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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Christian No Common Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: So many amazing stories coming out of the Olympics this week.

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Speaker 2: One of our favorite ones happened yesterday with Jess Fox

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Speaker 2: and then her dad Richard Fox, a legend himself, commentating

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Speaker 2: as well. Richard is on the line right now.

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Speaker 1: Good morning Richard, Good morning Christian.

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Speaker 3: Good morning from Penrith.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Penrith, and from us in Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Richard, I got to say, you moved us all to

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Speaker 2: tears yesterday, you and your amazing daughter winning gold and

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Speaker 2: what a story.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel this morning?

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Speaker 3: Oh good? I mean I didn't sleep so much, but

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Speaker 3: I woke up and I'm messaging back and forth across

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Speaker 3: the world and yeah, amazing, feel good. And we're out

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Speaker 3: on the riverbank of the Nepean here and one degree

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Speaker 3: so a bit chilly, No amazing. Spoken to Jess in Tokyo,

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Speaker 3: spoken to Miriam and yeah they're buzzing and it's been great,

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Speaker 3: so much support, so much love, And couldn't be prouder.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet the thing that I may is right.

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Speaker 2: As a dad myself who just loses it whenever his

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Speaker 2: kids are in like a school play, how do you

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Speaker 2: remain so calm.

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Speaker 3: Richard, Well, I lost it quietly at the end. I look,

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Speaker 3: I admit that. No, I yeah, obviously it's an emotional thing,

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Speaker 3: and doing the commentary is actually a good way for

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Speaker 3: me to process all of that, because you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: from the sport and I was sort of in almost

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Speaker 3: in the boat and living the technique and the feeling

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Speaker 3: and the performance. So but once it's over, or you know,

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Speaker 3: even before it happens, Yeah, there's a lot of tension

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Speaker 3: and emotion and so many feelings that are attached to it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess I knew when she was coming

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Speaker 3: down towards the last section that she just had to

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Speaker 3: finish it off. Well. She had a bit of an advantage,

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Speaker 3: so it was just so good to see, so good

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Speaker 3: to feel, and she was in a dark place after

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Speaker 3: the race on the Tuesday where she you know, she

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Speaker 3: struggled a little bit on the course, but she she

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Speaker 3: was ahead and it was there for the taking, and

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Speaker 3: then she made that mistake at the end of the course,

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Speaker 3: she hit the gate and that that you know, scarred

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Speaker 3: her heavily and she had to come back from that.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was a great competition because the

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Speaker 3: British athlete Mallory Franklin. She put down this huge score

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Speaker 3: and when you see that, when you know the sport

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Speaker 3: and you just think that's the bar, the bar has

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Speaker 3: So that was that added anovel, another layer of tension.

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Speaker 2: And tell me this, then, what advice do you give

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Speaker 2: her then? As a dad and also someone who competed

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Speaker 2: a very high level, you know, ten time world champion yourself,

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Speaker 2: how do you help your daughter from the mistake and

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Speaker 2: the bronze? So then learn from that, move on and

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Speaker 2: not carry it forward to when she's competing yesterday.

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Speaker 1: What do you say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no playbook in life for that because you

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Speaker 3: just don't know. And I actually didn't sleep that well

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Speaker 3: the night before the last final, and I got thinking,

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Speaker 3: what do I say? I'll wait till the morning, and

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Speaker 3: I talked about Yeah, I just gave us some keywords

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Speaker 3: I said at the end, which I think, is, you know,

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Speaker 3: for every parent, when you've got your kids in sport

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Speaker 3: a little bit, you know, love love beyond the finish,

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Speaker 3: So that whatever happens, you've got that. And then we

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Speaker 3: She was sixteen, and it was the toughest course. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's a big drop and she got hammered and it

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Speaker 3: was one of those defining moments where you either get

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Speaker 3: it's a very delicate moment to say, what do you

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Speaker 3: and she had to dig really deep. You know, she

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Speaker 3: was in that defining moment of you know, will I

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Speaker 3: she did. So, Yeah, it was It was very special,

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Speaker 3: but it's challenging. But I think being there and having

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Speaker 2: Was it hard for you being not out there? Was

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Speaker 2: it really hard? Commentating? And I wish I was there

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Speaker 2: to give her a hug?

