WEBVTT - My Boyfriend Is A Manchild! 👨👶

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex and Frooms catch

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<v Speaker 2>Up podcast. Welcome back to the partty. It is Flexi's

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<v Speaker 2>last Day've been twenty four years old. Yeah, your dog

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<v Speaker 2>feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to age. I like feeling like I can

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up a year being like that was interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>learned a few things, ready to learn some new stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>First four months of the year, it's been a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a doozy, you know. I feel like, not just me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm observing the girl is going through trials and tribulations,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's nice that we're getting fresh goss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Too.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of the stories circulating between twenty nineteen and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two were archival pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>That was me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about twenty seventeen dating stories. Get out, Get out,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the job you had in twenty eighteen. No, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>give me some fresh starter, and people are delivering. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very happy about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm there with you. Here's the potty Kata data Flex

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<v Speaker 2>and Frooms. You're listening to Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>What the frick?

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<v Speaker 2>Flexy? I have been getting into my audible reading literature, literature.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get into it, can I say I've got

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<v Speaker 2>an account on this book listening to device, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't buy more credits. It's physically impossible to buy more credits.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a boomer. I finally understand what it's

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<v Speaker 2>like when my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Happening to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, Why have I so mean

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<v Speaker 2>to my parents when they're just trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how to upload photos to eBay. Anyway, I was at

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<v Speaker 2>a dinner with my friend the other day, correct, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about boys stuff. Okay, both heterosexual presenting women.

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<v Speaker 1>Are and sexual presenting yes, heterosexual being yes, and heterosexual

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<v Speaker 1>passing yeah, let's go with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, for sure, for sure. And we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this guy texting this guy. We both had these situations

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<v Speaker 2>where we were texting a guy, right, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, happened to the rest of us?

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, what the hell? Half the dinner? Like, we're eating

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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful meal.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're not even chewing properly. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you mean? It's like the food's getting cold, You're getting

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<v Speaker 1>indigestion and.

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<v Speaker 2>Not drinking enough water. So I was showing her my

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<v Speaker 2>messages and she said, can I look at your phone?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, okay, grabs my phone out of my hand,

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<v Speaker 2>deletes the messages. What does she then do? Goes to

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<v Speaker 2>my contact deletes the guy's number, bold and I really said,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just looked at her. I shook my head

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<v Speaker 2>and sorry, I nod on my head and.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, yeah, I needed that.

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<v Speaker 2>I needed that. Thank you for not enabling me for once.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she was like to me, I listened to

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<v Speaker 2>this book, He's just not that into you. Initially my

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<v Speaker 2>back was up. I was like, I randomly watched put

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<v Speaker 2>that movie on Netflix the other day and it was

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<v Speaker 2>the most heinous crap that I'd seen in a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>like just so out of touch.

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<v Speaker 1>She like, obviously it was written. What's the premise of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Super like, high powered, really attractive producer woman can't find

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<v Speaker 2>a guy. And then this other producer comes into the

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<v Speaker 2>room and is like, he's just not that into you,

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<v Speaker 2>and like they start arguing and then they fall in love. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously I went and downloaded the book, immediately started listening

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<v Speaker 2>to it on the way home, desperate and I have

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<v Speaker 2>come away.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. I like that you went from concept to

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<v Speaker 1>execution quickly straight away. That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I have some extreme learnings to share with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear them.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how the book came to be. I personally

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<v Speaker 2>listened to Frum's price. Have been watching Sex and the

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<v Speaker 2>City for the past two months, from the start to finish.

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<v Speaker 2>I have ten more minutes left, right, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saving them? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>In I think season three, there's an episode where Miranda's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to work out or the girls are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>work out if this guy's into her, Like she's getting

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<v Speaker 2>all these mixed messages and she's on this date, right

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<v Speaker 2>and this guy's not doing what she expects him to do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not asking her out or something, and like he's

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<v Speaker 2>not asking her to go home, and she's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, you're just not that into me, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>could just come out and say it, and she like

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<v Speaker 2>goes on this ditribe and then he's like I just

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<v Speaker 2>really need a shit and runs away. Ah. Probably the

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<v Speaker 2>one scat human moment in Sex and the City that

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<v Speaker 2>really resonated with me. And then at some point later

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<v Speaker 2>in that episode, Miranda is sitting in front of these

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<v Speaker 2>chicks like she's on her lunch break and he chicks

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<v Speaker 2>are on the stairs in the city being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's really busy with work, but he texts me

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<v Speaker 2>but this that, and Miranda gets up and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just not that into you and walks away. So

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<v Speaker 2>turns out what that show came about because the chicks

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<v Speaker 2>who in the writing room of Sex and the City,

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<v Speaker 2>one of them was talking about this guy that she

