1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lolaberry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. Hello, 5 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the first episode of twenty twenty one. We 6 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: are bringing it in with Yog's extraordinary Duncan Pavironan, who 7 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: is the creator of ho Yoga, which stands for Hardevignasa. 8 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: It's where I did my teacher training, oh my goodness 9 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago now, and it's the 10 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: online Yog's kind of like platform that I use, so 11 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: you can do like yoga classes, pilats intenso it's awesome anyway, 12 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: He's a great way to bring in the new year, 13 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: because if anything like me, I haven't totally clicked into 14 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: being healthy yet. I am still definitely eating a few 15 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: tredo's and not doing my daily yoga practice, which I 16 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: really need to get back on track. So I'm hoping 17 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: this episode inspires me to get back on track. I 18 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: hope it inspires you if you've fallen off track, which 19 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: is totally fine and normal by the way, and I 20 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: just want to let you know I've got something exciting 21 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: launching this Friday. We're going to be doing a Byron 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: check in, which is kind of like a short twenty 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: minute diary entry with me. But you can also DM 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: me during the week if you want me to cover anything, 25 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: so please feel free to send me any questions you'd 26 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: like answered. In the Friday check in. It'll just be 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: a little life update from Byron Bay with me, but 28 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: I can cover whatever topic you want, so yeah, I 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: can't wait for that. Enjoy Duncan. He is unreal. He 30 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: is a breath of fresh air. He's Canadian too, so 31 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: he's had this amazing childhood growing up in nature and 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: going on Canee adventures. I really hope you enjoy this chat. 33 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: We recorded it in Melbourne right before I moved to 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: Byron Bay. In a week or two later, he moved 35 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: to Byron Bay, so this was recorded about a month 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: ago in Melbourne, even though we both now live in 37 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: Byron Bay. Big love, Duncan. I'm so pumped to have 38 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: you here. I'm a huge fan. You know this already though, 39 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: if people listening, anybody, if you're a Victorian and you 40 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: do not know about hov yogurt. Then you're living under 41 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: a rock because I think you're phenomenal yogi everything, but 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: also just ray of sunshine. So I'm pumped for this podcast. Welcome, 43 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: thank you so much. 44 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: So I love that introduction. 45 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: I'm feeling super overwhelmed, and my ego is through the roof. 46 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: I did my intenso class of yours this morning, and 47 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: you wearing your American apparel bright Ferro sing. Now I'm 48 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: miss American apparel too. 49 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, I love for those of you who are listening. 50 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: American apparely used to have these like cotton jersey like 51 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: super stretchy neon colored tank tops, and they're just super vibrant, 52 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: super fun to wear, like they're brighten everyone's attitude when 53 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: they see. 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: You wearing it. Yeah, and they don't make them anymore. 55 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: I know. Okay, I'm completely digressing. Okay, I asked you 56 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: right forward, pest record, help me with your beautiful last name, 57 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: because I've practiced it like five times. Matt's got a version. 58 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: It's different to mine, so go for it. 59 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: That's okay. So it's got lots of vowels. It's parv 60 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: iron in. 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Oh, I like duncan parv ivan. 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: Pro nin ParvE Iro nin. Yes, So if you break 63 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: it down, it's par. 64 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: V I nin. 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: I like, yeah, okay, I want to start at the start, 66 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: so I am going to start childhood kind of stuff. 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: So I was wrapped to learn that your parents were 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: quite hippie. Yes, so we're talking like grew up off 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: the greed a little bit and Native American folklore. 70 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: And stuff like that. 71 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, what was it like? So I imagine like, 72 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: as an adult looking back, you're like, that's cool. But 73 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: as a kid, were you like, hang on, I want 74 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: to eat all the lollies and do all the party 75 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: things that all the other kids are doing that are 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: my age or were you like now I'm about. 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: This a bit of both. 78 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 79 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: We had like our own little like forest, our own 81 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: little house in this forest. We're kind of like, I 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: got us a bit in our own little world, which 83 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: was really really beautiful. Our house was off the grid. 84 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: It was powered by solar panels and a windmill. We 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: had our own well TVs did. We had Native American 86 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: TP's in the front line, which my parents bought from 87 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: a reserve. My uncle's Native American, And yeah, we did 88 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: like family healing ceremonies and the tepee, which was like, 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: you know, there are some parts of my childhood where 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, this is like, this is normal, 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: everyone must do this, And then there were definitely moments 92 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: where I was like, oh, my gosh, this is not normal. 93 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: My parents are crazy. Why am I up at? What 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: one am with a shaman? Like in like the middle 95 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: of fall, it's freezing, We're surrounding a fire and like 96 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: crying together. 97 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: This is so weird, but how cool now that like 98 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: looking at your trajectory and looking back, it kind of 99 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: makes sense. It was like part of the fabric that 100 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: made you don't know who you are today. 101 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, lookin like looking back, I'm very grateful for everything 102 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 3: we experienced together as a family, even though you know, 103 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: it was tough sometimes and it was a bit weird, 104 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: but it was also filled with love and did compassion 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 3: and kind of going against the green, which you know, 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: I'm really grateful for my parents teaching me that you 107 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: can go against the green, and you can you can 108 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: do things a little bit different than the rest of society, 109 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: and it might feel challenging at times, you know, like 110 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: living off the grid, it was not always easy, but 111 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: there can still be value in the things that are challenging. 112 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: Totally. I didn't so I knew a little bit about this, 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: about this part of you because I did your teacher 114 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: training last year. Yeah, which was equal parts amazing and brutal, 115 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: and I mean that in the most wonderful way. But 116 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: at the start of each class, ninety minute practice everybody, 117 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: maybe even two hours two and a half times. 118 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: It was two and a half hours. 119 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just kept going and you look at the 120 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: person practicing dext to you and be like, he's still going, 121 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: this is still happening. We're still like and you'd be sweating, 122 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: you'd get changed after the class anyway. Amazing, But you 123 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: do this darma talk at the start of the class, 124 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: and you also do it in the start of your 125 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: online of yoga stuff. I'm gonna have links to ho 126 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: Yoga in the show notes, so if you're wondering what 127 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about, it's an online yoga platform. But you 128 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: cover this is what I say to people on my Instagram. 129 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: It's not just yogs, not that just yogas is the 130 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: right thing to say, but it's palats. 