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Speaker 1: The Women Woody podcast that bite sized.

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Speaker 2: Can you get angry at someone who doesn't wave thanks

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Speaker 2: when you're letting them in? And the reason I'm bringing

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Speaker 2: up is because it's come up in the studio the

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Speaker 2: other day. What are you and now? Button Bush and

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Speaker 2: George absolutely adamant.

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Speaker 3: We were popping off, weren't we, George?

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Speaker 2: We were popping off. He's my techniques. Awful guys, He's

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Speaker 2: a button pusher. So why do you get so annoyed?

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Speaker 3: I think it's just because if you, if you take

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Speaker 3: the time to go look, I'll even flash my lights out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I've pulled to the side here.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you'll even flash your lights just to let him

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Speaker 2: know the full treatment.

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Speaker 3: So well, I've done double onto the effort, double point.

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Speaker 3: I've flicked my lights to the side. And I might

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Speaker 3: be in a rush to get somewhere a pedicure. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why that came to my mind, but I

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Speaker 3: might be laid to an appointment. I let them through.

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Speaker 3: They know that they go through. If it's the simplest

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Speaker 3: thing to just go like cheers mate, Yeah, I really

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Speaker 3: appreciate it, and then I go. I enjoyed that oxytocin

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Speaker 3: because I've received some validation for doing a nice thing,

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Speaker 3: and then I move on for them not to do that.

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Speaker 2: It's just like I've just done you a favor, like

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Speaker 2: get around me. So if we go back a step,

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Speaker 2: as I said before, would you not have done the

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Speaker 2: favor if you knew that you weren't going to get

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Speaker 2: the thanks?

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Speaker 3: No, I would. I probably wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't let

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Speaker 3: him if I if I could look into the future

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Speaker 3: and know they wouldn't appreciate the favor, Yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: would not let him in will Wow, I would almost accelerate,

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Speaker 3: not into a dangerous level. No, but I would be,

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Speaker 3: you know, quite stubbornly take up the middle of the road.

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Speaker 2: Are you the same, George, Yes, I am. It's just manners,

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Speaker 2: just general manners, just chivalry, chivalry, it's chivalry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, we're about to.

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Speaker 3: Fall in a trap, aren't we feel we're about to

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Speaker 3: fall in a trap?

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Speaker 2: No, it's just interesting because I get annoyed as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: one hundred in annoyed as well. But the moment. But

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Speaker 2: the more I've been thinking about it, the more I

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Speaker 2: think that it's like a it's just a Really I

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Speaker 2: think that the demand or the need for reciprocity or

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Speaker 2: getting something back and you're doing good something good for

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Speaker 2: someone is can be a lot of what's wrong with

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Speaker 2: the world go on. Like I think that you know,

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Speaker 2: like when people you know, and sometimes when I used

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Speaker 2: to do when I used to do charity work, right,

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Speaker 2: So I'd go and work for charity and meet some

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Speaker 2: people there and you'd be like, oh, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, you talk about why you're doing it really

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Speaker 2: And one of the things that always irked me was

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Speaker 2: people that were like, oh, I just love it because

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Speaker 2: I know that that charity makes me feel good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because they're doing the charity work, of course, And I

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Speaker 2: know that's a side benefit of doing the charity work,

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Speaker 2: but that can't be the reason that you do the

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Speaker 2: charity work.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's the same as when you give a Christmas present

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Speaker 2: you're not giving them the present so that you get

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, that's a bit off if you

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Speaker 2: And I think it's the same thing with doing the

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Speaker 2: I think it's weird if you're doing it and just

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Speaker 2: because you're expecting the wave back.

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Speaker 3: And I think, and I think, I don't go out

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Speaker 3: I don't get kicks off waves will if you think

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Speaker 3: you do. But you do that, I'm not some wave

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Speaker 2: But but that's part of it, though, because that's why

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Speaker 2: Maybe it is because you get so annoyed You're like,

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Speaker 2: I've done this thing for you give me something back.

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Speaker 2: I just think that's strange. I can't wrap my head

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Speaker 2: somebody in the traffic. It's a good thing to do.

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Speaker 2: But that nice thing, I think gets diluted if you're

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Speaker 2: only doing it because you expect them to wave at you,

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Speaker 2: because people get pissed off when they don't wave if

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Speaker 2: you do. Sometimes like the other day, Okay, so the

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Speaker 2: other day I was driving down the street. I had

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Speaker 2: there was a car that had stopped for me. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. Sure drove past the guy heard

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Speaker 3: It was me, and I didn't realize Max was in

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Speaker 2: O six ' five. Can you get angry at someone

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Speaker 2: who doesn't wave thanks when you let him in? I

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Speaker 2: want even some other people. I don't know. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 2: just man as it could be everything that's wrong with

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Speaker 2: the world. Can you get angry at someone for not

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Speaker 2: waving you when waving at you when you let them in?

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Speaker 2: Thirty one oh six y five. I think it's everything

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Speaker 2: that's wrong with the world, the fact that we all

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Speaker 2: expect something in return for the good that we do

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Speaker 2: for another person.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to see the death of thank you?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, I don't. But again, it.

