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Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kay and

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Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have

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Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers

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Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women.

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Speaker 1: That is so fat. Thank you, hello, and welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Outspoken. Now. We thought we would start the episode

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Speaker 1: by giving you a little bit of an insight into

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Speaker 1: what it's really like working with your sisters. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's no secret that we argue from time to time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've had full blown arguments on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I've even listened back to the start of episodes where

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Speaker 1: my voice is like hoarse because we've had like a

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Speaker 1: very heated argument before we've got into recording about what

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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about. Yeah. Well, the other night,

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Speaker 1: we all had a girls' night at Sophie's house and

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Speaker 1: we decided to watch the Veronica's Reality MTV show, and

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I've never related to a clip of

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Speaker 1: two people fighting ever so much in my life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I felt like it really encapsulates what our arguments are

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Speaker 1: like without having to actually air our own dirty pountry

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Speaker 1: and show really what we argue like, I think we

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Speaker 1: should go to a clip and have a listen at

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Speaker 1: how they fight with each other.

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Speaker 2: So Lese forgot the black latex bodysuit again. I had

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Speaker 2: to pack three suitcases full of stuff, and I had

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Speaker 2: all the beads, all the dresses, the blue and the

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Speaker 2: pink lab It's.

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Speaker 1: Too much responsibility.

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Speaker 2: I remember read a minute.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind listen to me. You have it. No,

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Speaker 1: you had the red and the black latex.

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Speaker 2: I have the red, you have the black from hands,

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Speaker 2: you have the latex bodysuit from the Heaven Party. I'll

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Speaker 2: go find the text message back.

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Speaker 1: Now go find that that good. I will once I

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Speaker 1: actually have the time. Now, you took my makeup? Where

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Speaker 1: take your makeup?

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Speaker 2: It's probably sitting in the same place with the black latex.

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Speaker 2: You are a nightmare to be around. I packed both

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Speaker 2: of the knee.

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Speaker 1: Shut the fight. Told you.

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Speaker 2: I will take into pack everything that I you have

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Speaker 2: for the right of having any opinion right now unless

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Speaker 2: you show respect.

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Speaker 1: When I'm speaking and stop.

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Speaker 2: It's not like we don't have a billion other options,

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Speaker 2: I know, but literally the black Latex is actually a

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Speaker 3: And you know that.

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Speaker 1: No, Jess, honestly say I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Don't say no, I say I apologizing, and you don't

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Speaker 2: have apologie, because I'm not enabling your behavior right now.

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Speaker 2: So Hi, your hair gets the more bitchy you're becoming.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I loved about this fight is the

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Speaker 1: fact that they are openly arguing in front of a

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Speaker 1: room full of people, and I just love how awkward

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Speaker 1: the people look. I really felt for our best friend

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Speaker 1: Owen because I felt like it showed what she must

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Speaker 1: feel like in those moments where Sophie, Amy and I

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Speaker 1: not to like be on anyone side. Do you know what?

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Speaker 1: Though so many people have told us that our fights

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Speaker 1: are funny to watch, and watching them, I finally understood, Oh,

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Speaker 1: it actually is quite entertaining. It also brought me back

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Speaker 1: to a fight that we had on our girls trip

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Speaker 1: with Owen in Penang, where it was a fight about communism,

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Speaker 1: of all things. But that's the thing, Like, not that

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Speaker 1: arguments we have are brought on by the most minute

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Speaker 1: thing I think though the topic in question is not

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Speaker 1: usually what where the argument is stemming from. It's usually

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Speaker 1: The other bit of the Veronica's fight I really related

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Speaker 1: to is how they overcome their argument. So let's have

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Speaker 1: a listen to this clip.

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Speaker 2: As soon as you hear I start to call each other,

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Speaker 2: the white flag is waving.

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Speaker 1: And even just do it around there and do it

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Speaker 2: If I had the black Wave ex bodyuit, this could have.

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Speaker 3: Been a month.

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Speaker 1: This is us to a tea. I mean, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be honest. We've lived with each other for thirty years,

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Speaker 1: There's been shoes thrown at each other's, the muffin throwing incident.

