1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: hottest influenza and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, a showdown 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: between content creators at an influencer event goes viral, Adele 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Petropolis's iconic clutback at her ex fiance, the new owner 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: of Ellie Watson's mansion is unveiled, and our influencer dump 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: the first k. Matt Zakowski is continuing to win us over. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: If he's not sharing his family's gorgeous gone retriever on Instagram, 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: he's sharing about his love for Christmas, which I think 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: is actually a big green flag. I couldn't help but 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: smile when I saw Matt's recent photo. So he shared 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: some photos from his family's annual visit to the Christmas 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: tree farm. They cut a tree down every year, and 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: he is wearing the coolest Christmas vest. In the photo, 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: it says, fuck, I love Christmas. I need one of these. Yeah. Well, 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: what most impressed me about Matt was the fact that 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: he has not just one Christmas jumper. He shared a 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: series of photos on his Instagram stories from different years 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: and he's donning different Christmas outfits. Yeah, that shows that 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: he truly does love Christmas. I mean his thirtieth was 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: also Christmas in July themed, which was a big clue. 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: It's interesting to look back at the photos because he 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: looks quite miserable in the twenty twenty four one compared 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: to this year's photo, and I do have to give 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: him credit. He's looking quite jacked. He's spoken a lot 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: on his podcast about going to the gym. Seems like 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: it's paying off. We're just talking about Christmas, Kate. I 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: need to issue a PSA, people, can you actually fluff 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: your Christmas tree? I keep seeing photos of people's trees 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: popping up on Instagram. I mean these are people I 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: know as well as influencers, and their trees are not 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: properly fluffed. They would look a million times better if 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: they just made the effort to do it. We've actually 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: had a few requests for us to rate influencers trees, 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: and it's funny because I already do that privately with 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: you guys. I did go to town a little bit 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: on Steph Claire Smith's tree. Maybe we'll save that full 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: analysis for another a dedicated segment. But I just don't 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: get it. I'm like, remember when Ashy Binns had that 40 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: terrible toilet brush tree that looks so cheap? I meing 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: you people have money, like, how have you not got 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: a Barsom Hill tree or a real tree? Is this 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: a new class thing where people with money actually have 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: very average looking trees? But the decorations are crap as well. 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: And what I don't get is why are there so 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: few of them on the tree? Like, I mean, my 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: partner pays me out he says that I have too 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: many on the tree, But I think when it comes 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: to Christmas is never enough. Do you know who's doing 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: it right is Michael Finch. He put up a video 51 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: of him decorating his Christmas tree. It looked amazing and also, 52 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: unsurprisingly Molly May. She has two Christmas trees in her house, 53 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: one in her living room which is absolutely beautiful. It's 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: covered in burgundy bows as well as ball balls, and 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: she's also got one in her bedroom which is gold themed. 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 57 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: But I mean I give more props to Michael Finch 58 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: because he clearly decorated his himself, whereas Molly May's just 59 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: got someone in to do it. I mean, no shade 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: at least hers looks good. I think the influencers that 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: have money should be doing that. If they can't decorate 62 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: a tree nicely themselves, bring someone into help. Which Arde 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Twinci made a really good point. She said that Australia 64 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: just doesn't celebrate forres Sstmas as well as other parts 65 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: of the world, and I tend to agree. I keep 66 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: seeing all of these Christmas flogs in the UK, and 67 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: they have the most beautiful Christmas decorations in all of 68 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: their shopping centers. I mean in Adelaide, we had a 69 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: couple of dead Christmas trees up in Rundel Mall and 70 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: that was apparently the decorations. We've already touched on it 71 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: in the show. But the Meyer and David Jones decorations 72 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: are very disappointing. They drag out, Yeah, they drag out 73 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: the same crappy trees every year. We need to do better. 74 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: Well. 75 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: The only positive thing is McDonald's has finally got on board. 