1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Dumb mission with Jonesy and Amanda, Well, what are the chances? 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Just as we're heading into school holidays, there's been a 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: massive turnaround with positive COVID cases forcing various restrictions around 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: the nation. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: It's a scary time again. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: We welcome our doctor for the Australian Digital Health Agency, 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Andrew Rochford. 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: Good morning scorn a Man, Morning Jonesy. 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 4: Hello doctor Andrew. First question, I'd like to ask, off 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 4: the get go, how do I know I've got a 11 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 4: blood clot? 12 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Be prepared when you're answering this, Jones is a hypochondria. 13 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 4: I'm just saying that you all the stories are blood 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 4: club blood clot. How do I actually know I've got one? 15 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely, He's a very very reasonable and a fair question. 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there's two different types of blood clots. 17 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: I'm assuming we're talking about the one associated with the vaccine. 18 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: And in these circumstances, people are people that have had 19 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 3: the blood clot. They had symptoms like severe or persistent headache, 20 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: they might have sort of nagging, ongoing gut pain, guest pain, 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: shortness of breath. Sometimes there isn't it unusual bruising a 22 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: whole series of different symptoms and now the case has 23 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: it's been quite vague symptoms, so it is difficult to know, 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: but it's something that is if one of those symptoms 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: has occurred, you know, within a short period of time 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: after having the vaccine, you know something you should be 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: talking to your doctor about it. But you know that's 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: that's my standard advice on most things that are concerning 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 3: you and that are persistent. 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: And I like how you take my calls at one 31 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 4: in the morning. 32 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: I've got this, well, Brendan, it's a hangover. 33 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: I'm here. I'm here for you. 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: With these the spike again in cases, is this because 35 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: we're heading into the colder months? Does that seem an 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: inevitability somehow? 37 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: Weoll potentially. I think the logic there is based around 38 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 3: the fact that durity the colder months, we do see 39 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: a rising in the transmission of other types of respiratory viruses, 40 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: and the coronavirus is at the spiratory virus. The reason 41 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: for that is a few different things. We do know. 42 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: These viruses tend to laugh a little bit longer when 43 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: it's colder weather. They don't like that warm uv light 44 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: and direct sunlight, so when there's left they tend to 45 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: survive a bit longer. On surfaces, we spend more time 46 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: closer together, So what that means is that we're more 47 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: likely to spread them around and ultimately also during the 48 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: really cold weather, our immune system bits and pieces of 49 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: our immune system, like the small fine hairs in your 50 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: nose and throat, to help you move out bits and 51 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: pieces they tend to work as well. So that's the 52 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: reason why we do see it with respiracy viruses over winter. 53 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: Whether that's actually going to occur. With the coronavirus, there 54 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: was some evens the cold cold combs doesn't actually change 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: it because when you look at places like India you 56 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: know which is warm time, you know that it didn't 57 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: slow down the movement through through India as well as 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: other parts of the world that are very warm. 59 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: I wish I had small fine hairs in my nose. 60 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: You've got a big, longer lifet bush in there. You 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: should see it. 62 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Piano white has. 63 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: Has its benefits. 64 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: Things are negative, so maybe you shouldn't pull them out 65 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: in front. 66 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: Of the friends, and that's a good thing. So have 67 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: you got a big bush in your nose, It's going 68 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 4: to stop more stuff getting in there. 69 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: There's very fine I'm talking more about it in the 70 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: back of your nose and your throw. Yet there's very 71 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: fine hands there and they help move some of that 72 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: muck up towards that's why you end up with obviously 73 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: the gunk in your nose or the back of your throat. 74 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 4: Also with Scott Morrison, Prime Minister in quarantine, so he 75 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: would be fully vaccinated. Now, so what's the point of 76 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: vaccines if you've still got a quarantine. 77 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: Well, so the challenge with the vaccine is the people 78 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: who are vaccinated, and the whole point of vaccine is to 79 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: reduce death, ray hospitalization, people getting very sick. Really good 80 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: evidence to show the vaccines do that. However, it doesn't 81 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: stop you. It doesn't mean you cannot patch the virus, 82 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: and it doesn't mean you cannot spread or shed the virus. 83 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: So when you're in a population of people, it still 84 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: has a large percentage unvaccinated, and you'll vaccinate, you might 85 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: not get sick, but you've still got the ability to 86 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: shed that virus unfortunately, and spread to other people. So 87 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: the key here is that so we can all get 88 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: on with what we're doing, we all need to get 89 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: to a point where we've got that hurt of any 90 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: the majority of us have vaccinated, and then it won't. 91 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: It would be a very different story. 92 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: There we go get vaccinated. There's the message, doctor Andrew, 93 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: thank you for joining us again. 94 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 4: For more information, visit digitalhealth dot gov dot are you 95 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 4: to follow your vaccine journey. I like it because it's 96 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: like telemetry, and you know I love telemetry. So it's 97 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 4: got all my shots, all my stuff there. 98 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: When you're next journey, your next shot, all that stuff. 99 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: That's right. So my health record just getting onto it, 100 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: and I can tell you right now we are going 101 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: to need it. If we think we're just going to 102 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 3: get this vaccine once and it's not going to happen again, 103 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: it's going to be one of those going to have 104 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: to take track off. So in my health record, you 105 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: jump onto my health record dot gov dot AU, you 106 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: link up, you might guve account, and then you know, 107 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: you can start just accumulating all that information. Make life 108 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: a lot easier because it will come a time where 109 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: we need to start proving that we've had these vaccines, 110 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: and that's that's where all that information is going to exist. 111 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and your handwriting is terrible, so it's a good thing. 112 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: Cannot be trusted. It's awful. Yeah, jump onto digital. That's 113 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: why I'm in digital. 114 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: That was what your medical examples? How bad your handwriting? 115 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: Yep, you're a doctor, straight in there. 116 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: Thank you, Andrew Pleasure, Thank you guys, Jonesy and Amanda's