1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Put on your dance and shares may give me your 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: best shot. From Momma Me is canceled podcast. It's Claire Stevens. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Oh clear, how you going. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: We're going very well and we're looking forward to hearing 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: all the goss of the Jalo Ben Affleck relationship. I 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: must say I know a lot of people were thrilled 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: when they got back together. I just see ego through 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and I don't know how I feel 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: about it. Over to you. 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: Very interesting. So this story really starts twenty years ago 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: when they started dating for the first time. In two 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: thousand and two, they were engaged and they were meant 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: to get married actually in a ceremony very similar to 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: what they had on the weekend. And then they split 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: up in two thousand and four. They got together again 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: last year, and then in mid July they had this 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: small wedding in Las Vegas and they literally lined up 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: with other couples to get their marriage license. Lopez wore 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: a dress from an old film. Affleic got changed in 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: a public toilet. It was all very low key, and 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: we thought. We talked at work about how we thought 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: this was the rise of the anti wedding, how refreshing. 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: We don't need a million people, We just need our 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: children and going to I didn't know if Las Vegas 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: is the most romantic place to get married, but you 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: know that you do. You and they We thought that 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: maybe people were just getting away from making a big fuss. 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: But that's embarrassing for us because a month later they 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: have had a three day extravaganza. Turns out that the 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Vegas one was really like an entree. This is the 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: main event, and so what they had on the weekend 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: was a rehearsal dinner on Friday, a ceremony on Saturday, 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: and a barbecue on Sunday. Plenty of guests, fancy marquees, 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: and a custom cature Ralph Lauren dress. So there was 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: a dress code for guests, with all of them wearing white. 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: But we know the best part of any wedding is 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: the gossip. So I'm just gonna tell youth what have 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: you got around There was an ambulance called because Ben 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: Affleck's mum reportedly fell off a dock at his Georgia 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: and she did cut her legs. 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: She had a few drinks. 42 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's. 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: You're falling off a dock you've had a few drinks. 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: I feel like, look, a lot of weddings have a 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: family member going. That's actually probably the most relatable thing 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: about this wedding. They were married in afflex imitation plantation home. 47 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: People feel weird. 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: About that because he's part of the slaver His dad 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: was a slaver, was his father? 50 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, he's historically his father's ancestor, his ancestors. He's 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: not a Highland, he's not old. But one of his 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: ancestors was a slave owning Georgia sheriff. And it just 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: feels a little bit distasteful. And then there were some 54 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: noticeable absences, which is the greatest gossip at a wedding. 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: So Jennifer Garner wasn't there fair enough? I know, I 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: kind of think did we expect her to be? But 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: Casey Affleck wasn't there? 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: His brother? His brother? Has there been a falling out 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: because Casey's a troubled man too, isn't he. 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: Here's a little bit. I think he said he was 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: just busy, But I don't know. I think we go 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: to each other. What about what about Matt Damon? He 63 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: was there with his thought of course he was he 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't miss it for the world. But as someone who's 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: currently planning a wedding, my god, it must be so 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: hard to not have limitations. I imagine that what allows 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: people to get through the process is that you go. Luckily, 68 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: I have this constraint, and that constraint is money. I 69 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: can't have seventeen events. 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: No, and the friends that don't get invited or people 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: acquaintances that don't get invited will understand that I've got 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: to limit numbers. Yes, yeah, it hurts feelings. It's a 73 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: wedding tons of marted numbers. 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: You're saying, hey, you got tons of money, it's not 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: going to kill you to put out another shrimp cocktail 76 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: for me. 77 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Exactly fair enough. 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: If I had met her, I would be expected to 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: I would expect to go to the wedding. But what 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: do we think of this trend of multiple weddings. Because 81 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: Courtney Kardashian just did it, George and I, Mark Clooney 82 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: did it, Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner, they have these 83 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: several events. Do you guys think you should have to 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: kind of commit and be excited about that. 85 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't even have time for wedding photographs. 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: Okay, and I got married a long time ago, but 87 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: even back then it was too much effort. 88 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: I look at the kids these days when they. 89 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: Get married, the whole palava with the wedding fighter as 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: you go, and this is just normal people. Yep, they're 91 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: not even rock stars. This is normal people getting married. 92 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: I get no time was I see. I just see 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: show off. I like the idea that they just got 94 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: He got changed in the toilet she had addressed, she 95 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: had already worn. Because you think, after all these years 96 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: of they've both had multiple relationships, they know life. Let's 97 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: cut to what matters. But then you see this and 98 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: I think it's ego again. And didn't he say something like, well, 99 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: whatever she wants, it's her day. I don't know how 100 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: much he likes all of this. He doesn't like. 101 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: It, he doesn't like it. It doesn't His facial expression 102 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: during all of these things is like, get me home. 103 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: I just don't want to do that. She had a 104 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: twenty foot train on her, like a veil that was 105 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: just really like actual train, and I just I think, 106 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: I just think we've done this a few times now, Jennifer, 107 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: maybe let's just chill out. His face looks like when 108 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: he was talking about Batman versus Slipperman. It's just like, 109 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: oh Man, darkness. 110 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: That's why they broke up the first time, wasn't it. 111 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: He felt that it was demeaning, that through through around 112 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: his life had become demeaning, and here we go again. 113 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: Look I like those kids. 114 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: I like them. 115 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: I think they've grown up a bit now. And sure 116 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: they got pots of money. I think that's fair enough. 117 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: I do think there's something romantic about there'll be a 118 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: movie about it, the fact that you were in love 119 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: and that they'll be in and it. 120 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Will be terrible. It's not Spanglish too. 121 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: I'm excited about it personally. 122 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: Claire, it's always a tree to catch up with you. 123 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: You'll catch Claire with her sister Jesse at the canceled 124 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: podcast mamamea dot com dot at You