76 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: So in the UK they used to do all of 77 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: these special Christmas meals, they're finally doing one in Australia, 78 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: the Grinch meal. I saw that and I was taken 79 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: about how expensive it was. But you get a grinch 80 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: snow globe with it. I want to taste test it. 81 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Maybe we should do that for TikTok. You guys. 82 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: So, I'm at an event and Cindy is here, right, 83 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: and she made she made these like Ruy. 84 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Sweetheror before I sat a showdown between two content creators 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: and an influencer event has captivated TikTok. The confrontation, which 86 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: has been compared to the Real Housewife's Brawl, was captured 87 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: by one of the women at the center of it. 88 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: Now I'm very excited to unpack this drama with you, Kate. 89 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: Can you give us up to speed with who the 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: main players are? Okay, So, firstly you've got El Saligaris, 91 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: who is a twenty nine year old Sydney Sider better 92 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: known by her handle Eastern Suburbs Mum. So she has 93 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: fifty six thousand followers on TikTok and fourteen thousand on Instagram. Ironically, 94 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: Elle does these parodies of rich Eastern Suburbs mums while 95 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: being one herself, so alongside her comedy content, she also 96 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: shares her very affluent lifestyle. She also has a podcast 97 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: where she shares behind the scenes stories from her life, 98 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: as well as interviews with other public figures. Then you've 99 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: got Cindy Killen, who is better known by her handle 100 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: regarding Cindy. She is a twenty nine year old Canadian 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: living in Sydney with sixty four thousand TikTok followers and 102 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: forty nine and a half thousand Instagram followers, and she 103 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: posts fashion content on TikTok and has her own brand 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: called Resort and Rich. In terms of how these women met, 105 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: they met at a word events several years ago through 106 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: a mutual friend and fellow influencer, Isabella Gray. They clicked 107 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: immediately and became friends, and as they are both content creators, 108 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: they also worked alongside each other making content. Elle actually 109 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: interviewed Cindy on her podcast last year and referred to 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: her as the biggest girl's girl. Now that all changed 111 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: this time last year when the women had a huge 112 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: bust up at a girl's night out. So apparently it 113 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: all started when Cindy suggested their next dinner catchup should 114 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: be at a restaurant. Elle was allegedly sexually assaulted at 115 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: so Elle had previously confided in her friends about this 116 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: incident involving the owner of a restaurant and the friends 117 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: had all vowed that they were going to boycott it. Now, 118 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Elle addressed the incident on her podcast, and while she 119 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: didn't name Cindy, she said she literally just starts saying, 120 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: I'm still going to go there. It was so outrageous. 121 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: Now this appeared to be the final straw to break 122 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: the friendship. Yeah, and following the incident, Elle unfollowed Cindy 123 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: from social media. In addition to a resting the story 124 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: on her podcast, she also shared a story time about 125 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: it on TikTok, again not referencing Cindy by name. However, 126 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: when people noticed the pair weren't following each other anymore 127 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: on social media, they put two and two together. Now, 128 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: this feud ended up being the talk of the town, 129 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: and it was very unique in the fact that it 130 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: captured the attention not only of those who were always online, 131 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: but also the Sydney socialite scene. Now, despite this feud 132 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: being the talk of the town, somehow both influencers ended 133 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: up getting invited to a beverage company's influencer event this week, 134 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: So a showdown was really inevitable and it did not disappoint. Now, 135 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: I personally think that El has earned herself next years 136 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: TikTok Creator of the Year Award by filming her point 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: of view of the argument. Now to give it justice, 138 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: I think we need to throw to a clip. 139 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: You guys, So I'm at an event and Cindy is here, right, 140 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: and she made she made these like sweethearror. 141 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: Before, Babe, send a fucking seasoned desist. 142 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: Now would be grateful as season desist for why don't 143 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: you tell everyone what FPM means? 144 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: You want to tell everyone what f PM means? Tell 145 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: everyone what FPM means. 146 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: They maybe tell everyone what FPM is and going back 147 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: to working the streets, said, go back to working. 148 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: The streets because you clearly fucking need to. 149 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: It is not funny to make fun of someone for 150 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: getting sexually assaulted and then pull this shit at an 151 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: influencer event. Are you kidding? And have your boyfriend, your 152 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: five seven boyfriend yell at me like for what for? 153 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: What are you kidding? 154 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: I do want to point out that L's allegations against 155 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: Cindy are unsubstantiated. Cindy has denied that she has worked 156 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: as a sex work. I think it's very important that 157 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: we make that clear in terms of the acronym FPM 158 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: for anyone that was desperate like me to know what 159 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: it means. Elle has confirmed it was a nickname Cindy 160 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: gave to a mutual friend, so it means fat pig 161 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: mel Isn't that disgusting? Wow? I've seen a lot of 162 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: people online saying that these women should go on The 163 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Sydney, and with these vile comments, they 164 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: could actually feel quite well. It was so reminiscent of 165 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: a scene from that show. I mean it was even 166 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: juicier because obviously it's not being overproduced and it's clear 167 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: that there is real tension between these women. The funniest 168 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: thing is Elle wasn't the only influencer to share vision 169 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: from the fight. So Victoria Camp shared hilarious footage of 170 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: her trying to pose for content while the dispute broke 171 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: out behind her, and she captured the video point of view. 172 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: You're taking videos at an influencer event and you get 173 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: a front row seat on the TikTok drama to give 174 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: this clip justice, Let's take a listen. 