1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Already and this this is the Daily This is the 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Daily OS. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Oh now it makes sense. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Tuesday, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 3: the sixteenth of September. I'm Emma Gillespie. 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm Lucy Tassel. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: The Government has released its first assessment of the risks 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: posed by climate. 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Change across Australia. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: The report paints a concerning picture, with predictions about what 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: the future could look like if rising temperatures are not curbed, 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: including a four hundred and fifty percent increase in heat 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: related deaths in some parts of the country. Overall, the 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: risk assessment warns that no Australian community will be immune. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: But the government says it has a plan. 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: Today we are breaking down what this assessment found, what 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: these findings mean for Australia's future, and how experts say 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: we need to move forward in what is shaping up 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: to be a very big climate week for the government 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: with its twenty thirty five emissions reduction target expected by Friday. 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: So, Emma, this is the first time we've received a 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: report like this. For those listening who might not understand, 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: perhaps for your co host in the studio who might 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: not know what is this National Climate Risk Assessment. 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: Yes, so this is a publication a report from the 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: Australian Climate Service. Now that is a government partnership of 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: multi agencies including the Bureau of Meteorology, the csir ROW, 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: the Australian Bureau of Statistics and Geoscience Australia. So those 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: expert groups have come together to assess how climate change 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: will impact eight key systems across our society. So this 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: includes our communities, defense, the economy, health, infrastructure, the national environment, 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: primary industries, and First Nations groups. So the risk assessment, 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Lucy, is the first time we've had 34 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: something like this, a nationally consistent, evidence based evaluation of 35 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: climate risks across all these different areas. So basically it's 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: the most comprehensive analysis of climate risks to date. But 37 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: what is interesting about it is that it looks at 38 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: climate impacts really broadly in terms of how they will 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: affect not just the environment, but health systems, infrastructure, the economy, 40 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: all of those systems at once. 41 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: So what are the key findings so we should know 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: about So I. 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: Do have to warn you that most of the findings 44 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: are pretty dark. 45 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: It is a pretty grim assessment. 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: So I want that to be what we're holding on 47 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: to going in, but also knowing that there is a plan, 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: a strategy, and a framework we're going to get to. Okay, 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: But the risk assessment models outcomes under three warming scenarios 50 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 3: to assess what will happen at different stages, So there's 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: kind of a forecast of how bad will things be 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: at one point five degrees of warming, two degrees and 53 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: three degrees of warming above pre industrial levels. Now, based 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: on current global projections, the world is on track to 55 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: see two point nine degrees of warming this century, So 56 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: the worst case scenario in this report is not that 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: far out of the realm of possibility. 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: And that's a lot more than what we've talked about 59 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: on this podcast before in terms of the Paris Agreement 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: seeking to limit emissions to reduce warming to less than 61 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: one point five degrees ex industrial level. So two point 62 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: nine is almost. 63 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: Double that exactly, and Australia has already reached one point 64 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: five degrees. The headline finding is that climate risks to 65 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: Australia are escalating rapidly and will worsen significantly by twenty 66 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: fifty without action. 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: Okay. 68 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: What is particularly concerning is that these risks don't exist 69 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: in isolation. They quote compound and cascade across different systems. 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: So an example of this is a major flood right 71 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: doesn't just damage housing and infrastructure. It disrupts supply chains, 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: affects mental health, it impacts agriculture, It can overwhelm emergency services, 73 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: It can cost the government in disaster relief funding. There 74 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: are insurance implications. So this assessment is really looking at 75 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: that bigger picture, and it found that many of Australia's 76 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: climate hazards will become more intense and occurrent areas that 77 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: haven't experienced them before. So we're looking at more frequent 78 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: heat waves, bushfires, flooding, coastal hazards from rising sea levels 79 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: more intensely in more places, more frequently. 80 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: What are some of the places that are most at risk? 81 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: So the assessment identifies several key areas of particular concern. 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: The first is Northern Australia, so this includes the Northern 83 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: Territory and parts of Queensland and Wa. We know these 84 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: regions are exposed to multiple climate hazards including heat waves, flooding, 85 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: tropical cyclones, bushfires, often simultaneously. So the forecast is that 86 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: that gets worse in that part of the country. Coastal 87 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: communities ride across Australia as well, though, face heightened risks 88 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 3: from rising sea levels. According to the Risk Assessment So 89 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: it found that by twenty fifty, the number of coastal 90 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: communities in high and very high risk areas will more 91 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: than double from eight to eighteen percent, and if current 92 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: populations remained the same, this would mean one and a 93 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: half million people living in areas experiencing rising sea levels 94 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: and coastal flooding risks by twenty to fifty. 