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<v Speaker 2>was texting, and they were all like spitballing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>classic work behavior advisory board, literally unpaid labor. And this

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<v Speaker 2>guy works in walks in who's a producer, and they

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<v Speaker 2>asked for his opinion, you know, man opinion vibes, and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, he's just not that into you. Eruption option

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<v Speaker 2>in the writer's room, right, And then that's how that

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<v Speaker 2>episode started. And from that episode they created this book

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<v Speaker 2>He's just not that into you. Ah, And then the

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<v Speaker 2>movie came later, but the book came out in around

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four. Cool, So I download the book

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<v Speaker 2>knowing exactly what it is. The way that it works

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<v Speaker 2>is that they come up with this scenario. They're all

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<v Speaker 2>not based in real life where it's a woman being like, hey, Greg,

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<v Speaker 2>I met this guy and he did this, but he

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<v Speaker 2>did this, we do this? Tell me what I should do.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Greg who's the producer guy, and this chit

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<v Speaker 2>called Liz both give their take on the situation. So

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<v Speaker 2>Greg's were like, yes, Sweedy, let me give rejuce read

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<v Speaker 2>he's just not that into you. And then Liz will

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<v Speaker 2>follow it up. And then they've got like they've interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>twenty guys, They've surveyed twenty guys, and this voice will

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<v Speaker 2>be like, don't believe Greg, one hundred percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that we surveyed, so that if they were really

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<v Speaker 2>into a chick, they would do X y zed right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good read, very, very easy to read. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was three hours. I demolished it in two days, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>and what I've learned from it, and I'm open to

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<v Speaker 2>being wrong, of course, but I don't think I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>had on Haut gonna text the guy first ever again

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<v Speaker 2>in my whole life. Okay, good luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. I do believe in a lot of cases,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just not that into you works really well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think too many women who date men live in delusional

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<v Speaker 1>land for fun, and they're very impractical about the world

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<v Speaker 1>we live in. Now. If the best we can do

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<v Speaker 1>with datings look at it objectively, and I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of women struggle to do that. They bring a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of their fantasy into the dynamic, and they assume

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<v Speaker 1>that they're coming from an earnest place and the other

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<v Speaker 1>person's coming from a manipulative place. And what I often

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<v Speaker 1>find is a dynamic where two people who don't know

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<v Speaker 1>each other, one expects the most, one expects the very least.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear the same rhetoric when I talk to my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>If he liked me, he would do that. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like you yet because he doesn't know you, and

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<v Speaker 1>of all the amazing beautiful people that he gets to

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<v Speaker 1>interact with by virtue of social media or apps, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, like made him believe that he has a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't step up. Like You're probably not as

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<v Speaker 1>pretty as the other girl that he's looked at today,

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<v Speaker 1>or not as smart, or not as funny, or not

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<v Speaker 1>as anything. And I don't think that we can recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that as fact. It's very hard to you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>your heart, you're like, but I'm a catch. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>so is a twenty one year old in his DM

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<v Speaker 1>currently with no previous relationship baggage, no expectation, willing to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever whenever because he said, so, you're not a

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<v Speaker 1>catch in that context. And I also think that we

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<v Speaker 1>fall into the trap of like when we show up

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<v Speaker 1>is when we're ready. And if you think about it

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<v Speaker 1>on the flip side, like how many times have you

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<v Speaker 1>like met a guy and you've thought, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with him tomorrow, I want to like see

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<v Speaker 1>him four days in a row. That's a bum? Does

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<v Speaker 1>he not have a life and friends that are like

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<v Speaker 1>that take priority of this random person that he meant

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't know. Of course, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with someone who would prioritize me immediately. That's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not rooted in reality. It's not reasonable. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice to be able to meet someone and there's

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<v Speaker 1>immediate vibe straight away and you can build on something

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<v Speaker 1>straight away. But it's not the reality. Everyone's step up

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<v Speaker 1>their pussy. Yeah, people are bringing so much more. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just like you know, when you're in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like there's three or four girls who are like

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<v Speaker 1>gold standard hot and the rest of us are fugglies.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's okay because you kind of know what you see.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you grow up and you have a few experiences

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<v Speaker 1>that affirm the best and worst parts of you, that

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<v Speaker 1>affirm that, yes, you don't really match up to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of what's happening, but the other part makes you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you have access to everything. You sleep with

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<v Speaker 1>one ten out of ten you're like, this is me,

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<v Speaker 1>this is me, now, this is what I can get.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet at a time, absolutely but not generally so. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>as a standard, I don't think he's that into you,

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<v Speaker 1>But I also feel like, for what reason would he be?

