1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: On today's show, Tammy Hembro's skin cancer scared, the Ribka 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Twins slam for launching their own clothing line, Machine, and 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Indy Clinton sparks break up rumors. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert and I feel 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: like all the listeners are my friends, so I have 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: to share this story with them. So on the weekend, 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: I was talking to my partner Race about how I've 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: got my period and he was. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Like, oh, can I ask you a question? 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, sure. 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: He goes, when it comes to pads, do you have 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: to take them off every time you go to the toilet? 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: And I was like sorry, what, Like rewind, what do 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: you mean? And he goes, well, aren't they attached to you? 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, wait a second, So where does 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: he think they're attached? Well, he's not thinking of tampons. 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: He legitimately thought that the wings on a pad stick 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: to your skin, so every time you have to go 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: to the toilet, you have to take it off and 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: then reput it on. 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: I laughed so much and. 23 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: He's like, well, ask the other boys, what do they 24 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: think to Dale. 25 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: And Brandon think it No, they knew exactly how pads 26 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: are used to be fair. 27 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: Brandon and Dale both have sisters. 28 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how about is sex education at school that 29 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: they're not showing how bad? It got me thinking, though, 30 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: what is something you only just found out that's common knowledge? 31 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: I want to put that out to our Facebook community. 32 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: So if you might be able to put your hand 33 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: up for this one, because you only just worked out 34 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: the other day that the saying is we're not reinventing 35 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the wheel you thought it was. 36 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to reinvent the egg. 37 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: I got confused. I know that it's the wheel, but I. 38 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Think it's because we've actually been integrating a lot of 39 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: eggs into our diet that I just had eggs in 40 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: my mind. 41 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: So if you literally. 42 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Said this phrase, We're having a discussion with Kate and 43 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: I and we were like, it's the weird I was 44 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: getting confused as well because it's you know, and they're like, 45 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: is it the egg or the chicken? First? Have you 46 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: guys got any wedding updates for the listeners? Well, I've 47 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: been trying to lock in my wedding invites So I've 48 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: been seeking out some inspo on TikTok and I came 49 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 1: across this funny trend where people are sending their wedding 50 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: invites to celebrities. 51 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: So it used to be that people. 52 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Would send them out to billionaires because the theory was 53 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: that their personal assistant would just. 54 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: Send a gift. 55 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I think they're trying to get either the celebrity 56 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: to come or a gift. It reminds me of when 57 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: people would go to their formal or their prom and 58 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: they'd run a sob story saying, oh, you know they 59 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: don't have a date and they love you. Well, they're 60 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: not actually sending sob stories. They're literally just posting the 61 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: invite as if they know the person. How are they 62 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: finding the address of these celebrities. They're just like the 63 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: fan mail addresses. So a lot of them are just 64 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: getting back autographed pictures and that sort of thing. But 65 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: there was one big us YouTuber who actually showed up. 66 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: To someone's wedding. 67 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Wow, I feel like that could go off on TikTok, 68 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: like that's good content for some influence, as if they 69 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: were invited. Well, apparently the queen actually ended up turning 70 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: up to someone's wedding. So this couple randomly invited her 71 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: because they found out she was going to be in 72 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Manchester the same time they were getting married, and her 73 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: office actually said no, she couldn't attend, but she ended 74 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: up showing up anyway. Wow, I'm assuming she did it 75 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: for PR Well. Which celebrity would you guys all invite? Well, 76 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: obviously Taylor Swift. I think there's without a doubt Taylor Swift. 77 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Do you think though, if you had Taylor Swift at 78 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: your wedding, my overshadow the whole day. 79 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm happy with that. 80 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably wouldn't care. 81 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Matti Healy would not be getting an invite though, No, 82 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: he would not be on the list. My wedding prep's 83 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: going well. I'm trying to get my skin prepared for 84 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: the wedding, and they do say you should sort of 85 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: start a year out from the wedding. I have started 86 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: a little bit late, but I've had two rounds of 87 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: IPL so far, and that's to try and treat some 88 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: of my freckles that I don't like, and it's so good. 89 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: The nurse today she went absolutely ham It was so painful, 90 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: but she said she's a perfectionist. And she's trying to 91 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: get every single one of them. That's exactly who you 92 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: want working on your skin. I feel like you almost 93 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: get addicted to the pain because you know you're gonna 94 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: have good results when they really go hard on the laser. 