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Speaker 1: The worst thing is that sometimes these arguments would be

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Speaker 1: pop up when we live together and like Brandon will

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Speaker 1: point where it's you know, quite a crazy fight. But literally,

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Speaker 1: I'd say ten minutes later, we will just be putting

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Speaker 1: on these little voices to each other and calling it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they cute little names, darling, stop it, and literally everything

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Speaker 1: will be fine. It's our boyfriends can't work it out.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what's funny seeing how other siblings resolve

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Speaker 1: Or We're going to put the question in our Facebook group,

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Speaker 1: which has outspoken the podcast Facebook community, and we want

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Speaker 1: to know, what are the biggest arguments you've ever had

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Speaker 1: what's the biggest argument you've had over something ridiculously small?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter. Yeah, what triggers the arguments? Because

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Speaker 1: for us it's usually clothes and make up, boyfriends stealing

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Speaker 1: as we said, communism apparently is another point of argument.

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Speaker 1: My influencer James Charles has hit out at Instagram, claiming

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on what James Charles said? Well,

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Speaker 1: I really love the fact that James Charles came out

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Speaker 3: There has been a massive major change in the Instagram

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Speaker 3: algorithm that I have noticed, the other big have noticed,

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Speaker 3: small artists have definitely noticed because it affects them the most.

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Speaker 3: And Instagram is sitting here adding all these features that

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Speaker 1: So I thought this was a really interesting point that

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Speaker 1: it is affecting his business. But what about the people

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Speaker 1: who are small creators or small businesses. I mean, a

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Speaker 1: lot of businesses. And it's really difficult if the creators

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Speaker 1: going to have a trickle down effect to brands, because

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Speaker 1: brands aren't going to know why people are getting a

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent decrease, and they're going to assume that

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Speaker 1: I've got a theory. Did Instagram get rid of likes?

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Speaker 1: So that it wouldn't be a parent how much this

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Speaker 1: privy to all of his stats. Well, James Charles has

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Speaker 1: and all it points to is the fact that Instagram

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Speaker 1: So Instagram IGTVV creators now have the option to turn

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Speaker 1: that door then changing. Oh god, I would have loved

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Speaker 1: There's also they've made some changes to reels. Now reels

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Speaker 1: you guys know about this one? So Instagram, to celebrate

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Speaker 1: the page down until you see confetti animation, and then

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Speaker 1: it will allow you to choose between like the normal

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Speaker 1: like it's all smoke and mirrors. They're introducing all of

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Speaker 1: the algorithm has changed and that this will drastically affect

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Speaker 1: businesses online. Well, that's exactly what James Child said. He said,

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Speaker 1: while Instagram are bringing in all these new features, they're

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Speaker 1: are having a problem with, number one being the algorithm change. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: for me, it's quite obvious that Instagram have a real

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Speaker 1: focus on monetization and commos, which is what the top

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Speaker 1: hinted more audience insights may soon be available to businesses

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Speaker 1: and creator accounts. But to me, it's what they're actually

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Speaker 1: issue is that for a long time, influencers have been

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Speaker 1: of the twentieth century we saw more people traveling for

433
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 1: the first time, so sun tanning became something that was

434
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 1: actually glamorous and showed wealth rather than representing poverty. So

435
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: for the first time it was really cool and glamorous

436
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 1: to have a tan. Well. I don't know about other people,

437
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's pretty easy to spot the

438
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: English people when you're overseas. So when we've holidayed in Malaysia,

439
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: you can see the people a mile away because they're

440
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: often completely sunburned and bread and they just spend their

441
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: whole holiday sun baking. But it's say that for Australians

442
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 1: as well. But that's the thing. After speaking to a

443
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: number of people in our community and also doing our research,

444
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 1: it's actually crazy because tanning beds were first developed in

445
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,479
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety one by the man who created Kellogg's corn flakes,

446
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: and they were brought out because they said they were

447
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 1: really good for you, so they helped you with vitamin D.

448
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: So I think that there's this ingrained theory amongst the

449
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 1: UK that oh, it's really healthy to go into these things.

450
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: And it shocked me there are actually eight thousand sun

451
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: tanning beds in the UK. It grows because in Australia

452
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: they've been banned because we know that they're not healthy

453
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 1: at all, that they're very dangerous. They're carcinogenic at the

454
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: end of the day. Studies show that even just one

455
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: session in one of these sun beds can increase your

456
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: chances of melanoma by twenty percent and your chances of

457
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: other skin cancers increased by sixty seven percent. And that

458
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: is just one time in a sunbed. That is so scary.

