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Speaker 1: It is time for the week that was, And joining

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Speaker 1: COLP we have got making his debut appearance, the Minister

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Speaker 1: for People's Sport and Culture, Jins and Charles, Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you. Hello, lovely to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. From the Northern Territory News,

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Speaker 1: we've got journalists Harry Briel, Good morning, Harry, Yeah, good

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Speaker 1: lovely to have you in the studio. And joining us

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Speaker 1: on the line this morning, we have got the opposition

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Speaker 1: leader Selena Ubo. Good morning to you, Selena.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to Katy and so all the listeners of

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Speaker 2: this Friday.

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Speaker 1: Lovely to have you on the show. Now we are

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Speaker 1: going to get straight into it because there is so

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Speaker 1: much to cover off on this morning. And as we know,

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Speaker 1: things have not been good in Alice Springs for quite

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Speaker 1: some time, but the issues of crime have flared up

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Speaker 1: over recent days and weeks. A woman allegedly raped in

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Speaker 1: officer had to draw his weapon to avoid being hit.

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Speaker 1: We know that there has been homes invaded and senior

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Speaker 1: territorians targeted. Then, on Wednesday afternoon at two thirty two

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Speaker 1: teenagers entered a home in Alice Springs, allegedly armed with weapons.

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Speaker 1: A mom was inside with her two month old baby

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Speaker 1: that her skull was fractured during that terrifying home invasion.

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Speaker 1: He spoke yesterday to the paper, asking that his identity

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Speaker 1: remained private as he processed the trauma of that incident. Now,

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Speaker 1: he said his daughter had suffered a skull fracture, but

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Speaker 1: the speedy response from the police. Now, everybody on this

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Speaker 1: panel is a parent, All of us have some kind

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Speaker 1: other three children while somebody two people who have allegedly,

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Speaker 1: now it's been revealed by the Australian newspaper, have collectively

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Speaker 1: thirty five times they were on bail. I'll get to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, when I first heard about what occurred in

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Speaker 3: our spring's my first thought actually went my son, and

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Speaker 3: You had three other kids that were there to witness it.

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Speaker 1: It's a horrifying, horrifying incident. It's making headlines around the nation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jinson, when you first found out about what

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Katie, I'm sure like all the listeners and

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Speaker 1: Well, spot on, it cannot happen again. And unfortunately we've

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Speaker 1: So we're now in a situation where the Australian newspapers

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Speaker 3: Well, this was a ticking time bomb. By the sounds

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Speaker 3: do we start with this?

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Speaker 1: Jitsum?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a pretty it's been mounting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I totally agree, and I think that's

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Speaker 4: And that means like if you're out on bill. And

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Speaker 4: if anyone is going to do any of this kind

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's totally inhumane and it's totally unacceptable. It

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Speaker 1: right now that you guys had in place.

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Speaker 2: Katie, over one hundred days ago. The COLP promised that

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Speaker 2: they would make a huge change. That's what Territorians voted for,

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Speaker 2: their new government. But what we don't understand, Katie, is

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Speaker 2: this urgent legislation that Jinson's talked about his government was

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Speaker 2: Terratorians are struggling. Why couldn't those changes, which are specifically

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Speaker 1: Well, look, people are already messaging in those Selena this

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Speaker 1: morning and saying, well, hang on a secon you guys

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Speaker 1: didn't do it for eight years.

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Speaker 4: Could be going to just do Katie.

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Speaker 2: The new Colpic government promised to change, They promised to

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Speaker 1: But do you get you get the point that I'm

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Speaker 1: making that you actually didn't do anything to the bail

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Speaker 3: Day he lives.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely get the point, Katie. I'm not disputing the

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Speaker 1: We we have got Selina Rubo in the studio with

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Speaker 1: But do you know if the Chief Minister has spoken

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Speaker 4: To say Katy operation that law was not something just

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Speaker 4: In government for three months. And I think there was

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Speaker 1: Well let's let's see what he's going today.