95 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: And I mean when you say coastal communities, I think 96 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: of population maps I've seen of Australia, which shows that 97 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: pretty much everywhere in Australia is a coastal community, even 98 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: if it might not feel like it. If you're in, 99 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: for example, where I am, you know, further into the west, 100 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm not like on the sea, but I'm still in 101 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: what could be classified as a coastal community. 102 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: You live in a major city on the eastern seaboard, Yeah, exactly. 103 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: As you've mentioned, most Australians do live in quote unquote 104 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: coast communities. Remote communities as well, though, according to this report, 105 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: are particularly vulnerable. They often depend on single supply chains, 106 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: so there's limited infrastructure and access issues when something goes wrong. 107 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 3: These communities have fewer alternatives and that also is set 108 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: to worsen with worsening climate outcomes. 109 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've touched a little bit on the cities. The 110 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: place is where most Australians tend to live. But what 111 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: more can you tell me about the projected impacts on 112 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: the cities? 113 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: Yes, so specifically in outer urban areas of cities. The 114 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: report notes that these places are watch points because they're 115 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: particularly susceptible to adverse impacts due to their location, demographics 116 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: and exposure to hazards. Coastal cities, as we've touched on, 117 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: face significant challenges from rising sea levels, and urban centers 118 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: are increasingly at risk from extreme heat events, which the 119 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: risk assessment noted strain energy systems and impact public health services. 120 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: The projects heat wave deaths will increase really significantly. This 121 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: is a major headline out of this report. 122 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 123 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: For example, in Sydney and Darwin, current warming scenarios could 124 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: lead to a predicted four hundred percent surge. 125 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: In heat wave deaths. 126 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Wow. 127 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: Even under the lower one point five degrees of warming scenario, 128 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: where we are at heat wave mortality would still double. 129 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: Health broadly is one of the systems facing the most 130 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: severe risk escalations, So current health risks are listed as 131 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: moderate to high, but they are expected to reach severe 132 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: levels by twenty fifty. Interestingly, diseases like Dangi fever, Japanese 133 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: and cavalitis these are also likely to spread as temperatures 134 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 3: and rainfall patterns change. So the report notes that healthcare 135 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: systems are less experienced in managing these kinds of diseases. 136 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: And then there's a whole other conversation about preparedness. 137 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: So one of the things that could change for Australia 138 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: if more and more people are getting in different and 139 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: new ways, is that the economy can be affected because 140 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: if people aren't able to work or it's very difficult 141 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: to do certain jobs because of the weather, that has 142 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: like long term flow on effects. Exactly What else did 143 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: it say about the economy, So. 144 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: The report discussed insurance losses from natural disasters. We know 145 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: that these have surged in recent years, but they're predicted 146 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: to continue increasing. You know, with that comes increased premiums, 147 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: communities getting priced out of insurance policies and as a result, 148 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: government emergency disaster spending will also search to support impacted communities. 149 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: Looking ahead, projected disaster costs across all states and territories 150 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: could total more than forty billion dollars per year by 151 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: twenty fifty. That's under the most moderate emissions scenario. So 152 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: that is a figure that includes both financial and social costs. 153 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: And this stood out to me is really interesting. The 154 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: report estimates that Australian property values could face losses of 155 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: more than six hundred billion dollars by twenty fifty. So 156 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: that's the kind of housing impact of the cost of 157 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: coastal erosion, flooding, rising sea levels. You know, you don't 158 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: often hear the property market discussed in such grand losses. 159 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: We usually are talking in the complete reverse terms. The 160 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: report also noted that increased and more intense heat waves 161 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: will strain energy systems at the exact time when people 162 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: are going to need them the most, and you know 163 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: this could see power prices surge even further. 164 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: We've now touched on people quite a bit. What about 165 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: our natural environment? How are our ecosystems expected to cope 166 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: with all of these changes? 167 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is honestly one of the most concerning areas. 168 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: The natural environment as we already know, as we've discussed 169 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: at length here before, you know, faces really high risk 170 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 3: from climate change, and this is expected to escalate to 171 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: severe levels. 172 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: By twenty fifty. 173 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: So by that point, between forty and seventy percent of 174 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: native plants species will be exposed to climatic conditions that 175 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: they don't currently experience, So then those plants will be 176 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: facing potential extinction events. Our coral reefs face an almost 177 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: certain risk of catastrophic consequences. You know, even at current 178 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: levels of warming, ocean pH is projected to change significantly, 179 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: making it so much harder for corals and shell making 180 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: organisms to survive. And the report warns of potential ecosystem 181 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 3: collapse in many, many years. With this sort of cascading 182 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: effect on the services these ecosystems provide so clean water, 183 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: coastal protection, carbon storage. 