95 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Today is my first flog because I've never really filmed 96 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: anything before. This is going to be my first time 97 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: filming and showing you my life. There were a lot 98 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: of people up in arms in our Facebook community over 99 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: the weekend because Indy Clinton sparked breakup rumors, so she 100 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: was mia for social media for over a week, and 101 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: then when she returned, she posted a video about receiving 102 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: bad news. She then made a series of very cryptic 103 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: comments saying that she was staying in a hotel with 104 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: her kids now. 105 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: The comment section went off. 106 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: One follower wrote, babies everything okay, haven't posted as much 107 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: these past few days and your responses are concerning me. 108 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Hope all is well now. Indi replied, saying just dealing 109 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: with a liar, No biggie, just needed a break from 110 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: social media this week. Another user wrote, wait, the other 111 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: day you found out some stuff that pissed you off, 112 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: and now you're staying in a hotel room. Did big 113 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: Ed do something? And Indie replied, Detective, Now I must 114 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: point out before we go on, her partner's name is 115 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: actually Ben. We got a lot of angry messages when 116 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: we did our Valentine's Day segment because we were referring 117 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: to Ben as Ed, and that is because Indy has 118 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: nicknamed him big Ed after this guy from ninety Day 119 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: fiance who he weirdly looks like, Yeah, I do remember 120 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: getting that message in the morning and be like, for 121 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: fuck sake, Sovie, you've got his name wrong. I think 122 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: everyone's been living for these little titbits of information because 123 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: they're so cutting, like it's quite obvious that it's aimed 124 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: at him. It's really ironic because when we first spoke 125 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: about Indy, we discuss the fact that she looked very 126 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: put together when she gave birth to her daughter, and 127 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: you did get the opinion, Oh, maybe she's one of 128 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: those influencers who's all about appearances. But with Indy, she's 129 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: actually so relatable and down to earth, and so many 130 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: people enjoy her content because she does these daily vlogs 131 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: and she puts all of it on the line. Well, 132 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: the cryptic posts didn't stop there, Indy followed it up 133 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: with a video of her absolutely stacking it on these 134 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: rocks at the beach, and she wrote, my life right now. 135 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Many detectives have been put in the clues together and 136 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: they think that all of these posts are referencing the 137 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: fact that Ben has been away a lot for work 138 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: and that India has had to take a lot of 139 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: the load. 140 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: On in terms of the kids. 141 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does seem like a pretty reasonable explanation. However, 142 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: gossip account Dutch Mindy. 143 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: They have a theory of their own. 144 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: So a follower wrote in saying that they are on 145 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: Indy Clinton's close friends story and they said that she 146 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: wrote he was away for work and went to a 147 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: strip club and lied about it. She found photos on 148 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: his phone of inside the club, took the kids to 149 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: the start to try and max out his credit card 150 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: as payback. I just want to reiterate this is a 151 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: rumor that is unsubstantiated, so who knows if this is 152 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: true or not, but it does add an interesting element 153 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: to the story. 154 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: I think pretty good payback from her. 155 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: Well, it's quite clear he's done something wrong because on Sunday, 156 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: Indya uploaded a video of Ben walking towards her with 157 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: a big bunch of flowers in his hand, and she wrote, 158 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: when he's been in the doghouse for a week, I 159 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: finally let him out. I loved in this video because 160 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: he didn't give her any eye contact and looks so 161 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: guilty and also pissed off that he was being filmed. 162 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: But can you imagine if you're having this big fight 163 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: with your partner. It's quite private, but they're putting little 164 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: digs on their Instagram and TikTok about you, and there's 165 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: all this speculation about what's going on, and then you 166 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: literally return to say sorry and they're filming you. Well, easy, 167 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: don't do the wrong thing. Then I think what was funny? 