WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Laura found something COOKED in her chips 0:00:10.379 --> 0:00:14.219 High Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen 0:00:14.259 --> 0:00:20.418 live on the Free iHeart app a good Pickup with 0:00:20.579 --> 0:00:23.018 Britt Hockley and Laura Ben Brady. 0:00:23.139 --> 0:00:27.739 Your work, our windows done. That's my world rison the dust. 0:00:27.939 --> 0:00:29.179 Only good labs. 0:00:28.939 --> 0:00:29.579 Are all down. 0:00:30.659 --> 0:00:33.339 I've don't much, but yeah. 0:00:33.179 --> 0:00:35.979 I know I'll beg get and what I want. It 0:00:36.139 --> 0:00:38.818 don't matter where goes. This is the pickup. 0:00:39.259 --> 0:00:42.539 Hi, guys, you're listening to the Pickup with brid Hockley. 0:00:42.299 --> 0:00:45.019 And Laura Ben. Oh we're seeing now. Sorry, I don't 0:00:45.019 --> 0:00:46.339 know where that came from. I'm just in a good 0:00:46.339 --> 0:00:48.659 mood today, more different person out. You're pregnant. I don't 0:00:48.659 --> 0:00:51.379 know what's happening. There's lots of hormone changes, brain synapses 0:00:51.419 --> 0:00:52.219 to change. 0:00:52.419 --> 0:00:54.859 There probably is, though to be fair to really sleep 0:00:54.859 --> 0:00:56.059 deprived already sleep. 0:00:55.819 --> 0:00:57.219 In somnia, pregnancy insomnia. 0:00:57.419 --> 0:00:59.419 I suppose the other kind of insomnia you can get 0:00:59.499 --> 0:01:05.779 that's not sleep related. Bread Yes, okay, so I have 0:01:05.938 --> 0:01:09.499 just hit twenty six weeks, which is weird to me 0:01:09.739 --> 0:01:12.059 because you're just not even pregnant to me. I know 0:01:12.259 --> 0:01:13.938 you do treat me like I'm not pregnant, like that, 0:01:14.738 --> 0:01:17.859 I'm in need denial I need everyone to be like 0:01:17.899 --> 0:01:18.339 you are gay. 0:01:18.499 --> 0:01:21.379 I am sympathetic, but I'm denial. Yeah, I'm dealing with 0:01:21.378 --> 0:01:22.499 it too. It's our pregnancy. 0:01:22.658 --> 0:01:26.978 This is I understand have a guess what size fruits? 0:01:27.018 --> 0:01:28.139 Because you know how so. 0:01:28.059 --> 0:01:30.779 When you're pregnant and you go into a new week, 0:01:30.818 --> 0:01:33.219 if you've got any of those pregnancy apps, it always 0:01:33.259 --> 0:01:36.139 tells you, like what fruit your baby is. Third, I 0:01:36.139 --> 0:01:37.859 don't pay a lot of attention to it. I don't 0:01:37.899 --> 0:01:39.658 think i've looked since it was the size of a blueberry. 0:01:39.699 --> 0:01:40.098 So what is it? 0:01:40.098 --> 0:01:42.739 Twenty six weeks? Twenty six weeks? That's just over half way? 0:01:42.818 --> 0:01:43.019 Is it? 0:01:43.139 --> 0:01:43.699 Well more than that? 0:01:43.738 --> 0:01:45.979 But yeah, yeah, so you're a little bit over halfway. 0:01:46.298 --> 0:01:49.219 Six weeks over halfway? Yeah, okay, So let me think 0:01:49.259 --> 0:01:52.739 of my fruit. Would it be remiss of me to 0:01:52.819 --> 0:01:56.219 say it would resemble a premature rock melon? 0:01:57.139 --> 0:02:00.259 Premature rock melon like hasn't quite made it to full melon. 0:02:00.379 --> 0:02:02.259 That's pretty good, because I'm pretty sure rock melon is 0:02:02.259 --> 0:02:04.099 like twenty nine weeks. So yeah, I think you're pretty 0:02:04.099 --> 0:02:07.539 close the paya, Yeah, close to. But no, it's a 0:02:07.619 --> 0:02:10.379 lettuce this week letters, which also, why. 0:02:10.219 --> 0:02:12.219 Would you want to be a lettuce? Sorry? If you 0:02:12.259 --> 0:02:15.019 want to be a fruit pick a like something solid. 