131 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: Yep. 132 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: You've got intense, like interval training stuff in there. But 133 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: then there's like the darma talk, the stretching, you cover 134 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: all you have I missed anything? I feel like I 135 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: might have. 136 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: You did it all, right. 137 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's stretch classes, there's intensive classes, which are a 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 3: combination of polates and conditioning and interval training. Then there's 139 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: vinyasa classes, and then there's philosophy talks and meditation and 140 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: breathing exercises. Because yoga is so multifaceted, and so as 141 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: I've grown over the years, I've just gotten to appreciate 142 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: all these different facets of movement, of yoga, of philosophy, 143 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: of breathing, of meditation, and so I really wanted to 144 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: create an online platform that touched on all these different 145 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: facets of yoga, which you know have helped me so 146 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: much in my own life. 147 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: Well, you've nowed at my friend, It's something that I 148 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: look forward to, and I think I've already messaged you 149 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: this on Instagram. I look forward to it each night. 150 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I get my laptop ready, I get like 151 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: just a phrash enter in the morning. So I'm a 152 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: huge fan. But what I love about both of but 153 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: also when I did your teach training, you do this 154 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: darn and talk at the start of class, and it 155 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of set the theme of the class. And you 156 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: did speak, especially in the teacher training, of when you 157 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: used to go canoeing and live, yes, so close to nature. 158 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: And I guess my I had. I had a full 159 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: question around the cannoiing. So I've got a few questions 160 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: around it because I've. 161 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: Got to go for it. Let's ass stick deep. 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: Did you do a ten day solo adventure? 163 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: I did. 164 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: I did a ten day solo canoe trip all bout myself. 165 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: So my partner at the time, actually my ex husband, 166 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: drove me up north. 167 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: There's a YouTube video this too. I watched it. 168 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, there's a video of us. Yeah, 169 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: I did a little go pro video. Yeah, when go 170 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: pros were all the rage. So he dropped me off. 171 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: I drove me six hours north to a small town 172 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: called Tamogami. I was is surrounded by a bunch of 173 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: lake systems. Dropped me off and I started a ten 174 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: day solo canoe trip. It was just me myself. You know, 175 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 3: up in that region there's no cell phone service or whatnot, 176 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: and so yeah, I had no contact with any other 177 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: human for ten days. 178 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: And you know, you would have loaded this onto YouTube. 179 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: I think this was twenty twelve, so a while ago, 180 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: and it said, oh, said that was me making the 181 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: bad sound, by the way, the host of the podcast, 182 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: so it said alone for ten days, but not alone 183 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: at all, or something along those lines, which feels. 184 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: Very but far from lonely. Yeah, yeah, you. 185 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: Did it so much nicer thatiety. But I feel like 186 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: that's a yogi philosophy in itself. 187 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yoga is well. 188 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: I mean, if you go back through yoga history and 189 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: go back through the traditions, it was a practice of 190 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: kind of renouncing the world and going into the jungle 191 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: or into kievs and being comfortable with being by yourself 192 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 3: and renouncing the world. That was kind of one expression 193 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 3: of yoga back in the day, and it definitely more 194 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: classical traditional way of doing it. And so yeah, it's 195 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: the practice of yoga's being comfortable with who you are 196 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: and being comfortable with the presence that you. 197 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: Halt totally and you again, I'm going back to teacher training, 198 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: but last night I went over my manual, so it 199 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: all came back to me. But is that where the 200 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: idea of self studies kind of started from? You'd go 201 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: away you'd learn about yourself. I'm talking way back in there. 202 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't know my yogi history as well as I 203 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: should have exam. 204 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay. 205 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: But was that the idea? And what's the word for 206 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: there's a beautiful word for self study? 207 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I love yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Self 208 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: study is understanding who you are. And that's the whole, 209 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: the whole croox of yoga is. It's two parts. For me, 210 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: yoga is all about a achieving a deep level of 211 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: peace or calm by able by being. 212 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: Able to control your mind. 213 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: Basically, so having mastery over your mind in a way 214 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: where you're able to achieve mental peace and calmness. And 215 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: then the second component of yoga, this is more of 216 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: a traditional definition, is to know who you are. So 217 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: it's the two things. It's a achieving peace and enlightenment 218 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: by having mastery over your mind. Yeah, and then secondly 219 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 3: knowing the truth of life, knowing the truth of who 220 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: you are, knowing the truth of what is. 221 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: I'll take all of that place. 222 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: And at least it'sself to a good conversation because I 223 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: think a lot of us we do yoga because it 224 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: feels good. Yeah, you know, and so it helps us 225 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: like sense into like that is our true nature, is 226 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: this feeling, this deep rooted feeling of feeling good. But 227 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: there's also more to us than just feeling good. So 228 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: I always push people. You know, Yes, yoga is so 229 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: good for feeling good, and it's important for us to 230 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: feel good because life can be really crazy, and it's 231 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: really important to know how to feel good. But yoga 232 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: is also about knowing the truth of what is. And 233 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: if we always think yoga is just about feeling good, 234 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: we only go so far with yoga because we go 235 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: until we feel good and then we stop. But if 236 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: we approach yoga and wanting to know the truth of life, 237 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: the truth of who we are, the truth of why 238 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: we're here, the truth of where we're going and why 239 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: we're going there, then that will push us to a 240 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 3: different life in our yoga practice. 241 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: I've heard you say you can see a student's skin 242 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: change and eyes change when you're holding them in a 243 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: pose and they're in that bit that's like just a 244 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: pinch longer than is what feels good, Yes, And it's 245 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: that moment where you kind of have to go, oh, 246 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: my thoughts are taking over, Oh, what's coming up for me. Now, Oh, 247 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: this is really uncomfortable and now I just need to 248 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: sit in it. Yeah yeah, yeah, and it's very confronting totally, 249 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: and that's what I actually love about Yeah, yog. I 250 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: just I love that it forces me to face myself 251 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: totally every day. 252 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 253 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: So okay, is it true. Is it true that your 254 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: first teacher training was when you were seventeen years old? Yes, 255 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: that's mental. It was crazy. 