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<v Speaker 1>Right in the same way that I would talk to

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys, they would be like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think she's that into you, and you for what reason

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<v Speaker 1>would I be like? I don't even know you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can if I look at you in like in

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<v Speaker 1>a very objectified way, like of course you're cute or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>But what's gonna make me like take a leave of

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<v Speaker 1>faith and humble mine? And I also think it's very

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<v Speaker 1>contradictory that we spent all this time being like the

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<v Speaker 1>dynamics between men and women can be unconventional and whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and you fall straight into this gender role of like

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<v Speaker 1>he should and I should. But then I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>what makes it really terrifying? Is that it's a performed

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<v Speaker 1>gender role. He should have texted me exactly. So wait

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<v Speaker 1>that's the case, then just wait but no, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, but then if I do this, and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>do this, and I'll do this and he'll do this.

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<v Speaker 1>The conflict in the head is conflicting the actions is

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<v Speaker 1>conflicting the energy. And people get vibes. People hunt. You

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<v Speaker 1>got a vibe. When you're texting someone, you get a vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>and the vibe tells a very clear story. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we take enough responsibility for the vibe that

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<v Speaker 1>we're projecting. We go to our friends and we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>confident confident, Yes, he should, he should. You get into

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<v Speaker 1>the chat. It's giving like you're cutting off the texts randomly,

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<v Speaker 1>You're sending weird emojis. The vibe isn't giving sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>You stop using emojis because they stop literally just no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on my dumb bitch juice. If I ever start

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<v Speaker 2>texting a guy and stop using a my ji, you

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<v Speaker 2>just know I've lost. I will say, if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>bit skeptical about the book, I would say the main

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<v Speaker 2>takeaway more is that don't waste your time. I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's so tempting. Don't waste your time. What's it called

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<v Speaker 2>deciphering message? Yes, yeah, that is the thing. The thing

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<v Speaker 2>isn't like wait for him or do this.

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<v Speaker 1>No, the thing is don't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is do your own thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing you don't. Yeah, And there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>power in action, like using your using what's actually happening,

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<v Speaker 1>like the physical manifestation. Let that determine what is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>not your fantasy of how things should have gone based

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<v Speaker 1>on your fantasy.

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<v Speaker 2>I also really want to talk on another time the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you said, because I've been mulling it over

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to figure out what you meant you date,

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<v Speaker 2>who you can not, what you want? Yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get that, but I want to know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe next week. Yeah, legit, this is flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>The nonsense really doesn't stop in this studio. Unfortunately for

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<v Speaker 2>my brain. It's a very difficult job, and yet I

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<v Speaker 2>do with ease, poise and grace. Flexi Bronti. One of

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners is sent in a little bit of a dilemma.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Ari, her boyfriend. Yet again, we have a straight

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<v Speaker 2>king queen coming to us.

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<v Speaker 1>The verosexual couple yeah, as per seems to be a theme. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>switch it up everyone. Yeah, I haven't had.

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<v Speaker 2>Many same sex relationship issues because we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we don't have the breadth to understand. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit hard, but we're happy to give unsolicited feedback

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<v Speaker 1>if you would like. Always, let's get into it. I

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<v Speaker 1>have an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>My boyfriend lives at home with his parents and he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know how to use the washing machine. And she

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<v Speaker 2>preverces he's twenty one years old. Okay, okay, there's some leeway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've told him I refuse to sleep at his

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<v Speaker 2>house while I'm on my period in case of leaks

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<v Speaker 2>until he knows how to wash his sheets. I have

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<v Speaker 2>once bled on his bed, to which I had to

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<v Speaker 2>take home and wash because I didn't want his mum

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<v Speaker 2>to see it, obviously and clean it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>He also made a remark that he would have to

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<v Speaker 2>burn his mattress toper because it had a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of blood, and I said I couldn't take it home

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<v Speaker 2>as it was too big.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh was just a serious conversation, not a gag.

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<v Speaker 2>This is real. I also helped him pay for the

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<v Speaker 2>new mattress topper. Oh. Because I was so embarrassed. Gemsys,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in deep. Am I in the wrong for not

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<v Speaker 2>just staying until he can learn how to wash his sheets, which,

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<v Speaker 2>chiming bear is a pretty basic job, she says.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, Oh, they do say it's the little things that

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<v Speaker 1>really are to blame for a relationship breakdown. Who would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought that? It's just the basic everyday task. That

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<v Speaker 1>being said, though, and we'll get into it more after

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<v Speaker 1>the break Washing your clothes is not simple, great like

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<v Speaker 1>washing machines are complex, washing powder, washing liquid complex, Understanding

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<v Speaker 1>what's setting complex, But everyone should know how to hand wash.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Is she in the wrong for not staying until he

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<v Speaker 2>can learn how to wash his sheets, which, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>is a pretty basic job. My initial thoughts. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>willing to dos myself here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't learn how to use in washing machine until

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<v Speaker 2>I moved out of home. Yeah, same age twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>That was nineteen for me. Yeah, and still though I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm very good at it.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is bad for you. You've got a nice

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<v Speaker 2>state of the art appliants right there that you could

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<v Speaker 2>be fudging up with your various powders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I got the state of the art washer.