459
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: I know of so many people that have actually used

460
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: suntanning beds back in the day, probably like ten fifteen

461
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: years ago. It's crazy because the stats show that between

462
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: the ages of fifteen to thirty four, the most common

463
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: cancer is skin cancer. And it's not a surprise when

464
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: you go for a walk down one of the main

465
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: streets in England, there are sunbed places everywhere. And what's

466
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: most disturbing is that children are using these beds. It

467
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: showed that forty three percent of fourteen to sixteen year

468
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: olds have used sun tanning beds at least once, and

469
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: an even more disturbing stats showed that eight to eleven

470
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: year olds are using sun tanning beds, with seven percent

471
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 1: of these children using them once every fortnight. What the hell, Like,

472
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: I just it blows my mind. Growing up, our mum

473
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: was so vigilant about sun care, like and I feel

474
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: so lucky that she was. I mean, we hated it,

475
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: having to put suncream on every day and wearing hats

476
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: and wearing rashes, but I am so thankful now it

477
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: is so scary to think that these kids are putting

478
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: themselves at risk of melanoma. But the thing is what's

479
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: sad is the parents think that they're probably doing the

480
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: right thing because it's been ingrained in them that it's

481
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: healthy to have as suntan, it's healthy to get vitamin D.

482
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: So they're probably thinking, oh, yeah, I'll let the kids

483
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: go in there. They don't get much sun. I wonder

484
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: if it's got anything to do with shows like Jeordie

485
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Shaw and The Only Ways Es six, because a lot

486
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: of them promote sun beds and obviously fake tan as well.

487
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: But we I mean Molly May herself promotes tanning, which

488
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: I found was kind of not ironic, but it was

489
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: interesting that she obviously a bit of a big part

490
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: of her image is having a beautiful tan, or even

491
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: inside the villa on Love Island, they're constantly out sun baking,

492
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: and you do wonder if they are provided with suncream. Well,

493
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I thought of because watching it

494
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: from a perspective of always being forced to wear sun

495
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: cream as a kid. When I watched them tanning basically

496
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: all day in very like small clothing like bathers, I

497
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: kind of made me feel sick, and all I could

498
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: think of was, oh my gosh, their poor skin. And

499
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: I do wonder if Love Island has any sort of

500
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: OHS safety obligations considering it essentially was a workplace, and

501
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: there are some rumors that they do make them wear

502
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: bikinis during the day and that they made to sit outside.

503
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: So well, the thing is that skin cancers can happen

504
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 1: to anybody. You can be out in the sun. It

505
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: only takes a few times getting burnt, and so in

506
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: that sense, it is of course the responsibility of the

507
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: person to wear suncream. And you know, as I said,

508
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: you can get burnt a few times and pick up

509
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: a skin cancer. So we don't want to be blaming anyone.

510
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to blame anyone, but there are definitely

511
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: obligations that workplaces have to take on board. And it

512
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: would be, for example, if you were working putting music

513
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: together and we're always listening to loud concerts, then your

514
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: hearing is going to be affected. So there are steps

515
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: in place that workplaces need to provide you with adequate protection.

516
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: So it's the same thing with suncream on a show

517
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: like Love Island, where you're outside all the time. That

518
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: being said, this could be Love Island's huge opportunity to

519
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: promote suncream as a cool thing to wear. They need

520
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: to be showing the contestants putting on the sun cream.

521
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: I really hope, So I really hope they do that,

522
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: But I also hope that they shut down some of

523
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: these bloody sun beds. It's really disturbing because stats show

524
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: that in the last three decades the rates of skin

525
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: cancer have quadrupled and it is down to these bloody

526
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: sun beds. If you I could walk through the main

527
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: streets of England, there are so many of these beds

528
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: out there and it's really disturbing because there's even slot

529
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: machines where you can go and just put a couple

530
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: of a couple of coins in one of these machines.