256 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: It was so funny because I wanted to sign up 257 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: for the teacher trade. So for those of you who 258 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: are listening, I grew up in a small country town, 259 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: you know, like people did not know what yoga was, 260 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: and I really didn't even know what yoga was. The 261 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: first introduction to yoga was when my mom did that 262 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: family healing ceremony in the Native American Tippies and we 263 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 3: had this woman named Carina and was like a shaman 264 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: and she showed me some yoga that they had she 265 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: had learned in like the Jungles of Brazil. So my 266 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 3: experience and understanding of yoga, like I really didn't know 267 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: what it was. And one of my high school friends 268 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: was like, oh, duncan, Like I've just finished my yoga 269 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: teacher training. It's at this new studio that just opened 270 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: at the back of the library in Uxbridge like this. 271 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: I went there. It's like this little like it's literally 272 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: like we could say where the library used to store 273 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: all their old books on it, you know, so it's 274 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 3: like like tiny is in the parking lot, like a 275 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: little bit suss And I was like, you know what 276 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: this yoga thing, like my friend's raving about it. I 277 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: went to her class and I was like, I have 278 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: to do my yoga teacher training. So I went to 279 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: go sign up and the studio owner was like, oh, 280 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: I need to meet you first, because could you imagine 281 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: like being a yoga studio owner and this seventeen year 282 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 3: old is like, I want to do well. I was 283 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: sixteen at the time when I applied. I want to 284 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: do this yoga teacher training. So we I went and 285 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: met her. Her name's Shasta, a beautiful yoga teacher and yeah, 286 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: she kind of interviewed me and then she's like at 287 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 3: the end of the interview, she's like, yeah, I'd totally 288 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: love to have you on the teacher training. 289 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh great, I'm so excited. 290 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: So cool. So is it true? And I reckon, you're 291 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: going to correct me and say that it's more than this. 292 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: But I read an interview that you did probably a 293 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: couple of years ago now, and you've done nine teacher 294 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: trainings by then as a student. How many of you 295 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: done where you've been a student. 296 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: I've done. I can't laula so many. 297 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: I'm just super fabulous and a super overteever, but yeah, 298 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: I've done quite a few. I think I've done like 299 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: four two hundred hours and four three hundred hour trainings 300 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: and then several like you know, mardules and stuff, just 301 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: isolated mardules on top of that. So I just love 302 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: being a student. 303 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: I was going to say, is that a love of 304 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: also to be a good teacher to continuously be a 305 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,239 Speaker 1: student as well and keep learning and growing and expanding, 306 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Because I know I've done my two hundred hours and 307 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: a few other kind of like add on ones before 308 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: i'd done the three that was three hundred hours with 309 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: you last year was in it, and like I felt 310 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: like my mind was exploding and my muscles by the way, 311 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I've been paining all 312 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: the time. Good pain everyone. Yeah, But yeah, is it 313 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: because you like being a student or is it more like, hey, 314 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: for me to be the best teacher, I need to 315 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: be able to be open and learning as well. 316 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, combo a bit of both. Yeah, it's a 317 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: great question. 318 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: I think for me, whenever I do a teacher training, 319 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: it's like, I just need some time to focus on 320 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: myself and my spiritual journey because those teachers, we tend 321 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: to give a lot. And so for me and my 322 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: yoga teacher trainings, whenever I did one was the time 323 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: for me to really focus exclusively on myself and where 324 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: I was at. 325 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: In my life. 326 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I kind of viewed like each yoga 327 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: teacher training as the rates of passage almost, you know, 328 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: like a moment to reset and really kind of acknowledge 329 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: where I'm at in my life and where I want 330 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: to go and really check into that internal eternal, both 331 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: the eternal and the internal voice. 332 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. I totally agree with you. And even if 333 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: you're going without that kind of intention, I think that 334 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: happens whether you like it or not. 335 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: Totally. 336 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 337 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Oh my goodness, so many questions. I'm like, 338 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're missing all this stuff. So when 339 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: you did finish your teacher training, the first one when 340 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: you're seventeen years old. Were you teaching at your high 341 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: school like teachers after school, students at lunch and stuff. 342 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I finished my first teacher training and 343 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: I was like, I want to teach yoga, and so 344 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: I just started teaching yoga at my high school in 345 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: the wrestling room. It was filled with wrestling mats. I 346 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: used to be part of the wrestling club, which is 347 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: another story, and. 348 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: Boy that was a lot of fun. 349 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: Like could you imagine a pubescent queercad and high school 350 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: wrestling all these boys. It was both extremely confronting but 351 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: at the same time slightly erotic. Anyways, that's a bit 352 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: of a tangent all that. So I started teaching in 353 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: the wrestling room because I knew the wrestling coach and 354 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: he let me use the wrestling room. And I taught 355 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: my fellow peers at school free yoga. And I also 356 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 3: taught I can't believe I did it, but I taught 357 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: the high school teachers too, like it was all free classes, 358 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 3: and I was actually like, in hindsight, I'm actually surprised 359 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: some of the high school teachers came. 360 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: But my English teacher, my art teacher. I think a 361 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: few one of my science teachers. 362 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: They would come to my class and it was just 363 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: like thirty minutes after school for free. 364 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: Oh I love it. I love it. You know. My 365 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: first experience of you, I was a student at Yoke YEP, 366 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: and I remember I did a class. I didn't know 367 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: anything of you. I don't think we knew much of 368 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: each other. And I think I was in down Dog 369 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: and you made like a really funny sexy Times joke, 370 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: and I remember I was like, who is a person 371 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: and what I love about you as a teacher, And 372 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: I think that it's such a great thing to take 373 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: both on and off the map. But like you've got 374 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: this strong discipline, Like there's a fierceness about the way 375 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: you teach that I love. But it comes with this 376 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: real playful energy. And so you can be in this 377 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: like really uncomfortable pose a hold and next minute, Duncan's mate, 378 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: you're you're making some grass joke and it is even 379 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: today in intent, so you're like, I don't know what 380 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: the joke was you maybe you're like, please don't unsubscribe, 381 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: but if you have to, I understand. But I love 382 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: that you bring this balance and I think as well, 383 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: when you're in discomfort, physical discomfort, or you're in a 384 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: long hold, the moment that you have a little laugh 385 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: or a cheeky grant, yeah, it changes everything totally. 386 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 387 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: I know, I'm just telling you how great you are, 388 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: but I wanted to I have one more canoe question. 389 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: I told you I go around. Yeah, I have a 390 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: bucket list obsession with going to British Columbia and kayaking 391 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: with Orca whales. 