184 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: I could go on. 185 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: Just from my quick look at the report, I know 186 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: it also examines risks to First Nations communities specifically, what 187 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: can you tell me about that? 188 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: So, the risk assessment identified seven nationally significant climate risks 189 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: specifically affecting Aboriginal and Torrestrate islander peoples. These include physical 190 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: impacts as well as threats to connection to country threats, 191 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: to connection to cultural practices which can have significant social 192 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 3: and emotional impacts as well. For torrist Rate Islander communities, 193 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: the assessment looked at rising sea levels, which pose direct 194 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: threats to homes and cultural sites. So, you know, the 195 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: ongoing theme of this assessment is what looks like maybe 196 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: one risk is you know, really representative of an entire 197 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: suite of threats. 198 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so governments don't tend to release documents this bleak 199 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: without also having some kind of accompanying action. What has 200 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: the government said they're going to do about all of this? 201 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're absolutely right. 202 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: Alongside this risk assessment, we have a National Adaptation Plan. 203 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: This is basically looking at, okay, how can we adapt 204 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: policies to move or grow with climate change, to get 205 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: ahead of climate change. 206 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: So you know, it's not all bleak. 207 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: There are some kind of scaling up of climate change approaches, 208 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: emissions reductions efforts that would mitigate a lot of these risks, 209 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: or at least reduce them or improve our resilience, you know, 210 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: lessening the impact of climate disaster. So this policy framework 211 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: notes some initiatives that are already underway. This includes Australia's 212 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: first national Health and Climate strategy, and something called the 213 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: Torres Strait and Northern Peninsula Area Climate Resilience Center, which 214 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: is being established to support communities facing immediate climate impacts. 215 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: Exactly how the government will respond to this risk assessment 216 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: remains to be seen. This plan kind of emphasizes that 217 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: climate response is a dynamic and moving kind of living, 218 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: breathing thing. It's not a static, one fix, one page solution. 219 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: The government's really talking about bigger picture ideas, working with states, 220 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: territories and local governments to create an action agenda for 221 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: this plan, which it's promising by the end of next year. 222 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: So you know it might sound depressing, but it is 223 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: just the beginning. Really, this is a stepping stone. We 224 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: have this risk assessment and now we need to continue 225 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 3: monitoring and updating how we understand conditions changing and as 226 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: we learn more about climate and its impacts and how 227 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: they unfold, policy makers will respond appropriately according to what 228 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: this plan says. 229 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: How have those policy makers responded so far so. 230 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: Minister for Climate Change and Energy Chris Bowen called the 231 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: Risk Assessment and Adaptation Plan a quote roadmap to address 232 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: the unavoidable impacts of climate change to build a more 233 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: resilient country for all communities, regions and industries. Greens leader 234 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: Senator Larissa Waters said, quote the revelations about Australia's future 235 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: under climate change detailed in this report are chilling. The 236 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: Climate Council, which is an independent not for profit, the 237 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: Greens and independent Zali Steggle have all separately responded to 238 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: the findings, criticizing the government's approvals of recent coal, oil 239 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: and gas projects, which they separately say are holding Australia 240 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: back from emissions reduction targets. And Waters said quote, this 241 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: report must be a wake up call for labor ahead 242 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: of their twenty thirty five climate target. 243 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: Decision, which is due this week right. 244 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: Exactly so really quick. 245 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: Refresher countries signed up to the Paris Agreement that includes 246 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: Australia are set to announce their emissions targets for twenty 247 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: thirty five ahead of this year's COP thirty climate conference 248 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: in Brazil. So Australia, as part of that group, is 249 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: actually expected to announce its target later this week. Thursday 250 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: or Friday are the days that we are hearing rumored 251 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: for the big announcement. 252 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: The government so far. 253 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: Hasn't made any firm commitments to put the target into law. 254 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: It's been awaiting analysis for a sixty five to seventy 255 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: five percent emissions reduction target from the Climate Change Authority 256 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: to inform its decision. Now the Climate Council separately is 257 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: urging the government to legislate the strongest possible twenty thirty 258 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: five climate target, and it called the risk assessment this 259 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: week a horror story. But Lucy, this this is not 260 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: the last you are going to hear about all of 261 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: this over the coming days, I can promise you that, 262 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: So brace yourself for several other reports, including on net zero. 263 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: There's a report coming on how to reduce pollution across 264 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: the economy and critically the twenty thirty five target alongside 265 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: the Climate Change Authorities advice. 266 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for explaining all of that to us. 267 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: Emma, thank you for having me strap in. It's going 268 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: to be a big one. 269 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: It's going to be a big one, and we will 270 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: be keeping all of you updated over on the TDA 271 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: feed and probably back in this podcast feed again. We'll 272 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: be back this afternoon with the headlines. Until then, have 273 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: a great day. My name is Lily Maddon and I'm 274 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: a proud Arunda Bungelung Kalkuttin woman from Gadigl country. The 275 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: Daily oz acknowledges that this podcast is recorded on the 276 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: lands of the Gadighl people and pays respect to all 277 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Aboriginal and Torres Strait island and nations. We pay our 278 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: respects to the first peoples of these countries, both past 279 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: and present.