531
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: There's no one working there, so it's not regulated. Kids

532
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: can go in them, it's not regulated how long you're

533
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: in these machines, what type of skin you have. It's

534
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: just disgusting. Well do you not really disturbs me. They

535
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: have been shut down in Australia, which is fantastic, but

536
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: you can still purchase sun beds in Australia, So I

537
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: have a friend who has a sunbed that uses it

538
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: at home. When I was working at Today tonight, we

539
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: did a story about sunbed usage and this was on

540
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: the cusp of when they were going to be outlawed,

541
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: and you actually had to fill in a little survey

542
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: of what your skin was like, except you could totally

543
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: botch it. I could say that I had olive skin

544
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: and they'd let me in straight away. So they actually

545
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: need to outlaw it completely because you can't be trusted

546
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: like people can't be trusted to. It's definitely to be

547
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: self regulation show exactly well. I really hope in the

548
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks that we do hear some good

549
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: news from Molly May about her surgery, and it's just

550
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: really great that she is shining a light on the matter. Scy,

551
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: let's get into our influencer rap, so can you start

552
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: us off? We really have to take our hats off

553
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: to Instagram page celeb spellcheck for this one. They were

554
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: first to break this story, and it is of course

555
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: that Sky Wheatley has announced baby number two is on

556
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: the way, and so let's spell check. They were on

557
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: this a few weeks ago. They were picking up the

558
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: signs before anyone else noticed. So for those who haven't

559
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: seen it, Sky made the announcement with a photo shoot

560
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: which was professionally styled and her family posed in beige

561
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: outfits outside of White mansion and they basically held up

562
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: a sonogram showing their new baby. Yeah, and Sky had

563
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: been talking about this photo shoot for quite a few weeks,

564
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: so it was kind of obvious that this is going

565
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: to happen. So we were just really waiting for the

566
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: photo to drop. And I don't think it disappointed. It

567
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: was very sky. It was very over the top and

568
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: really didn't make much sense as to why they needed

569
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: to have a full on photo shoot and video shoot.

570
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: Well three weeks ago, she posted a rather misleading photos

571
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: which made her followers believe that she was actually having twins.

572
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: She posted a selfie where Lockie had his hand on

573
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: her stomach. I was I say fox, which one forest

574
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: was in the photo? And she wrote and then there

575
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: were five. Now, for those who actually had ego eyes,

576
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: they would have spotted that their dash hounds, Winston and

577
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: crunchyet was seen in the background, so that's who she

578
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: was apparently indicating to. So her comments were filled with

579
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: people being like, oh my god, this is the pregnancy announcement,

580
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: So she responded in her comments confirming that she wasn't

581
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: pregnant and that the next baby announcement would be far

582
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: more epic than a mirror selfie. The announcement did kind

583
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: of make more sense as to why she was reminiscing

584
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: over old photos of herself and her smaller waist. Yeah,

585
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: it definitely did bring a bit more context there. I'm

586
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: looking forward to finding out what she's going to name

587
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: this child and what the sex if it's going to

588
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: be, because with a name like Forest, I don't think she's

589
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: going to have a regular boy or girl's name.

590
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: I know.

591
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm also hoping, I mean, I hope it's just a

592
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: healthy baby, but I would love to see her with

593
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: a girl. I'd find that very interesting to see how

594
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: she dresses her up. And also what I'm looking forward

595
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: to seeing is more of those epic McDonald's woun So

596
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: once they had done their photo shoot and announced it,

597
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: Sky was putting on her story that they went and

598
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: got there was like two massive bags of McDonald's between

599
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: the two of them. Also, she also had that epic

600
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: chocolate pudding as well. I was made me so hungry

601
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: and I very much look forward to more of that

602
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: sort of content. Well. Another influencer he's been talking about

603
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: big life events is Sarah's Day. I found this one

604
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: so exciting. On Sunday, Sarah announced to her followers that

605
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: she would be going a wedding dress shopping for the

606
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: first time now. Of course, Sarah and Kirk got engaged

607
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: in Hawaii in December last year, and two months ago

608
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: they shared a vlog where they traveled to Byron Bay

609
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: to plan their wedding and basically Sarah talked about the

610
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: fact that they have put the wedding plans on hold

611
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: while she's renovating and also while her cooking project is

612
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: nearing its end. Sarah did admit, though, that she had

613
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: a bit of an intervention and disagreement with her father,

614
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: who said that she needs to make it a priority

615
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: to get married. Sarah's dad seems quite religious. Yeah, and

616
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: Sarah has been speaking about the fact that she wants

617
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: to have a sibling for Fox sometime soon. So he said, hey, Sarah,

618
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: if you don't do this now, you'll never get married. Yeah.