0:02:15.179 --> 0:02:17.819 Also, the thing is is, if you've ever seen fruits, 0:02:17.819 --> 0:02:19.578 they vary a lot in size. So I just don't 0:02:19.579 --> 0:02:21.979 know how they've whoever scaled this based on a fruit, 0:02:21.978 --> 0:02:23.499 I don't know how accurate it is. 0:02:23.499 --> 0:02:26.899 Is it a big letters melon a stage? 0:02:27.179 --> 0:02:29.499 Yeah, twenty nine weeks melon. So I'll let you know 0:02:29.538 --> 0:02:31.738 when we in that. That's pretty good for someone that's 0:02:31.779 --> 0:02:33.819 never been pregnant. I'm press. 0:02:35.819 --> 0:02:38.338 Now we've asked the question. Guys, give us a call. 0:02:38.619 --> 0:02:41.619 What did you find in your food? Because on the 0:02:41.659 --> 0:02:46.139 weekend it was my daughter's sixth birthday party? Right, lots 0:02:46.138 --> 0:02:48.219 of preparation. We did it at our house, which is 0:02:48.258 --> 0:02:50.459 a terrible idea. Don't whole birthday parties at your house. 0:02:50.538 --> 0:02:51.779 Lots of cleaner, lots. 0:02:51.619 --> 0:02:55.419 Of prep little question yep, is fairy bread? Does it 0:02:55.459 --> 0:02:58.019 still make an appearance at kids' birthday parties? 0:02:58.179 --> 0:02:58.299 Oh? 0:02:58.418 --> 0:03:00.059 Yeah, I did, half made. 0:03:00.099 --> 0:03:04.139 I made half a loaf, wonder white butter and sprinkles. 0:03:04.138 --> 0:03:06.939 And let me tell you, that was the only food 0:03:07.019 --> 0:03:09.099 that was on the table that got complete devoured. 0:03:09.099 --> 0:03:10.819 Of course, it was pure sugar. It was shit. 0:03:10.939 --> 0:03:12.819 That can't be shocking, have you No, one eate the 0:03:12.819 --> 0:03:13.939 carrot sticks and hummus. 0:03:16.619 --> 0:03:18.259 It was a big fruit platter. No, but have you 0:03:18.258 --> 0:03:21.698 actually tried it as an adult? It's terrible. It's really crunchy. 0:03:21.978 --> 0:03:22.219 Yeah. 0:03:22.258 --> 0:03:24.659 I don't like butter either, so I've had to forego 0:03:24.819 --> 0:03:25.899 the fairy bread as an adult. 0:03:26.179 --> 0:03:28.339 Yeah, it's more so that sprinkles are overrated. 0:03:28.339 --> 0:03:31.939 They taste awful, slightly sugary, not sugary enough, and they're 0:03:31.978 --> 0:03:34.019 really hard. So all these little kids are just walking 0:03:34.019 --> 0:03:36.779 around just getting turned on fairy bread. Anyway, it was 0:03:36.779 --> 0:03:38.779 the whole thing. I should have stuck to the fairy bread, 0:03:38.779 --> 0:03:40.619 because I did get a couple of packets of chips. 0:03:40.659 --> 0:03:42.178 I'm a bit of a lazy mum when it comes 0:03:42.179 --> 0:03:43.819 to a birthday party. We didn't do a cake. We 0:03:43.899 --> 0:03:46.819 just had cupcakes that I was still bought. You know, 0:03:46.859 --> 0:03:49.059 I put some candles in them. I've got a few 0:03:49.059 --> 0:03:50.699 bags of chippies. I was like, put them on the 0:03:50.739 --> 0:03:52.819 table in bowls. Kids will have a great time. You're 0:03:52.859 --> 0:03:55.939 not trad wifing. No, yeah, that's not my that's not 0:03:55.939 --> 0:03:58.779 my thing. Anyway. I opened up one of the bags 0:03:58.779 --> 0:04:02.099 of chips and it looked okay on top, but then 0:04:02.099 --> 0:04:02.459 I looked a. 0:04:02.459 --> 0:04:03.939 Bit close to I was like, what is that? 0:04:05.059 --> 0:04:07.619 And I shook the bag a bit and there was 0:04:07.659 --> 0:04:11.459 this you don't know entirely what it was it was about. 