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:58.240
<v Speaker 2>is obviously a little bit smaller than yours. I debate

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 2>if he really needs to do it every day.

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 4>And I just debate. I completely agree.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 1>And this idea of like you don't want to hurt

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 1>someone's feelings or you don't want them to feel rejected.

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I understand why you feel that way, but you are

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 1>not responsible for his reaction to you saying that you

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>don't want to have sex with him on one or

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 1>two occasions. It's different if you were rejecting every single

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 1>advance and he was like, I'm trying here and you

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want to. You also can do that like I'm

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, there are people in relationships and that happens,

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and like you don't have to have sex at any

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:30.439
<v Speaker 1>point that you don't want to. But I also don't

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 1>want him to turn around. And I know you haven't

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>said this, but this does happen in relationships. People use

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>rejection and they use their feelings of hurt as a

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:40.759
<v Speaker 1>manipulation tool to get you to still do the thing

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 1>that they want you to do.

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:43.319
<v Speaker 4>That's fucked like.

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>You should be able to say I'm not in the

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 1>mood tonight without fear of them playing the rejected card

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 1>or playing the feelings hurt card, and I think a

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of people would have been in that situation. I've

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>absolutely been in the situation where I've been then guilt

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 1>tripped into feeling as though I've hurt their feelings, and

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 1>so then I found myself having sex with them anyway,

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't really want to do it because we,

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:09.880
<v Speaker 1>especially as women, we worry so much about hurting people's feelings,

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and we often deprioritize what we want because we don't

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:16.239
<v Speaker 1>want to upset someone. And I can think about, oh fuck,

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>it makes me actually feel sick thinking about it. I

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 1>have absolutely had sex with people that I didn't want

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to have sex with because I didn't want to upset them.

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:24.839
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to do that with your husband, and

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 1>that's okay. Can I just add a layer to this

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 1>lords that I think exists so much. And I know

0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I am talking stereotypically. I think a lot of the

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>time in these types of conversations, the next layer.

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Becomes, well, it's a need for me. I need to

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:40.319
<v Speaker 2>have sex every day.

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 3>There are actually a lot of studies on this biologically

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 3>not true.

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 5>People do not need to have sex every day, regardless

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 5>of gender, regardless of sex drive.

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:48.840
<v Speaker 2>It is not a need.

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 5>And I think a lot of the time when these

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 5>start to turn really toxic, that type of communication of well,

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.399
<v Speaker 5>I want to have sex more. If you're not going

0:54:57.440 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 5>to give it to me, I'll have to find it

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 5>somewhere else. And I think that can almost be a

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 5>little bit of, like you said, a manipulation technique and

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:05.640
<v Speaker 5>a threat of like, well, if you're.

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Not going to put out for me, I will find.

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:08.879
<v Speaker 2>It in some other way.

0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I do I want to imply that that's

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:11.840
<v Speaker 4>what this person is going to do.

0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:14.879
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that I've jumped to there, but like he can

0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 5>masturbate totally, you know, Like I just think that so

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 5>many times, And I have friends that are in this position,

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 5>and I've heard of conversations that they have had with

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.760
<v Speaker 5>their partner where it's like, well, you know, I'm wanting

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:27.920
<v Speaker 5>it from you, so that's a good thing.

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not, you know what I mean.

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:31.759
<v Speaker 5>It's really grow very very disgusting language, but I think

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 5>it's more common than what many people may really.

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 2>He knows, he knows it is not normal to have

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:39.840
<v Speaker 2>sex every day. Every single man knows that it is

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:41.759
<v Speaker 2>not normal in a long term relationship to have sex

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 2>every day. So if he all he has to do

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:45.880
<v Speaker 2>is go and ask any one of his friends in

0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 2>a group hout many times a week do you guys

0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:49.439
<v Speaker 2>have sex? How many times? How well are you having sex?

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 2>He's using that against you one hundred ccent And I'm

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 2>not saying this to say he's a bad person. We

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>don't even know him. My angle is not here to

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 2>go and say he's a bad person. My angle here

0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:00.399
<v Speaker 2>is to say it is okay for you to stand

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's not offensive to say to your husband, I

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.120
<v Speaker 2>don't want to have sex today Again, if you were

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:07.919
<v Speaker 2>not wanting to have sex for a year, I would say, yeah,

0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 2>that's something that you should go and work on together

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 2>and sort out. Because there are levels of different people

0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 2>having needs like maybe see a sex counselor or work

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 2>out the problem. But this is like you're still doing

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 2>it four times a week, five times a week, just

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 2>telling him just be like, this is not cool for me.

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not enjoying it as much.

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:25.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think the big take home from this is

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like sex is not an obligation and he is not

0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:31.040
<v Speaker 1>entitled to it, and you do not have to play

0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>catch up like and the fact that you feel as

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>though you do speaks about the way that he approaches

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>sex because he has made you feel like you owe

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>him these things or he's going to be but hurt

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and feel rejected. That says a lot about his emotional

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, his eq not about and the state of

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:52.360
<v Speaker 1>how he views sex, rather than actually what's going on

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 1>in this relationship. And you know, I really want to

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 1>reiterate when not saying that you have a bad relationship,

0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:01.120
<v Speaker 1>we're not saying that your husband's are fucking bad guy. Like, yes,

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