392 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: Oh amazing, that sounds awesome. 393 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a whale? I was like, I've 394 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: got to ask you. 395 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: You've seen whales? 396 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, because my mom lives on Vancouver Island. Okay, 397 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: so you know that's just off the coast of Vancouver 398 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: and you take the ferry to get to the island 399 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: and back and there's often whales that will like jump 400 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: along the ferry or like be in the distance. 401 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: You can totally see them. 402 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. I was like, I'm going to ask him 403 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: about whales. I know, I have a weired obsession with her, 404 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: but I had that's like my full bucket list. I 405 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: want to go and kayak in the wild again. I digress. Okay, 406 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: so you mentioned a little pine earlier that you're overachiever, 407 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: where both virgos, so I can totally relate to you there. Okay, 408 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: So I was perplexed but excited to learn that you 409 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: studied BioMed. Yes, and you've got a scholarship to do that. Yeah. 410 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: So I after high school took a gap year. I traveled. 411 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 3: I went to Africa. I lived in Ghana for three 412 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: months and worked in an orphanage. And then wow, at 413 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: that time, that was when I was applying to be 414 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: in university. And yeah, I was applying, and I applied 415 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: for scholarships because money is tight, and and yeah, I 416 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: got the President's Scholarships as a full scholarship and mentorship 417 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: from one of the faculty of the university. And I 418 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: by chance got Alistair Summery, who was the president of 419 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: the University of Guelph, and he was my mentor. And yeah, 420 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: I went to school for BioMed and it was amazing. 421 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: You know what I loved the most about it what 422 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: the competition. Oh, I just was obsessed, you know, like 423 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: it was so fun to just compete to get the 424 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: highest grades. And you know, I'm I'm I'm not like 425 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: the smartest person, but I like to push myself and 426 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: so yeah, it was after a year and a half 427 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: of BioMed, I realized I was there more to satisfy 428 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: people's expectations that I was capable of something, rather than 429 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 3: being there because I actually saw myself being a doctor. 430 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: You know when you started that course, if you did 431 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: become a doctor, did you know what type you wanted 432 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: to become. 433 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: I was considering me a natural pathic doctor. Yes, that 434 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: my parents' influence, but yeah. 435 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: I just had a day when I was doing like 436 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: my biocom homework, and I was sitting at my desk 437 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, someone asked like, if 438 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: you had to do one thing that was like really 439 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 3: crazy right now, there are a few friends around if 440 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: you had to do one thing that was really crazy 441 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: right now, like it was absolutely crazy, but it was 442 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 3: something you want to do, what would it be? 443 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 2: And I remember answering, I totally drop out of BioMed 444 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: and I go to dance school. Yeah, And after I 445 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: said that, I was like, shit, life's too short, let's 446 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: go for it. And I did. 447 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: I dropped out of BioMed, I said goodbye to the 448 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: full scholarship. It was really tough because you know, there's 449 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: something very prestigious about saying I'm in a BioMed program. 450 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: I'm planning on becoming a doctor, Like I've got this 451 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: full scholarship, like the president of the university is my 452 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: mentor like that to me, I took a lot of 453 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: I built my identity around that. So to suddenly be like, oh, 454 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to be a UNI drop out and go 455 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: an audition for this dance program downtown Toronto that I 456 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: might not even get was really like nerve racking. But 457 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: it was a big moment for me in my life 458 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: where its like I can do whatever I want, you know, 459 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: I just need to be clear on what it is 460 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: that I want to do with my life. 461 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: I'm back yourself. It's so cool to learn about the 462 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: biom in side of you because as been your having 463 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: been your student both in the teacher training and now 464 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: on have it makes sense you've got this love of 465 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: anatomy as well, and this understanding of the human body, 466 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: and you've got a hunger to I feel like you'd 467 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: be someone that's constantly learning or reading or investigating something 468 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: or understanding something. But now it makes sense that you've 469 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: gone down that quite like studious past. Yes, so dance 470 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: tell me about my. 471 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: Gosh, Laula. 472 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: So when I was thinking wow with that BioMed, I 473 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: was also dancing, like time I'd go to ballet classes 474 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: and you have, I started dance late. I started dancing 475 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: when I was sixteen for the most part, Like that's 476 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: when I seriously threw myself into it. So, you know, 477 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: I was never the most technical, technically savvy with regards 478 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: to my technique, never the most proficient because I started 479 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: so late that I was always pretty overwhelmed in each 480 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: dance class compared to all my other fellow dancers. So 481 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: when I auditioned for the dance program at Ryerson, you know, 482 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 3: I knew I wasn't going to be the best. You know, 483 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: I don't want to be self defeat us, but just 484 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: from like a technical standpoint and professional standpoint, I have 485 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: got the hours. 486 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: You know, I just knew I wasn't going to be 487 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: the best. 488 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: But I was like, you know what, I'm just going 489 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: to show up and do my absolute best, and Lola, 490 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: it was a bit of a shit show. Like I 491 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: was there, I was present, I did my best, but 492 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: there was sometimes where I was like, fuck, I'm way 493 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: over my head. 494 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: I love that feeling though, Yeah, it's a nice feeling. Yeah. 495 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 3: And so when I had been dancing part time in Guelph, 496 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 3: I had also started taking these modern dance classes, these 497 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: contemporary dance classes with a very famous Canadian choreographer, David Earl, 498 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: and I kind of knew that he was well known, 499 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: but didn't know how well known and acknowledged he was 500 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: in the dance community. And so when you dance for 501 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: the audition at Rrison University, you need to provide a 502 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 3: letter of reference, and mine was David Earl's and I 503 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: didn't know like that people really knew him, and so 504 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: he wrote me a letter of reference which was really beautiful. 505 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: And at the end of my audition, I sat down 506 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: and Nadia Potts, who's the director of the program, used 507 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: to be a former prima Valerie of the National Vallet 508 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: of Canada, like principal dancer for many many years, very 509 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: intense woman, you know. I sat down, they interviewed me. 510 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 3: She said, this letter of recommendation was absolutely beautiful. What 511 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 3: you've done in the audition is more than enough. We're 512 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: going to accept you into the program. 513 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that moment I was like like in my head, 514 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: I was like, really you want me? 515 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: And I was just like I was over the moon 516 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: because I had Remember I dropped out of the BioMed 517 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: I didn't really know what was going to happen, and 518 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: in that moment, I was like, leaving all that behind 519 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: was the right choice. 