168 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: Because a follower wrote underneath this post, I don't know 169 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: what he did, but I feel like I deserve an 170 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: apology for the stress he's put me through. After you 171 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: said you found out some stuff, and Indy replied, I'm 172 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: sorry for the stress. 173 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: I just like being dramatic and the center of attention. 174 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: Say good morning, Romeo Wing Gracie Piscopo has been forced 175 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: to deny rumors she's dating a mystery New Zealander by 176 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: the name of Daniel Klassen as we've discussed previously on 177 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: this podcast. Gracie's partner and baby daddy, Andre Rabello, is 178 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: currently standing trial accused of murdering his own mother. He 179 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: does deny those claims. Now, Gracie is yet to publicly 180 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: comment on their relationship status, but there have been rumors 181 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: that she visits Andre in prison and is bankrolling his 182 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: legal team. However, the rumor mill went into absolute overdrive 183 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: when Daniel shared a photo on his Instagram feed out 184 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: to lunch at a Greek restaurant with a girl who 185 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: looks a lot like Gracie. Now, you can't see the 186 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: woman's face in the photo taken it is from behind, 187 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: but she is sporting a Louis Vuitton bag slung over 188 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: her shoulder that is identical to Gracie's. Now, Daniel captioned 189 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: the photo another bland and boring season coming to an end, 190 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: and he ended the caption with a winking face emoji 191 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: and set his location to La La Land. 192 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: It gets even. 193 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: More interesting because he also recently shared an image of 194 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: a candlelit dinner on his close friend's story. 195 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: Now, if you have a. 196 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: Look at a photo Gracie recently shared of her lounge room, 197 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: it is literally identical. It is quite clear that he 198 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: was dining in Gracie's home, and influencer Watchdog account Dutch 199 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: Minty has made things extra interesting. They have posted a 200 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: rumor that a man has been spotted coming to Gracie's 201 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: house late at night. Again, this is unsubstantiated, but it 202 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: makes things a bit juicier. You gotta love the detective 203 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: work of people to assess the different pictures and if 204 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: the lounge room is the same. I do respect the 205 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: work that they've put in now, and it does appear 206 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: like something has changed in Gracie's life because last week 207 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: she revealed she had found her spark again and was healing, 208 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: and isn't that what everyone says. 209 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: When they're in a new relationship. 210 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: It's really difficult for her because she hasn't updated followers 211 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: on what her relationship status is with Andre, so of 212 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: course people are going to be keeping an eye out 213 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: about what's going on. I mean, she did post a 214 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: TikTok the other day saying that she couldn't believe it 215 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: was June because she's just been disassociating things well. A 216 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: spokesperson for Gracie has denied that she's in a relationship 217 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: with Daniel, but he's been pretty coy about things. So 218 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: he attended the Miss Universe WA finals and when asked 219 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: by a reporter about Gracie, he said, Gracie has a 220 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: great kid, which is of course in reference to her 221 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: four year old son Romeo. That comment really says a 222 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: lot because if you're in a relationship with someone and 223 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: you have a child, generally you only introduce them to 224 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: that person when things start to get serious. So he's 225 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: putting a lot out there by saying that. Yeah, well, 226 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: his socials have been set to private, so I think 227 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: that speaks volumes what nothing? We haven't done anything if 228 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: we saw it, no anywhere near your Facebook page. 229 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: For fuck's sake, what have you done? 230 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Look, if you don't tell me the password, I'm contacting 231 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: the site administrator of reporting you. This story is a 232 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: little too close to home. So an Adelaide nightclub called 233 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,479 Speaker 1: The Wallshed has landed itself in hot water after encouraging 234 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: nightclub goalers to take their bras off. 235 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 3: In exchange for free drinks. 236 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: Now. In the promotional post shed on Facebook, the caption said, 237 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: wearing a bra is so uncomfortable, hang it up in 238 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: the shed and let loose. That means you as well, 239 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: boys with a winkie face. Now, the photo accompanying it was. 240 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: Of a polar bear with a leather bra on and a. 241 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: Graphic saying the bigger the better. The venue also offered one, two, 242 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: or three drinks based on whether patrons wore an A, 243 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: B or C cup. Now, the bigger the bra size 244 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: is apparently the more drinks you get. I find that 245 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: offensive from someone that has smaller boobs. 246 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: That is bullshit triggered. 