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Speaker 4: So again, what against is the like Chief ministries on

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Speaker 2: The three months. So you've just admitting, in the three

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Speaker 2: months of being in the CELP government there is now

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Speaker 2: a christ.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think, Selena, what I'll say. What I will

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Speaker 1: say though, is what people are saying on the tech

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Speaker 1: sign this morning is like essentially I've got one here.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was saying every time Selena or any

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Speaker 1: ALP member mentions that what the CLP has done about crime,

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Speaker 1: could you please play a recording of the previous ALP

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Speaker 1: government members parroting you know, Jaling is failing like people are,

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Speaker 1: I think getting quite frustrated by some of the messaging

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Speaker 1: now coming out from the ALP after what they feel

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Speaker 1: has been a real lack of action for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And I take on board what you're saying. I absolutely

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Speaker 1: take on board what you're saying with the CLP needing

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Speaker 1: to come out with a plan. But you know, but

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Speaker 1: for a lot of Territorians, they're saying they don't accept

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Speaker 1: You know that your calls that they're not doing enough

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Speaker 1: are appropriate given the fact that over the last eight

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Speaker 1: years things have deteriorated to the point where we've got

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Speaker 1: teenagers committing three hundred offenses combined and then they're out

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Speaker 1: on bails. So this is the frustration that the community

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Speaker 1: is feeling at this point, right right or wrongly, they're

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Speaker 1: frustrated across the board. Hang on a second, I'll keep talking.

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Speaker 1: People are frustrated across the board and they want action taken.

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Speaker 1: So I get what you're saying, but they're feeling it's

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Speaker 1: a bit rich coming from you at this point when

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Speaker 1: you guys did nothing. So what we need now is

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Speaker 1: action from everybody across both sides of politics to sort

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Speaker 1: this bullshit out. We've all had a gut for.

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Speaker 2: Me and we are very very happy as the Labor

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Speaker 2: opposition to support the seal Pia government.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like it.

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Speaker 2: We can't support something that we haven't seen, Katie. That's

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying as the leader of the opposition. I've

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Speaker 2: come out under my leadership to say we will not

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Speaker 2: be an opposition for opposition's sake. We will ask important

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Speaker 2: questions and we will support good initiatives from the seal

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Speaker 2: Peic government because again, this is not about politics. This

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Speaker 2: is about making sure the people of Alice Springs and

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Speaker 2: the rest of the finish because I made sure that

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Speaker 2: you got your say. We want to know what the

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Speaker 2: plan is for Alice Springs so we can support that.

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Speaker 2: In opposition, Katie, we have not seen the plan. We

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Speaker 2: look forward to seeing the plan. We want to know

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Speaker 2: what the plan is so we can then win.

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Speaker 1: So do we think we're at a point where where

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Speaker 1: additional resources need to be called in? Are we at

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Speaker 1: a point where the Australian Federal Police need to support

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police or where the Defense Force need

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Speaker 1: to support the Northern Territory Police. I mean I feel

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Speaker 1: for the Northern Territory Police right so when I ask

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Speaker 1: that that is in no way, shape or form criticism

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Speaker 1: against the Northern Territory Police. But what I can see

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Speaker 1: at the moment is they're facing an uphill battle where

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Speaker 1: they're arresting people, they are charging people, and then it

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Speaker 1: seems like they are being led off, you know, like

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Speaker 1: those numbers that I keep referring back to. That's where

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Speaker 1: it seems as though the breakdown is happy. But I'm

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Speaker 1: keen to hear from everybody this morning. I mean, are

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Speaker 1: we at a point where we need additional support?

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Speaker 3: Well, I would have thought, coming so close for a

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Speaker 3: federal election, if either Selpay or CHURCHI label wanted to

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Speaker 3: cash in on call of support. The time is now,

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Speaker 3: is that Paginson would now be a right time to

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Speaker 3: approach the promise again.

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Speaker 4: I spoke to the Chief Minister this morning and as

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Speaker 4: Chief Minister discussed yesterday on the media as well, everything

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Speaker 4: is on the table and again like she informed the

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Speaker 4: police commissioner to make sure like everything that he needs

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Speaker 4: to be called in. So if that's I if it's

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Speaker 4: a federal police But at this point, like what the

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Speaker 4: police is informing us is about like they got like

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Speaker 4: a crisis response. At this point, they are managing the

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Speaker 4: things and I think they don't want that support at

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Speaker 4: this point, but this can change again, So what we

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Speaker 4: want to do support, Like we don't want to interfere

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Speaker 4: with the operasional matters. At the same time, we want

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Speaker 4: to back our police, which we are doing from the government.