520 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: You took a leap of faith. 521 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 522 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard in an interview you would take class 523 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: really seriously. You'd be trying to work so hard on it. 524 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: And that same person, was it Nina you were just 525 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: talking about she click in your face and be like 526 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: where are you? Where are you because you're kind of 527 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: in your head? 528 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 529 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: So often Natia Potts, she is very confrontational dance teacher, 530 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: like she just got in your face about things, which 531 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: is we all loved her because she was just so 532 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: genuine and also she wanted you could tell she wanted 533 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 3: us to do the best. 534 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: But she's also intense. She was an intense person. 535 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she would snap her fingers in our face 536 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: and be like, where are you? What's the story you're telling? 537 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: I want you to be in your body. I want 538 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: you to see I want to see your whole body 539 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: expressing the story that you want to express. 540 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't want you to be robots. I want you 541 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: to be human beings. I want you to be in 542 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: your body. 543 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: So she instilled a lot of kind of I would 544 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: say movement philosophy and perspective into my life. 545 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: And I'm for sure that would have affected the way 546 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 1: you teach, right, totally yoga teacher. Yeah, because we can. 547 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: You can often go and do a yoga class and 548 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: be so stuck in a thought or a story or 549 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: something's happened before. You're not and you're moving your body. 550 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: But sometimes you can do classes and not connect to it. 551 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Totally can happen. And so like being in your body 552 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: is a mantra, is such a powerful simple thing to have. 553 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: Totally. 554 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: Okay, again, you're an over are achieva. So I've got 555 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: to ask about iron Man, Yes, and I have heard 556 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: a bit of iron Man's store, like I think you 557 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: push yourself right to the limits. I did, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah. 558 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: So the first iron Man I did was the North 559 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: American Championships and in Quebec, which is you know, the 560 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: French events of Canada, so beautiful. Course it was Mont Tromplais, 561 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: so it's like a a ski ski region, so very hilly, 562 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: which was a bit brutal for the bike ride. 563 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, I went from. 564 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: I needed something intense after I dropped out of dance school, 565 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: so you know, I let that go. And that was 566 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: a huge again identity crisis because it was. 567 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: That same feeling. Was it like, this is not where 568 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: the fashion purpose thing? 569 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 570 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was almost too much passion that I was 571 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 3: too emotional, My highs were too high, my lows were 572 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: too low, and it was too extreme. And I felt 573 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: really overwhelmed at the dance school and I just needed 574 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: I needed to get out. 575 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: I wasn't in a good place mentally. 576 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: So I went to work into retail Lululemon folding pants, 577 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 3: and I was like, I need something that's different and 578 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: that's going to challenge me and that's going to be intense. 579 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 3: So I heard about this iron Man triathlon. For those 580 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: of you who are listening, if you don't know what 581 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: it is, it's like a three point eight kilometers whim 582 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: one hundred eighty kilometer bike ride followed by a full 583 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 3: marathon as you do. And I had never swam more 584 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: than ten laps in the pool continuously, because you need 585 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: to swim ten laps to get your bronze cross, and 586 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 3: that's what I had. 587 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: And the swim is aggressive. I've done a mini a 588 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: tiny mini triathlon and people will like hit you under 589 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: the water. 590 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 591 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: I have a story around that, but that's so yeah. 592 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: I signed up for this iron Man and I'd never 593 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 3: sway more than ten laps, never ran more than ten kilometers, 594 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: never biked more than ten kilometers. 595 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: So it's like I'm just going to throw myself into 596 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: something that I don't. 597 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: Know really what I'm doing. And so I got a 598 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: coach trained the whole year, did the Iron Man. I 599 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: invited my parents to come to the Iron Man race, 600 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: my only my grandparents. It was really special because my 601 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: parents had just separated, so it's kind of the first 602 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: time the family coming together. Did the race and got 603 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: through the swim, got through the bike ride, got to 604 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: the run, and then I started feeling really weird, and 605 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is probably what it means 606 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: to be an iron Man, you know, like you go 607 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: through these really weird feelings in your body. And I 608 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: basically started puking my guts out. Couldn't really figure out 609 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: what's going on. My vitals got really low, and then 610 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: I was like walking and puking, and this paramedic saw 611 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: me by the medic tent, and I heard other arman 612 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: and trathletes say, don't let the medics get you. Whatever 613 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: you do, keep going because once they get you, they'll 614 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: probably not let you go. So this medics like, why 615 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: don't you come sit down? They're like walking beside me. 616 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, no, I'm FINEO no, I'm okay. 617 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: I keep walking. 618 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: And then they grabbed my forearm and they were like, 619 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: oh what do you just come down? 620 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: Just sit down for a few five minutes. That's how 621 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: you get they get you. And I was like, oh, okay, okay, 622 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: I'll sit down. They sat me down, they took my vitals. 623 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: They said that my vitals were really bad. They're gonna 624 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: have to take me off the course. They cut off 625 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: my time chip. They put me into this like you know, 626 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: like those white vans that you always see, like they 627 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: look like the abduct chip children like that, this big 628 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: white child abduction van. And they're like, okay, we need 629 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: to take you to the like the make shift hospital. 630 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: So they guided me into this white van and it's 631 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: filled with like try athletes who were all passed out 632 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: on all the like benches, and so I just go 633 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: and lay on like one empty bench. We drive to 634 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: the hotel, which has like a makeshift hospital in the basement, 635 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: which is like it's like I feel like I've been 636 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: in World War or something. I was like on some 637 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: of these athletes had had bike accidents, some of them 638 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: were just like unconscious because of like depletion. And I 639 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: stayed there for a bit and I just remember feeling 640 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: so disappointed in myself, like so much shame and failing 641 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: this thing that I had worked a whole year towards. 