175 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: She yeah, Hey, yeah, that's fuck. 176 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: You want to you can't take it? 177 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: You want to fuck around? 178 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 179 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: This video has gone absolutely viral at the time of recording, 180 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: it's had one point five million views. It just reminded 181 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: me of when you get a friend to film you 182 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: or pretend to take a photo because you want to 183 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: capture someone in the background or something happening. But I 184 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: think it was actually genuine, and I give it to Victoria. 185 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: She still works the camera like the angles that she 186 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: was giving and the poses that she was doing first class. 187 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if it was me, I would have been 188 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: like stop, I need to watch what's going on because 189 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: it would be the best people watching. I would love 190 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: to know what was going on at the event in 191 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: terms of were the marketing managers scrambling like you know, 192 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: was anyone getting involved and breaking them apart because it 193 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: got really nasty. I just want to know, did this 194 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: beverage company purposely invite Cindy and l knowing about the 195 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: feud and thinking, Okay, this could get out of hand. 196 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: It will get us a lot of attention because these days, 197 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: in terms of the influencer world, we're at a point 198 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: where all publicity is good public. I mean we are 199 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: in the year of influencer best friends busting up and 200 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: sharing all the dirty details online. We've spoken a lot 201 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: about how that's how influencers remain relevant and in the zeitgey, 202 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: so maybe this beverage company was like, ooh, invite them. 203 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they thought that they would go this 204 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: nuts though, because l shared in the comment section of 205 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: a TikTok about the incident that the brand was in 206 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: damage control now and asking influencers to remove content from 207 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: the fight. I don't think they had any idea of 208 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: the feud between these girls. I think there must just 209 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: be a huge list of Sydney influencers then they went, yeah, 210 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: just invite them because it was just terrible research on 211 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: their behalf. Yeah, because no one would want this happening 212 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: at their event, Like, yes, maybe a back and forth, 213 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: but this was a full on disgusting fight. It really 214 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: did take the tone of the event down, particularly because 215 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: it looked like it was kind of trying to be 216 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: quite a fancy, upmarket event, or from having worked at 217 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: some of those events in the past, they can be 218 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: super awkward already. I mean adding that kind of fight 219 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: would that have made it better because people actually had 220 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: something to talk about to it. It would galvanized them together, like, 221 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: oh there's something we can actually talk about now. What 222 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I love is the drama didn't stop there, so after 223 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: holding onto receipts for almost a year, Elle unleashed following 224 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: the event. So it turns out she had the perfect 225 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: ammunition against her former friend. You see, upon realizing Lle 226 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: had unfollowed her late last year, Cindy took to her 227 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Instagram story and posted a rant on her close friends 228 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: about her former friend. Unbeknown to Cindy, though a mutual 229 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: influencer friend that the women have in common screen recorded 230 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: it and sent it to Elle. Elle has later confirmed 231 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: that friend was Isabella Gray, the woman who introduced them. Now, 232 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: the clip was actually obtained by The Daily Mail, who 233 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: ran a subscriber only article about it back in January. However, 234 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: this week, Elle posted the screen recording to her TikTok 235 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: and it was explosive. So in the vision, Cindy shared 236 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: her side of the story, claiming Elle had blan the 237 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: matter out of proportion, and she agreed that the initial 238 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: argument at the Girl's Night was sparked after she said 239 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: that she would still attend the restaurant in question fully 240 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: knowing her friend had been sexually assaulted there. She called 241 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: Elle a nut and said that she had lost the plot. 242 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: She also went on to allege that l was starting 243 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: online drama because she is so keen for content for 244 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: her podcast. Let's take a listen. 245 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: She's trying to create bit of drama online and obviously 246 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: something for a podcast because she has nothing relevant in 247 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: her life, anything going on. She's miserable in her marriage, 248 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: her kids are driving her not she doesn't have a nanny, 249 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: so she's taking it out on me and so that 250 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: she has some sort of internet drama with people and 251 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: basically commenting back on Reddit posts like you're just like 252 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 4: one of them, You're just like FPM, like you're just 253 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: a typical trawl. 