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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, today is Tina Arena to Day. If you've

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Speaker 1: been listening to this podcast for the last three months,

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Speaker 1: you'll know this is all we've been working towards this.

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Speaker 1: This is our grand fight off. And keep in mind

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Speaker 1: the goal here yes to have a wonderful chat with Tina. Yes,

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Speaker 1: to promote her to it Tina Arena dot Com playing

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Speaker 1: in Melbourne, Adelaide and the Gold Coast, but and the

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Speaker 1: big Red Bash and Red Bash, which you're about to

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Speaker 1: find out. But the goal here is that I walk

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Speaker 1: away from this feeling as if I have a convivial,

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Speaker 1: platonic relationship with Tina Arena, whereby I will be able

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Speaker 1: to ask her to go for a glass of wine

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Speaker 1: with me on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: That's the goal.

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Speaker 1: Keep I need you to keep that in the print.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: The key to that was making you look very, very impressive.

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Speaker 3: So if you've missed the previous podcast, I'll quickly recap, really.

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Speaker 2: Recap, I mean I really quickly. No, no, no, no, this

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Speaker 2: just make me look impressive. This is really really crumpets.

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Speaker 2: Just this was just nothing.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to go with the journey to get

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Speaker 3: Tina fook me out. Be here for two and a

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Speaker 3: half hours. What I want to go through is just

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Speaker 3: how we're going to make you look impressive. I think

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Speaker 3: this is important before we play. Yes, we're about to

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Speaker 3: play the audio, which kicks off as we're waiting for

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Speaker 3: Tina to walk into the studio.

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Speaker 1: This is probably a minute before she walks in. And

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Speaker 1: the idea was that, rather than me bragging about the

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Speaker 1: fact that I speak French, she's got three studio albums

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Speaker 1: recorded in French and she lived in Paris for a

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Speaker 1: very long time. Yes, I needed you to bring it up.

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Speaker 3: Coincidentally, Yes, so we hatched the plan of you helping

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Speaker 3: me look at a French menu because I'm going to

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Speaker 3: a French restaurant tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: And as she opened the door and you're about to

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Speaker 3: hear this, we're literally plotting the timing of this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: As she opens the door, you say something French.

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Speaker 1: French and literally and again the timing had to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: So keep in mind what you're going to hear is

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Speaker 1: Daniel BRASEI yeah, which is a praise Lamb shoulder. Yeah, perfect,

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Speaker 1: I see her walk through the glass behind you.

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Speaker 3: But as I'm bad to say in this audio, I say,

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Speaker 3: the key is that you don't look at her, because

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Speaker 2: Anyway, you're gonna hear it all. Here is the audio

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Speaker 2: of us just before Tina walks in. Got Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: you can't see it.

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Speaker 3: God bat your head down, because if you see her,

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Speaker 3: there's no reason why you wouldn't have stoped.

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Speaker 2: We need to be deep in chat, right, So don't

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Speaker 2: don't look up. Whatever you do, don't look up.

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Speaker 1: And as the door opens, I say, ePol, Daniel Brazi

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Speaker 2: Start rapping boys in your peripher right, so you will

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Speaker 1: I'll go Is this a fresh podcast? A people just

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Speaker 1: joining this podcast? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: People are just doing oh shit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hi, guys, I've listened to part one before you

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Speaker 2: Bit of context here.

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Speaker 1: Because I can't I can't go back and explain what's

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Speaker 1: Okay, so practice Daniel Brazi. If she does, then I

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Speaker 1: we're going to go, oh wow cool okay, and then

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Speaker 1: you know that. And if if she doesn't hear it,

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Speaker 1: you say to me again, Will, what was on again?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, ye what if I miss it? What am

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Speaker 2: I ordering again? I'll say, oh ship, sorry, but what

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Speaker 1: We can hear so she's fifteen seconds like, oh wow,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely fine.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so yeah, oh wow. I don't really feel

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Speaker 1: Yep, okay, I probably get like interesting.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I want like a you don't

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Speaker 1: If I were you, I would go for an april Daniel Brasi.

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Speaker 1: Probably yeah, oh, thank you so much. That was just

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Speaker 3: Yeah about Will?

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Speaker 4: Will?