642 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: And my family were still waiting for me at the 643 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: finish line, like they didn't know what had happened, and 644 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: there's no way I could reach them. I didn't have 645 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: a phone or anything. So I remember leaving that little 646 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: makeshift hospital. I was fine and walked back to the 647 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: hotel room and just feeling so completely like, oh my gosh, 648 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm a failure. You know, failed at BioMed, failed at 649 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: University of Dance, and yeah, I failed at this stupid 650 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: iron man that I signed myself up. 651 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: I felt so much. 652 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: Failure, and I was like I also felt failure for 653 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: like I had brought my family to this and I 654 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: couldn't even finish it for them, you know. 655 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: I would have been just so rapped that you even 656 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: started though. Yeah, your family sound pretty awesome. 657 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: They were so sweet. 658 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: So did you then go into another Iron Man after that? 659 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? So the thing was after that, I felt like 660 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: such a failure. And you know, you know when you 661 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: go through those challenging moments in your life where you 662 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 3: just feel really vulnerable and you know, a bit overwhelmed. 663 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: And the next day I remember my mom's like, let's 664 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: just get out, like, let's just go do stuff. And 665 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 3: it was horrible because everyone was walking around with their 666 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: Iron Man like metals around their necks and I'm like, 667 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: oh fuck, this is so annoying. 668 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we did like this fun. 669 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: Little slide thing like down the mountain, and then I 670 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, this doesn't have to be 671 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: the end of the road for me. I can sign 672 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: up for another Iron Man, Like it doesn't have to 673 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: be over. Like somehow in my brain I had thought 674 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: it was over. But I'm like, it doesn't have to 675 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: be over. So I went back to the hotel room, 676 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: looked up when the next Iron Man was, which was 677 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: in Mexico in two months, and I'm like, okay, done, 678 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: I am going to Mexico in two months. 679 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: And I'm going to do another iron Man. 680 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: Amazing. Y did you do it? You did it, and 681 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: you finished it. 682 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: I finished it. I almost died. 683 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really really tough. I got sick again. 684 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: There's an interesting story around that too, but I won't 685 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 3: go into it. But yeah, it was really tough, but 686 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: I did finish it. 687 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: And so did you feel you know how you said 688 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: the first one that was really hard and you technically 689 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: didn't finish it, yep. And then when you went to 690 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: Mexico and did the second one, did you feel this 691 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: sense of accomplishment having failed the first one and done 692 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: the second one? Or because, like to me, that whole 693 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: story that you just told didn't sound like a failure 694 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Whereas 695 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: then you did go and do it, and you, like 696 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: you said, you were like, no, I can just do 697 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: the next one in two months time. Did you get 698 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: some sense of oh my god, I've achieved it after 699 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: doing the Mexican one? 700 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: Yes, you did, Like psychologically it was like I know 701 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: I can do this. Yeah, I know. I think you know. 702 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: Success all psychological right, totally meading what is successful and 703 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: what is a failure, and it's all about perspective. But 704 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: after finishing that, Iroman, it was just a nice thing 705 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: to be like, I know that I have the stamina 706 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: and the endurance to be able to do a course 707 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: like this. 708 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: Totally. 709 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe you did it. 710 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: After I've done a I think I've done one or 711 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: two half marathons, and I was like, I'm done, thank you. 712 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: That's enough for me. Okay, I have read a few 713 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: things about you, and I've so forgive me for I 714 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: don't know where half these quotes have come from because 715 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: we've done a lot of online interviews my friends. 716 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: Oh okay, cool. 717 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: Power living boys of Yoga. There's a lot of stuff 718 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: out there. So I love you've said something about self confidence. 719 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: It's about coming back to yourself, to be yourself and 720 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: all of yourself. I remember where I found this from 721 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: day one teacher training, who was in my own notebook 722 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: from day work. So you're obviously giving this ow pep talk. 723 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: So I like this concept of self confidence that it's 724 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: about coming back to who you are. It's being just 725 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: yourself truth for yourself, which is exactly how you live, 726 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: but then all of yourself. And I think you know 727 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: how you talked about teach training being a right of passage. 728 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: I think that, and I also access it through I 729 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: do a lot of therapy, so I get to access 730 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: all myself through facing myself and being uncomfortable with that basically. 731 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: But do you think, like is the magic in being 732 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: self confident? And this is going to sound like a 733 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: really psychological question, but is it about understanding not just 734 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: the truth of who you are, but all of who 735 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: you are? Like you were just touching on like you're 736 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: an overachiever, But that's kind of cool, I think too, 737 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you can feel anxious 738 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: when you're excited about something, but that's also what makes 739 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: you you. So do you think self confidence doesn't come 740 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: down to just truth but also being and accepting and loving. 741 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 3: All of who you are? 742 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Totally, because you were that my friend. Yeah, thank you, Lola. 743 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 2: This is like a pep talk interview. 744 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. 745 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: That's very kind of you. 746 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people and this is 747 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: where I think Yog's is really cool. 748 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 749 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: We can get that feeling every now and then of 750 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: like this is my purpose or this is my truth. Yeah, 751 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: but when you really get to this stage of hang on, 752 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: this is who I am. This is the dark part 753 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: of who I am is what on the dark like 754 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, shadow bubblah. I actually 755 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: love all of it. Yeah, and I think yogs is 756 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: a way to access that. 757 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 2: Yes, do you think totally? 758 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: Well, that's whenever we talk about like the truth of 759 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 3: who we are, I kind of break it down into spiritually, psychologically, 760 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: and physically like that. So for the new forty Hour Emersion, 761 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: which is coming out in January, it's an online course 762 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 3: for all. 763 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: Of you listening. 764 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: You can do it exactly. 765 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: But we talk about who we are and the truth 766 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 3: of who we are, and I break it down into like, 767 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: who are what's the truth of us spiritually? What's the 768 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: truth of us psychologically? And what's the truth of us 769 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: physiologically in the context of yoga and Yeah, to me, 770 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 3: the truth is acknowledging all that you are and the 771 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 3: light stuff and the dark stuff everything in between. 