254 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: Are the Real Housewives of Sydney producers listening to this 255 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: like this is already a storyline? Guys, I really hope. So, 256 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, give us something good because the 257 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: last series was a little bit disappointing. It really needed 258 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: Athena X. That's what was missing in this series. They 259 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: changed the cast. Now. In this rant, Cindy went on 260 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: to say that the restaurant rowt wasn't that dramatic and 261 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: then said this, you're not going to tell. 262 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 4: A grown ass woman where she can and cannot go, 263 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: Like I would never ask that of my friends. It's 264 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: like me telling her you can't go to tanuki every 265 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: Friday because Jason goes there. Like, these girls are fucking 266 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: delusional and they love to show drama, and it's a 267 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: big fucking awakening, and this is why the circle is 268 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: very small these days. 269 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: It's interesting that she referenced so I keep my circle small. 270 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Yet it was one of the people on her close 271 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: friends that sent this story onto L. How awkward. Yeah, 272 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this whole thing was really difficult to watch, 273 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: but the worst of it came towards the end when 274 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: Cindy downplayed L's sexual assault claim. Let's take a listen. 275 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: If you have a problem with something, call me. We're 276 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: not going to agree on everything else. Just because you 277 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: were sexual assaulted doesn't mean anything, you know, Like I 278 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 4: wasn't making front of the sexual assault even though it 279 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: wasn't really a sexual assault that I tried to kiss 280 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: you and you're and then you're lodging it six months later. 281 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: Aside from all of this sort of petty drama, I 282 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: do want to focus on Cindy's comments regarding L's sexual 283 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: assault allegations because it's very disturbing and I think a 284 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: part of the reason why a lot of women are 285 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: afraid to report sexual assault. Also, in New South Wales 286 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: there is no statute of limitations on reporting sexual assaults, 287 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: so they can be prosecuted years or even decades after 288 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: they occurred, so there's no issue with her reporting it 289 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: six months later. Like it's ridicularly, I mean, people should 290 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: believe women when they say something has happened. Oh definitely. 291 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: It's also rather awkward because a big part of Cindy's 292 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: brand online has been all about supporting women. I mean 293 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: we heard l say that she's a girl's girl. This 294 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: is not a girl's girl. No, I don't know, Like 295 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: if you're if you're saying you're a girl's girl, and 296 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: you're putting this type of content out online, like you 297 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: need some damage control. Like is it kind of like 298 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: those people that say, oh, be nice on the Instagram 299 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: profiles and they're like the biggest trolls, Like we have 300 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: to look out for people that say there's girls girls. 301 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: It's like mother of three, be kind. What they don't 302 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: get is why would you ever post this online, particularly 303 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: if you have a following, Like this is so damaging. 304 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean I get it that you posted it to 305 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: your close friends. But this sort of stuff always seems 306 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: to get leaked. Don't even get like, why would you 307 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: post it to your close friends? Like, why don't you 308 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: just ring up one of your friends and have a 309 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: private conversation where you can have a bit of a 310 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: rant about it. I want to know how many people 311 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: are on the close friends list as well. I mean, 312 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean with my close friends list, I generally just 313 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: add everyone I sort of know personally. It's like that 314 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: UK soccer wag that caught out her friend who was 315 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: selling stories about her to the media by changing her 316 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: close friends list to only be that particular person that 317 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: is so clever. Wouldn't that be hilarious to set someone 318 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: up like that? And you're like gotcha now. Cindy is 319 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: yet to comment further on the matter, but Elle has 320 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: continued to stir the pot and people are loving it. 321 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: So. 322 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: She shared a text message exchange between her and Cindy 323 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: from back in September twenty twenty four, as well as 324 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: a video of her enjoying the sunshine with the caption 325 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: me after my therapist and I decide the other person 326 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: is the problem. She's also been teasing that she will 327 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: be posting a story time unpacking the whole thing, and 328 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm waiting with baited breath. Let's get into our Friday 329 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: influencer dump and to kick things off, Sunrise reporter Katie 330 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Brown has been slammed online after weighing into the TikTok 331 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Awards racism row. So on Tuesday show, we discussed how 332 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: a number of black creators had spoken out about the 333 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: racism they experienced at the TikTok Awards, which included a 334 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: photographer barring black creators from entering the red carpet. Now, 335 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: this week, the Sunrise Roving reporter weighed in in an 336 