619
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: But I mean the issue is as well that if

620
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: she wants to have a baby soon, it will just

621
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: push out the wedding later because she said before that

622
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to have her wedding while she's pregnant,

623
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: so it does make sense. I think that her dad's

624
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: giving her some good advice. I'm going to be a

625
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: little bit cynical here, and as much as I really

626
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: do want to watch the content, it is an interesting

627
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: time that she's now announcing that she's suddenly interested in

628
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: her wedding because she has just finished her renovation series

629
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: on YouTube and there is one final episode to go,

630
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: which is the unveiling of the project. But it seems

631
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: like a very wise move, but also one that she's

632
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: taken from a business perspective to start being, oh, okay,

633
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to start planning my wedding and sharing that.

634
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: I think that's an incredibly cynical way to look at it.

635
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: That's what I said, introduces a cynical wedding. I think

636
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: that she's merely just sharing her life. I mean, I

637
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: think if she didn't share her wedding dress experience, or

638
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: she didn't share her wedding, her followers would be very,

639
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: very disappointed. I think that's a little naive. Yes, her

640
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: job is to share her life, but she has become

641
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: known for making quite a lot of money and monetizing

642
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: her life events like the unveiling of Fox's name and

643
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: his gender review and her whole pregnancy journey, Like those

644
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: videos would have made her a lot of money, and

645
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: I know there's a demand to see them, but I'm

646
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: just saying she is putting her business woman on and saying, Yep,

647
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: the next lot of videos are going to be wedding focused.

648
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: So what I don't get is why it suddenly makes

649
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: someone so evil to be thinking like like I'm not saying,

650
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 1: but there's always this connotation that she's always up to something.

651
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: And when I watch that instant story, I was like,

652
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: oh wow, lots of people be excited by this because

653
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: we all want to have a nosy look into her wedding,

654
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: and lots of us have seen her relationship blossom with Kery.

655
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: A lot of people saw her meet him. Now we're

656
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: excited and we're invested as followers to see her wedding.

657
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: So for me, I think that's kind of nice that

658
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: she's sharing it with people. It's not I get what

659
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: you're saying. It's going to get a lot of views,

660
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: but let's be honest, most influencers money doesn't actually come

661
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: from the YouTube views, it comes from the products they

662
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: bring out. I am very interested to see, though, how

663
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: much of the wedding is sponsored. Well, this might play

664
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: into your hands a little bit, Kate with your theory.

665
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: She did tag the name of the bridle store, which

666
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: is Hope Times Page. I took a further look into it.

667
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: The dresses range from about three thousand, five hundred to

668
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars and it's an appointment only boutique, so

669
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: basically you have to pay thirty dollars to have a

670
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: stylist there come and talk you through the dress. To me,

671
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: that kind of sounds quite normal, though, Yeah, I would

672
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: have thought she, knowing her what her wealth potentially is like,

673
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: she would have gone even to a more expense. So

674
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: I'm more mean it played into your hands because she

675
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: is tagging who presume movie she's getting a dressed through.

676
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: And in no way am I saying that I am

677
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: begrudging this because I cannot wait to see this footage.

678
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's quite interesting the timing around. That

679
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: being said, if you look broadly at influencers when they

680
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: do share some of these small boutiques. It's actually great

681
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: because it puts them in front of a huge new

682
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: customer base of people, particular during the economic crisis. It

683
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: is good that some of these people are getting extra exposure.

684
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Is it a Cronulla based bridal shop or did they

685
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: it's half an hour out of Sydney. Oh interesting. Well

686
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: what about Sarah's other news because she and Kurtive announce

687
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: that they're dropping daily episodes of The Health Code, which

688
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: is their podcast. Well I feel a bit ripped off

689
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: because apparently the episodes are only five minutes long. It's

690
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: a very clever business move from Sarah and Kurt if

691
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: you think about it, they have a massive audience. I

692
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: believe they've had around ten to twenty million downloads of

693
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: their regular series, which is quite rare because they don't

694
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: really upload on a regular basis. Yeah, it's very sporadic

695
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: and if you think about it, they don't have to

696
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: put a huge amount of effort into recording a quick,

697
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: five minute, bite sized episode. They could literally record a

698
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: bunch of them, have them all ready to go. They

699
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: could put dynamic ads on each of those episodes, where

700
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: you can earn quite a bit of money if you're

701
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: getting ten million downloads. It's also obvious because they said

702
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: that the episodes are only available on Spotify, So I'm

703
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: guessing that there's a partnership between them and Spotify and

704
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: they would be getting a considerable amount of money for well.

