WEBVTT - Instagram's Algorithm Fail, Sarah's Day Says Yes To The Dress & Molly-Mae Hague's Shock Announcement

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<v Speaker 1>This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kay and

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have

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<v Speaker 1>identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers

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<v Speaker 1>all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so fat. Thank you, hello, and welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Outspoken. Now. We thought we would start the episode

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<v Speaker 1>by giving you a little bit of an insight into

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<v Speaker 1>what it's really like working with your sisters. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's no secret that we argue from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've had full blown arguments on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I've even listened back to the start of episodes where

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<v Speaker 1>my voice is like hoarse because we've had like a

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<v Speaker 1>very heated argument before we've got into recording about what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about. Yeah. Well, the other night,

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<v Speaker 1>we all had a girls' night at Sophie's house and

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<v Speaker 1>we decided to watch the Veronica's Reality MTV show, and

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, I've never related to a clip of

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<v Speaker 1>two people fighting ever so much in my life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like it really encapsulates what our arguments are

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<v Speaker 1>like without having to actually air our own dirty pountry

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<v Speaker 1>and show really what we argue like, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should go to a clip and have a listen at

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<v Speaker 1>how they fight with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>So Lese forgot the black latex bodysuit again. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to pack three suitcases full of stuff, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>all the beads, all the dresses, the blue and the

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<v Speaker 2>pink lab It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Too much responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember read a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind listen to me. You have it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you had the red and the black latex.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the red, you have the black from hands,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the latex bodysuit from the Heaven Party. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go find the text message back.

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<v Speaker 1>Now go find that that good. I will once I

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<v Speaker 1>actually have the time. Now, you took my makeup? Where

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<v Speaker 1>take your makeup?

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably sitting in the same place with the black latex.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a nightmare to be around. I packed both

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<v Speaker 2>of the knee.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut the fight. Told you.

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<v Speaker 2>I will take into pack everything that I you have

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<v Speaker 2>for the right of having any opinion right now unless

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<v Speaker 2>you show respect.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm speaking and stop.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like we don't have a billion other options,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but literally the black Latex is actually a

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<v Speaker 2>stable piece.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Jess, honestly say I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't say no, I say I apologizing, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have apologie, because I'm not enabling your behavior right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hi, your hair gets the more bitchy you're becoming.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing I loved about this fight is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they are openly arguing in front of a

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<v Speaker 1>room full of people, and I just love how awkward

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<v Speaker 1>the people look. I really felt for our best friend

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<v Speaker 1>Owen because I felt like it showed what she must

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<v Speaker 1>feel like in those moments where Sophie, Amy and I

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<v Speaker 1>are having massive arguments and she's just awkwardly there trying

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<v Speaker 1>not to like be on anyone side. Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Though so many people have told us that our fights

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<v Speaker 1>are funny to watch, and watching them, I finally understood, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually is quite entertaining. It also brought me back

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<v Speaker 1>to a fight that we had on our girls trip

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<v Speaker 1>with Owen in Penang, where it was a fight about communism,

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<v Speaker 1>of all things. But that's the thing, Like, not that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a small issue, but I mean, most of the

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<v Speaker 1>arguments we have are brought on by the most minute

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<v Speaker 1>thing I think though the topic in question is not

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<v Speaker 1>usually what where the argument is stemming from. It's usually

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<v Speaker 1>used as a vehicle for other issues to be raised.

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<v Speaker 1>The other bit of the Veronica's fight I really related

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<v Speaker 1>to is how they overcome their argument. So let's have

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<v Speaker 1>a listen to this clip.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as you hear I start to call each other,

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<v Speaker 2>chi chi, you know that the fight is over and

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<v Speaker 2>the white flag is waving.

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<v Speaker 1>And even just do it around there and do it

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<v Speaker 1>at a moment, CHITCHI lot.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had the black Wave ex bodyuit, this could have.

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<v Speaker 3>Been a month.

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<v Speaker 1>This is us to a tea. I mean, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest. We've lived with each other for thirty years,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, there has been points where we've almost had

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<v Speaker 1>physical fights. Well we have, Sorry, we have had physical fights.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been shoes thrown at each other's, the muffin throwing incident.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst thing is that sometimes these arguments would be

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<v Speaker 1>captured on Snapchat secretly, and sometimes I get these memories

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<v Speaker 1>pop up when we live together and like Brandon will

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<v Speaker 1>be like, what are you watching? I'm like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm going to say is like, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>point where it's you know, quite a crazy fight. But literally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say ten minutes later, we will just be putting

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<v Speaker 1>on these little voices to each other and calling it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they cute little names, darling, stop it, and literally everything

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<v Speaker 1>will be fine. It's our boyfriends can't work it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's funny seeing how other siblings resolve

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<v Speaker 1>some arguments or the fact that they don't argue at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to know is it just a multiple

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<v Speaker 1>birth thing? Because we've obviously had to share the womb

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<v Speaker 1>with each other. We're that close and just like the Veronicas,

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<v Speaker 1>So when I saw them, I was like, is it

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<v Speaker 1>multiple births? Or is it like girls and girls arguing?

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<v Speaker 1>Or We're going to put the question in our Facebook group,

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<v Speaker 1>which has outspoken the podcast Facebook community, and we want

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<v Speaker 1>to know, what are the biggest arguments you've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>with this sibling and do you relate to the veron

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<v Speaker 1>I don't so much. I'd also like to throw in there,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the biggest argument you've had over something ridiculously small?

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't even matter. Yeah, what triggers the arguments? Because

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<v Speaker 1>for us it's usually clothes and make up, boyfriends stealing

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<v Speaker 1>each other's things, Yeah, it's really anything, very trivial things,

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<v Speaker 1>even just the way something is phrased towards someone. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we said, communism apparently is another point of argument.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, sister.

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<v Speaker 1>My influencer James Charles has hit out at Instagram, claiming

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<v Speaker 1>a change in the platform's algorithm has caused his likes

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<v Speaker 1>to drop from four million to one million per post.