772 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: Do you where do you think people get most? I 773 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: know for me, I would get most stuck in psychology 774 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: until I had a therapist. I would have I reckon 775 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: that would have been like the spiritual stuff I can 776 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: access by getting onto the yoga mat. I think what 777 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: you're saying as well in the emergion, which I'll put 778 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: the links in the show notes so that people can 779 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: get involved. But what I'm trying to say is like, 780 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: do you think because you teach people right and you 781 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: are in my people to get outside their comfort zone 782 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: every single time? Yeah, they get on the mat with 783 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: you because you don't do things in halves. And I 784 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: love that, yep, But where do people everyone's got an 785 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: achilles heel is, like I would say, I'm guessing it's 786 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: the psychological stuff we get in our own way. 787 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for you can't speak for everyone, but I 788 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 3: would say generally for most. 789 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: People, it's always psychological. And the tendency, as like. 790 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 3: In the context of yoga, us as humans, we have 791 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 3: this tendency to get really caught up in our self 792 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: centered narrative. It's not good or it's bad, it's just 793 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 3: our tendency. It's our tendency to get stuck in our ahamkara, 794 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 3: our ego, and we get really caught up in our 795 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 3: own personal story. And yoga is about waking us up 796 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 3: and being like, WHOA, there's more to your life than 797 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: the story, and how is this story impacting how you 798 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 3: see yourself in the world. So yeah, it's Yoga's about 799 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 3: stepping outside of the self centered narrative. And again I 800 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 3: want to emphasize the self centered narrative isn't good or bad. 801 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: It just is what it is, you know, And yoga 802 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 3: is about being aware of it and then having the 803 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: ability to step outside of it, which is easier said 804 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: than done sometimes because the mind is so strong and 805 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 3: very strongly conditioned. So that's why a lot of the 806 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 3: ancient yoga practices involve a lot of serious mental training, 807 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: because the mind is incredibly powerful in good ways and 808 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 3: in bad way, you know, like in both. So the 809 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: practice of yoga is conditioning the mind so that we're 810 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 3: not enslaved by it, but we know, we know how 811 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 3: it works, and we understand how it works. 812 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: How cool is that? Though? I think people that haven't 813 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: done yokes that might be listening to this might be like, oh, 814 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: I thought it was touching my feet, Oh totally doing 815 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: a handstand or doing a pretzel bows. It's actually that, 816 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: to me is the tip of the iceberg, and then 817 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: you've got all this other amazing stuff underneath that you 818 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: get to experience if you open you know. 819 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: It's multifaceted, and I think that's why yoga is so popular, 820 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: because it has all these elements to it that are 821 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 3: attract people wherever they are. Like some people like some days, 822 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, I just want to wear cute little booty 823 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: shorts and groove to music and really focus on like 824 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: my physical aesthetic. Like, to me, there's nothing wrong with that, 825 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: you know, Like I like being a bit superficial, you know, 826 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 3: Like I have that tendency to be like, oh, these 827 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 3: are cute shorts, these are cute shoes. Like I'm totally 828 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 3: here in yoga to like make my I butt a 829 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 3: little perky, in my abs a little bit more toned, 830 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 3: Like I totally have that inclination sometimes, and I don't 831 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 3: think there's anything wrong with that yoga. I think the 832 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 3: most important thing we can do as yoga practitioners and 833 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 3: teachers is keep reminding ourselves that it's a multifaceted practice 834 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 3: and always acknowledge where it's come from and be respectful 835 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: of where it's come from, but also acknowledge that there's 836 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 3: many different styles of yoga, many different ways of practicing it, 837 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: And the most important thing we can do is meet 838 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 3: people where they're at. You know, and some people are 839 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 3: at the place of I want to practice yoga and 840 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 3: like cute little shorts and have an hour of being cute, 841 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 3: and I love that, you know. And some people are like, 842 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 3: I want to talk about philosophy for an hour, and 843 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: other people are like, I want to sit down and 844 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: meditate for an hour. And some people are like, I 845 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 3: want to do a kundalini cleansing a chakra. Some people 846 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 3: are like, I want to talk about the kneecapsule and 847 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 3: you know, ligaments and tendons and you know mobility conditioning. 848 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 3: It's that's what's so beautiful about yoga is it's it 849 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 3: truly is multifaceted, and it was philosophy that got you 850 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 3: in at the beginning. Ye totally like, I'm a philosophy 851 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 3: die hard, and that's what got me into your guys. 852 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: Not I like the physical component because I was like, oh, 853 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: this is fine, this is like dance gymnastics, like this 854 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: is cool. 855 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 2: But it was the philosophy that originally drew me in. 856 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: Me too, I love the philosophy and I love That's 857 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: why I think I fell for your dharma talks, because 858 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: you kind of will set us up and you'll be like, Okay, 859 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: we are going to be our body and work really 860 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: hard and work on alignment and loops of the body. 861 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: But you would share something about yourself and then you'd 862 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: bring it into some kind of philosophy that you'd studied, 863 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: and then right at the end, as we're getting into 864 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: like half Pigeon or something, you'd come back in with 865 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: the theme and it would feel like I was part 866 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: of a story. 867 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 3: You know. 868 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: I felt very not And philosophy is what gets me 869 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: in the door every day the week. 870 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 3: I love it. 871 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great to feel good, but it's also really 872 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: cool where you look at something through a different lens. Yep. 873 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: And that's where I love philosophy because it'd be like, 874 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: let's look at truth, Yeah, let's look at contentment, let's 875 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: look at setting intentions. And I'm like, I haven't thought 876 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: of doing it that way. 877 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 878 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: I have to ask you, Meghan Markle. You guys have 879 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: got the cutest little photos. So Dutch of. 880 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 2: Sussex, Yeah, the Duchess of Sussex. 881 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said Dutch didn't. 882 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay. Gender is fluid, it's a social construct. 883 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: So there's the cutest photos of you guys. Tell me 884 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: about it because didn't you do a shoot get you 885 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: involved as well? But you were her teacher before that. 886 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was teaching at a studio in Toronto 887 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 3: called Moto Yoga, and Meghan lived around there, and she 888 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 3: started coming to my classes. And you know people who 889 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 3: you just kind of like make like you know, you 890 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 3: just got you vibe with them right away. So I 891 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 3: felt that kind of connection with Max right away. And yeah, 892 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 3: she came to my classes. The classes were tough. There 893 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 3: were level three vinyasa classes, so advanced level classes in 894 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 3: a forty degree Celsius room. So it's a hot yoga, 895 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 3: hot vinyasa and then we blast music and she's like, 896 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 3: We've been on set for eighteen hours, I've had two 897 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 3: hours of sleep and I'm here and it's a level 898 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 3: three hot vinyasa at eight am on a Sunday morning. 