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Speaker 3: Selena out to you. Would you like to see ADF

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Speaker 3: troops or FP officers patrol the streets of our springs.

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Speaker 2: Harry, I think something that is being called for on

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Speaker 2: the Alice Springs community on the ground. We know that,

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Speaker 2: particularly in the different tiers of government, there has been

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Speaker 2: support for this is what Alice Springs needs as a

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Speaker 2: circuit breaker. It's up to the people of our springs

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Speaker 2: and those extra resources as well. Like we said, we

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Speaker 2: know that the Police Commissioner is calling in extra resources.

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Speaker 2: He has the power to call a curfew to create

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Speaker 2: that circuit breaker, which is what we called for in

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Speaker 2: opposition yesterday to be able to give the people of

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Speaker 2: our springs in Central Australia respite. What do we do

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Speaker 2: to move forward? There has to be a plan and

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Speaker 2: we want to support a plan, whether it's support from

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Speaker 2: the federal government, whether it's the COLP government, whether it's

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Speaker 2: an initiative through the local government. But the territory Labor

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Speaker 2: Opposition is very key to support a strong plan for

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Speaker 2: Central Australia, particularly over the next six weeks, over the

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Speaker 2: summer season, the school holiday break. That's so absolutely open

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Speaker 2: to all of that. But I think the people of

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Speaker 2: other springs have their own ideas about what they want

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Speaker 2: to see, and that's what we need to listen to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think that that's what we need to

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Speaker 1: listen to when we are seeing any of these horrendous

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Speaker 1: crimes unfolding. And what we are seeing right now is

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Speaker 1: just horrible. You know, we can all agree on that,

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Speaker 1: we might all disagree about the delivery at different times

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Speaker 1: and that kind of thing, but everybody wants the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory to thrive again. I mean, some of what Marian

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Speaker 1: Scrimsaw was saying yesterday on the show I thought was

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Speaker 1: quite you know, like it was shocking. She said to me, Katie,

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Speaker 1: I'm scared inside my home and she's worried that she

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Speaker 1: she said that she is worried that there are Aboriginal

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Speaker 1: teenagers targeting targeting non Indigenous people in Alice Springs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to me, that's like, that's horrible. But either way, and

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Speaker 1: then you know another point that she made which breaks

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Speaker 1: my heart is you know that she's concerned that you're

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Speaker 1: going to see a real division within the Northern Territory community.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's the worst and the last

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Speaker 1: thing that anybody wants. This place, you know, is the

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Speaker 1: wonderful place that it is because of our multiculturalism, because

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Speaker 1: of you know the fact that we have so many

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Speaker 1: different cultures living here. We've got so many different types

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Speaker 1: of people here in the Northern Territory. But we're broken

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Katie, what I need to add to that

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Speaker 4: is a board, Like I think what we are seeing

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Speaker 4: at the moment, these crime are not children trying to

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Speaker 4: get some food or from poverty. These are angered against people.

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Speaker 4: They are destroying properties, and we need to do something

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Speaker 4: about this. And I think we can't say about like

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Speaker 4: I think this is just just because of like the poverty,

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Speaker 4: just because of like all the things happen in this

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Speaker 4: place for years. And I think I can say about

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Speaker 4: like a common theme from because you mentioned about the

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Speaker 4: multicultural communities. So what the common theme the multicultural community

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Speaker 4: are saying is about, like we are not responsible for

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Speaker 4: any of these They were not part of this colonization

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Speaker 4: or anything. They are in this country. To make sure,

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Speaker 4: like I think they're part of this country and take

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Speaker 4: this forward and yes they are going to accept about

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Speaker 4: like the things and they will work with the current

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Speaker 4: government on whatever the initiative they're doing. But they can't

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Speaker 4: say about like it's all because of like what happened

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Speaker 4: in the past, because we've got like a lot of

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Speaker 4: new people came to this country, even myself. If I'm

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Speaker 4: going to victimize myself, I can like I'm a victim

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Speaker 4: of colonization because India was ruled by British. I bond there,

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Speaker 4: I bond and live there for twenty four years. You

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Speaker 4: can't come up with what our excuses. You can come

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Speaker 4: but I think what we are seeing right now it

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Speaker 4: is nothing to do with any of this. If a

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Speaker 4: children or if a child is kind of like out

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Speaker 4: of hungry, I'm sure like any person living in the

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Speaker 4: territory will offer food to them. I don't think anyone

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Speaker 4: is going to refuse that food or drink to a child.