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Speaker 2: Just running me through a friend.

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Speaker 5: Tom. Nice to meet you too.

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Speaker 1: Put with them, darling, very very very nice.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming.

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Speaker 5: You're welcome very well.

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Speaker 2: I like your glasses thank you. It's stunning.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah, I'm a bit blind.

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Speaker 4: Will.

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Speaker 1: Nice to meet you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you too, mate, you're good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hanging in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah nice.

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Speaker 1: Didn't get to.

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Speaker 5: Challenged every day.

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Speaker 2: This is for you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the deal is with the If

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if there's a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just running met a French restaurant, going

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Speaker 5: I was there a long time ago. It was really lovely.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand the menu at all, so running me

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Speaker 5: Do you speak good French?

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Speaker 3: Will?

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Speaker 5: That was a really bad thing for him to say.

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Speaker 2: I used to. I used to, yeah, a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you're a lawyer, yeah I was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you left law to come and do this. Yes,

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Speaker 5: you made a good call. One of my best mates

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Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, I mean it depends what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: Well, sure, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, did you say it's okay, come on, all right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about the music in them?

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, Tina, So thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for having me. Yeah, it's really really nice

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Speaker 5: of you guys to invite me and call me at

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Speaker 5: the Blue Scene. Rob Mills so graciously handed over my

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Speaker 5: It just goes right ahead and us.

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Speaker 1: Have you spoken to Rob about that?

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Speaker 5: Thank God? I love him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a beautiful boy.

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Speaker 5: Because he'd been serious.

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Speaker 1: Well, I actually had to. I did squeeze it out

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Speaker 1: of it, like I did squeeze it out of it,

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Speaker 5: And that was that. So it's all those years of

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was an aggressive lawyer and I witnessed the

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Speaker 2: Robert had a couple of beers as well with Rob.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he got him when he was vulner He was

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Speaker 3: Rob was showing huge regret about it and was like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you're not going to do anything with that number, are you?

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Speaker 1: Yes? And to be fair, we actually were really honest

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Speaker 5: Trying that difficult to find.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we had your number, we just didn't want to, like,

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Speaker 1: so we tried, we thought about look along. Story short,

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Speaker 1: we spent the last two months on the podcast coming

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Speaker 5: Guys are really cool.

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Speaker 3: That's coming across. I'm so glad that's coming across. Do

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Speaker 3: you recall getting the text message from Michelle Saliba, who

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Speaker 5: I love Michelle. She was so great with us and

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Speaker 5: the kids. Jeez, we had an amazing group of people

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Speaker 2: She says the same thing. She just said, it was

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Speaker 5: That's why I probably haven't lost my mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's small, Tina or maybe, but that's I think

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Speaker 3: for people that don't know Young Talent Time, and I

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of them does, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: Opposed to Michelle's your mother in law.

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Speaker 2: So Michelle's my mother in law.

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Speaker 5: That's that good woman.

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Speaker 2: She's the best.

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Speaker 5: You're a very lucky man, I am telling you so.

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Speaker 3: But what's different about Young Talent Time to say singing

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Speaker 3: week after week after week, which is quite different to

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Speaker 3: you know, an Australian Idol or X Factor, where there's

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Speaker 3: almost so you you're on Young Talent Time for how

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Speaker 3: many years?

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Speaker 5: Nearly eight? But it was it was you know, Young

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Speaker 5: Talent Time was the it was learning a craft. Really

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Speaker 5: just go, oh my god. You know, I learned about

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 5: And I'm very grateful to him. Learning how to dance,

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Speaker 5: So it's a big, big family show with lots and

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Speaker 5: I was really young?

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Speaker 5: So we have that, but they are It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: This is what you love.

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Speaker 5: I mean anger, Yeah, of course you can't. You take

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Speaker 5: And art has always been a vehicle for people to

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Speaker 1: Well, you have no sense of not expressing yourself in

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Speaker 5: But it's liberating as well.

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Speaker 2: Can you hear that? You can?