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<v Speaker 1>In the eight minute long video, the beauty influencer explained

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<v Speaker 1>that while he can survive with a seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>drop in engagement, a lot of other creators cannot. Amy

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on what James Charles said? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I really love the fact that James Charles came out

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<v Speaker 1>and made an Insta story about this topic. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think first we should have a listened to what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>can I say say? It's quite ironic that he used

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram to share the story that he's not happy with Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>and Instagram would have been like, yeah, let's get this

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<v Speaker 1>algorithm low for this post. Anyway, let's throw to the clip.

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<v Speaker 3>There has been a massive major change in the Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>algorithm that I have noticed, the other big have noticed,

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<v Speaker 3>and that I know for a fact small businesses and

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<v Speaker 3>small artists have definitely noticed because it affects them the most.

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<v Speaker 3>And Instagram is sitting here adding all these features that

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<v Speaker 3>nobody's asking for, pretending like nothing's happening, nothing is changing,

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<v Speaker 3>are while ignoring everybody who's giving them feedback and saying

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't like the directing that the app is going.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought this was a really interesting point that

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<v Speaker 1>James Charles made. He first came out and said that

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<v Speaker 1>of course he's being selfish in making this post because

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<v Speaker 1>it is affecting his business. But what about the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are small creators or small businesses. I mean, a

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent decrease in people coming to your account

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge number, and it could be killing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of businesses. And it's really difficult if the creators

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<v Speaker 1>of that platform can't understand what's going on, which is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a trickle down effect to brands, because

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<v Speaker 1>brands aren't going to know why people are getting a

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent decrease, and they're going to assume that

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<v Speaker 1>those influences are people that they no longer want to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a theory. Did Instagram get rid of likes?

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<v Speaker 1>So that it wouldn't be a parent how much this

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<v Speaker 1>drop was occurring for regular people. So they just weren't

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<v Speaker 1>across the fact that there was an algorithm change, because

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're working with someone like James Charles, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>privy to all of his stats. Well, James Charles has

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<v Speaker 1>said he's only seen a change in algorithm in the

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<v Speaker 1>last two months. So his posts we're getting four million likes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're now getting one million likes. And he said he's

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<v Speaker 1>done nothing. He hasn't changed how many times he's posting,

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<v Speaker 1>he's responding to fans, he's doing all the right things,

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<v Speaker 1>and all it points to is the fact that Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>has made an algorithm change. However, they haven't announced any change,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what he's so angry about, because brands will

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<v Speaker 1>be saying, well, what's the problem, because Instagram, haven't you

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<v Speaker 1>announced anything has changed. What they have actually made an

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<v Speaker 1>announcement about is additions that they've made to the platform.

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<v Speaker 1>So Instagram IGTVV creators now have the option to turn

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<v Speaker 1>on automatic captions for their videos, which are available in

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen different languages. That's good, which make the platform a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more inclusive to people that obviously can't hear. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea though as well. But it's also for

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<v Speaker 1>people who were just at work on Instagram and don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose of course. Yeah, that too, which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually loving because I noticed on the Instagram stories now

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<v Speaker 1>you can even you write your caption or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can have it as rolling text as well, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty cool. They have also introduced a new map

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<v Speaker 1>and calendar tool, which I'm actually not familiar with yet,

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<v Speaker 1>which allows people to browse old stories by date and location.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god from other people's Yeah, well it's insane

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<v Speaker 1>that door then changing. Oh god, I would have loved

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<v Speaker 1>that about five years ago. Yeah, I thought you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to say it was a map like on Snapchat,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was going to say, that's pretty well, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be pretty tough for influences to be on that celebrity. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also they've made some changes to reels. Now reels

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<v Speaker 1>can be thirty seconds long rather than fifteen seconds. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know about this one? So Instagram, to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>its tenth birthday, has introduced that you can change the

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram icon on your phone. So what you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do is you go into your settings and you pull

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<v Speaker 1>the page down until you see confetti animation, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it will allow you to choose between like the normal

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram logo, the classic and the retro one. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's all smoke and mirrors. They're introducing all of

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<v Speaker 1>these fancy new things, but yet hiding the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the algorithm has changed and that this will drastically affect

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<v Speaker 1>businesses online. Well, that's exactly what James Child said. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>while Instagram are bringing in all these new features, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not actually acknowledging the changes that a lot of creators

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<v Speaker 1>are having a problem with, number one being the algorithm change. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's quite obvious that Instagram have a real

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<v Speaker 1>focus on monetization and commos, which is what the top

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<v Speaker 1>executive at Instagram, Tom Masirio, actually announced, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're working on a number of new features to help

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<v Speaker 1>creators making a living. Expect more updates soon. He also

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<v Speaker 1>hinted more audience insights may soon be available to businesses

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<v Speaker 1>and creator accounts. But to me, it's what they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>doing is very counterintuitive to the creators. They're claiming, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to make it easier for you guys to

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<v Speaker 1>earn money on the platform. But that's not the The

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<v Speaker 1>issue is that for a long time, influencers have been

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<v Speaker 1>earning a lot of money from the platform, but Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>themselves have not, So that's quite clear why they are

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<v Speaker 1>making change. So it's like, here's all these tools so

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<v Speaker 1>you can be better at influencing or making your business

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<v Speaker 1>page go off, but then we're going to cut down

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<v Speaker 1>your engagement so much. It's very obvious that Instagram just

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<v Speaker 1>want influencers and businesses to pay to be seen on

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<v Speaker 1>the app, which is what exactly happened to Facebook and

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<v Speaker 1>why Facebook is now so unpopular. I mean, yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>all go on it, but we don't use it how

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<v Speaker 1>we used to use it, and I feel like Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>is going to turn into the same thing. Well, James

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<v Speaker 1>Tiles made a really good point. He said that it

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<v Speaker 1>is embarrassing that his likes have gone down from four

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<v Speaker 1>million to one million, and although he's more concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>what it means for smaller businesses and also his business,