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Speaker 4: But this is not poverty. This is kind of like

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Speaker 4: what things happen over the many years or decades, and

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Speaker 4: then this is what we are seeing at the moment.

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Speaker 4: We kind of like started all this properly long time ago.

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Speaker 4: These children are the teenagers who hasn't seen watch a discipline,

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Speaker 4: community or anything. There is no social notes, there is

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Speaker 4: nothing as I mentioned, like it's totally inhumane to attack

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Speaker 4: a two month old baby and the mother inside the

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Speaker 4: house when the mother is looking after the baby, the

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Speaker 4: infant and other children.

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Speaker 1: Selena Marian Scrimjaw said on the show yesterday, you know

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Speaker 1: the time for making excuses is over. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: the same, Katie.

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Speaker 2: We've said that we are very comfortable as the Labor

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Speaker 2: Opposition to work towards whatever constructive plans and actions are

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Speaker 2: going to support people of Central Australia, and we stand

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Speaker 2: by that very happy, no excuses. We're happy to move forward,

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Speaker 2: but we need to do it together in a constructive way.

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Speaker 2: We're just waiting on the government to lead that.

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Speaker 1: We are going to take a quick break. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to Mix one oh four nine's three sixty. It is

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Speaker 1: the week that was. You are listening to the week

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Speaker 1: that was and if you've just joined us in the

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Speaker 1: studio from the NT News Harry Brill. We've also got

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Speaker 1: Jins and Charles, Minister for People's Sport and Culture, and

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Speaker 1: on the line we've got the Opposition leader Selina Rubo.

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Speaker 1: Now I do want to talk I want to move

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Speaker 1: along a little bit because there has been a lot

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Speaker 1: happen throughout this week. I say that every time while

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Speaker 1: we come in for the week that was. But let's

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Speaker 1: have a look at this story around Equatorial Launch Australia.

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Speaker 1: We know that the space company that had been launching

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Speaker 1: rockets from the Northern Territory anounced it they'd be immediately

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Speaker 1: ceasing operation after a stouch with the Northern Land and Council. Now,

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Speaker 1: Equatorial Launch Australia says it's been working through approvals with

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Speaker 1: the NLC to expand the Arnham Space Center for almost

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Speaker 1: three years, but had been unable to finalize a lease agreement.

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Speaker 1: The company said the latest setback could have led to

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Speaker 1: a breach in its contractual obligations and puts major funding

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Speaker 1: at risk, leaving it with no option other than to

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Speaker 1: go elsewhere. Now ELA is planning to move their spaceport

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Speaker 1: now to Weeper in Queensland, meaning that the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: is going to miss out on what has been seen

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Speaker 1: is billions of dollars in direct economic stimulus. It is

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Speaker 1: a blow to the Northern Territory right.

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Speaker 2: Now, Katie. It's very disappointing to see this happen. We

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Speaker 2: know that the boosting a private sector here in the

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Speaker 2: territory and growing the economy, and sometimes obviously there's risks

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Speaker 2: that had taken. But I think the biggest disappointment around

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Speaker 2: this new industry now moving from the territory to Queensland,

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Speaker 2: of all places, means that we've losing out on territory jobs.

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Speaker 2: We're losing out on being able to grow our economy

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Speaker 2: in a new industry and a very exciting industry, Katie.

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Speaker 2: So it is super disappointing to see this happen.

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Speaker 3: Selena, do you think this is a lost cause? Can

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Speaker 3: we throw a hail Mary and bring it back?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm always a glass half full person, Harry,

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Speaker 2: so I'd always you know, I'd love to see if

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Speaker 2: there was a change in circumstances and that we see

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Speaker 2: ELA staying in all the territory. But I think unfortunately

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Speaker 2: they've made their business decision. If there was an eleventh

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Speaker 2: hour change, I think that would be great for the territory.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of work has gone into this

656
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Speaker 2: and I think it would make a huge difference because

657
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Speaker 2: talking to territory kids, we had NASA come and do

658
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Speaker 2: road shows here in the territory within the last few

659
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Speaker 2: years and talk about jobs in space, jobs in technology.

