1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this very special episode of Outspoken Sophie. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: You are joining us back on the mics five weeks 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: after giving birth to your beautiful son, Luca. You are 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: currently holding him. So if you hear any cute little 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: baby noises, that is Luca when he keeps dropping his 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: dummy at the moment, I'm just like watching him. I'm 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: watching Archie. We're recording this on a Sunday afternoon, and 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: our neighbors have also started to drill something, so hopefully 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: we get there in the end. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Now, for those who don't know, Luca's full name is 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Luca Archie Hancock. So for those who don't know, how 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: did this name come about? 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: I think OG's will pick up that Archie is my 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: dog's name, my firstborn child's name, and it's I think 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: it's a real millennial thing to give the middle name 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: as your dog's name. I've heard so many people doing it. 17 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 18 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: I actually got the idea from one of my friends 19 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: who actually owns Archie's brother, so she was going to 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: call her son Will give her son the middle name 21 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Winston after him. She ended up not doing it and 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: going with a family name, which could have been a 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: good dame, but in saying that we love the name Archie, 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: and if we didn't have Archie, Luca's first name probably 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: was going to be Archie. And I just love that 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Archie is going to be and we think he's his 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: big brother and he's going to be such a big 28 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: part of his life, and I think it's a way 29 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: to always have Archie in our lives forever. So that 30 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: is why we chose that as the middle name. 31 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: But there was also a bit of a Love Island 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 2: theme with the name. 33 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I mean I did drop a few clues 34 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. I said that in my baby 35 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: shower post, I was getting all influencer and I said 36 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: that there was a bit of a clue in there 37 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: as to what his name was. Now that clue is 38 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: that amy for my baby shower you made me? Was 39 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: it scratchy cards? That were fine? The dad? Yes? Yeah, 40 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: And basically I had Luca Bish, who was one of 41 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: my favorite contestants on Love Island. And my husband keeps saying, 42 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: don't tell people that we named him after Lucabish. We 43 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: didn't name him after him. We were inspired by that name, 44 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: but you'd named him after we. No, we just love 45 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: the name. As soon as his name was on Love Island, 46 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: we were like, that is so a cool name. And 47 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I think also because I liked Luke Crump, like, oh, 48 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: I'd love to have a son that had that sort 49 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: of personality. And well, it's also difficult because you really 50 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: liked the name Henry, and Amy went with Harry, which 51 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: is of course traditionally short for Henry, and both of 52 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: your husband's surnames start with an H, so it could 53 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: have been Harry Humphreys and Henry Hancock. I don't actually 54 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: think he looks like a Henry, though, now I'm looking 55 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: at him, I'm like, I feel like he suits the name. Luca. 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Being the last sister out of us to give birth, 57 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: did you feel any different type of pressure on you 58 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: because obviously you'd heard in great detail our birth stories. 59 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: We've sat down and recorded each of these episodes for 60 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Amy and I Luke, as much as i'd heard your 61 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: birth stories in depth, I don't think anything could have 62 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: really prepared me for what I was about to go through. 63 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: I purposely didn't look too much into caesareans because I'm 64 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: the sort of person i'd rather I think I'd build 65 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: up too much anxiety if I knew the complete ins 66 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: and out of medical information. But I probably should have 67 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: looked more into it because I was actually horrified how 68 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: much I felt during surgery, and I was like the 69 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: whole time to brand and I'm like, is this normal? Like? 70 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Has has this not worked properly? Like I'm feeling a lot. See, 71 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that is the norm. I mean I 72 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: didn't experience that, Amy. I think your experience was similar 73 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: to mine, where I felt a bit of pressure, but 74 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't painful. 75 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: I remember the doctor told me that I was gonna 76 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: feel like I was a handbag that they were rummaging through, 77 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: and I feel like that was a pretty good description. 78 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: You gave me that analogy, Amy, And during the procedure, 79 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this definitely feels a lot more 80 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: severe than that. They had to lower my head during 81 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: the surgery quite a few times to make sure that 82 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: the anesthetic was working propping you down, so it kind 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: of propping me around. Yeah. Yeah, And even before they 84 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: started the surgery, they kept being like, have this eye so, like, 85 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: can you feel that? I'm like, yes, I can I 86 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: feel it. 87 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: I want to know how Brandon went with this all 88 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: because A listener wrote in and asked, did his dad 89 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: have to step in for him? 90 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: I feel like we've got to rewind to the start, 91 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: because Amy, I really enjoyed hearing about the up to 92 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: you actually going to the hospital. There was that infamous 93 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: moment where Dale wanted to stop for McDonald's on the 94 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: way there. We actually ended up having to go in 95 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: at We had to be there at six forty five 96 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: at Flinda's Medical Center, So no stop for macas breakfast. No, 97 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: And there was already some contention. I think we sort 98 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: of alluded to it on the podcast Kate in the 99 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: weeks leading up to me having Luca, because I was 100 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: actually given the same date as Jack's birthday and we 101 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. We were like, are they serious? Like 102 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: when the person called through, because we knew that our 103 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: due dates were going to be pretty similar, Kate, but 104 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: obviously a year apart, and when the person from the 105 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: hospital rang with the date, I just knew it was 106 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: going to be this seventeen And I was like, oh 107 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: my god, is Kate going to take this really badly? 