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<v Speaker 1>it does bring up a very good point of will

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<v Speaker 1>people be posting? I know likes have been taken away,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's be honest, we can still see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's ways around seeing people's engagement. Jump on your desktop

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<v Speaker 1>and have a lot. Yeah. Yeah, but as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>someone like if I like your post, amy, I can

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<v Speaker 1>then click on and see how many people have liked it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to manually count it, but it gives me

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of how many likes you've gotten. Well, Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>actually came out and said that one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>for taking away likes was to increase user engagement on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>so people wouldn't care about posting a photo if it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get many likes. But what James Charles is saying,

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<v Speaker 1>these new changes are making people get seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>less engagement, and people are tweeting and saying I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even feel like posting a photo on Instagram because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just embarrassing. Well, talking about the changes, obviously, Instagram haven't

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<v Speaker 1>actually come out and said that there are any. But

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<v Speaker 1>what are people actually thinking has been changed with the algorithm? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there are thoughts that the algorithm is favoring people whose

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<v Speaker 1>photos are saved. So I actually never do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>never save people's photos. But a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>saying that this change in algorithm is actually favoring people

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<v Speaker 1>who post you know, like bikini first trap picks, because

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, that's what some men and I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>some women are also saving on their phones. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that Jade Twinschi was actually asking her followers to

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<v Speaker 1>start saving pictures if they wanted to see her in

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<v Speaker 1>their news feed. It does make me think is Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>turning more into Pinterest, because that's a very Pinterest style thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you obviously go on there, you find an

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<v Speaker 1>esthetic that you like, maybe you're planning a wedding or

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<v Speaker 1>redecorating or looking at fashion, and you save the pins.

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<v Speaker 1>So it feels to me like Instagram is rebelling from

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<v Speaker 1>what is now becoming a place where it's favoring authenticity.

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<v Speaker 1>But it completely contradicts their first message when they got

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the likes. They said, we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable to post regularly whatever you want. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying you have to post images that are good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be saved and used on other platforms. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes no sense. It seems like they're trying to push

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<v Speaker 1>back to a time when feeds were really curated and

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<v Speaker 1>people are only wanting to save these very perfect images

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<v Speaker 1>to try and repliciz It's just a very dumb business move.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not reflective of what society wants at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the pandemic. I feel like people are pushing

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<v Speaker 1>against that perfect ideal. Just a thought though it could

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<v Speaker 1>actually advantage some small creators because think about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like people who post about their pantries and their organizational photos.

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<v Speaker 1>People would be saving that type of content. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go and save influences like glamorous shots. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be more business pages I'd be saving. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>dependent on what you're looking for. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of young people out there that may save influencers glamoroushots

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<v Speaker 1>because they like that clothing style or that honest it's

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<v Speaker 1>men saving photos for a wank bank, like that is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. I'm just going to say it's photo

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<v Speaker 1>has everyone, But that would be a large portion I

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<v Speaker 1>believe of an audience that will now be favoring bikini photos.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the other hand, I feel like people who

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<v Speaker 1>run social media accounts for a living they save photos

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<v Speaker 1>is inspiration from other accounts, But is that just encouraging

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<v Speaker 1>people to steal photos and copy one another's photos. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting you say that because one of the new

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<v Speaker 1>features Instagram have added is similar to what Facebook's feature

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<v Speaker 1>is in terms of copywriting. So Facebook actually have a

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<v Speaker 1>feature that I didn't even know about until today called

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook Rights Manager, and it's a tool designed to help

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<v Speaker 1>you find any of your copyrighted images that you've submitted

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<v Speaker 1>for protection on the platform and manage them accordingly. So

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<v Speaker 1>now you can do that with Instagram. You can say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well I've taken this beautiful photo and you can have

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram track it and then serve those people with sort

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<v Speaker 1>of an infringement to let them know, hey, that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>your photo, which is very an interesting step to protect creators.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they're encouraging people to save them, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make sense. Yeah, I suppose you can save them,

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<v Speaker 1>but once you replicate them and pass them off as

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<v Speaker 1>your own work, it's not fair. Well. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>look on Social Blade, which is a website where you

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<v Speaker 1>can look at different influencers engagement, and currently James Charles

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<v Speaker 1>has eight point six three percent engagement on his Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and that's really good. That's a really high engagement. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy to think he actually had four times the amount.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah previously, Well, I had to look at some of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ossie influencers because I thought everyone might be interest

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<v Speaker 1>and it's crazy to see who's doing really well. So

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<v Speaker 1>Bella from The Bachelor, her engagement is more than James Charles. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>her engagement is nine points. But that's just the percent

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<v Speaker 1>though it doesn't mean there's more people. Yeah, but the

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<v Speaker 1>percentage is a comparable of the audience. And over the

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<v Speaker 1>last thirty days, Bella's Instagram has grown by thirty four thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>so she has a total of one hundred and nine

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<v Speaker 1>thousand followers, So that is growing at an amazing rate. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty expected when you've been on the finale of

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<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor. I feel like we'll look in thirty days

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<v Speaker 1>time and that growth will not be there anymore. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>last time I looked at Becky, who's one of the Bachelorette,

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<v Speaker 1>she had twenty five thousand followers. I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>indicative of the ratings for that show at the moment though. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Becky's engagement is five point eight percent. But it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at Abby Chatfield, She's got six point one

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<v Speaker 1>seven percent engagement, But look at someone like Tully Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and her engagement is zero point six percent. That really

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<v Speaker 1>surprised me. But I suppose when you look at someone

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<v Speaker 1>like Abby Chatfield, who is consistently connecting with her audience

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<v Speaker 1>in a very relatable and authentic way, people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be drawn to that type of content. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to look at Tylia Skaines's engagement on Social Blade and

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<v Speaker 1>she's currently at two point three percent, and she does

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<v Speaker 1>post a lot of bikini picks, so it will be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see if that figure does go up over

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple of weeks. And I'm really intrigued to