0:04:11.779 --> 0:04:14.499 It was about fifteen centimeters. 0:04:13.899 --> 0:04:16.459 Long, half a ruler that doesn't even fit in a 0:04:16.539 --> 0:04:16.939 chip bag. 0:04:17.419 --> 0:04:20.178 Yeah, about that beer just fitted in like sideways. It 0:04:20.219 --> 0:04:23.179 took up the entire side length of the bag. It 0:04:23.219 --> 0:04:25.859 looked like a full hash brown, like a McDonald's hash 0:04:25.899 --> 0:04:30.299 brown that had been severely overcooked. But then on closer inspection, 0:04:30.339 --> 0:04:31.939 I took a moment I was like, is that a 0:04:32.019 --> 0:04:34.779 chicken snitzl? Like is there a legit chicken snitsel in 0:04:34.819 --> 0:04:38.619 my chip bag? Anyway, pulled it out. I'm pretty sure 0:04:38.699 --> 0:04:41.379 it was just layers upon layers of compacted chips that 0:04:41.459 --> 0:04:44.099 had been deep fried and deep fried and deep fried. 0:04:44.579 --> 0:04:47.139 And how does it get to that point? God knows. 0:04:47.379 --> 0:04:49.539 We thought it was the golden hash brown that we found, 0:04:49.539 --> 0:04:50.499 like we'd run a prize. 0:04:50.539 --> 0:04:52.899 But that's what I was actually gonna ask that did 0:04:52.939 --> 0:04:55.299 you look up to see if there is a competition 0:04:55.379 --> 0:04:57.899 running for like whoever whatever bag finds it, because that's 0:04:57.939 --> 0:04:58.219 a thing. 0:04:58.339 --> 0:04:59.339 No, we have a listen to this. 0:04:59.859 --> 0:05:04.339 I can't tell if this is an entire potato, a. 0:05:04.259 --> 0:05:05.299 Hash brown. 0:05:06.979 --> 0:05:08.699 Or a lot of chips that have gotten stuff on 0:05:08.739 --> 0:05:10.139 the conveyor belt together. 0:05:11.179 --> 0:05:12.779 Would you you're disgusting. 0:05:13.899 --> 0:05:15.579 It's probably like the best bit of all the chips, 0:05:15.619 --> 0:05:18.059 you know, like when they're kindch It's really that's pretty good. 0:05:18.139 --> 0:05:18.979 That's so right. 0:05:19.259 --> 0:05:22.379 Delicacy. We got the special golden hash brown and the 0:05:22.819 --> 0:05:23.579 back of the gym. 0:05:24.019 --> 0:05:24.819 It's a delicacy. 0:05:25.019 --> 0:05:26.899 Matt, Yeah, it's a delicacy. Matt took one for the team. 0:05:26.939 --> 0:05:28.979 My husband, he ate he took a big bite out 0:05:28.979 --> 0:05:29.179 of it. 0:05:29.259 --> 0:05:29.979 I think he just did it. 0:05:30.819 --> 0:05:33.259 No, he told me off camera that it was actually revolting. 0:05:33.339 --> 0:05:34.939 He was like, I'm worried that I ate that maybe 0:05:34.939 --> 0:05:35.379 to make me. 0:05:35.339 --> 0:05:37.979 See at least it was something edible that was in there, 0:05:38.019 --> 0:05:39.859 because there could be some weird and wonderful things that 0:05:39.899 --> 0:05:40.259 get stuck. 0:05:40.459 --> 0:05:41.219 Well there have been. 0:05:41.379 --> 0:05:43.139 There have been some weird, wonderful things. Did we put 0:05:43.179 --> 0:05:45.699 the call out to you guys, what did you find 0:05:45.859 --> 0:05:48.299 in your food? And let me tell you everything from 0:05:48.339 --> 0:05:51.819 band aids to nails to it's been disgusting. We've got 0:05:51.939 --> 0:05:53.819 Jess on the line. Jess, what did you find in 0:05:53.859 --> 0:05:54.339 your food? 0:05:55.099 --> 0:05:58.619 I was at a cafe and my omelet came out 0:05:59.139 --> 0:06:03.738 and there was a humongous giant dragonfly just cooked smack 0:06:03.779 --> 0:06:04.939 bang in the middle of my almard. 