108 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: Because with us having to share birthdays, we don't want 109 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: our sons to have to share everything, and we were like, Oh, 110 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: we're going to have to do joint birthday parties or 111 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: we're going to have to fight for that date. Well, 112 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: I think we're still going to have to fight for 113 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: the day, but at least they have their own set 114 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: parate days. So a week out from your schedule day, 115 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: you got a call asking if you could come in 116 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: a day earlier. Can you take us back to that day, 117 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: that morning of that day. Oh, I feel like I'm 118 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: almost going a bit of PTSD thinking back to that time, 119 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: because it was such a whirlwind. I was trying so 120 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: hard to get everything ready in the week's leading up 121 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: to the birth, and our dog got really sick and 122 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: we were in and out of the vets, and then 123 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Brandon's parents got COVID and we were worried that they 124 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to come and meet their grandson. And 125 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: it was all happening, and because I feel like, you're 126 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: very aware that you're not going to have any time 127 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: to do things, so you're getting all these jobs out 128 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: the way, and the day before I remember I was 129 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: rushing around to Big w picking up last minute things 130 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: that I needed and anyway, so we somehow we actually 131 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: did get some sleep the night before, which I was 132 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: very shocked about. But anyway, we woke up early, I 133 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: have to say, because I did get a lot of 134 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: questions about my makeup. Funnily enough, because I'm okay, but 135 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: you get told that you're not a lot of wear 136 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: makeup when you're having a Cesarean amy. You bucked the 137 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: trend and said fuck it, I'm doing I thought, nah, 138 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing it too, So I got up very early. 139 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: I put makeup on, I straightened my hair. I'm like, 140 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: I just want to feel like me. I think during 141 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: your pregnancy you don't feel like you. I did a 142 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: tan as well. I was my last, well not the 143 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: diet before, but I did a tan leading into but 144 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: your birth. You would have missed your stomach though, because 145 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: you kind of did. It was the weirdest looking town. 146 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: I also missed around my boobs because I'm like, well, 147 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: if I'm breastfing, I don't want him drinking. 148 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: The tan was the tan just on your neck and 149 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: your arms. 150 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I did it all over, but I just didn't do 151 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: it near my where the incision was going to be. 152 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: And I put a sports bra on, so I did 153 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: it around so it would have looked really funny, but 154 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: that sounds really vain. But it was more than I 155 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: was feeling, just not like myself, and I thought, well, 156 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 1: all these people are going to be seeing me in 157 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: the nut, so I will try and put whatever. 158 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: You've got to do to make yourself feel a bit 159 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: more secure on that. 160 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I mean I put foundation on. 161 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: I didn't do too much else because I didn't want 162 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: them to be like, why do you have makeup? So 163 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: no cut, crease or no, I didn't do my lashes, no, no. 164 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: But actually the photo of you that you shared, but 165 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: I actually took that photo and I felt so rude 166 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: at the time, but I was like, so, I think 167 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: you should brush your hair in the middle like Parder 168 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: and do a nicer ponytail because your hair was a 169 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: bit all over the place. And I felt this pressure 170 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: to get a good photo of you because I knew 171 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: that if I didn't, I'd have to come back do 172 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: it again. 173 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: And also remember you messaging me being like, oh should 174 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: I bring my hair straight now? Did you actually end 175 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: up using it? Well, yeah, I was like, please, I 176 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: don't think you need to look. I did actually pack it, 177 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: but no, I did not have time or the need 178 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: to use that item, but I mean, you never know. 179 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: So back to the morning, So were you guys running 180 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: on time? Did you feel prepared? We were actually ten 181 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: minutes early. I was shocked. So we arrived and the 182 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: actual administration office where you check in wasn't even open. 183 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: I think I sent you guys a snapchat. I was like, 184 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: oh my god. And it was just such a nervous 185 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: drive because it was pitch black as well. It felt 186 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: really scary, like you know, when you can't even get 187 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: your head around where you're going and what you're doing. 