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<v Speaker 1>Steady art dryer is very expensive exercise. I thought, let

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<v Speaker 1>me get the best of the best and not read

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<v Speaker 1>the manual. Because everything goes in the same cotton cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what it is it's going in. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I even put the whites with the colors because

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<v Speaker 1>I like inclusivity, and sometimes things will come out pink,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, you know that just is the price

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for this luxury. I will say, washing stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is a very difficult task and we should be really

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<v Speaker 1>thankful that we were raised people who could do it well.

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<v Speaker 1>Your issue isn't the washing machine, though, Like you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to really coach your partner around understanding that having a

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<v Speaker 1>period isn't as inherently gross as he thinks it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't warrant throwing out a mattress topper. A

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<v Speaker 1>period blood stained sheet is not that big of a deal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not sexy, it doesn't like look cute aesthetically, But realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is the core issue here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the washing stuff, because realistically, if he had a

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable relationship with you menstruating, he could be like

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<v Speaker 1>a mom. Sorry BRONTI stayed over and she'd let a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, do you mind putting little a little start

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<v Speaker 1>start oxy stain on the little and then it's call

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<v Speaker 1>to day. Now we're dipping into the savings to get

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<v Speaker 1>mattress toppers, and I know you can't recycle them easily.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't, you can't correct, you can't even recycle pillows.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, stage are silent, intervention, sis, free, lead, cost nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>cost nothing, and yeah, until you have to replace his

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<v Speaker 2>match stopper. But I say, maybe coax him to move

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<v Speaker 2>out and then he'll have to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>We should not force people into moving out, because there

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<v Speaker 1>are there are very few things worse than someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>technically moved out to they're an adult by circumstance who

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<v Speaker 1>do not know how to do the basic tasks, and

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<v Speaker 1>adulthood is not basic by any means. So at least

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<v Speaker 1>learn a few things and then leave.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it before and I say it again. Most

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<v Speaker 1>jobs are silly, stupid and dumb. Well, but that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop you from utilizing the silliness of it all to

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<v Speaker 1>progress upwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this. If you have a job title that.

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<v Speaker 3>Most people don't understand, like studio proprietor what you can

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<v Speaker 3>do on your resume in parentheses next to it is

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<v Speaker 3>put a more commonly known job title, so when somebody

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<v Speaker 3>sees it immediately they know what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Absurd. But it reminds me of the fact that when

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<v Speaker 1>I developed more than like two or three job titles,

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<v Speaker 1>it started getting dumb, because then I started thinking, what

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<v Speaker 1>what can even be a job title? How many times

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do something to say it's a job?

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<v Speaker 1>And I noticed that I was having a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>conversations on the Internet, and I thought to myself, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a job in some capacity. I do get a

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<v Speaker 1>paid to share what I think. But what would you

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<v Speaker 1>call that job title? Know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Professional opinion. Hover to my bio, to my website, I

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<v Speaker 1>get introduced as such, and I thought to myself, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no other title for what I'm doing that you could

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<v Speaker 1>say like social commentator, boring, lame, terrifying, professional opinion have amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>See I don't have a problem with cultural commentator because

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<v Speaker 2>I think what we do ought to be championed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I think it's it's almost so broad a

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<v Speaker 1>cultural commentator. Sounds like it's nuanced and it's taking like

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<v Speaker 1>a wide range of opinions. No, just mine. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a professional sharing my own opinion. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be like sharing the others. I don't really care.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's a really good point. I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me anyone who is an account manager in bTB sales, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>works as startup, works in tech, works for a tech company,

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<v Speaker 2>works for a company.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say product and project managers as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm freaking out, guys, what do you do? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you do? Because I'm out here dating and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>need to know what bracket we're coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to dating a lot for the girly, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it? Brick?

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<v Speaker 2>It's on my head? What's up with you? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>anything wrong with that? It's what people are here, don't

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you're the one that you don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about your dating.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I don't want to speak about it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not talking about my own experience. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about just wait, what on hinge? Someone told me on

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<v Speaker 2>a hinge that there's one too many specific reference. There's

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<v Speaker 2>one too many account managers. I need to know what

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<v Speaker 2>you do. Sometimes I can't glass doll certain you know jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to ask you because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to make sense. So that's why I say. I

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<v Speaker 2>do like the idea of giving another giving another name,

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<v Speaker 2>just the I think the appeal of the said job

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<v Speaker 2>might go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sometimes things sometimes we should advocate for smoke and mirrors.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the fantasy of a job tie that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick one, choose one, be yourself.

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