247 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: Well, this post did spark a lot of outrage, with 248 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: one user calling at sogynistic bullshit and another saying the 249 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: minute anything gets mentioned of free drinks and bras off 250 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: or the bigger the better, all of the feral rabbid 251 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: sex craze creeps come out lurky. Yeah, I can't say 252 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: i'd want to be going to the Woolshed when this 253 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: function was on. I mean, I haven't stepped foot in 254 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: the woolshed since our best friend's hen's party. It was 255 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: a good night, but I don't think I'll be rushing 256 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: back after seeing this. So the cost of bras, I mean, 257 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: the drinks at the woolshed aren't that expensive. I don't 258 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: know if you'd be getting do you get your bra 259 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: back at the end or some curve just being taken. 260 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: It sounded like they hung them up in some sort 261 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: of closet. It just I don't mean, I actually don't 262 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: even think they're exchanging bras. I think it's a gimmick. 263 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: But they think that this is going to attract women 264 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: to their bark. If anything, this is a big sign 265 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: that says do not go here. Yeah, gross, men will 266 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: be here. I did see iconic Adelaide account Shit Adelaide 267 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: picked up on this story and they suggested that maybe 268 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: they should do a sausage Saturday's instead, and so they 269 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: had like a little Frankfurt, you've got one drink And 270 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: then this post is just so utterly degrading to women 271 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: and the fact that they're essentially saying, come in to 272 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: our nightclub and we're going to rate you on your 273 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: appearance and tell you if you're worthy of having one, 274 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: two or three drinks, like fuck off. Yeah. Well, on 275 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Sunday night, the Woolshed issued a statement saying we sincerely 276 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: apologize for the fact that the posts made some of 277 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: our patrons feel uncomfortable and body shamed, as that was 278 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: never our intention. Based on the feedback from our community, 279 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: we have canceled the promotion and our workshopping ideas for 280 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: different promotions that promote a fun, safe and inclusive environment 281 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: for all. Moving forward, Senior Management will be reviewing all 282 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: promotional activity to ensure that it creates an inclusive environment 283 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: for all patrons. Can you imagine them workshopping and new idea. 284 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: It'd be like, oh, a wet T shirt competition. Like 285 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: it's clearly a bunch of twenty something guys who were thinking, hmm, 286 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: what would I go to a nightclub for? But they're 287 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: failing to realize that there's actually a very serious tone 288 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: to this because this makes a lot of women feel 289 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: unsafe to go into a nightclub because essentially they're saying. 290 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: We can openly leer it you, we can openly. 291 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Assess what brass size you are, but you look get 292 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: a certain perks if you have bigger boots. I don't 293 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: know if it's twenty year old guys, I could more 294 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: imagine like fifty year old guys, but this is a 295 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: great ideal. 296 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: You just have wet sir competitions. 297 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: I love that they pretend that the senior management team 298 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: had no idea about the promotion, it's like someone's given. 299 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: It the green flag. 300 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: Well, from those who aren't from Adelaide, there is a 301 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: new sort of because this is a very country esque bar. 302 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: Like I have to say my partner who is from 303 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: ballet club, but he used to love going to this bar. 304 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 3: There's like music and there's. 305 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: A ball that you can ride. It's the vibe of it. 306 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: It's very low rent vibes. And there's actually a new 307 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: nightclub called Shotgun Willies, which I think is in huge 308 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: competition to the Wallshed. 309 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: So it's not. 310 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: Surprising that either this is a gimmick to get their 311 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: name out there and to be discussed, or they literally 312 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: have no idea when it comes to marketing. 313 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: Do you know what's really disturbing? 314 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: Because then local news here covered the story and I 315 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: was reading all the comments and most people were like, oh, 316 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: it's just a bit of fun, Like why are they 317 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: doing this? 318 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: You know, where's the fun police? 319 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: Let me guess that was on Facebook with all the 320 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: boomers it was, and it was a lot of women 321 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: who had been boobs being like, oh, I would have 322 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: loved to have gone in and got my fair share 323 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: of drinks, which I was surprised by because I thought 324 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: it would be more the men who were saying, you know, 325 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: the form police again, we just need to look at 326 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: the demographic on Facebook that we're probably replying to this. 327 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be reflective of what most 328 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: people think of. Some people are asking what is a 329 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: beach flag? We've all definitely heard of red flags or 330 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: ix on TikTok, but the past couple of weeks there's 331 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: a new one. It is called the beige flag. So 332 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: it is a relatively new term, and it describes an 333 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: odd habit or behaviour that your partner does. So is 334 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: not necessarily something that's good or bad, but it does 335 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: make you pause for. 336 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: A minute and think, God, my partner is weird. 