188 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe I'm about to be 189 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: cut open, Like I feel like we didn't have any 190 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: time for any breakfast or you're not allowed to have 191 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: any food, but Brownon definitely didn't stop for breakfast. It 192 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: was funny though, because he obviously has spoken about his 193 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: fear of being there whilst the surgery is happening, So 194 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: he had packed a lot of power raids in a bag, 195 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: and when we finally got taken through to the birthing 196 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: sweet or the waiting room, whatever you would call it, 197 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: he was told that he had to put his bag, 198 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: which had all of his dash of drinks and also 199 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: lollies to keep up his blood sugar levels away in 200 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: a locker and he was like, are you sure that 201 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: I can't keep this drink with me? The like nope, 202 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: it has to go away. And I think the funniest 203 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: bit is when the midwife comes in and they ask 204 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: you all like have you shaved recently or do you 205 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: need to be shaved? And I had heard all these 206 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: horror stories about people getting staff infections from shaving the 207 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: night before or you know, doing it too soon in 208 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: the leader. Now you're talking about your pubic area. Yes, 209 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: so I probably left it a bit too long, so 210 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: I thought, I don't want to be unsafe. Not to 211 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: share too many details, but it's quite hard to manage 212 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: hair in that area when you are heavily pregnant. You 213 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: can't even see mom. So I thought, oh, I'm all 214 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: good whatever, And the midwife's like, oh, so you do 215 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: you need us? I was like, no, I'm all good. 216 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I did it a couple of weeks, so I think 217 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: it should be fine. They're like, nah, actually you do 218 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: need to be shaved out. They got the weed whacker out. 219 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: And I'm telling this story because it was hilarious because 220 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: when there was another couple across from us, and we 221 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: heard the midwife come in and she's like, have you 222 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: shaved it? You will be prepared. And she's like, yeah, 223 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: the hobby did it yesterday for me. Actually that's a 224 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: good husband. Yeah, And I was like, I was like 225 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: hold in a second, though, because in the middle I 226 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: was like like, good job. I was like, you're not 227 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: supposed to it the day before. You might get scratches 228 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: and it might get infected. I was very confused. I 229 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: think the funniest thing that happened during this whole experience 230 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: was when the midwife handed us the scrubs so obviously 231 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: a pair for brand and a pair for myself, and 232 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: she said, make sure you take your underpants off anyway. 233 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: So I went to a separate room, we both got 234 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: changed brown and came back in and said, was I 235 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: supposed to remove my under got anyway? I thought that 236 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: that was a ridiculous question until our friends across the 237 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: ward from us again piped up and her husband asked 238 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: the same question, said, oh, am, I supposed to. 239 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: Take my. 240 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean obviously, so for your having to have your 241 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: underpants off because they're inserting a catheter in, like you're 242 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: giving birth. But I would like to know why Brandon 243 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: and the gentlemen across the poorway thought that they needed 244 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: their jobs off. Maybe that the midwife had a bit 245 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: of authority when she spoke and they didn't want to 246 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: do the wrong thing. Maybe Brandish himself. Does everyone's partners 247 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: look so good in the scrubs though? I mean, you're 248 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: there looking the worst you've probably ever looked, and then 249 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: your husband's all looking great, and their scrubs look like 250 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: they've been worn for the last like thirty years, so 251 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: they're not new. Yeah, well it was. It was really 252 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: frustrating though, because even though we got in super early 253 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: with oh, everything's happening so quick, we're going to be 254 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: in there soon, but then we got told that and 255 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: mistake had happened. So this had to do with the 256 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: original date. So because we've been put forward a date early, 257 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: we were apparently on an emergency list, so they'd forgotten 258 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: to take us off the emergency list. So because it 259 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: was an elective cesarean, they said, look, I'm sorry, this 260 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: isn't gonna happen till like later in the afternoon. And 261 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: I was so pissed off, Like it got to the 262 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: point where They then said, oh, we'll give you some 263 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: water you can start drinking. You probably quite dehydrated anyway. 264 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: Then within half an hour they're back saying, actually, we're 265 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: going to do this in the next half an hour. 266 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: I just loved Brandon retelling how when he walked into 267 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: the surgery all of the people were like, don't touch 268 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: the equipment, Like what do they expect that the husband's 269 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: going to do, like go pick. 270 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Up a scalpel. Especially Brandon, he wouldn't even look at 271 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: the equipment, plays by the rules, he wouldn't touch anything. 272 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: But it was quite confronting having the epidural because the 273 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: anetheenis told me beforehand, Oh, I should take about four 274 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: to five minutes to get it in. Mine took post 275 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: a half an hour to get in. I was so uncomfortable. 276 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: I was sitting on the edge of the operating table 277 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: leaning down for half an hour. This is over your bump. 278 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: It was so sore. And I kept saying to Brandon 279 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: because he was there holding my hand, and he's like, 280 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. I'm like, are you sure, Like 281 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: is this normal? And he said it was really bad 282 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: because he could see everything happening in the background. And 283 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: they were struggling to find the right spot, and he's like, 284 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: I could see a needle, like this massive needle that 285 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: get try to put it. They tried five times. It 286 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: was horrendous. Yeah, they had to have a few goes 287 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: at mine. At one point they're like, oh, do you 288 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: think it's in. I was like, you bloody tell me. 289 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: It's funny because around Mother's Day that an image of 290 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: the epidural needle went viral and I was praying that 291 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: you didn't see it day. Oh my god, it's like, 292 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's long. Yeah. That was probably one of 293 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the worst bits of it the because there were two 294 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: anethetists in there, and the one who