705
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Moving along, and someone else who's been popping up in

706
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: our newsfeed is jar Da twint She okay, can you

707
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: tell us what's happened there? Well? Jarda actually shared two

708
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: months ago an update to her four hundred and forty

709
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: four thousand followers on Instagram that she had received some

710
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: bad news regarding her perapsmere, which is now known as

711
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: a cervical cancer screening. So her doctor gave her a

712
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: call and told her that some high grade abnormalities had

713
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: been found during the test and that she would need

714
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: to go have some further investigation. Jarda also mentioned that

715
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: she had been diagnosed with the HPV virus, which is

716
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: a very common virus that a lot of people now

717
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: know about since they've changed the screening process. So I

718
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: just thought it was fantastic that she was raising awareness

719
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: for something that so many people don't talk about. And

720
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: two days ago, she gave us a little bit of

721
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: an update, saying she'd had a biopsy taken of her

722
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: cervix and it did confirm that there were high grade

723
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: abnormalities and she is going to have to book in

724
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: to have a LEAP procedure, which is basically a procedure

725
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: where they shave a little bit of affected cells and

726
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: hope to remove the cells. Now that the new testing

727
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: has been introduced, there are so many women that are

728
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: getting back these results that they have HPV and that

729
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: there are cell changes because the test is completely different

730
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: to what it was like a while ago. Well, I

731
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: think it's really great that she is normalizing it because

732
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: so many women have had test results come back recently

733
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: that say they have HPV because the testing has changed.

734
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: So I think it's great. Well, to be completely honest,

735
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: at the start of the year, I had a similar scare.

736
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: I was caught up and told that I had low

737
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: grade changes, and for me, it was really terrifying because

738
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: it is such a new test that I didn't know

739
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: whether it was normal or who else had experienced it.

740
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I have heard that Sarah's Day had gone

741
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: through something similar, and you do feel less alone when

742
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: you hear that someone in the public eye has it

743
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: and they are sharing their experience with you. I mean,

744
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: I am lucky that mine are low grade at the moment.

745
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: I do have to go back in a year and

746
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: see if there have been more changes, which I'm obviously

747
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: hoping not. Well. Like Sophie, I have been detected for

748
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: having some very low grade changes as well, and I

749
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: do have to go back and have perhaps mere now

750
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: once every year to ensure that those changes are monitored.

751
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: And it's quite a normal thing, but I feel like,

752
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: as Sophie said, because it is a new test, people

753
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: don't know. So when you get that call, I freaked out.

754
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: I burst into tears because I didn't quite understand it,

755
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: and in that moment, you don't take in everything the

756
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: doctor is saying. And no, I just think it is so,

757
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: as you said, so important that people get tested because

758
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: to be completely transparent, I had put mine off for

759
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: five years, which was a really stupid thing to do

760
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: because you never know when these changes are going to occur.

761
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: And it does give me some peace of mind now

762
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: that I'm going to have one every year for the

763
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: next little while. And I think, because we know cervical

764
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: cancer is quite preventive if you do the right thing

765
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: and get tested, obviously not in all circumstances, but you

766
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: give yourself the best shot of picking something up sooner

767
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: if you keep up to date with your tests. Just lastly,

768
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: I feel like we have to touch on this one.

769
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: People are annoyed yet again at Sophie Keshia. Yesterday she

770
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: was caught out by instagram page Spellcheck for flouting Melbourne's

771
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: restrictions again. Now she shared an instant story of herself

772
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: watching the Melbourne Vixen's victory, and slev Spellcheck did some

773
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: incredible investigation. They noticed that in the television screen there

774
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: were two people sitting on her couch who should not

775
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: have been there, and she didn't also make it half

776
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: obvious by the fact that she served up an enormous

777
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: platter full of food for apparently herself and her children.