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<v Speaker 1>see if Instagram slowly does start taking some of that

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<v Speaker 1>power away from influencers, because it does indeed seem like

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<v Speaker 1>that is what their end goal is, and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to already be happening. You know, you've got the Instagram's

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<v Speaker 1>biggest influencers calling them out. But how dumb because everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>just going to go away from the app. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok's threatening Instagram in terms of popularity, And why would

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<v Speaker 1>you be pissing people off like James Charles. Maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting too big for their boots now that TikTok is

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<v Speaker 1>potentially being shut down in America. Maybe Hi, I'm Monie

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<v Speaker 1>May hag I've got a text. This week, Love Island

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<v Speaker 1>star Molly May Haigu revealed to her four point nine

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<v Speaker 1>billion followers that she needs further surgery after having a

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<v Speaker 1>mole removed on her leg. The twenty one year old

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<v Speaker 1>said while she's very scared, she wants her story to

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<v Speaker 1>raise awareness. Skin cancer is ranked as the most common

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<v Speaker 1>cancer amongst BRIT's age fifteen to thirty four, with many

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<v Speaker 1>viewing selariums as a healthy way to get vitamin D. Sophie,

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<v Speaker 1>can you talk us through what's happening with Molly may Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Molly may has been very vocal sharing this on her

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and last month that started with a photo that

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<v Speaker 1>she shared showing her bandaged leg and she explained that

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<v Speaker 1>she had to have a mole removed after getting multiple

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<v Speaker 1>opinions from different doctors who suggested it may become cancerous

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<v Speaker 1>at some stage. This kind of freaked me out because

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<v Speaker 1>she said she went to two doctors that told her

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<v Speaker 1>that it was fine. So it just shows how important

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<v Speaker 1>it is to follow these things up if you are

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about something. Well. It was actually Molly's mum who

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<v Speaker 1>first noticed the mole and that was when she was

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<v Speaker 1>in the Love Island Feelers, So it has been something

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's been playing on Molly's mind a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So she told her followers this week that she is

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<v Speaker 1>awaiting further surgery after she had the mole removed on

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<v Speaker 1>her leg, and she told fans that she wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to go into detail until she had her results back.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote, so, about three weeks ago now, I was

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<v Speaker 1>advised that a mole I had on my leg needed removing.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the procedure done within a few days. Last

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<v Speaker 1>week I received my results back and it's safe to

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<v Speaker 1>say they were not at all what I was expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to process the information I received whilst

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<v Speaker 1>being super busy with work, and it's not been easy.

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<v Speaker 1>She then went on to say, I'm still not able

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<v Speaker 1>to give my full diagnosis until my further surgery has

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<v Speaker 1>taken place and have received those results. But for now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to stay positive. I never thought at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one something like this would happen to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very scary. But all I know is that I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely need to share my story and what I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>through to raise awareness of this situation. I'll keep you

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<v Speaker 1>updated as much as I can. I've already received so

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<v Speaker 1>many lovely messages from you guys, and I appreciate it

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<v Speaker 1>so much. The thing that I've taken away from this

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<v Speaker 1>is that Molly has been so brave in documenting her

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<v Speaker 1>experience and also urging followers to be very vigilant, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when it's not really something that seems to be taken

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<v Speaker 1>seriously in the UK. You forget that she's only twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Really shocks me, and it is very mature of her

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<v Speaker 1>to use her experience to educate others, especially when she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really know what's going to happen. It seems very

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air, obviously waiting on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>test results. I mean, I just feel stressed thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>it for her. What it really shone a light on

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<v Speaker 1>for me was the ingrained tanning culture that actually exists

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK. It's crazy because for a country that's

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<v Speaker 1>very dreary, gloomy and there isn't really much sun about

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<v Speaker 1>the place, it's funny how tanning is so popular there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it did shock me that skin cancer was the leading

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<v Speaker 1>cancer in young people in the UK, when, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>many of them don't actually go out in the sun

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<v Speaker 1>and it's only on holidays overseas that they are exposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the sunlight. I have actually noticed that because I

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<v Speaker 1>do follow a lot of UK influencers and they clearly

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had the same sun safe messages that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>You know at school or is you've got a slip

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<v Speaker 1>slop slap before you go out, whereas they're like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, it's sunny, I've got to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to get my vitamin D and I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to sit in the sun all day. Well that makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense because they don't see a lot of the sun,

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<v Speaker 1>so in Australia we have to These are things that

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do all the time. Well, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting when you do look into the history of the

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<v Speaker 1>tanning culture over there, and it really became popular with

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<v Speaker 1>the accessibility of foreign travel. So in the later half

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<v Speaker 1>of the twentieth century we saw more people traveling for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, so sun tanning became something that was

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<v Speaker 1>actually glamorous and showed wealth rather than representing poverty. So

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time it was really cool and glamorous

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<v Speaker 1>to have a tan. Well. I don't know about other people,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like it's pretty easy to spot the

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<v Speaker 1>English people when you're overseas. So when we've holidayed in Malaysia,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see the people a mile away because they're

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<v Speaker 1>often completely sunburned and bread and they just spend their

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<v Speaker 1>whole holiday sun baking. But it's say that for Australians

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But that's the thing. After speaking to a

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<v Speaker 1>number of people in our community and also doing our research,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually crazy because tanning beds were first developed in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen ninety one by the man who created Kellogg's corn flakes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were brought out because they said they were

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<v Speaker 1>really good for you, so they helped you with vitamin D.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that there's this ingrained theory amongst the

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<v Speaker 1>UK that oh, it's really healthy to go into these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And it shocked me there are actually eight thousand sun

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<v Speaker 1>tanning beds in the UK. It grows because in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>they've been banned because we know that they're not healthy

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<v Speaker 1>at all, that they're very dangerous. They're carcinogenic at the

0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 1>end of the day. Studies show that even just one

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 1>session in one of these sun beds can increase your

0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.119
<v Speaker 1>chances of melanoma by twenty percent and your chances of

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 1>other skin cancers increased by sixty seven percent. And that

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 1>is just one time in a sunbed. That is so scary.