I'd spoken to earlier, 295 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: he was clearly the senior guy there. He had to 296 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: take over and do it himself, so I think it 297 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: must have been maybe a junior person doing it. Anyway, 298 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: a few weeks leading into my birth cake, we spoke 299 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: about how Anna macavoy had that very glamorous sea section 300 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: photo and I was joking that there was a bit 301 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: of pressure on me to make sure I had a 302 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: nice one to put it out there. We had a 303 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: lovely guy who went to the end of the earth, 304 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: to try and snap as many photos as he could 305 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: during the whole procedure, to the point where I have 306 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: seen too much of myne gutsh He got too over 307 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: excited because I haven't been able to look at the 308 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: photos because Brown is like, you really don't want to 309 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: see that. When people will say, oh, a C section 310 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: is the cop out, it's the easy way out, it 311 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: definitely is not. There is something so confronting about being 312 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: operated on whilst you are completely with it. Going back 313 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: to the photo though, it was quite funny because I 314 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: said to brand I'm like, Brannie, can you take my 315 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: handhead off? I just want to get a nice photo? 316 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: And He's like, we aren't taking the handhead off in 317 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: this situation. So I had the most horrendous Yeah, you're 318 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: not allowed to take it off? How about all these 319 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: other people? And people do they just slip it off? 320 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: But I have to say I am usually not the 321 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: most emotional person. I did have a bit of a 322 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: tear when Luca came out, like it was the most 323 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: incredible experience. We had Taylor Swift a course playing the 324 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: whole time, and what sorong was playing Golden So that's 325 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: actually the song that I chose on Instagram, and yeah, 326 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: it was just such a special moment and it was 327 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: so sweet because Brannie could see how stressed I was 328 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: during the procedure, because I could feel so much of 329 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: what was going on, and he kept saying to me 330 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: during it, now, what song is this? Like, tell me 331 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: the name of the song? Like he was amazing throughout 332 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and getting back to one of the 333 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: original questions, No, he didn't get his dad to step in. 334 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: He was amazing. He actually did cut the umbilical cords 335 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: as wow wow, so he said, he was like, I 336 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: saw all of this gory shit going on that I 337 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: thought I can cut the umbilical cord. This is nothing 338 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: too bad to what you're going through. Has Brandon's fear 339 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: of hospitals now decreased since six periods? Well, I don't know. 340 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: We did have a kind of a rough stay there 341 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: because we were all ready to go on day two 342 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: and we'd actually packed up our whole room. I was 343 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: so excited to leave, like, you know, you just want 344 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: to be home and you want to start that next chapter. 345 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: But the pediatrician picked up on the fact that Luca 346 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: was doing this little twitch and I hadn't even noticed it. 347 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we just hadn't noticed it at all. 348 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: And it's really lucky she picked up on it, because 349 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: it turned out that he had really low blood sugar levels. 350 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: And this was due to the fact that, and this 351 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: is a case with so many babies, because your milk 352 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: doesn't come in for a few days, you were feeding 353 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: them the smallest amount of colosterum possible. And we went 354 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: in knowing that we wanted to mix feed him day dot. 355 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: You guys told me you should bring in some formula. 356 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: I did not because I know that there's a lot 357 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: of midwives who are really against formula, and I just 358 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: felt too awkward to do it. I wish I had 359 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: because he was struggling to put on enough weight. He 360 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: was born at three point one kilograms. He's always been 361 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: a really small baby throughout the whole thing. My stomach 362 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: has been measuring small the whole time. And basically we 363 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: did request could we please have some formula on day two. 364 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: Now the midwife also had suggested it as well, but 365 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: the person who was higher up said, no, we just 366 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: are going to get you to try and pump more 367 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: and try and get more colosterum. Ridiculous that they don't 368 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: go by what the parent wants. And also because you 369 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: were throwing up a lot of mucus, which can be 370 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: a side effect of having a cesarian, because when they're 371 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: pushed through the birth canal vaginally, it pushes a lot 372 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: of the mucus and fluid out of their lungs. Yeah, 373 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: that was probably one of the scariest moments on day two. 374 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: It was really lucky there was a midwife in the 375 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: room because he started coughing and choking up on it 376 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: and he almost turned blue. So yeah, that was stopping 377 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: him from taking in a lot of calories as well. 378 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, that led to him unfortunately having low blood 379 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: sugar levels. So we got taken down to the neonatal 380 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: ward and I have to say the whole medical team, 381 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: even though the midwives are against formula, they were all 382 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: so lovely. Everyone was so incredible. I feel like I 383 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: became friends with so many of the midwives. They're like 384 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: the ones who would come in for the late night feeds. 