337 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: So this hashtag currently has over two hundred and eighty 338 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: five million views, and people have been sharing anything from 339 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: their partner's superstitious habits to the weird ways that they 340 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: comfort their partner when they're sad, and a lot of 341 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: these flags have been sparking debate, with users claiming that 342 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: they're more so red flags. I do wonder if listeners 343 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: can relate to this page flag that went viral. So 344 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: our user wrote that her boyfriend's beige flag is that 345 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: he's so unbothered he never asked for details. So she 346 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: explained his best friend broke up with his girlfriend, why 347 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: he didn't ask his sister got a new job where 348 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't know. I think that this is so accurate 349 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: for a lot of men, because I don't think they 350 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: do ask a lot of follow up questions if they're 351 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: not interested in it. 352 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: This is literally Dale. 353 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: So many times I'll be like, what's the gossip? 354 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: What happened is that? 355 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't I didn't even think to ask that. 356 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: It's like when they get told of a family event 357 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: and or event with their friends and you're like, oh, 358 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: so where is it? 359 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: What time is it? 360 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: You don't get the details to the day of you 361 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: rock up with the wrong dress code on. 362 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: I feel like girls are. 363 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: The opposite because I'll come home from a dinner with 364 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: our friends and I'll be telling rees all this information 365 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: that he has no interest in whatsoever, Like he's not 366 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: asking any questions. 367 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: I'm just divulging this. 368 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: Do you guys have any beage flags with your partners. 369 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of beige flags that 370 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: Brandon has, but one that springs to mind is him 371 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: having bubble baths. I never knew that men had bubble 372 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: bus No shame there. But sometimes I'll open the bathroom 373 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: he will be reclined in the bath with some relaxing 374 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: music on, all about self care. I don't know if 375 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: this is a beige flag or an ick, but Dale 376 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: used to leave his floss. 377 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: He'd drape it over the tap. 378 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a nika and a red flag. Would this 379 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: be a beige flag? So usually if I take the 380 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: washing in, I'll put my clothes away and then also 381 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Reese's clothes away, Whereas when he brings the washing in, 382 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: he'll only put his clothes away and just like chuck 383 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: mine on a pile. 384 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: Dale does that too. 385 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: I'll just come in there just be all these clothes 386 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: on my bed. I'm like, I'm glad I folded you all. 387 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: And then he'd be like, oh, I just don't know 388 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: where yours go, but for some reason I know where 389 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: his go. I am so so so lucky that I 390 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: went and got my skin checked. 391 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: Please get regular skin checks. It can honestly be life saving. 392 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: Tammy Hambro has urged her followers to take sun safety seriously. 393 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: After a routine skin check turned sinister. The Finnis influencer 394 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: was forced to get a chunk of her leg cut 395 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: out after a suspicious freckle turned out to beat melanoma. Okay, 396 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: can you tell us more? Was pretty scary because Tammy 397 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: had canceled her skin check three times before going to 398 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: the recent appointment because she was just too busy. And 399 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: as you said, it was a routine skin check and 400 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: she'd had one a year earlier. So her doctor ended 401 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: up doing a biopsy on a freckle that Tammy said 402 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: did not look suspicious to her at all. In fact, 403 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: she said it looked like the other freckles that she has, 404 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: except this one was by itself, and scarily, it turned 405 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: out to be melanoma. I do want to point out 406 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: to listeners, though, that this freckle just randomly popped up 407 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: on her leg, and that is a sign of melanoma. 408 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: So it is good that even though she might have 409 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: put off the skin check, that she actually went and 410 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: got it looked at Yeah, exactly right. Well, Tammy had 411 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: to return to her doctor a week later, where she 412 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: said he took a big chunk out of her leg 413 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: and she needed thirty stitches to stitch it all back together. 