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I know of so many people that have actually used

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.199
<v Speaker 1>suntanning beds back in the day, probably like ten fifteen

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.840
<v Speaker 1>years ago. It's crazy because the stats show that between

0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the ages of fifteen to thirty four, the most common

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.680
<v Speaker 1>cancer is skin cancer. And it's not a surprise when

0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 1>you go for a walk down one of the main

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 1>streets in England, there are sunbed places everywhere. And what's

0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:00.119
<v Speaker 1>most disturbing is that children are using these beds. It

0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.800
<v Speaker 1>showed that forty three percent of fourteen to sixteen year

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:06.199
<v Speaker 1>olds have used sun tanning beds at least once, and

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 1>an even more disturbing stats showed that eight to eleven

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.200
<v Speaker 1>year olds are using sun tanning beds, with seven percent

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:16.199
<v Speaker 1>of these children using them once every fortnight. What the hell, Like,

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I just it blows my mind. Growing up, our mum

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:22.760
<v Speaker 1>was so vigilant about sun care, like and I feel

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 1>so lucky that she was. I mean, we hated it,

0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 1>having to put suncream on every day and wearing hats

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and wearing rashes, but I am so thankful now it

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>is so scary to think that these kids are putting

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>themselves at risk of melanoma. But the thing is what's

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>sad is the parents think that they're probably doing the

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>right thing because it's been ingrained in them that it's

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 1>healthy to have as suntan, it's healthy to get vitamin D.

0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So they're probably thinking, oh, yeah, I'll let the kids

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>go in there. They don't get much sun. I wonder

0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>if it's got anything to do with shows like Jeordie

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Shaw and The Only Ways Es six, because a lot

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 1>of them promote sun beds and obviously fake tan as well.

0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>But we I mean Molly May herself promotes tanning, which

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I found was kind of not ironic, but it was

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>interesting that she obviously a bit of a big part

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 1>of her image is having a beautiful tan, or even

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 1>inside the villa on Love Island, they're constantly out sun baking,

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and you do wonder if they are provided with suncream. Well,

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing I thought of because watching it

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>from a perspective of always being forced to wear sun

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>cream as a kid. When I watched them tanning basically

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>all day in very like small clothing like bathers, I

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of made me feel sick, and all I could

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:34.679
<v Speaker 1>think of was, oh my gosh, their poor skin. And

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I do wonder if Love Island has any sort of

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>OHS safety obligations considering it essentially was a workplace, and

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 1>there are some rumors that they do make them wear

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>bikinis during the day and that they made to sit outside.

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 1>So well, the thing is that skin cancers can happen

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:54.719
<v Speaker 1>to anybody. You can be out in the sun. It

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>only takes a few times getting burnt, and so in

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 1>that sense, it is of course the responsibility of the

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 1>person to wear suncream. And you know, as I said,

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you can get burnt a few times and pick up

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a skin cancer. So we don't want to be blaming anyone.

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to blame anyone, but there are definitely

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 1>obligations that workplaces have to take on board. And it

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 1>would be, for example, if you were working putting music

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 1>together and we're always listening to loud concerts, then your

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:21.639
<v Speaker 1>hearing is going to be affected. So there are steps

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:25.360
<v Speaker 1>in place that workplaces need to provide you with adequate protection.

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's the same thing with suncream on a show

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>like Love Island, where you're outside all the time. That

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>being said, this could be Love Island's huge opportunity to

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.360
<v Speaker 1>promote suncream as a cool thing to wear. They need

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to be showing the contestants putting on the sun cream.

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I really hope, So I really hope they do that,

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>But I also hope that they shut down some of

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>these bloody sun beds. It's really disturbing because stats show

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that in the last three decades the rates of skin

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 1>cancer have quadrupled and it is down to these bloody

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.160
<v Speaker 1>sun beds. If you I could walk through the main

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.919
<v Speaker 1>streets of England, there are so many of these beds

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.919
<v Speaker 1>out there and it's really disturbing because there's even slot

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 1>machines where you can go and just put a couple

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of a couple of coins in one of these machines.

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no one working there, so it's not regulated. Kids

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 1>can go in them, it's not regulated how long you're

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in these machines, what type of skin you have. It's

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>just disgusting. Well do you not really disturbs me. They

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>have been shut down in Australia, which is fantastic, but

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>you can still purchase sun beds in Australia, So I

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>have a friend who has a sunbed that uses it

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>at home. When I was working at Today tonight, we

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 1>did a story about sunbed usage and this was on

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>the cusp of when they were going to be outlawed,

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 1>and you actually had to fill in a little survey

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of what your skin was like, except you could totally

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>botch it. I could say that I had olive skin

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 1>and they'd let me in straight away. So they actually

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>need to outlaw it completely because you can't be trusted

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 1>like people can't be trusted to. It's definitely to be

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>self regulation show exactly well. I really hope in the

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>next couple of weeks that we do hear some good

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>news from Molly May about her surgery, and it's just

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 1>really great that she is shining a light on the matter. Scy,

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>let's get into our influencer rap, so can you start

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>us off? We really have to take our hats off

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to Instagram page celeb spellcheck for this one. They were

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>first to break this story, and it is of course

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>that Sky Wheatley has announced baby number two is on

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the way, and so let's spell check. They were on

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>this a few weeks ago. They were picking up the

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 1>signs before anyone else noticed. So for those who haven't

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>seen it, Sky made the announcement with a photo shoot

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>which was professionally styled and her family posed in beige

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>outfits outside of White mansion and they basically held up

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 1>a sonogram showing their new baby. Yeah, and Sky had

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>been talking about this photo shoot for quite a few weeks,

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 1>so it was kind of obvious that this is going

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.199
<v Speaker 1>to happen. So we were just really waiting for the

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>photo to drop. And I don't think it disappointed. It

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>was very sky. It was very over the top and

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>really didn't make much sense as to why they needed

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 1>to have a full on photo shoot and video shoot.