660
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Speaker 2: So I think it'll be a huge blow to the territory,

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Speaker 2: as Katie said, but you know, if there's an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to keep it, then I think that would be great.

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Speaker 4: I pointed as a CLP government by the ELS decision

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Speaker 4: to move out to Queensland, but we are communicating with

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Speaker 4: the stakeholders, the Gumach Cooperation and the Northern Council because

666
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Speaker 4: we got like a five percent stake in that as well,

667
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Speaker 4: and looking on a board like the legal options regarding

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Speaker 4: that as well, and to make sure that a thing

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Speaker 4: we got like economic options available for the people leaving

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Speaker 4: out there, because we don't want to see that a

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Speaker 4: thing East Danum is going backwards, because we want to

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Speaker 4: see aboard like I think that's going to move forward

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00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 4: and again like a thing that would look out for

674
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Speaker 4: the businesses aboard, like anything doing business in territory as well.

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Speaker 4: We don't want to see about like territories the most

676
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Speaker 4: difficult place to do business in Australia, because we want

677
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Speaker 4: to be at the forefront, especially with our strategic location,

678
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Speaker 4: and we want to see about like a thing more

679
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Speaker 4: of the defense industry coming on board, and I think

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Speaker 4: we want to see more of this expansion. And again,

681
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Speaker 4: like I think the territory, the acting Territory Coordinator will

682
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Speaker 4: be out Onteranum by mid December.

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Speaker 1: Do you reckon there's any chance can actually turn around?

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure based on the information that we currently,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there is a chance with this. But again,

686
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Speaker 4: like a thing still discussion is in police like we

687
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: can't see anything can happened from there, but we want

688
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: to really see a well, like a thing, how we

689
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: can expand the businesses in the territory or these kind

690
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Speaker 4: of like projects rather than them leaving territory. And I

691
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Speaker 4: think accusing like different processes and systems in place within

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Speaker 4: the Northern Territory. That's the reason why they're leaving, because

693
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Speaker 4: they can't fast track and then do the things.

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Speaker 1: In that way. Yeah, look, I mean I think we

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Speaker 1: all want to see the economy diversified. We want to

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Speaker 1: see some of these projects up and running. We want

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Speaker 1: to see things moving along again. So I hope that

698
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Speaker 1: we are able to see some change in this space.

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Speaker 1: I do just want to take everyone across to a

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Speaker 1: Pressureleaseet's literally just come through though. Unfortunately, another situation around crime,

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Speaker 1: this time the Northern Territory Police saying that they've arrested

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Speaker 1: to adult males in relation to an aggravated robbery that

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Speaker 1: occurred in Catherine overnight. At about ten thirty, police received

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Speaker 1: reports that two adult males had entered a residents in

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Speaker 1: Catherine South and allegedly assaulted two male victims with edged

706
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Speaker 1: weapons before stealing alcohol and fleeing the scene on foot.

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police and Saint John Ambulance attended that incident,

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Speaker 1: locating a fifty three year old victim with a stab

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Speaker 1: wound to his leg and another sixty four year old

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Speaker 1: male with stab wounds to his chest. A short time later,

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Speaker 1: a twenty four year old male was arrested nearby after

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Speaker 1: a short footchase. A thirty year old was arrested at

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Speaker 1: a residential addressing Catherine Now. Both those victims were transported

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Speaker 1: to Catherine Hospital for treatment and are both now in

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Speaker 1: a stable condition. The offenders are not believed to be

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Speaker 1: known to the victims. Investigations remain ongoing, both offenders remaining

717
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Speaker 1: in custody, with charges expected to be laid later today.