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Speaker 1: And I was like riding my bike listening to it

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Speaker 2: I'm Joan of Arc.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've fist pumped on the train to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's a there's a real sense of like

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Speaker 5: I mean, who was not skating on thin ice during

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: I was always taught to lead by example, so I

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Speaker 5: want the best for you, which is not easy to do,

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Speaker 5: let's face it. And it doesn't matter what you do.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what you do for a living. It's

449
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Speaker 5: all about people. It's all about alchemy, it's about the

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Speaker 5: chemistry of those people coming together for a common goal.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that people still love you and people

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Speaker 1: still want to see you, and that's because of that

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Speaker 1: theme of being true to yourself and rebelling against what

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Speaker 1: you think is wrong and standing up for what you

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Speaker 1: think is right. And it's funny because we just spoke

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Speaker 1: about all those songs on Love Saves, which are examples

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Speaker 1: of that, you know, Dancing on Thin Eyes, Can't Say Anything,

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Speaker 1: Devil in Me, all of those songs expressing that theme.

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Speaker 1: And then I was reading earlier that it's thirty years

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Speaker 1: since this song came out, which feels.

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Speaker 4: Like a pretty common thread between what you were feeling

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Speaker 4: then and what you're seeing about now.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, that was a young Tino that I think.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I think that there's subconsciously I really

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Speaker 5: I think I have some pretty elevated intuition that's probably

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Speaker 5: gotten better as I've gotten older. I've started to listen

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Speaker 5: to Finally, it took me a long time. I think

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Speaker 5: I knew back then when chains was penned that I

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Speaker 5: was in for one hell of a ride, and I

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Speaker 5: was right, and that ride being really amazing, but Jesus,

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Speaker 5: it was hard.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Taya, thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 2: I could talk to you forether.

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Speaker 1: I've got so much to talk to you about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll have to catch up another time.

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Speaker 5: But thank you for Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate the opportunity to chat too. It's really

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Speaker 5: it's great in this in these times that we live

479
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Speaker 5: in with everything so micro, managed to be able to

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Speaker 5: have a great conversation for me is a real blessing.

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Speaker 5: So thank you so much for your supporter. Really, thank

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Speaker 5: you means a lot.

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Speaker 1: Very much pleasure.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Adelaide April sixth, Festival Theater April twenty six,

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Speaker 3: twenty seven, Melbourne Town Hall, May eleventh, service Paradise at

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Speaker 3: Hotel or third of July at the Big Red Bat.

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Speaker 5: The Big Red version is going to be. It's going

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Speaker 5: to be an experience.

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Speaker 1: Amazing line up Tina Randa dot Com for all of that, Tina,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys, have a really great day. Thanks bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Thanks Tina, thanks for the chat, No worry, I

493
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Speaker 1: learned so much.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nice, you know what I mean, it's nice.

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Speaker 5: It's always nice to hear her from the horse's mouth.

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Speaker 1: Story and your thoughts behind your music, and yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was really awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks taking the time. Yeah, bye, Tina, thank you. Pretty good. Wow,

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Speaker 2: hang on.

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Speaker 1: And we're clear gone, Wow, pretty.

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Speaker 3: Good finally Yeah, like life experience, extraordinary to hear all

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Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, obviously, but let's you know, let's postpark

503
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Speaker 3: that for a second. Okay, your friendship with her, Yeah,

504
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Speaker 3: the start was awful.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean was it?

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Speaker 1: Well, we eventually we got there. But initially she was

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Speaker 1: commenting on Lj's accent.

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Speaker 2: Weird.

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Speaker 1: She was like a great accent, and I was like perfect,

510
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Speaker 1: and then it turns out it was bloody l Jay's accent.

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Speaker 2: Yep, nightmare.

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Speaker 3: And then I went to go and tell her what

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Speaker 3: was happening, and then she introduced herself to you, Tom,

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Speaker 3: and then I was like, damn it, she didn't hear that.

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Speaker 1: And then you went again, and then I was like,

516
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Speaker 1: I think you're guilding the lily.

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Speaker 2: I was like, back off, back off, we got it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, finally you might have been to this

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Speaker 3: restaurant Tea and then we were.

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Speaker 1: There Bistro Tieri and then Tom Tom really Tom really

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Speaker 1: really rammed at.

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Speaker 3: Home with that.

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Speaker 2: I'm grateful.

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful. I'm grateful because all of a sudden, I'm

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Speaker 1: a lawyer, I speak French in Paris.