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: attempt to provide the perspective of a journalist working the 337 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: red carpet. In the video shared to TikTok, Katie attempted 338 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: to defend the media by saying it wasn't up to 339 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: the journalists on the red carpet who they interviewed, but 340 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: actually a network decision. She went on to explain that 341 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: when journalists are sent to red carpet events like the 342 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: TikTok Awards, they are provided with a list of attendees 343 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: to interview by the bosses. Ah, so it's the network 344 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: that's racist, not the journalist. The war it Okay, thank you. 345 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: So it's the media as a whole. It's a systemic 346 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: problem that we're dealing with. I mean, why would you 347 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: ever defend this? I know, I mean unsurprisingly, this hot 348 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: take went down like a lead balloon, and the video 349 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: has since been deleted. Of course, people managed to screen 350 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: record it before that happened and have been stitching it up. Yeah, 351 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people were saying that the way Katie 352 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: spoke was really condescending. What did you think of it? 353 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it just baffles me that someone who works 354 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: in the media, that is media savvy would think it 355 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: would be a good idea to come out and defend 356 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: the racism that we all saw for ourselves on the 357 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: TikTok red carpet. I mean, Nayelle literally has recorded receipts 358 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: of the disgusting way that she was treated. How could 359 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: you defend that? Yeah, and I think the optics of 360 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: a white blonde woman telling black creators how they should 361 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: perceive their treatment on a red carpet isn't a great look. 362 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 363 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: Well, it just makes no sense because it's like, well, 364 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: clearly it was a racist decision, because saying oh, the 365 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: racist decision wasn't made by the reporters. It was made 366 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: by the network, Like, how is that any better? It's 367 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: actually worse. So it's just the networks who don't give 368 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: a fuck about black creators. US beauty influencer James Charles 369 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: has ruffled feathers after a trip to Buddings. James is 370 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: currently in Australia promoting his makeup brand Painted and decided 371 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: to film a TikTok taste test trying out the sausage 372 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: sizzle after being encouraged by friends and fans. This video 373 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: actually popped up in my FORU page and I thoroughly 374 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. My favorite bit would have to be when 375 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: James Charles tried to donate extra money to the charity 376 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: and the volunteer didn't want to accept it. Let's have 377 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: a listen. 378 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 5: For Harry, right, yeah, can you rather thro one hundred 379 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: for you? I'm not going I can't do that. What 380 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: ram it supporting? 381 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: So you four hundred? 382 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: Thank no, it's not cranky time, how course, Thank you 383 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Harry very much. 384 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 5: Thank you for hearing that. Now. 385 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: James ended up ordering six sausages and when it came 386 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: to choosing his toppings. This is where Ozzie and Us 387 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: relations started to fracture because he said he would like tomato, 388 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: sauce and mustard, because at the end of the day, 389 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: it really is just a hot dog. It's not a sausage. 390 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: It didn't go down well online, so people actually calling 391 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: for James to be deported over insulting the Butting sausage. 392 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a bit of fun, but it 393 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: has outraged Ossies and we are correct. The Bunning sausage 394 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: is not a hot dog because one a hot dog 395 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: is boiled while a sausage is cooked on the barbecue. Yeah, 396 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: there's a bit of flavor, a bit more flavor to 397 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: the sausage. I mean this is coming from a vegetarian, 398 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: but I have had a sausage sizzle. In the part, 399 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: he gave them a ten out of ten though, so 400 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: he didn't insult Ozzies too much, and it actually made 401 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: me crave a Bunning sausage because they sell some vegetarian 402 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: ones that some of the depots. I've always wondered because yeah, 403 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: you feel like you're really missing out when you're a 404 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: vegio and you can't get around the Bunny sausage sizzle. 405 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: Sophie Jane Miller has been left stunned after spotting Justin 406 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: and Hailey Bieber in a fish market in Japan. Sophie 407 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: and her husband Sam are currently honeing mooning in Japan, 408 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: and we're logging in the fish market when Justin and 409 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber casually walked past them. Let's have a to 410 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: their reaction. Oh my god, Look, can you see. 411 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: How many people have noticed. 412 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 4: I don't think. 413 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 2: I don't believe you even noticed that. 414 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: I was likely looking at it and I was like, 415 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: that's Habber. And then I looked and I was like, 416 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: that's Justin Bieber. Hats off to Sophie and Sam for 417 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: initially playing it cool. They did secretly film them later. 