414 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: The sample was then sent off for further testing to 415 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: ensure they got everything they needed to. She now has 416 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: to go back every three months for a skin check 417 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: to make sure that the melanoma does not come back. 418 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: I think the fact that Tammy is openly speaking about 419 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: this will help a lot of people because she does 420 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: live that quintessential perfect Australian beach life. 421 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: She is always at the. 422 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: Beach and she did say that during her Instagram story, 423 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: and she said that while she knew the dangers of melanoma, 424 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: she was. 425 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: One of those people that just thought, Oh, this will 426 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: never happen to me. 427 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: I do really applaud Tammy for talking about this, because 428 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: she was really honest about the fact that she never 429 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: really wore sunscreen. She did spend a lot of time 430 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: in the sun, and she said she feels. 431 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: Really stupid about it. 432 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: And I think there would be so many people that 433 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: are like Tammy and think that this is never going 434 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: to happen to them. But this is the reality of 435 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: being in the sun. And I think that this will 436 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: scare a lot of people into getting a skin check. 437 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure countless people have got a skin check off 438 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: the back of his story I also like the fact 439 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: that she chose to share about it after she had 440 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: the procedure done. She didn't try and scare her audience 441 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: and try and clickbait them that something terrible happening in 442 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: her life purely to get views. She just did it 443 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: to educate others, and that's how it came across. I 444 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: do like the fact that she shared it across multiple 445 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: social media platforms as well. So she did the update 446 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: on Instagram, but she did a video on TikTok where 447 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been asking her like, what 448 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: did the freckle? Like, what does your leg look like? 449 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: So she actually showed them the chunk of leg that 450 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: was missing in the wound. And I think that is 451 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: really powerful for people to see. It's very timely because 452 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have been watching the 453 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: new series of the Kardashians, but Chloe Kardashian, she just 454 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: had a melanoma cut out of her face. 455 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: Did see that? 456 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? And they've been detailing the process because they had 457 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: to take a lot out. 458 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: More than she thought. 459 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I thought it was very brave considering, 460 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: you know, how much she cares about her appearance to 461 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: share that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's very powerful, and 462 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: I really did like the fact that Tammy was urging 463 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: all her followers to get a skin check. She said 464 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: everyone in her Saskia office has gone and got a 465 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: skin check because of her. So here's your reminder everyone, Yes, 466 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: exactly right, Ze maguire, you are an out maybe I'm 467 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: an alpha reputer. 468 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: Please you're an outfit remembrance. 469 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: Sam and Teague and Ribke have earned themselves the title 470 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: of Perth's most famous social media duo. With fourteen million 471 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: followers on TikTok and one million across their joint Instagram accounts, 472 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: the twins have built up a formidable brand, but this 473 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: week the twins disappointed their army of followers, launching their 474 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: own clothing line with controversial Chinese fast fashion brand Sheen. Now. 475 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: So, despite their. 476 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: Large following, I haven't really come across the Ribka Twins before. 477 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm interested to know if any of our listeners 478 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: have followed their journey because being a triplet, I usually 479 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: know who other multiple berths are, but I haven't seen 480 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: their content before. But some people may recognize them because 481 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: they did appear on Australia's Got Talent ten years ago 482 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: when they were seventeen, and this year they are going 483 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: to appear on America's Got Talent. So they were these 484 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: acrobat twins, these little performers, and when they were on 485 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: the show, one of the producers said to them, you 486 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: guys should have a social media account. And this was 487 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: when I suppose social media was just taking off. And 488 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're pretty glad that they followed this advice because, 489 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: as you said, Amy, they've got fourteen million followers on TikTok. 490 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: They also have seven million on YouTube, and I think 491 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: a lot of their following is predominantly made up of 492 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: people in the US. And to point out just what 493 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: a big deal these women are, they recently attended an 494 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: event in Dubai where they appeared alongside Kendall Jennet and 495 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: also Liam Payne. Now, late last week, The Daily Telegraph 496 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: wrote up a feature on the twins and how their 497 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: careers have exploded. And it was very clear in this 498 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: article that the women really wanted readers to understand just 499 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: how hard a job of a social media influencer is. 500 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: So Teagan said, people always underestimate the workload. Though we're perfectionists. 