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Speaker 1: Was that hard?

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Speaker 2: Richard?

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Speaker 3: Yes, but we knew it was going to be like that.

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Speaker 3: And so in fact, the way following the games, and

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Speaker 3: being very very different, very revealing through the eye of

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Speaker 3: the camera and you can see so much more. You

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Speaker 3: can see the expression on the start line, and when

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Speaker 3: you know the person, you can read a lot into that,

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Speaker 3: into the emotion then. And how so I was more

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Speaker 3: into the competition than I've ever been before. You miss

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Speaker 3: a lot of that when you're you're there live. Of course,

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Speaker 3: it's great to be there. But you know, with you know,

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Speaker 3: all the technology today, we're in constant contact and you know,

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Speaker 3: And I've enjoyed being part of the public, if you like.

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Speaker 3: The plan was to be in the stands actually, and

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The winner is Jess's and Jess as loan, but she

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Speaker 2: is a real credit to you, mirroring your wife as well.

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Speaker 2: And the great thing about her is yesterday is the

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Speaker 2: she's a realness. She will actually inspire so many young

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Speaker 3: Oh? Look, she she does. And I think she you know,

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Speaker 3: was impacted by others. She when she grew up, I

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Speaker 3: sort of said that for breakfast every day. But I

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Speaker 2: We before breakfast, you get in that canoe, yeah before okay,

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Speaker 2: then breakfast, okay, stop crying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I remember, you know, we went to Bay

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Speaker 3: and dad too. I mean with Miriam, they have they

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Speaker 3: have such a lot of violent and great stories to tell.

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Speaker 2: One final question. When I was a kid growing up

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Speaker 2: in England, Rich and I remember you on a TV show.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this. It was a

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Speaker 2: strange show. The BBC used it for school children while

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Speaker 2: show based around canoeing. Do you remember paddles up?

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Speaker 3: it because the girls when they were growing up, they

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm going to speak to Channel

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Speaker 2: seven on your behalf. Paddles up needs to come back. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you and Jess and Miriam are the hosts. Pulls up

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Speaker 2: Channel seven. Let's bring it back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be up for it, all right.

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Speaker 2: We'll let you go. You've given Australia so much inspiration.

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Speaker 2: Joy Jess is amazing. She's one of the highlights. She's

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Speaker 2: you know, Thorpe and Aimes, but also going to be

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Speaker 2: your daughter, Jess. So you should be really proud. She's

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Speaker 2: given us so much. I loved getting to know her

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Speaker 2: and you guys in your story as well. So thanks Richard,

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Speaker 2: and thanks Jess as well, and your wife Miriam as much.

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Speaker 2: It has been lovely chatting to you today.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Christian, we've just lost him, so I will say

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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 1: Who are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm the offer I'm feeling with.

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Speaker 1: I'm Christian, by the way you live on God. I know, Christian,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. You know that he's all right.

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Speaker 2: Isn't following that river? He's what the side of it

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Speaker 2: was excitements aren't coming back. It's calling his agent. He's

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Speaker 2: cutting me out the deal. Well, listen, you have a

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Speaker 2: lovely weekend.

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Speaker 1: Nice to chat anyway.

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Speaker 3: That's to check to you too.

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Speaker 2: Things guys, when we say stuff like we're on hold

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Speaker 2: with Channel seven, this is what happens in our world.

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Speaker 1: Richard didn't say her, Why Richard was it?

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Speaker 3: Paddles up Carlin a brighter Now you're listening to the

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Speaker 3: Christian Know Carls Show podcast