418 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: I mean I say secretly, but I think every celebrity 419 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: has enough awareness to know that everyone is pulling out 420 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: their phones and recording them. Well, so you could tell 421 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: that Sophie didn't want to do it, so her husband's like, look, 422 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: just pretend you're logging and walk past the restaurant, because 423 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 1: Hailey and Justin were lining up out the front, and 424 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: this restaurant had apparently already closed for the day, but 425 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: they were reopening it just so they could come inside. 426 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: As you would. Of course, they would Yeah. I can 427 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: see why you would want to film it though, because 428 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: it's almost like you wouldn't believe your own ohyes, particularly 429 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: when you're overseas, like it would be so like maybe 430 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: if you're in America and that's where they're from, but 431 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: it would be so strange to see these celebrities in 432 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: the setting that you were completely not expecting to see 433 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: them in. See. If I was them, I would have 434 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: gone right up to them. I would have acknowledged their 435 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: celebrity but tried to have a normal conversation with them, 436 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: and if they didn't engage her then probably would have 437 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: just resorted to filming them from afar. I would not 438 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: have the balls, particularly how I've seen Justin Bieber react, 439 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: oh that's a good pose, Well there was. I would 440 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: be like, no way. Well, I actually saw a video 441 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: of someone else who was at the fish Market and 442 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: they completely filmed, like they had their camera out. They 443 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: got such a good shot of Justin and Hailey going 444 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: through the market, so obviously other people were just blatantly filming. 445 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: Of course they were. Everyone was filming. Every person that 446 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: they walked past would have had their camera on. That's 447 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: where you need those what are those these meta glasses 448 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: which have video cameras in them. And to finish off 449 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: today's influencer dump, I have to share with you a 450 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: very candid confession from Molly May which she made in 451 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: her December first video. It was to the point where 452 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: I actually had to rewind to make sure this is 453 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: what she actually said. Let's have a listen. 454 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 5: You know when you're at school and you're sat on 455 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 5: a chair and when you used to wear tights, your 456 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 5: bomb would get ready itchy. I've got that same exact 457 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 5: sensation right now. My bum is so chy. I don't 458 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: know if it's because I'm cold and I've just sat 459 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 5: on heat to see or what. 460 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: But look, I'm all for influencers being raw and honest, 461 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: but I think this probably should have been cut out. 462 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: Like I can already imagine what the UK tabloids are 463 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: running with as a headline for this, well, something to 464 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: that effect. I loved her. I think this is why 465 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: people follow her. We've said it time and time again. 466 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: She shows this glamorous side of her life and then 467 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: next minute she's talking about her itchy bum. I love 468 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: that Vlogmas is back. I'm not delusional enough to think 469 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: that the likes of Molly May are going to do 470 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: it every day. I saw Sophie Jane Miller is actually 471 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: vlogging or trying to do vloglis. Yeah, hats off. That 472 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: is a lot of work. It is, especially because she's 473 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: on holiday, like she's on her honeymoon and having to 474 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: churn these out, I mean a lot of and also 475 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: because she edits her own videos. I know when Sath 476 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: from Barker did it last year, she had a friend 477 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: who was editing them. You're saying honeymoon, but it seems 478 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: to be a brand troop with jet Star. She actually 479 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: already had a honeymoon, well honeymoon slash brand troop whatever. Okay, 480 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: so you know she probably has to create content. She 481 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: probably gone to them. Look if you say me to Japan, 482 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: I'll do vlogmas from there and we'll do a daily vok. 483 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: The Devil works hard, but Lang works harder. 484 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: As if twenty twenty five couldn't get any worse, Grease 485 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: is facing a shortage of Feta diity oh oh fuck. 486 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, Adele Petropolis confirmed the real reason behind 487 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: her shop decision to cancel her wedding just three months 488 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: out from the big day. On the evening of what 489 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: would have been her wedding date, the popular TikTok Is 490 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: celebrated with a girl's night out and an iconic cake. 491 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: Now Adele made sure this cake was front and center 492 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: of the content she shared from the night, and with 493 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: good reason. So the cake had written across it in 494 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: icing cheaters don't get cake. So Adele posted a video 495 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: of her taking a bite from the cake, and she 496 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: captured the post, canceled the wedding, kept the party. Thank 497 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: God for my girls. I love this because she said 498 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: so much without actually having to say anything at all. Yeah, 499 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: it's not like she's had to go on TikTok and 500 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 1: give all the gory details. We know who the problem 501 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: was well back in September, when Adele announced the breakup, 502 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: she said she wouldn't be going into the details because 503 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: she didn't want to get bad karma. But she did 504 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: reveal that something happened that didn't align with her principal. 