385 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: We got chatting about Love Island and just so many 386 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: different things. I was so lovely, but yeah, it was 387 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: it was super scary because I never ever thought that 388 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: we would be in that situation. There are just there 389 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: were so many very premature babies in there, and there 390 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: was a really scary moment where he was having his 391 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: blood taken and all of a sudden a parent pushed 392 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: the emergency button and literally every single doctor and nurse 393 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: there sprinted to this room to try and help this 394 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: poor baby. And that just set me off. And I remember thinking, 395 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, if that's the reaction to a button 396 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: being pressed down here, this is pretty serious that we're 397 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: down here. And I think it was extra difficult for 398 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: you because you'd recently seen Amy stay for two nights 399 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: and get discharged very quickly in the same experience for me, 400 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: so it was just like, hang on, what because yeah, well, 401 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: because he also had jaundice as well, and he was 402 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: quite orange. But I remember Harry had it to a 403 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: certain extent. Jack seemed to have it to a certain extent. 404 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, he got to a situation where Paul Luca 405 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: had to go into an incubator and they were going 406 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: to have to administer an IV drip to him. They 407 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: said it was quite a confronting situation and we might 408 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: not want to see it. Luckily, he did perk up 409 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: and we gave him some formula which then raised his 410 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: blood sugar levels so he was able to come back 411 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: to our room, but he had to stay in the 412 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: incubator for six hours, so we had to go back 413 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: to our room, and it was just so difficult leaving him. 414 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: And whilst we were there, we were hearing all these 415 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: stories about other parents who had to stay on the 416 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: ward there and their partners had to leave. And that 417 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: was my biggest fear, being left there by myself, because 418 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you're recovering from major surgery as it is, 419 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: and I mean I was pretty good. I was walking 420 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: around day two. I couldn't believe it, like you were 421 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: just up and about, because I think it was on 422 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: day two that it hit me. And also you amy 423 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: like I remember, you're on a high the first day, 424 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: and then the second day you're like, I've got to 425 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: get out of bed and like walk around. But you 426 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: were amazing. I don't know what it was. I think 427 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: I had a lot of adrenaline going because he wasn't 428 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: doing so well. I think I just felt like it's 429 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: all about him. I've got to get up, I've got 430 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: to do these things. I've got to make it happen. 431 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, it wasn't the nicest hospital stay, but again, 432 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: the staff was so incredible. On a lighter note, someone 433 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: messaged us asking if we snuck in some sombreros for you. 434 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: What firstly was your first meal after labor. Yeah, well 435 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: Brannon's job was the Uber eats collector, of course, because 436 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't actually walk, but he organized for us to 437 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: have McDonald's and we actually had that two nights in 438 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: a row because there's a macas right near it. Yeah. 439 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: I just I almost just couldn't be bothered to make 440 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: the decision, like you know, you're like, oh, it's easy. 441 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: You ended up bringing in gyg amy, which was probably 442 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: my most delicious meal to day. That was I think 443 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: when we were told that we had to stay in 444 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: extra night and I was feeling pretty sad and sorry 445 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: for myself, so that made it a little bit bright sadly. 446 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: No zambies, No zambies. Yeah, I mean, we've got a 447 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: zombies around the corner. I can have zambies whenever I want. 448 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: But no, I didn't have zambies. I didn't eat any 449 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: of the hospital food. Oh did you have any of 450 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: the sandwiches? They were really nice? Yeah, I said to them. Oh, 451 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: my sisters told me that there's this chicken sandwich that's delicious. 452 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: But they said, we've never had a chicken sandwich here, So. 453 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: What the hell was I eating? 454 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: I had a salad sandwich that was incredible. I had 455 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: a tomato and cheese sandwich. But again I have to 456 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: talk about our friends across the world from us, because 457 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: I was just about to enjoy this beautiful sandwich. I 458 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: think I'd had one bite, and then the poor woman 459 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: across from me she'd also had a sea section, and 460 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: at that moment she decided to well, she started throwing up, 461 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is perfect timing. They're like, 462 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: would you like to go the room now? I'm like, yes, Well, 463 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: what was it like? 464 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: What was it like returning home? Because that must have 465 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: felt really good? And can you talk us? So I 466 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: suppose what it's been like. Have you got into a 467 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: routine yet with Luca? Yeah? 468 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Again, it was interesting returning home because you know, I 469 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: think once all babies leave, they do lose a bit 470 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: of their birth weight initially, so he went down to 471 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: two point eight kilos, and due to his jaundice and 472 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: also the low blood sugar levels, we had to have 473 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: midwives coming every two days to retest him, and there 474 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: was always this threat that I was going to have 475 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: to go back into the new neonatal ward, so that 476 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: was really like weighing heavy on me for quite some time. 477 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: I think that was when isn't that don't they say 478 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: day three is when you have your baby blues found, 479 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: It's when your milk comes in, so maybe like day 480 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: four or five. Yeah, to be completely honest, I found 481 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: the first week really difficult. Like I I think also 482 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: the fact that it's dark so early. I felt really 483 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: quite down. But I'm feeling a lot better now. I 484 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: think it was just that early week of getting used 485 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: to everything and just having that anxiety that I was 486 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: going to have to go back to the hospital. It 487 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: felt like a big cloud over you. And I think 488 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: once he finally got cleared of the blood sugar levels 489 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: and the jaundice, I felt a lot better. But again, 490 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: because he is a smaller baby, we've really been having 491 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: to do a lot of feed so we are feeding 492 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: him every three hours during the day and then overnight 493 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: every four hours. So it's been quite intense. And I 494 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: was initially breastfeeding to begin with, but because he was 495 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: struggling to put on weight. I really wanted to make 496 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: sure that I was breastfeeding and topping up with formula, 497 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: But then I really wanted to express because I wanted 498 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: to know exactly how much he was getting, and that 499 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: was the recommendation from the doctor as well. So it's 500 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: been an interesting ride in terms of your feeding schedule 501 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: because it is insane. I was doing every four hours 502 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: and I thought that was bad. You guys have been 503 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: making the experience a little bit better by watching some 504 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: old classics Onto the tay. Yeah. I for some reason, 505 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: Brandon switched on Blue Water High. That was He's five 506 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: years younger than me, so he was actually of the 507 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: age of being a child when that show was on, 508 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: so he loved it. It was bringing back a lot of 509 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: memories for him. So I was first like, I don't 510 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: want to watch this. As soon as Deckthan from Neighbors 511 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: came on, I was like, Oh, what's this about? This 512 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: is quite so I got hooked on it and got 513 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: into it. We've also been watching Love Island. Thank God 514 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: for Love Island UK being up. That has been my 515 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: show and what I've been living for at the moment. 516 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: So good the produce we haven't even spoken about it 517 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: on podcasts. Yeah, but the producers, the change ups that 518 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: they've done to that show to make you hooked. 519 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: Have been very not a great time to have a 520 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: newborn baby called Harry. Harry has become one of my 521 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: favorite characters on there now or characters. 522 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: Harrison's made him look a lot better. Harry's grown to 523 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: me because at first I'm like, oh, yuck, and now 524 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's actually quite sweet. Someone asked, how 525 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: did Archie go meeting Luca for the first time. We 526 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: were so nervous about that because Archie has been literally 527 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: the center of our universe for five years, like he 528 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: knows that he's, you know, being number one, and we 529 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: were nervous how he'd go because I mean, obviously he's 530 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: had a bit to do with Jack and Harry, but 531 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: you never know in their own environment how they're going 532 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: to be. So we were really careful when introducing him. 533 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: So the first night we came home, we actually had 534 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: him stay at my mother and father in law's place, 535 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: and then the next day we didn't want him returning 536 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: to just the three of us being there and him 537 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: feeling like he was coming into a situation he wasn't 538 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: aware of. So basically Brandon and I left the house 539 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: with the bran. We then got my mother in law 540 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: and sister in law to bring Archie in. Then one 541 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: by one I came in to see him, made a 542 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: fuss of him, went out. Then Brandon came in, made 543 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: a fuss of him, and then we brought Luca in. 544 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: And I think that was probably the best way to 545 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: go about it, because he has exceeded our expectations. He 546 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: has been incredible. He has been the sweetest, most gentle 547 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: big brother. He's so protective over him. He's been, like 548 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: we were saying the other day, we just can't believe 549 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: how good he's been. Brandon is sleeping with him a lead, though, 550 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: so I said around we don't need to do that anymore. 551 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: But he's basically put Archie sleeps with his harness on 552 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: in the bedroom and Brandon has his lead around his 553 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: arm so in case he because the whole night, yeah, 554 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: the whole night. I think we need to stop it 555 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: now because I think he's gone. 556 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: But I think that's quite safe though, because you're sleeping 557 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: with the bassinet right near your bed. 558 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: I think his Brandon's fear is what if Archie decided 559 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: that he wanted to sit in the basinet with him 560 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: and sit on him. 561 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my fear with my cats. Yeah, I don't 562 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: let them stay in our room at night time because 563 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm so scared of one of them just sitting on her. 564 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: To be careful. See my God and Retrievers, they sleep 565 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: on the bed, and they were just not interested in 566 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Jack's and his bascinet at all. Like the thing is, 567 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't have even been able to jump into it. 568 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: Accidents can happen. Yeah, so careful. I don't know how 569 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: i'd go sleeping with a lead on my risk the 570 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: whole time. I suppose you're not getting much. Well it's 571 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: not me and Brandon's like, no, I just feel safe 572 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: for doing it. So I'm like, okay, whatever. 573 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: Poor Archie, how much sleep are you getting. 574 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: It's hard because we've been trying to make the feet 575 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: it's fun. We're in that stupid position where we're still 576 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: doing the feeds together. You guys need to stop. We 577 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: need to split them up. So because it's every three 578 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: to four hours, we don't have a consistent set time. 579 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: It sort of changes each day, so you don't you 580 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean like it's it's not every night 581 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: at two am. It could be three am or whatever. 