899 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: And that class was so fun. 900 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 3: To teach because it was like all these super tight 901 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 3: a people. It was like, you know those classes that 902 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 3: have such a vibe to them. It was such a 903 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 3: fun class to teach, you know, it was really good. 904 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's I met Meghan through there, and she'd 905 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 3: come to quite a few of my classes, and then 906 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 3: She mentioned that she was doing like a few yoga 907 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 3: photoshoots for some magazines and she wanted me to come 908 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 3: in and just help her with her alignment and form, 909 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: and so I did, and yeah, we just kind of 910 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 3: got to know each other that way. 911 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: She I found a quote she said about you. It's 912 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: really cute. 913 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 2: Okay, you want to hear. Yeah, let's go for it. 914 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: He's so positive, and especially in the industry I work in, 915 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: it's so important to surround yourself with positive people. Basically, 916 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: you're a good egg. 917 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's how cool. 918 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I can't believe this is going so fast, 919 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't want to miss anything. I 920 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: have to mention this. I saw an interview did and 921 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: I was someone in the interview. They're like, Duncan, what's 922 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: your favorite quote? And you were like teeth in the wind? 923 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, what's teeth in the wind? And 924 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: so I did it and I was like, oh my god, 925 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: you mean smiling, but I love it. Yeah, so that's 926 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 1: you smile hate. 927 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's from the canoe tripping camp that I grew 928 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 3: up from. Yeah, and their phrase was always teeth to 929 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 3: the wind. So whether you're smiling or Grima saying you 930 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 3: always face the wind and you bury your teeth. 931 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: I love it. 932 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was it was kind of our rally call. 933 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 3: Because a lot of the canoe trips that we did 934 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 3: as youth were really physically demanding and intense, and the 935 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 3: phrase was always teeth to the wind. 936 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: I love it. 937 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 3: Actually, Joe proposed to me and he he engraved it 938 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 3: on my ring, so it's on the inside of my ring. 939 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: We haven't even talked about Joe yet. But Joe was 940 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: the reason that you came to Australia. Yes, I was 941 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: seeing his sisters but also had a date x head 942 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: pizza dates. 943 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I was visiting my sisters for Christmas. Yeah, Matt, 944 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 3: Joe and Lennox had went for pizza and fell madly 945 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 3: in love with him and then decided to move to Australia. 946 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: And I can testify I've had pizza with Joe also 947 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: because about Yeah, that was so good. Yeah, And I 948 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: bought my boyfriend Matt along and he was like, how 949 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: cool are they? And I was like, yeah, that's pretty cool. 950 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: Was the coolest. 951 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's very awesome human being. Okay, So I 952 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: go through these phases where and this is we're winding 953 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: up now, so I'm so mindful of time. But where 954 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to pick like a Yogic philosophy 955 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: or Sanskrit word where I'm like, that's my jam for 956 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: this week. So and I've written down a few of 957 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: my faves like Satya truth, tell me if I'm saying 958 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: any of this wrong, by the way, but even like 959 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: prana life force and vitality, shrata faith yea is Koruna compassion. 960 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: Am I saying that, do you have a favorite where 961 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: you're like, this is my go to? 962 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, yeah, totally. Lagima, which is lightheartedness. So 963 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 3: they say when you start practicing yoga with enough dedication 964 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 3: and passion, eventually you'll accruse supernatural powers, and one of 965 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 3: them is known as lagima. Is this ability to you 966 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 3: become so late you can actually levitate. And I also 967 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 3: translate it as like this ability to be light hearted. 968 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: I love, I love it, I love it, and I 969 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: love as well. I always come back to just like 970 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: the simple act of setting a san culpa, like at 971 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: the beginning of my class, and I'm like, I might 972 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: just send one for my day. 973 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important. 974 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 1: Oh, totally. Okay, I want to talk quickly before we 975 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: end about hob Yoga. So this is coming out of 976 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: this We're recording this a little pinch early, but this 977 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: is coming out at the start of the year. You're 978 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: at first ever episode of. 979 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 2: Super Honored. 980 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: But there is so much stuff. So for people that 981 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: are brand new to hearing about Duncan and check out 982 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: hov Yoga. 983 00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 3: Yep. 984 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: It's an online platform you are going to be offering 985 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: You're already offering immersions yep, teacher training yep. 986 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 3: And yeah, soh is an online platform. We have like 987 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 3: a that we have Hub Studio, which does all on 988 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 3: that that's what I says, that's what you do. It's 989 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 3: all the intensive and Yasa flow classes, philosophy classes and meditation. 990 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 3: And then we also have Hub Academy, which is our 991 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 3: teacher training and have stands for a heart of the Yasa. 992 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, we have the forty hour immersion which I 993 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 3: do multiple of. It's all online. It's launching January twenty fifth. 994 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 3: Also you can sign up if you want. It's for 995 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 3: dedicated students who want to deepen their practice. 996 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: I love everything you've created and I have to say 997 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: Hoo has bought me so much joy during lockdown as well, 998 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: because because I really did miss and I felt like 999 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 1: I lost a little bit of myself when I couldn't 1000 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: practice anymore in a studio. And then when you just 1001 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: randomly wrote to me and you'll laugh for two weeks 1002 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: because I do a little list at the start of 1003 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 1: each week of what I mean, and I'm like, start 1004 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: doing duncan yoga, Start doing duncan. Yeah, And you wrote 1005 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: to me and you popped up in my Instagram and 1006 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: you were like, do you want to do it? And 1007 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, So anybody that hasn't please, I'm 1008 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 1: telling you try try this incredible online platform. Also, you 1009 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: can do it anywhere in the world at any time, 1010 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: in your laund room. If you've got blocks, great, if 1011 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: you don't, doesn't matter. I didn't mind without blocks today, 1012 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: it didn't matter. So it's super accessible. And that's what 1013 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 1: I think your passion is to make yos accessible to all. Yah. 1014 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 3: I'm a bit like big believer and making yoga more accessible. 1015 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 3: And it's still a work in progress. But if any 1016 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 3: of you are listening to this and you've been financially 1017 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 3: impacted by COVID and you'd love to try Hub, but 1018 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 3: you can't afford it, just send me a message or 1019 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 3: a Lola message. We can get hooked up. And we 1020 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 3: have a COVID support program for a hub self. For 1021 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 3: people who are financially impacted. They can do hub for 1022 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 3: free on our COVID support program. 1023 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you're amazing. It has been a total 1024 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: honor they have you on podcast. I hope. I can't 1025 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: wait till we hang out again, and it sounds like 1026 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,439 Speaker 1: it might be soon. 1027 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much, Laura. 1028 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. 1029 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: As always, thank you to our guests, and let's continue 1030 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: the conversation on Instagram. I'm at Yamo, lollaberry. This potty 1031 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: my word for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. 1032 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: I'd love it if you could subscribe, rate and comment 1033 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: and of course spread the love.