778
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: This is just so frustrating. I'm just so sick of

779
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: her thinking she is above the rules. And surprisingly she's

780
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: since deleted the Instagram story. It's just so arrogant, like

781
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: what needs to be done for her to get it

782
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: through her head that she's not more important than everyone else? Scary,

783
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: ben new, isn't it.

784
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: That's the way the kids will threaten to beat you

785
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: up and call your names like Briefcase Wanka.

786
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: It's not been like that.

787
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't for me either.

788
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: The privilege of the AFL continues, with special allowances made

789
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: to ensure the Brownload Metal went ahead on Sunday night.

790
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: What you guys think about this? Because I was appalled.

791
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Are we really surprised? I mean the AFL have been

792
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: able to get away doing whatever they want this year

793
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: because it seems that money talks in this in this country,

794
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: and the AFL seems to be above everybody. Done. A

795
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: boys club talks as well. The AFL players they've been

796
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: granted special privileges all year long. Yeah, and then they

797
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: seem to think, oh, they've sacrificed a lot. Well, they've

798
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: got to continue playing the game that they've wanted to

799
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: play when so many other people are out of jobs,

800
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: when so many other people haven't even seen their family

801
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: for months on end. Well, and I know we've seen

802
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: special privileges in relation to them being allowed to, you know,

803
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: do what they want in Queensland, but I was quite

804
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: shocked the AFL allowed Victorian teams to come back to

805
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 1: Melbourne and hold celebrations in a venue in Melbourne. Really

806
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: what And this is before any changes to the lockdown,

807
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: or despite the changes, this still isn't allowed in the

808
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: current lockdown. Well, it makes me really concerned about what

809
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: is going to happen when the Grand Final happens next week.

810
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: They're going to be secret Grand Final parties that are happening.

811
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: Are they going to be you know, people parading through

812
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: the streets? Who knows what is going to go on?

813
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: Just to clarify, Melbourne players were at Channel seven studios

814
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: in Melbourne and there were other teams celebrating in different

815
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: locations around the country. Now, they were at socially distanced functions,

816
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: so basically they were set up in a way where

817
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: people were Supposedly the couples were one point five meters

818
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: apart from other couples. Yeah, I just think it's all

819
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: for show. I mean, I doubt they were keeping their

820
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: distance once the cameras stopped rolling and they had a

821
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: few drinks into them. What pisces me off though, is

822
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: literally every Christmas event has been canceled, Like you can't

823
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: go to carols by candlelight they're all you know, all

824
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: the local Christmas events have been canceled. But oh we

825
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: can go sit in a football stadium and watch the game,

826
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: and the AFL players can do whatever they want and

827
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: socialize and dream can It's ridiculous. As much as I'm

828
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: cut about Christmas celebrations being canceled, I would be beside

829
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: myself if I had had a family member pass away

830
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: during COVID and they were only allowed to have ten

831
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: people or twenty people at their funeral, and then this

832
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: shit's going on. Yeah, it's ridiculous. What did you guys

833
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: think about the whole red carpet situation, because obviously there

834
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a red carpet in the traditional sense, but the

835
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: wags very much did show off their clothing. Did you

836
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: see it as maybe a distraction for everyone in Melbourne,

837
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, a nice thing to look at the fashion

838
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: out there because everyone's been stuck inside in their lounge

839
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: where or did you see it as quite tone deaf?

840
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: I gotta say I thought it was tone deaf people

841
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: showing off their wealth and wearing expensive fancy dresses to

842
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: an event when Melbourne has been in lockdown for so long. Now.

843
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: Oh look, I'm in two minds because you know we're

844
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: ragging on the AFL, But I can see the positives

845
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: of having the AFL season go ahead because it does

846
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: bring a lot of joy to a lot of people

847
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: who are stuck at home. People love watching the football.

848
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: So you're saying that you think people would like the dresses.

849
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I'm saying the same thing goes I

850
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: suppose with the brown Let's be honest, most people watch

851
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: it to see what the wives and the girlfriends are wearing.

852
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: That being said, they were told by the AFL that

853
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't essential to stick to the black tie dress code.

854
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: In saying that, as we touched them before with Sarah

855
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: promoting the Bridal Bridal boutique, is it good for some

856
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: of the wags to be promoting some of these designers

857
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: who were probably struggling as well. Look, there's positive and negatives.