582 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's been interesting. We're doing Doctor Gollie at 583 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: the moment because I mean, it works so well for you, Kate, 584 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: it's been working really well when you're doing Doctor Golli 585 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: because people think, oh, it's just this sleep training, it's 586 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: actually not. It's a program based around making sure the 587 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: baby is burped properly and then the burping. The win 588 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: thing is Doctor gold. I think I've fallen in love 589 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: with Doctor Gollie. What a guy because you watch his 590 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: videos and as someone who's sleep deprived and you just 591 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: want to do the right thing for your baby, you're like, 592 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: tell me everything, and he speaks with such a calm voice. 593 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: Are you sort it out for me? 594 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: Are you up to the bit where it's like by 595 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: this stage the adrenaline is running off, like. 596 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: Running It's true? Yeah, it's true. Well, I was getting 597 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: super excited because Luca's five weeks tomorrow and I was like, 598 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: by week six, you're supposed to see if they can 599 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: sleep through the night. But unfortunately, because he is on 600 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: the larger side of things, we are nowhere near him 601 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: being five key and when you say sleep through the night, 602 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: it's from about eleven o'clock till six am. Yes, but that, yeah, 603 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: that would be like insane at the moment. That just 604 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: sounds so lovely now, Sophie, we were expecting Luca to 605 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: come out looking exactly like Brandon because Amy and I 606 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: essentially birthed our husbands. Even though Amy, You're gonna argue 607 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: with me, but. 608 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: All of Dale's family said he looks like me. 609 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, is Dale. He is Dale. He was 610 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: a mini Dale. We discussed that on your birth episode. 611 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Who did Luca come out looking like? I was shocked 612 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: because I really can see me as a baby in him. 613 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: I feel like it's me as a baby, but with 614 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: my husband's eyes. It's really weird. Though I don't know 615 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: if it's just because Luca has been wearing some of 616 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: Jack's hand me downs, but I feel like they kind 617 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: of look similar, which is weird because everyone said that 618 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: Jack looks exactly like rec's a baby. I also think 619 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: that Jack looked like you as well. So it's actually 620 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: interesting thing you say that, Kate, because Luca pulls this 621 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: expression that actually reminds me of you as a baby. 622 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Something really eyebrows like this sort of. 623 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: When I was holding Luca before during the recording, I 624 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: could just see a mini brand and I've never seen 625 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: it before. It's so funny, different part of yeah. Different 626 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: And also. 627 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: See our Papa Jeff in him. There's little with his mouth. 628 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh that was so nice to see that. It's funny 629 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: because when Luca was first born, we all thought he 630 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: had really curly hair, but it was just the way 631 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: that the blood was still stuck. Well it was because yeah, 632 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: they used force, so I think he had a bit 633 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: of like red around it. It was doing something to 634 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: his hair. But yeah, I think he is a nice 635 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: mix of both of us, which I was hoping now 636 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: to wrap things up. So, because it is nearing Luca's 637 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: feed time, what type of mum do you think you'll be? Yeah, 638 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: it's funny because when you had Jackie ago, I was like, oh, 639 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: she's been so overtop with his doctor. Clie're like, I'm 640 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: not going to be doing that whatever. But as soon 641 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: as you have them, you're like, oh my god, I 642 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: want the best for them. I want them to be sleeping. 643 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: You will study anything to make sure that also you're 644 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: you're sleep So I think that if the past five 645 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: weeks or anything to go by, I'm going to be 646 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: that overprotective mum, helicopter pirlicopter mom. That's very well, I 647 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: don't want to say strict, but I just I really 648 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: think that you realize the importance of a routine and 649 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: how much children thrive off a routine. Again, I'm going 650 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: from someone who knew nothing about children to now just 651 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: obsessively looking up Doctor Gollie's content. My whole algorithm is 652 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: now mothering content, just tips, mumtalk of mum talk again, 653 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: you don't know how you take some of it with 654 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: a grain of salt because you know it's not particularly expected. 655 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: I've got a TikTok though. It just makes you feel 656 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: so seen. Particularly, I think the first couple of weeks 657 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: of parenthood are just so lonely, even though your partner's 658 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: at home. There is a real sense of responsibility when 659 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: you're the parent that feeds the baby. Is this weird 660 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: thing because you've carried them for nine months, You're like, oh, like, 661 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm used to providing them with what they need, you 662 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I think because I think 663 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: because I've been very aware that Brown is going to 664 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: be going back to work. I'm like, I need to 665 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: be okay to do this on my own. I have 666 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: one more question, Sophie. We had a lot of arguments 667 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: on the podcast about me saying just you wait. Was 668 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: I valid in saying that? Look, I still don't think 669 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: it's a helpful thing to say to people, and pregnancy 670 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: is tough and it's one of those the hardest things 671 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: you're going to do as well. But yeah, I mean again, 672 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: I have a message you being like I felt really 673 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: bad for you last year going through what you did 674 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: because we didn't really have many friends who had gone 675 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: through it before. And I think for me so saving 676 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: grace has been able to pick up the phone and 677 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: say to you guys, is this normal? Like? Is this 678 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: what should I do? And the fact that you were 679 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: able to navigate it yourself, I think that was very 680 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: amazing what you've done. Thank you. It was a nice 681 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: moment when we came over and you're like, I'm sorry, 682 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: I just didn't know, and I was like, it's just 683 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: it's completely fine, because how are you wanting to validate her? 684 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: How are you expected to know though when you haven't 685 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: gone through it. That's the thing, because I think that 686 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: if you haven't been through it, and you just don't 687 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: fully get it. 688 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: I saw there was a TikTok and it said once 689 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: you have a baby, you go on an apology to it, 690 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: and all the other mums like, sorry, I just didn't understand. 