505 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: So a lot of people came to the conclusion it 506 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: must have been cheating, and there were quite a lot 507 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: of signs that pointed to it. So there was a 508 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: general consensus that it must have been cheating, and there 509 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: were quite a lot of signs that pointed to it. 510 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: One of the major signs was the fact that Adele 511 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: and her fiance Anthony were actually overseas in Europe traveling together, 512 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: and she literally fled Europe and announced the news when 513 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: she got home. There was also that boys trip for 514 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: a Bucks party to Las Vegas that Anthony went on 515 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: and at the time, Adele said that he was in 516 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: the doghouse because he messaged her the day before he 517 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: was coming home to tell her that he had bought 518 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: her a gift, and at the time, she said, the 519 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: bougie of the gift, the worse he had done. And 520 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: she actually unboxed the gift on her TikTok and it 521 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: was a designer hand, so she knew something bad had happened. 522 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a dumple ball offence to even say 523 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: that you want to have your Bucks in Las Vegas, Like, 524 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: does anything good come out of that? Well? I think 525 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: it was actually a friend's Bucks in Las Vegas. But 526 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, that's even worse. Got to go 527 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: for my moat. I mean. There was also that Blue 528 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: Eyed Kayla Jade video. So for those not familiar with Kayla, 529 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: she is a popular TikToker, who shares her life as 530 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: a sex worker, and she shared a video two days 531 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: before Adele made her announcement saying a guy called Anthony 532 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: message her saying he's currently in Europe for his bucks 533 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: and would show her around if she's interested. Yeah, the 534 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: optics aren't great for Anthony, are they. I wonder now 535 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: that she's shared this cake if she will go into 536 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: further details on TikTok, especially because the reaction from her 537 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: followers has been so positive and everyone's been saying we 538 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: want to know more. Yeah. I feel like this could 539 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: be the tip of the iceberg and I can't wait 540 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: to hear more. But that is so bad. That does 541 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: not look anything like me. Isabelle Maths is the new 542 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: owner of Ellie Watson's much loved Gold Coast Hintland mansion. 543 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: The estate was so popular it became the nation's most 544 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: weird property heading into its auction, according to real estate 545 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: dot com dot au. I can see why so. The 546 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: popular lifestyle influencer purchased the property back in twenty twenty 547 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: one and documented the extensive renovations, and Ellie's audience were 548 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: very quick to fall in love with the aesthetically pleasing home, 549 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: and they were shocked when she put it up for auction. 550 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, a home is fancy when it has a name. 551 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: So it's called the Valet Cassa. I love it. Does 552 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: your home have a name? Maybe it doesn't officially have 553 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: a name, but we've got an old bungalow so we 554 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: were actually tempted to have a little sign made with 555 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: a name. But we spoke about that three years ago. 556 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: Nothing's been done. I love the idea because our grandparents' 557 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: house was called swinder Be. It was the place that 558 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: they met and I was like, oh, rece, we should 559 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: do the same thing. But then I'm like, Titanium Security 560 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: arena doesn't have quite the same ring that's where we 561 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: met at work. Maybe in cursive it might look nice though, 562 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: might fit the vibe, I don't think so. Maybe Titanium 563 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: could pay naming rights. I don't know. I don't think 564 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: they'd want to. Now. Just back to Ellie's house and 565 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: despite the huge interest in the property, it actually got 566 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: passed in at auction, so post option negotiations saw Isabelle 567 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: and her partner Harry become the new owners. Now it's 568 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: unclear how much they actually paid for the property, but 569 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: it did get passed in with a top bit of 570 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 1: five point nine million dollars, so we can all use 571 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: our imaginations. Was pretty interesting because Isabelle and Ellie both 572 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: requested that the price remained confidential because they didn't want 573 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: to be flashy. I remember when we bought our house. 574 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that was an option, and I'd 575 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: send everyone in the link and then it just popped 576 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: up how much we paid it? Of this awkward thing? Well, 577 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you weren't paying six million dollars for a house, 578 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, not, sadly not. But it was pat at 579 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: a time when it was like the peak of house prices, 580 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: and it felt like a disgusting amount to pay for what. Well, 581 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: this is probably going to make you feel sick. Amy, 582 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: guess what the Watson's paid for the house back in 583 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Mind you, they did extensive renovations on it. 584 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: Look I'd hate to think I'm guessing like what like 585 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: a million dollars or something. They paid one point four 586 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: eight million. I wonder if Wheatley and Lucky war are 587 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: looking on, thinking, God, if we can just stop arguing 588 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: and finish his house renovations, we can make a lot 589 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: of money off it. What kind of makes sense that 590 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: it's an influencer that's purchased it. Maybe they're the only 591 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: people with that much cash and that desire to have 592 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: such an aesthetically pleasing home. I didn't realize she was 593 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: so rich. I mean, yeah, she's an influencer. But again, 594 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: I think the pay packets of influencers have kind of 595 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: gone down over the last couple of years. Considering how 596 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: saturated the market is. I'm guessing she gets paid a 597 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: lot as an international model. She also is the creative 598 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: partner at Rachel Dillon's active where company CSB. But again, 599 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: it's like, really, are you making that much money? Yeah, 600 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: because normally, if you're an influencer or model and you 601 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: have that much money, you have a business connected, like 602 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: for example, Steph Clare Smith and Laura Henshaw with Kick. 603 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: That's when they make the majority of their money. Yeah. 604 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, you know, Isabel Mathis doesn't 605 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: have her own business, so I didn't think she would 606 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: have that much of an income, but she clearly does 607 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: in terms of a property portfolio. She also owns a 608 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: beachfront apartment that she purchased for two point three million dollars, 609 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: which she has retained. It's going to be really weird 610 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: for Ellie Watson to see her old home appearing in 611 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: Isabelle Math's content. Now, I wonder if there's an element 612 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: of it being quite nice. Maybe you can sort of 613 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: check in. 614 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: You can never have enough hats, gloves and shoes. 615 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: Let's get into our Friday debrief, and a quick one's 616 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: a good one. I am going to recommend Christmas tree 617 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: hooks for your decorations. Random sounds silly, but what you 618 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: need to do is cut off all of those ugly 619 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: strings from your ball bulls and get these Christmas tree hooks. 620 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: You get them from Target Big w They're like two 621 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: dollars a packet and they make your Christmas tree look 622 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: so much better. We actually went to our parents' house 623 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: yesterday to put up their Christmas tree, and Sophie's like, 624 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: are you sure that we should be cutting these strings off? 625 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: She was so impressed that when she got home she's like, 626 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: maybe I should redo my whole three and her tree 627 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: looks incredible. Has that she double wraps the string around 628 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: the branch or something, but you can still see it. 629 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: That's the thing, like the great thing with these hooks 630 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: is they blend in into the greenery and you can 631 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: actually maneuver the ornament, you know, the way you want it. 632 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: It looks so good. Our best friend was saying that 633 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: she wants us to bring back the Christmas tree competition, 634 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: like who has the best one between us? I'm keen 635 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: for that. 636 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 637 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit nervous though, because if we do 638 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: a segment where we're rating influences trees, I think people 639 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: might go ham on our own trees. But I'm pretty 640 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: confident that. Yeah, I'm pretty confident. The thing is ours 641 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: are quite similar because we have the same balsam hill 642 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: tree and the same sort of colour theme. So like 643 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: ours are both read and gold. We're going to leave 644 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: it up to we have to leave it up to 645 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: the audience. Let us know if you want to bring 646 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: that back. I know I've just kind of ruined what 647 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: I am about to suggest, But maybe we don't say 648 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: whose tree is who? I love all this Christmas tree 649 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: advice we're giving fluff your tree, use ornament hooks. Well, 650 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: I've got a recommendation for everyone. And it's a book 651 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: by Jennifer Saunders, and I think it was released back 652 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, but I've just listened to it on 653 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Audible and it is so funny. I just have a 654 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: thing where I need to listen to the author's narrating, like, 655 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: for example, for Prince Harry's book, I listened to him. 656 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: There's something that just makes the book so much better. 657 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: And it's got me now watching old episodes of ab 658 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: fab and I have forgotten how hilarious I are. Okay, 659 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: you need to watch it. You've been quoting ab fab 660 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: like it's going out of fashion. It happens probably once 661 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: every two years. No, I haven't seen it. I probably 662 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: haven't watched it for like seven years properly, and I'm 663 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: finding myself laughing out loud legitimately. Well, that is where 664 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: we're going to leave things today. If you do enjoy 665 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: the podcast, we really appreciate it. If you could leave 666 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: us a review, and if you want to hear more 667 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: from us, we drop a subscriber only episode every Thursday. 668 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: All the details on how to sign up are in 669 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: our show notes. This podcast was recorded on the traditional 670 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We 671 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: pay respect to Elder's past and present