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Well three weeks ago, she posted a rather misleading photos

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>which made her followers believe that she was actually having twins.

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>She posted a selfie where Lockie had his hand on

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>her stomach. I was I say fox, which one forest

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was in the photo? And she wrote and then there

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>were five. Now, for those who actually had ego eyes,

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 1>they would have spotted that their dash hounds, Winston and

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.959
<v Speaker 1>crunchyet was seen in the background, so that's who she

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>was apparently indicating to. So her comments were filled with

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 1>people being like, oh my god, this is the pregnancy announcement,

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>So she responded in her comments confirming that she wasn't

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 1>pregnant and that the next baby announcement would be far

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>more epic than a mirror selfie. The announcement did kind

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.719
<v Speaker 1>of make more sense as to why she was reminiscing

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>over old photos of herself and her smaller waist. Yeah,

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>it definitely did bring a bit more context there. I'm

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to finding out what she's going to name

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>this child and what the sex if it's going to

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>be, because with a name like Forest, I don't think she's

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>going to have a regular boy or girl's name.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm also hoping, I mean, I hope it's just a

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>healthy baby, but I would love to see her with

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a girl. I'd find that very interesting to see how

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>she dresses her up. And also what I'm looking forward

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to seeing is more of those epic McDonald's woun So

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>once they had done their photo shoot and announced it,

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Sky was putting on her story that they went and

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>got there was like two massive bags of McDonald's between

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 1>the two of them. Also, she also had that epic

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>chocolate pudding as well. I was made me so hungry

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and I very much look forward to more of that

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of content. Well. Another influencer he's been talking about

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>big life events is Sarah's Day. I found this one

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>so exciting. On Sunday, Sarah announced to her followers that

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>she would be going a wedding dress shopping for the

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>first time now. Of course, Sarah and Kirk got engaged

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>in Hawaii in December last year, and two months ago

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>they shared a vlog where they traveled to Byron Bay

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>to plan their wedding and basically Sarah talked about the

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>fact that they have put the wedding plans on hold

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>while she's renovating and also while her cooking project is

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>nearing its end. Sarah did admit, though, that she had

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>a bit of an intervention and disagreement with her father,

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>who said that she needs to make it a priority

0:28:56.400 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to get married. Sarah's dad seems quite religious. Yeah, and

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Sarah has been speaking about the fact that she wants

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to have a sibling for Fox sometime soon. So he said, hey, Sarah,

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>if you don't do this now, you'll never get married. Yeah.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>But I mean the issue is as well that if

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>she wants to have a baby soon, it will just

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>push out the wedding later because she said before that

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't want to have her wedding while she's pregnant,

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>so it does make sense. I think that her dad's

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>giving her some good advice. I'm going to be a

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit cynical here, and as much as I really

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>do want to watch the content, it is an interesting

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>time that she's now announcing that she's suddenly interested in

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>her wedding because she has just finished her renovation series

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and there is one final episode to go,

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>which is the unveiling of the project. But it seems

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like a very wise move, but also one that she's

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>taken from a business perspective to start being, oh, okay,

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start planning my wedding and sharing that.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that's an incredibly cynical way to look at it.

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what I said, introduces a cynical wedding. I think

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>that she's merely just sharing her life. I mean, I

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>think if she didn't share her wedding dress experience, or

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>she didn't share her wedding, her followers would be very,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>very disappointed. I think that's a little naive. Yes, her

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>job is to share her life, but she has become

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>known for making quite a lot of money and monetizing

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>her life events like the unveiling of Fox's name and

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>his gender review and her whole pregnancy journey, Like those

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>videos would have made her a lot of money, and

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a demand to see them, but I'm

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>just saying she is putting her business woman on and saying, Yep,

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the next lot of videos are going to be wedding focused.

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So what I don't get is why it suddenly makes

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>someone so evil to be thinking like like I'm not saying,

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:36.959
<v Speaker 1>but there's always this connotation that she's always up to something.

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>And when I watch that instant story, I was like,

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>oh wow, lots of people be excited by this because

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>we all want to have a nosy look into her wedding,

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and lots of us have seen her relationship blossom with Kery.

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people saw her meet him. Now we're

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>excited and we're invested as followers to see her wedding.

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I think that's kind of nice that

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>she's sharing it with people. It's not I get what

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. It's going to get a lot of views,

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>but let's be honest, most influencers money doesn't actually come

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>from the YouTube views, it comes from the products they

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>bring out. I am very interested to see, though, how

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>much of the wedding is sponsored. Well, this might play

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>into your hands a little bit, Kate with your theory.

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>She did tag the name of the bridle store, which

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>is Hope Times Page. I took a further look into it.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>The dresses range from about three thousand, five hundred to

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars and it's an appointment only boutique, so

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>basically you have to pay thirty dollars to have a

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>stylist there come and talk you through the dress. To me,

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that kind of sounds quite normal, though, Yeah, I would

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>have thought she, knowing her what her wealth potentially is like,

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>she would have gone even to a more expense. So

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm more mean it played into your hands because she

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>is tagging who presume movie she's getting a dressed through.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>And in no way am I saying that I am

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>begrudging this because I cannot wait to see this footage.

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it's quite interesting the timing around. That

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>being said, if you look broadly at influencers when they

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>do share some of these small boutiques. It's actually great

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>because it puts them in front of a huge new

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>customer base of people, particular during the economic crisis. It

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>is good that some of these people are getting extra exposure.