691 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: But that's what you're going. Yeah, that's so true because 692 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: even with you guys, I mean I specifically told you 693 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: please don't make me a meal because I'm weird. I 694 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: don't like eating people's food, like particularly leftovers. And I mean, 695 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: you guys might not have liked the meal I prepared 696 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: for you, but I'm like, I'm bringing them a meal. 697 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to force them to eat it. What's been 698 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: really sweet is seeing all of the mums in my 699 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: life come out of the woodwork and being like, do 700 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: you need a hand? How are you going? And that's 701 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: even when you weren't there for that. Yeah, because I 702 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: feel like a dick now, I'm like, oh god, I 703 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: didn't message them seeing how they were going. But because 704 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: they've been through it, I think that they understand just 705 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: how lonely and isolating the first few weeks can be. 706 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: And it's just difficult. It is being in the trenches 707 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: of it all, and it's this thing where for me, 708 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: when I've had friends that have had babies, I'm like, 709 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm just going to leave them alone because they're dealing 710 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: with a lot and they probably don't need me messaging them. 711 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: But it's the complete opposite after going through it, like 712 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: you want to be messaged. You want people to check 713 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: in and ask how you're going because you feel like 714 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: you're losing I feel like you're losing friendships. We feel 715 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: like you're losing your identity because you're not bad, You're 716 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: not at work doing what you enjoy doing. Like it's 717 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: been actually so nice sitting down having this conversation with 718 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: you guys on the mics. I'm dying to come back 719 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: to the podcast. Like yeah, like I might make an 720 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: earlier return. We'll see how we go. We have been 721 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: telling you to carm me engines, just try and relax, 722 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: but I mean it would be greats have your week 723 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: by yourself. I think, yeah, you might not want to 724 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: come back right away, but amy this but no. 725 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: But also I'm at a stage where Harry is sleeping 726 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: a lot longer than Lucre is at the moment, so 727 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine having to go back and record and 728 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: do all this stuff on what's three hours of sleep? 729 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: But you you need something, I think for you to 730 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: focus on. And that's why I've loved, like throughout my 731 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: motherhood journey, having the podcast because it's like it's something 732 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: for me that's like I could just go and do, 733 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: like it is your purpose outside. I have been keeping 734 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: across all of the episodes. I know when you're on 735 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: leave k, I don't think you listen to all them. 736 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't think Amy listen. I've been tuning into every 737 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: single episode because it's such a nice distraction influence. The 738 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: world is just one of those places it's nice to 739 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: go into and have a bit of a laugh. I 740 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: love that. 741 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: I messaged you the other day so that Sefron Barker 742 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: had a new video up, and you're like, this has 743 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: made my nights. 744 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: I actually have not watched the it yet because Branni 745 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: kept saying, do you want to put it on when 746 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: we do a feed. I'm like, no, I'm going to 747 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: enjoy it. I'm gonna have my dinner in flat make 748 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: it a show. Are you spewing that the weekend with 749 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: I think it was the following week after? You want 750 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: a returning leave that Tammy Hembro announced she was divorcing Matzekowski. 751 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: Yes. 752 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: Yes, Because I listened to the episode, there were so 753 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: many things I wanted to add in. I felt like 754 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed the episode, but I was like, I 755 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to have my say on it. I'm so 756 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: invested in that relate well, you know, wealthy. Now, SOPHI 757 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: gets clear that out spoken listeners maybe hearing from you 758 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later because you are raring to come back, 759 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: but for now. Thank you so much for joining us 760 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: for this episode. It was so great to have a 761 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: chat with you because I feel like with all the 762 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: distractions of you know, Harry and Jack and Luca together, 763 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: it's so chaotic and I feel like I have missed 764 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: some of parts of your story, so it was nice 765 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: to actually hear it all. It's funny because I thought 766 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: we were initially going to record it maybe the week 767 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: after I gave birth, when it was all fresh. I 768 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: feel like there's probably details I've forgotten. Not everyone needs 769 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: to know all the glory details, but it has been 770 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: fun reliving it, maybe with a bit of stays. Well. 771 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: That's why we're going to leave things because listeners may 772 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: be able to hear Luca waking up. This podcast was 773 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of 774 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: the Other Lais Planes. We pay respect to Elder's past 775 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: and present, and if you do love the show, we 776 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: would really appreciate it if you could leave us a 777 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: five star review.