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Speaker 3: Isn't saying thank you that reckons. It's that recognition that

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Speaker 3: you've done something nice. You're saying if it's everything wrong

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Speaker 3: with the world, should we just not say thank you?

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Speaker 2: Well? I think that thank you is So if it's

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Speaker 2: saying it to the person because they've done something really

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Speaker 2: nice for you. But I think the issue there again

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Speaker 2: is are you doing the thing for the person and

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Speaker 2: because you expect to thank you? Would you still be

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Speaker 2: angry at them even if they didn't give the thank

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Speaker 2: you back to you? Would you still sorry? Would you

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Speaker 2: still do the deed if you knew that you weren't

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Speaker 2: going to get a thank you back? So really, I

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Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's an easy

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Speaker 2: remember when I was on a I remember when I

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Speaker 2: was on a meditation retreat and they were trying to

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Speaker 2: teach this concept, this idea of unrequited love, giving and

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Speaker 2: giving and giving and giving, And I know I've blown

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Speaker 2: this up into something far too big. I'm just talking

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Speaker 2: about people waving it, others so thankful, letting them in

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Speaker 2: the traffic. But the example that they use to or

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Speaker 2: the like the little parable or a little proverb they

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Speaker 2: used was the sun never says to the earth, you

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Speaker 2: blow us up later though, no, it might blow up itself,

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Speaker 2: it won't us up. But the sun never says to

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Speaker 2: up every day. And then it goes under, say, look

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Speaker 2: what happens to a love like that? And you know

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Speaker 2: we've got life. So that's the It's a nice message,

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Speaker 2: I know. But Katie, what do you reckon? I've caught you.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I've got time for Buddhists, for Buddhist proverbs.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 4: I'm ropeable literally as you were saying, it happened one

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Speaker 4: of those real obvious ones where like everyone knows the

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Speaker 4: left lanes ending, why you're still in it? But I thought,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I'll keep the vibes positive. I don't

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Speaker 4: need their toxic energy. I'll let them in. And that

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Speaker 4: shiny BMW driver went right in and nothing, not even

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Speaker 4: a finger up of her thank you, nothing absolute words.

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Speaker 4: I can't say, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Radio yeah, give us the full number plate.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, that's fine, let's fine.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think everything that I've said in the last ten

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Speaker 2: apply to BMW drivers. Think we just need to keep

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Speaker 2: you separate.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Nicole here. Nicole, we're talking about whether

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Speaker 3: you get angry when you let someone into the traffic

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Speaker 3: and they don't wait that you. What's going on with you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So I actually got really super petty. A lady

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Speaker 1: didn't wait to me in the traffic, so I took

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Speaker 1: doing it, and I reported her for littering.

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Speaker 2: Well for no reason.

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Speaker 1: She didn't say thank you, but she didn't really.

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Speaker 2: Why does it grind you so much? Nicole? I'll ask

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Speaker 2: you the same question that I asked before. Would you

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Speaker 2: let someone in if you knew they weren't going to

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: So do you only let them in so that you

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Speaker 2: Is that the only reason you let someone in? No?

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Speaker 1: I think you do it to be a decent human

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Speaker 1: and then you expect them to be a decent human back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the expectation that they're going to carry your

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Speaker 2: your your your humanity through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, your parents should raise you with manners, yes, No.

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Speaker 2: Man is a free like my mum always used to

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Speaker 2: say that as well. Good man is a free like.

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Speaker 2: It's not a hard I'm not saying it's a hard.

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Speaker 3: Thing to do, given that they don't weigh acknowledgement one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent their litteries as well, she's just joined the

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Speaker 3: duds there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cologic there, there is, there's no.

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Speaker 3: Logic the study on that. The correlation between people who

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Speaker 3: don't weigh yes and people who lit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would probably be high. I'm not saying it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it would probably be high. But I'll

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Speaker 2: wrap all this up in a confusing hypothetical for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Again, it's perfect because I'm not done.

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Speaker 2: I'm not done. Do you do a good the question?

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Speaker 2: I mean it kind of comes down to doing good

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Speaker 2: things for bad people. Would you still do a good

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Speaker 2: thing for a bad person just because there they are

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Speaker 2: what you deem a bad person. That's what I'm That's

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Speaker 2: what pisses people off. You go, you go, I've done

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Speaker 2: a good thing for you, and then I've just found

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Speaker 2: out that you're undeserving of that good thing. You're a

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Speaker 2: bad person.

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Speaker 3: It must be hard for I know, doctors or paramedics

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Speaker 3: that you know go to particular scenes and they might

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Speaker 3: know that they are working on a person who has

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Speaker 3: inflicted a whole bunch of you know, vain on someone else, right,

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Speaker 3: and then they need to give them. Part of their

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Speaker 3: job is to give them the utmost care psychologically.

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Speaker 2: That must be very really hard. Yeah gee whiz well, Donewards,

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Speaker 2: that's very good. Yeah, I'm right there, aren't I Yeah,

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Speaker 2: hit it.

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Speaker 3: In the nucleus right there and then lost that.

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Speaker 2: I just got to stop when

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Speaker 4: More of the boys on the full podcast just scroll

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Speaker 4: up