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it a Cronulla based bridal shop or did they

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>it's half an hour out of Sydney. Oh interesting. Well

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>what about Sarah's other news because she and Kurtive announce

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that they're dropping daily episodes of The Health Code, which

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>is their podcast. Well I feel a bit ripped off

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>because apparently the episodes are only five minutes long. It's

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>a very clever business move from Sarah and Kurt if

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you think about it, they have a massive audience. I

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>believe they've had around ten to twenty million downloads of

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>their regular series, which is quite rare because they don't

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>really upload on a regular basis. Yeah, it's very sporadic

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and if you think about it, they don't have to

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>put a huge amount of effort into recording a quick,

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>five minute, bite sized episode. They could literally record a

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>bunch of them, have them all ready to go. They

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>could put dynamic ads on each of those episodes, where

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you can earn quite a bit of money if you're

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>getting ten million downloads. It's also obvious because they said

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>that the episodes are only available on Spotify, So I'm

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>guessing that there's a partnership between them and Spotify and

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>they would be getting a considerable amount of money for well.

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Moving along, and someone else who's been popping up in

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>our newsfeed is jar Da twint She okay, can you

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>tell us what's happened there? Well? Jarda actually shared two

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>months ago an update to her four hundred and forty

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>four thousand followers on Instagram that she had received some

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>bad news regarding her perapsmere, which is now known as

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a cervical cancer screening. So her doctor gave her a

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>call and told her that some high grade abnormalities had

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>been found during the test and that she would need

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to go have some further investigation. Jarda also mentioned that

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>she had been diagnosed with the HPV virus, which is

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a very common virus that a lot of people now

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>know about since they've changed the screening process. So I

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>just thought it was fantastic that she was raising awareness

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>for something that so many people don't talk about. And

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>two days ago, she gave us a little bit of

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>an update, saying she'd had a biopsy taken of her

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>cervix and it did confirm that there were high grade

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>abnormalities and she is going to have to book in

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>to have a LEAP procedure, which is basically a procedure

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>where they shave a little bit of affected cells and

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>hope to remove the cells. Now that the new testing

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>has been introduced, there are so many women that are

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>getting back these results that they have HPV and that

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>there are cell changes because the test is completely different

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to what it was like a while ago. Well, I

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's really great that she is normalizing it because

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>so many women have had test results come back recently

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that say they have HPV because the testing has changed.

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's great. Well, to be completely honest,

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>at the start of the year, I had a similar scare.

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I was caught up and told that I had low

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>grade changes, and for me, it was really terrifying because

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>it is such a new test that I didn't know

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>whether it was normal or who else had experienced it.

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have heard that Sarah's Day had gone

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>through something similar, and you do feel less alone when

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>you hear that someone in the public eye has it

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and they are sharing their experience with you. I mean,

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I am lucky that mine are low grade at the moment.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I do have to go back in a year and

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.240
<v Speaker 1>see if there have been more changes, which I'm obviously

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>hoping not. Well. Like Sophie, I have been detected for

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>having some very low grade changes as well, and I

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>do have to go back and have perhaps mere now

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>once every year to ensure that those changes are monitored.

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's quite a normal thing, but I feel like,

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>as Sophie said, because it is a new test, people

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know. So when you get that call, I freaked out.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I burst into tears because I didn't quite understand it,

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and in that moment, you don't take in everything the

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>doctor is saying. And no, I just think it is so,

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>as you said, so important that people get tested because

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to be completely transparent, I had put mine off for

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>five years, which was a really stupid thing to do

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 1>because you never know when these changes are going to occur.

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>And it does give me some peace of mind now

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to have one every year for the

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>next little while. And I think, because we know cervical

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>cancer is quite preventive if you do the right thing

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and get tested, obviously not in all circumstances, but you

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>give yourself the best shot of picking something up sooner

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>if you keep up to date with your tests. Just lastly,

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we have to touch on this one.

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>People are annoyed yet again at Sophie Keshia. Yesterday she

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>was caught out by instagram page Spellcheck for flouting Melbourne's

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>restrictions again. Now she shared an instant story of herself

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>watching the Melbourne Vixen's victory, and slev Spellcheck did some

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>incredible investigation. They noticed that in the television screen there

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>were two people sitting on her couch who should not

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>have been there, and she didn't also make it half

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>obvious by the fact that she served up an enormous

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>platter full of food for apparently herself and her children.

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>This is just so frustrating. I'm just so sick of

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>her thinking she is above the rules. And surprisingly she's

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>since deleted the Instagram story. It's just so arrogant, like

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>what needs to be done for her to get it

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>through her head that she's not more important than everyone else? Scary,

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>ben new, isn't it.

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 3>That's the way the kids will threaten to beat you

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 3>up and call your names like Briefcase Wanka.

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not been like that.

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 3>No, it wasn't for me either.

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>The privilege of the AFL continues, with special allowances made

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.919
<v Speaker 1>to ensure the Brownload Metal went ahead on Sunday night.

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>What you guys think about this? Because I was appalled.

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Are we really surprised? I mean the AFL have been

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 1>able to get away doing whatever they want this year

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>because it seems that money talks in this in this country,

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>and the AFL seems to be above everybody. Done. A

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>boys club talks as well. The AFL players they've been

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>granted special privileges all year long. Yeah, and then they

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>seem to think, oh, they've sacrificed a lot. Well, they've

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>got to continue playing the game that they've wanted to

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>play when so many other people are out of jobs,

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>when so many other people haven't even seen their family

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>for months on end. Well, and I know we've seen

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>special privileges in relation to them being allowed to, you know,

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>do what they want in Queensland, but I was quite

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>shocked the AFL allowed Victorian teams to come back to

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Melbourne and hold celebrations in a venue in Melbourne. Really

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>what And this is before any changes to the lockdown,

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>or despite the changes, this still isn't allowed in the

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>current lockdown. Well, it makes me really concerned about what

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>is going to happen when the Grand Final happens next week.

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>They're going to be secret Grand Final parties that are happening.

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Are they going to be you know, people parading through

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the streets? Who knows what is going to go on?