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Speaker 3: The way you looked at me as well as like

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Speaker 3: this cheeky smell of like, oh, you're doing.

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Speaker 1: It great hit her high boys, and I was acting

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Speaker 1: quite like, oh god, guys, take my eyes, but don't

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Speaker 1: mention this stuff.

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Speaker 3: And her reaction was, oh, you must be hating this,

532
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Speaker 3: which is exactly.

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Speaker 2: Which is what we want. It's a success.

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Speaker 1: It has to it has to.

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Speaker 2: Be a success. Mate.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, there is an easy text message

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Speaker 3: after that entire chat, there is an easy text message.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not you would actually want this.

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Speaker 3: There was a huge chat there in like so interesting

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Speaker 3: hearing about you like doing what you want to do

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Speaker 3: in this industry. Yeah, I'd love to. I'd love to

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Speaker 3: rack your brain more about that.

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Speaker 1: Usually yeah, no, I think you pick someone's brain, pick

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Speaker 1: the brain, you rack your own brain, racking my brain.

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Speaker 3: But because because you would actually enjoy that chat, right,

546
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Speaker 3: But I also think you can tell from her she

547
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Speaker 3: wants to share.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she wants to just got.

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Speaker 1: So much wisdom that is that is really nice, relaxed

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Speaker 1: at which is more than I ever could have asked for.

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Speaker 1: What a what a legend.

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Speaker 2: Oh, just coming in.

553
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Speaker 1: Here and entertaining us.

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Speaker 2: She's been in the industry for fifty years. Yeah, fifty

555
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Speaker 2: So she's been in it since she was eight.

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Speaker 1: That is insane.

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Speaker 2: The biggest head fuck ye ever heard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, eight eight years and yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 3: like any other like what Beeble would have been what

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Speaker 3: sixteen fifteen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's yeah exactly, she was eight years old. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't like she did like it, you know,

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Speaker 3: you see the real young child stars like maybe pop

566
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Speaker 3: up like dude one thing on Ellen DeGeneres or something.

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Speaker 2: She was going.

568
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Speaker 3: She was like performing like a professional.

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Speaker 2: She was working, working, She was.

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Speaker 3: Doing weekly live shows for years from the age right,

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Speaker 3: not okay, you actually wouldn't be allowed to do that

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Speaker 3: these No, I was really really lucky that I had

573
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Speaker 3: people actually looked after me, like.

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Speaker 1: Michelle, like Michelle bob Up didn't comment on the text,

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Speaker 1: didn't go in on the text.

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Speaker 2: But we'll right at the end. Did she right at

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Speaker 2: the end?

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Speaker 3: I think she wrote me a text I'm sorry and

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Speaker 3: I didn't. Yeah, that's so I'll tell Michelle that Michelle listens.

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Speaker 3: So absolutely Michelle loves you. I'm sure you heard that

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Speaker 3: Michelle loves you.

582
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Speaker 2: She actually did.

583
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Speaker 1: She hugging the way said please give you love and

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Speaker 1: give my love to Michelle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally handself very well. Take me you.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't have been happier with how that went. I

587
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Speaker 3: think I'm really happy. And now you know, we talk

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00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: and you could eat after that. You could easily text.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't even matter what you text her. She wants

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Speaker 3: to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Just go, Tina, text her after the show today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just keep the fire burning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again. Look, I personally I throw it.

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Speaker 3: I love to pick your brain more about the industry.

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00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: Just throw one of their mouths.

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Speaker 2: Just don't, don't put a date or time, and it

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Speaker 2: just go.

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Speaker 3: I'd actually love to pick your brain more about.

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Speaker 1: Industry one time. We'll see you, guys.

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Speaker 2: That was massive. I'm can see it all the socials.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I'll tell you what to be funny on

602
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Speaker 3: the socials. I tell you what would be funny on

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Speaker 3: the socials is our whole rehearsal and plan and it

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Speaker 3: just going to absolute ship and then how we scrambled

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Speaker 3: to get there.

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Speaker 2: That will be a funny video which I'm sure you're

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Speaker 2: get on our.

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Speaker 1: Socials watching that.

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Speaker 2: To see you guys tomorrow