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Speaker 1: It's like once again, I don't know how many times

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Speaker 1: I can say something's horrifying, but you're literally talking of

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Speaker 1: act two blokes being stabbed now inside their home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, it's horrible. Obviously. I'm in Catherine, which is

722
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Speaker 2: my hometown, and I know that our Mayor Liz Clark

723
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Speaker 2: has written to the new government and urged the support

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Speaker 2: from the local Member for Catherine, who is now Minister

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Speaker 2: Joe Hersey, to try and get a plan and support

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Speaker 2: for Castine, similar to what our Springs residents have been

727
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Speaker 2: asking for the last couple of weeks of new government. Again,

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Speaker 2: I am what I want to be constructive. I want

729
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Speaker 2: to be able to support what is the plan for Catherine,

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Speaker 2: not just because I'm a resident here, Katie, but because

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Speaker 2: I support this region and it is the hub for

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Speaker 2: my electorate of Arnham, it's the hub for other electorates

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Speaker 2: in the surrounding area. And you know, I think Mayor

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Speaker 2: Liz Clark and her strength and wanting to see things

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Speaker 2: happen in a constructive and positive way for Catherine was

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Speaker 2: met with personal politics. And it can't be about personal politics, Katie.

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Speaker 2: It has to be about what are the constructive ways,

738
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Speaker 2: what are the resources to be able to work we

739
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: know we've got great organizations and community associates that are

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Speaker 2: doing amazing things for Catherine and the Big Rivers region.

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Speaker 2: How do we also support that when it comes to

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Speaker 2: crime prevention and again, happy to see what the plan is.

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Speaker 2: We haven't had a plan for Catherine from the New

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Speaker 2: zeal Pia government. I'm not happy to support that.

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Speaker 1: When do you know, do you know either of those

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Speaker 1: victims or have you heard much about that situation this morning?

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Speaker 2: No o, Katie, I've also heard that through the release

748
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Speaker 2: this morning come through. Yeah, and obviously thoughts with those victims.

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Speaker 2: I will say though the Catherine Hospital does an amazing job.

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Speaker 2: Again those first responders in times of crisis or times

751
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: of you know, the traumatic, Yeah, traumatic experiences. So we

752
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Speaker 2: thank the first responders for their good work in this situation.

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Speaker 4: Katie, I'm unable to specifically come underboud this particular situation,

754
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: but I think I'm hearing Lego thing there is no plan,

755
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 4: there is no plan. But I think what again says

756
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: that from the day one of the government we are

757
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Speaker 4: walking on the plans to make sure Legating the community

758
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Speaker 4: is safe. And I totally agree leg I think things

759
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 4: are happening, but I think at the same time you

760
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: can see about the news about like a thing, these

761
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: offenders are being taken by the police as well, it's

762
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: not like a thing. They're trying to let go. And

763
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: we are making sure the bay law is going to

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Speaker 4: be in place as well. And again, like I think

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00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: we are focusing on all this minority or some people

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Speaker 4: out in the community causing all this recons and trouble

767
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 4: as well, But there is like a great young people

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00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: out there and I think doing the right thing as well.

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Speaker 4: And I think I can say about like the Minister

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Speaker 4: for Youth as well, we announce a plan for the

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Speaker 4: school holiday programs for the school break last week and

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Speaker 4: I think there are like a lot of activities for

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Speaker 4: all the different regions for the young kids to engage.

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Speaker 4: That means, like I think there are young people who

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Speaker 4: wants to participate in the community.

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Speaker 1: That is an opportunity for There's plenty of good kids

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Speaker 1: out in the community. I get to see them all

778
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: the time at different sports and you know, at different events.

779
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 4: And yet just about the minority therein like a thing

780
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: causing all the headlines. But I think there is like

781
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: a good number of people out there doing the right thing.

782
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Speaker 4: And also be ensuring, like I think we are giving

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Speaker 4: opportunities for the people to be engaged in the community

784
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: and stay in activities unconnected with that and not to

785
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Speaker 4: join this like minority of people creating the community as well.