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Just to clarify, Melbourne players were at Channel seven studios

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>in Melbourne and there were other teams celebrating in different

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>locations around the country. Now, they were at socially distanced functions,

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>so basically they were set up in a way where

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>people were Supposedly the couples were one point five meters

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 1>apart from other couples. Yeah, I just think it's all

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>for show. I mean, I doubt they were keeping their

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>distance once the cameras stopped rolling and they had a

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>few drinks into them. What pisces me off though, is

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 1>literally every Christmas event has been canceled, Like you can't

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>go to carols by candlelight they're all you know, all

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the local Christmas events have been canceled. But oh we

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>can go sit in a football stadium and watch the game,

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and the AFL players can do whatever they want and

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>socialize and dream can It's ridiculous. As much as I'm

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>cut about Christmas celebrations being canceled, I would be beside

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>myself if I had had a family member pass away

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>during COVID and they were only allowed to have ten

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>people or twenty people at their funeral, and then this

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>shit's going on. Yeah, it's ridiculous. What did you guys

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>think about the whole red carpet situation, because obviously there

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a red carpet in the traditional sense, but the

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 1>wags very much did show off their clothing. Did you

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.720
<v Speaker 1>see it as maybe a distraction for everyone in Melbourne,

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, a nice thing to look at the fashion

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>out there because everyone's been stuck inside in their lounge

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>where or did you see it as quite tone deaf?

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say I thought it was tone deaf people

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>showing off their wealth and wearing expensive fancy dresses to

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>an event when Melbourne has been in lockdown for so long. Now.

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh look, I'm in two minds because you know we're

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>ragging on the AFL, But I can see the positives

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of having the AFL season go ahead because it does

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:52.439
<v Speaker 1>bring a lot of joy to a lot of people

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>who are stuck at home. People love watching the football.

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:56.720
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying that you think people would like the dresses.

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so I'm saying the same thing goes I

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 1>suppose with the brown Let's be honest, most people watch

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>it to see what the wives and the girlfriends are wearing.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 1>That being said, they were told by the AFL that

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't essential to stick to the black tie dress code.

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.280
<v Speaker 1>In saying that, as we touched them before with Sarah

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>promoting the Bridal Bridal boutique, is it good for some

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of the wags to be promoting some of these designers

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 1>who were probably struggling as well. Look, there's positive and negatives.

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>people that are in the lockdown at the moment, and

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>it would piss me off if I saw these wags

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>showing off the beautiful dresses they were wearing in the events,

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>nicking well, why are you above me?

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I get that about the fact that they're at an

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>event that they probably shouldn't be at, but I also think, well,

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>what are they meant to wear to this were they

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>meant to rock up in the tracking dat just off

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the topic of fashion. I was really frustrated because on

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>the same day of the brown Low, the Melbourne Vixens

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 1>won the sun Corps Supernetbull Premiership. Now this is a

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>massive story, well should be a massive story in Victoria,

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and it was relegated to a one page article in

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the Herald Sun. The Brownlow took up the front page

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and the back page. Yeah exactly, So there's a little

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 1>insert of the fact that, yeah, the Vixens had won

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>about you know, very small, and then the full page

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>photo on the front and back page was of Lucky

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Neil winning the Brownlow. This pissed me off because not

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>only did they not really get much coverage on the

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>front or the back page, you know, the one article inside,

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>but the AFL had a total of eleven pages of

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>content in the newspaper. So there were five pages about

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Brownlow fashion, a double page spread about the night, and

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>then four pages about the AFL Grand Final. Now, if

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the Richmond Tigers had won the Grand Final, I'm sure

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>they would have not had one page written about them.

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you think this is a sort of a political

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.439
<v Speaker 1>thing whereas the AFL are saying to the paper, look,

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>if you want to cover the AFL Grand Final, you

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>have to print about the brownlow and all of that

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. Or do you think it's the fact

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that most people care more about the football than they

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>do about the net Well, I think they would perceive

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that most people care. But I mean, you've got to

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>look at the huge number of women who want to

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 1>be seeing more female sports publicized in the paper. I

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>don't get why they couldn't, you know, have the brown

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>way on the front of the paper and the netball

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.240
<v Speaker 1>on the back, like not have what do you need both? Well,

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the thing that annoys me is if it was the

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>rich men women's football team that had won, they probably

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>would have put it on the back page. And that

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>was my point about the AFL. The AFL seemed to

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>have a monopoly on the newspaper and they seem to,

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, advantage different media who cover all of their

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>various men's and women's events. You know, working in the media,

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<v Speaker 1>we are aware that the AFL tell journalists that if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't promote the women's AFL then we will not

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<v Speaker 1>give you access to the men. So it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly tough for other female sports because at the moment

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<v Speaker 1>there is a quota where really journalists will only put

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<v Speaker 1>in one female based sports story. I used to work

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<v Speaker 1>as a communication manager for the Adelaide Thunderbirds and it

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<v Speaker 1>was so difficult to get coverage about their sport in

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<v Speaker 1>the paper. So I'm really shocked though, because I would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought winning a Grand Final might give you some

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<v Speaker 1>good coverage. I think what also caps off this quite

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<v Speaker 1>vulgar display from the AFL is the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>cry poor, yet then have the money to dig up

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<v Speaker 1>the dirt from the MCG, put it in a truck

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>where the grass the grass, the dirt on the grass

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<v Speaker 1>from the MCG, put it in a refrigerated truck and

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<v Speaker 1>drive it all the way to Queensland. I actually thought

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck. I actually thought this was a joke, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell Are they that pick headed that they

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<v Speaker 1>think the MCG turf is so sacred that it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be flown or driven to Queensland? What the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>It's the most absurd thing I think I've ever heard. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>one takeaway point is the AFL season will be over

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<v Speaker 1>next week, but I'm just guessing there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of uproar over everyone's Mad Monday celebration. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what will be. Apparently it's been canceled, but we'll wait. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I am intrigued to see that now the season is over.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the Hannah Orville who dates a North Melbourne player,

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<v Speaker 1>whether she will finally return home or wish whether she

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>will stay in Queensland living it up with her brother.

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I would put a bet on the fact that she'll

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<v Speaker 1>be staying there with her mother, Sharon, who is now

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<v Speaker 1>a Queensland resident. Well, that's probably all we have time for.

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