858
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of

859
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: people that are in the lockdown at the moment, and

860
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: it would piss me off if I saw these wags

861
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: showing off the beautiful dresses they were wearing in the events,

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Speaker 1: nicking well, why are you above me?

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I get that about the fact that they're at an

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Speaker 1: event that they probably shouldn't be at, but I also think, well,

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Speaker 1: what are they meant to wear to this were they

867
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: meant to rock up in the tracking dat just off

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00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: the topic of fashion. I was really frustrated because on

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Speaker 1: the same day of the brown Low, the Melbourne Vixens

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00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: won the sun Corps Supernetbull Premiership. Now this is a

871
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: massive story, well should be a massive story in Victoria,

872
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: and it was relegated to a one page article in

873
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: the Herald Sun. The Brownlow took up the front page

874
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: and the back page. Yeah exactly, So there's a little

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00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: insert of the fact that, yeah, the Vixens had won

876
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: about you know, very small, and then the full page

877
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: photo on the front and back page was of Lucky

878
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Neil winning the Brownlow. This pissed me off because not

879
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: only did they not really get much coverage on the

880
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: front or the back page, you know, the one article inside,

881
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: but the AFL had a total of eleven pages of

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00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: content in the newspaper. So there were five pages about

883
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Brownlow fashion, a double page spread about the night, and

884
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: then four pages about the AFL Grand Final. Now, if

885
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: the Richmond Tigers had won the Grand Final, I'm sure

886
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: they would have not had one page written about them.

887
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: Do you think this is a sort of a political

888
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: thing whereas the AFL are saying to the paper, look,

889
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: if you want to cover the AFL Grand Final, you

890
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: have to print about the brownlow and all of that

891
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Or do you think it's the fact

892
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: that most people care more about the football than they

893
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: do about the net Well, I think they would perceive

894
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: that most people care. But I mean, you've got to

895
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: look at the huge number of women who want to

896
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: be seeing more female sports publicized in the paper. I

897
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: don't get why they couldn't, you know, have the brown

898
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: way on the front of the paper and the netball

899
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: on the back, like not have what do you need both? Well,

900
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: the thing that annoys me is if it was the

901
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: rich men women's football team that had won, they probably

902
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: would have put it on the back page. And that

903
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: was my point about the AFL. The AFL seemed to

904
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: have a monopoly on the newspaper and they seem to,

905
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: you know, advantage different media who cover all of their

906
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: various men's and women's events. You know, working in the media,

907
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: we are aware that the AFL tell journalists that if

908
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: you don't promote the women's AFL then we will not

909
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: give you access to the men. So it makes it

910
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: incredibly tough for other female sports because at the moment

911
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: there is a quota where really journalists will only put

912
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: in one female based sports story. I used to work

913
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: as a communication manager for the Adelaide Thunderbirds and it

914
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: was so difficult to get coverage about their sport in

915
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: the paper. So I'm really shocked though, because I would

916
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: have thought winning a Grand Final might give you some

917
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: good coverage. I think what also caps off this quite

918
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: vulgar display from the AFL is the fact that they

919
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: cry poor, yet then have the money to dig up

920
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: the dirt from the MCG, put it in a truck

921
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: where the grass the grass, the dirt on the grass

922
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: from the MCG, put it in a refrigerated truck and

923
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: drive it all the way to Queensland. I actually thought

924
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: the fuck. I actually thought this was a joke, Like,

925
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: what the hell Are they that pick headed that they

926
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: think the MCG turf is so sacred that it needs

927
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: to be flown or driven to Queensland? What the hell?

928
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: It's the most absurd thing I think I've ever heard. Well,

929
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: one takeaway point is the AFL season will be over

930
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: next week, but I'm just guessing there's going to be

931
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: a bit of uproar over everyone's Mad Monday celebration. That's

932
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: that's what will be. Apparently it's been canceled, but we'll wait. Well,

933
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: I am intrigued to see that now the season is over.

934
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: Where the Hannah Orville who dates a North Melbourne player,

935
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: whether she will finally return home or wish whether she

936
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: will stay in Queensland living it up with her brother.

937
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: I would put a bet on the fact that she'll

938
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: be staying there with her mother, Sharon, who is now

939
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: a Queensland resident. Well, that's probably all we have time for.

940
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941
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