501 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: So fifteen second TikTok takes an hour to film. She continues, saying, 502 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: not everyone can post a video a monetize it. You 503 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: have to build up a following. Now, with their careers 504 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: taking off at the moment, a lot of people are 505 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: questioning why would they decide to align their brands with 506 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: a fast fashion brand like Sheen and The first hint 507 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: that Sam and Taguan were working Machine happened at Australian 508 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: Fashion Week, So on Instagram they wrote, at Australian Fashion Week, 509 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: dressed head to toe Machine, keep your eyes peeled as 510 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: we're announcing something super exciting. 511 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: In the next couple of weeks. 512 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: God, it was clear that there was a partnership, because 513 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: who the hell would rock up to Australian Fashion Week 514 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: wearing Machine and then also promote the fact that it's 515 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: a faux pa because generally, if you go to a 516 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: show at Australian Fashion Week, you were supposed to wear 517 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: one of the local designers and this is definitely not 518 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: a local designer. Now recently they did hold an event 519 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: to promote this new collaboration Machine and the guest list 520 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: was made up of absolutely nobody's no offense to the 521 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: people that attended and there didn't appear to be any 522 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: big names there, which I'm pretty sure is a result 523 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: of them partnering Machine, like no one wants their name 524 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: associated Machine. I've probably like, fuck this, we are not 525 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: risking our reputation to go. 526 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: Along to this. 527 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: Definitely, I'm sure the PR person had an absolute nightmare 528 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: trying to get anyone to attend this event, and it 529 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: was probably the tackiest influencer event I have seen in 530 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: a while. So the twins were dressed in matching pink 531 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: body con dresses, and as a triplet, that is my 532 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: number one pet peeve. I hate when twins or triplets 533 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: or quads are dressed in the same thing, and that 534 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: is because growing up, our mum refused to have us 535 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: in the same outfits, because you don't get any sense 536 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: of individuality or your own identity when you're dressing the 537 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: same like this. 538 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: It seems to be that. 539 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: They dress up on their social media the same quite 540 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: a lot. It does give me the ick as a 541 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: multiple birth because, as you said, like our mum was 542 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: so intent on notus having our own identities. I know 543 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: we do a podcast together, but I hate being called 544 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: the Torba triplets or the pop I hate it, but 545 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure behind closed doors they're not wearing the same thing. 546 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: It's clearly to gain attention on social media, and in 547 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: this instance, it's to gain attention for Sheen. Oh yeah, 548 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: it's definitely a marketing tactic. But I mean this event, 549 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: it was so trash. They had just a couple of cocktails. 550 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: There was this fashion parade and you could tell that 551 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: the event was. 552 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: Very much on a budget. 553 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: And the clothes. I feel like I can bad mouth 554 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: these clothes because Sheen is an absolute abhorrent fast fashion brand. 555 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: These clothes look so cheap. They had this metallicky, bright 556 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: colored body con dresses and very chunky high heels. I 557 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: thought all the young people wearing white sneakers to class. 558 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: You know, this collection's ending up in land Feel pretty 559 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: soon now. Sheen has been shunned by influencers since last 560 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: year after a UK documentary came out called Inside the 561 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: Sheen Machine. We did speak about it on the podcast 562 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: last year. For those who haven't seen the documentary, it 563 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: exposed the horrendous working conditions in two of Sheen's since 564 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: close factories. It included workers being paid just six cents 565 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: per item and that they were asked to produce up 566 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: to five hundred items in their eighteen hour working day, 567 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: horrendous conditions. It's pretty clear that the Daily Telegraph had 568 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: an ulterior motive when interviewing the twins. They didn't care 569 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: about their careers and how hard they work as influencers. 570 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: They wanted to slam them about Sheen. So the Daily 571 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: Telegraph journalists asked the women about their followers reaction to 572 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: the collaborate and he can claim that they haven't had 573 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: too many comments raising concern about their alignment with Sheine. 