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Speaker 3: Selene, I just want to ask you a quick question

787
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Speaker 3: just with this crime, with crime being a major topic

788
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Speaker 3: right now, the Promise will be here in just a

789
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks, do you think you will have a

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Speaker 3: conversation with Promise to Anthony Albaneasy on the crime and

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Speaker 3: if so, will you be making any requests?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Harry, I will be talking with the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: I've ever spoken to my federal colleagues obviously who represent

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Speaker 2: the federal labor government here in the NT around what

795
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Speaker 2: are the things that we can obviously push here in

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Speaker 2: the territory. Obviously the last couple of weeks, and we've

797
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: talked about it many times with Katie on her show,

798
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: is about that DV needs based finding family, domestic and

799
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Speaker 2: sexual violence prevention. We can't get anywhere if we're not

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00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: resourced properly in the Northern Territory. We've had some great

801
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: wins when we talk about education in the territory being

802
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: fully funded housing in remote sense, we're looking at the

803
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: social affordable housing that the federal government brought in, which

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00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: has now gone through with the Federal the last sittings

805
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: of the Federal Canberra Parliament. So the two other areas

806
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: we need to keep pushing and it doesn't matter what

807
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: side of politics we're in, is health and DVS funding.

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00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: So they're the sort of conversations I'll be having because

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00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: when we can look at aliving, we know domestic violence

810
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: is one of the biggest contributors to crime, you know,

811
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: horrible stories here in the NT as well as those stats,

812
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: how do we put in the resources to make sure

813
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: we've got the right services, the right programs, the right initiatives.

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Speaker 2: The school holiday program that Jinsen talked about, we were

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Speaker 2: really proud to have, you know, eight years of really

816
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Speaker 2: strong programs spession in places like Catherine for the Big

817
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: Rivers region where those holiday programs, businesses who are putting

818
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: up their time and their efforts during that school holiday

819
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Speaker 2: period to make sure young people are engaged more of

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00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: those positive conversations and engagement pieces across the territory. But

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Speaker 2: also what are the things that we're not funded for?

822
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Speaker 2: What are we're not resourced for where are those gaps?

823
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Speaker 2: So they're that really heavy conversations.

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Speaker 3: Opposition just short of that though, I mean short of funding.

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Speaker 3: We spoke earlier about AFP ADF support. Is that that's

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Speaker 3: a conversation that could be hard with the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: They are common and I believe, yeah, I believe that's

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Speaker 2: already being had as well with those federal members, our

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Speaker 2: labor members. So again they'll be the conversations that I

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00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: can continue as a labor opposition. I believe the Chief

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Speaker 2: Minister is having those conversations. I haven't had a chat

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Speaker 2: with her since yesterday, I mean since she's been in

833
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: Alice Springs, so I believe that's the type of conversation

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Speaker 2: she's having. I can only do so much in opposition,

835
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Speaker 2: but I'll absolutely represent the territory to the best of

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Speaker 2: my ability with my team in opposition.

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Speaker 1: We are going to take a really quick break before

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Speaker 1: we get ready to wrap up for the morning. You

839
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Speaker 1: are indeed listening to Mix one O four point nine.

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Speaker 1: It is the week that was, well, that is just

841
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: about it for us for this morning, and that is

842
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: our final week that was for this year. Next week

843
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: we are are going to be focusing quite heavily on

844
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Speaker 1: Cyclone Tracy, the memorial and territory and stories in the

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Speaker 1: leading to the fiftieth anniversary. So a big Merry Christmas

846
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: to all of you. Harry Brill from the NT News,

847
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us this morning.

848
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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie Jins and.

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00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: Charles the Minister for People, Sport and Culture. Lovely to

850
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: have you in the studio for your first week.

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00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 4: That was Thanks Katy. And drive safe on territory roads

852
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: during the Christmas time and you see like a lot

853
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 4: of police presents on the road, so make sure, like

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00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: I think you are doing the right thing.

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00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: And Selena Rubo, thank you so much for your time

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00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: this morning. Opposition leader, thank you so much Katie.

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Speaker 2: And to your listeners, I hope everyone gets some time

858
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: with their family and their friends and their colleagues to

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00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: celebrate the end of the year in a safe way

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Speaker 2: and come back refreshed and renewed for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: But same like Jinson, please stay safe on our tertiary roads.

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00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: We need a lot of rain and Catherine recently, so

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00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: kick those headlights on in the rain please and stay

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00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: safe and look after each other this Christmas and New Year.

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Speaker 1: Good advice. Thank you all so very much for your time.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one oh four nine. That

867
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Speaker 1: was the week.

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Speaker 2: That was