574 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 1: She said, if there was heaps of them, we'd address it, 575 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: but it's just the odd one or two. Sam added 576 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: that Sheen are working towards minimizing their impact on the 577 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: environment and then reference Sheen's commitment to reduce a quarter 578 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: of emissions across the global emission by twenty thirty. And 579 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: she also said certain brands get targeted more than others, 580 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: but they're pretty much all the same. Oh well, so 581 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: they're pretty much all shit, So it makes it okay. 582 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're happy to take a pay packet from 583 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: this company, doesn't matter about the effect it has on 584 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: the environment or their workers. I kind of can see 585 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: in a sense though where they're coming from in terms 586 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: of there are so many fast fashioned brands out there 587 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: that influencers are aligning themselves with. They may not be 588 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: as bad as Sheene, but they're all pretty bad. 589 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally get that. 590 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: But even from their own personal branding perspective, I would 591 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: say that Sheen is the most frowned upon. So for them, 592 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: it's a really bad career move. And despite the fact 593 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: that they claim that they haven't had many people having 594 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: concerns about collaboration, when I looked at their Instagram and 595 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: TikTok comments, I could see. 596 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: A number of outraged people. 597 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: Presumably they hadn't yet deleted those comments yet, so one said, 598 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: please do your research on Sheen. They're not only destroying 599 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: the planet, but also the lives of people working for them. 600 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: It's not a company you want to be associated with. 601 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: Another said Sheen is cheap, bad for the environment, and 602 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: uses child labor. Not a good brand to promote. The 603 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: Twins did decide to hide this comment, which said we 604 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: love promoting the leading clothing store whose clothes are made 605 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: by slaves. 606 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: Oh, I just don't get it. 607 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: With all the millions of followers, surely there is a 608 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: better way that they can make cash that's not going 609 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: to affect their personal brands this badly. The only one 610 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: who wins out of this is Sheen, because clearly they 611 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: are desperate to align themselves with influencers who have a 612 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: large gen Z or alpha following, which clearly the women have, 613 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: and they are trying to latch onto anyone with prominence 614 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, it's okay, these girls were it, 615 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: so you know, we'll change the status COO, it's okay 616 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: to buy cheap products of Sheen. And the worrying thing 617 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: is that now we're having this cost of living crisis 618 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: and people aren't able to afford sustainable items. I think 619 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: we are going to see a lot of people slipping 620 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: back into buying very cheap Sheen produce for people already do. 621 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: But I think people asked taking a step back from 622 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: making a big song and dance about it. We did 623 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: see a lot of Sheen holes on TikTok, but then 624 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: they became frowned upon. It's so clear that Sheen are 625 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: paying these two women a truckload of money, but I 626 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: think in the long term it is only going to 627 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: damage their brand and stop them from working with sustainable brands. 628 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: That are going to be around for a long time, 629 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: and for a lot of influencers, it is about who 630 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: you decide to turn down. That's what impacts your career. 631 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that Molly May works with another 632 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: fast fashioned brand, but we did see her talk last 633 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: year about how she turned down a two million pound 634 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: deal with another brand that she did in the line 635 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: where she didn't wear it, and in doing so it 636 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: paid off because she took on an even bigger deal 637 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: with PLT, which is a brand that she really loved, 638 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: and Jenuine or yeah, the fast fashion company that Peter 639 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: even more money. The thing is, should we be holding 640 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: the women to account all the companies? It's really the 641 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: chicken or the egg at the moment. Well, it is 642 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: a very tempting proposition if someone says, Okay, we've got 643 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: two million dollars for you here, this will change your life. 644 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: But I think that the women both have such large audiences, 645 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: they have the ability to attract better deals that will 646 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: help them in the long term. They definitely don't need 647 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: to be doing this. Now, that's all we've got time 648 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: for today. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Outspoken. 649 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on the Traditional Land of the 650 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to 651 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: elders past and present, and if you want to hear 652 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: more content from us, we are dropping our third and 653 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: final installment of the mitch Awful Deep Dive series tomorrow 654 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: on Outspoken Plus. If you'd like to become an Outspoken 655 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: Plus subscriber, all the details are in our show notes