0:06:05.259 --> 0:06:07.579 Always so they might not God, they folded it in. 0:06:09.019 --> 0:06:10.619 Yeah, well, you know when you're on what comes out 0:06:10.659 --> 0:06:14.179 and it's like half folded over, presented nicely. 0:06:14.139 --> 0:06:15.939 That it just goes beyond negligence. 0:06:16.019 --> 0:06:19.219 Imagine being that person that's in their cooking and they're like, nah, 0:06:19.299 --> 0:06:20.899 either they see it or they and they can't be. 0:06:20.899 --> 0:06:23.499 Bothered to pick it out, or they're like, didn't even look. 0:06:23.579 --> 0:06:24.299 They just flipped. 0:06:24.379 --> 0:06:25.019 Now, I reckon. 0:06:25.019 --> 0:06:27.579 They the chef knows how to do the flip, right, 0:06:27.619 --> 0:06:27.939 I reckon. 0:06:27.939 --> 0:06:29.819 He just turned his head as he flipped it as 0:06:29.859 --> 0:06:31.619 it flew in like bad timing. 0:06:33.379 --> 0:06:34.859 What did you do, Jess? You sent it back? 0:06:35.939 --> 0:06:36.419 Well I did. 0:06:36.419 --> 0:06:39.299 They weren't really concerned. They offered to make me a 0:06:39.299 --> 0:06:43.499 new one, and I declined that wow. 0:06:43.819 --> 0:06:46.019 All right, great service. Don't let's not name the cafe. 0:06:46.139 --> 0:06:48.019 All right, Karin, We've got Kren on the line. What 0:06:48.099 --> 0:06:48.939 did you find your food? 0:06:49.619 --> 0:06:54.019 A family member came across a mouse frozen to the 0:06:54.019 --> 0:06:55.819 bottom of like frozen pizza. 0:06:55.899 --> 0:06:56.499 But it was like. 0:06:58.099 --> 0:07:01.419 Between the plastic. Yeah, a mouse, a little little mouth 0:07:01.739 --> 0:07:04.219 already sealed in a plastic part, so like between the 0:07:04.219 --> 0:07:05.019 box of plastic. 0:07:05.099 --> 0:07:07.339 So yeah, I would never be able to eat a 0:07:07.339 --> 0:07:07.859 pizza again. 0:07:07.939 --> 0:07:08.299 I reckon. 0:07:08.339 --> 0:07:10.779 What's happened is when it was being transferred the mouse 0:07:10.819 --> 0:07:12.939 as they'd been through like a hole in the box, 0:07:13.019 --> 0:07:14.859 and then it's just kind of like cozy in there. 0:07:15.139 --> 0:07:16.099 Because you wouldn't dine in there. 0:07:16.099 --> 0:07:16.659 He'd live forever. 0:07:17.739 --> 0:07:19.059 But then but then it ended up back in the 0:07:19.059 --> 0:07:21.579 freezer and so the poor mouse got snap frozen. 0:07:21.979 --> 0:07:24.739 Wow, the nutrients are still in there there, just frozen 0:07:24.779 --> 0:07:25.339 like a carrot. 0:07:25.579 --> 0:07:29.219 Al right, the production line, like the mouse happened to 0:07:29.219 --> 0:07:32.139 be on the production line, squish bang in the freezer. 0:07:32.379 --> 0:07:35.059 It was oh oh, Krien, thank you for that. 0:07:35.139 --> 0:07:38.419 Look, there's been some real doozies. Okay, guys, just just 0:07:38.459 --> 0:07:39.419 look at what you eat before. 0:07:39.579 --> 0:07:39.779 Take. 0:07:40.459 --> 0:07:43.179 A lot of fingernails came in. That was a real problem. 0:07:43.419 --> 0:07:44.979 I have a lot of fakey's in the food. 0:07:45.379 --> 0:07:46.859 I nearly put a fake nail once. 0:07:46.939 --> 0:07:49.979 Into the nut arena, you know the nutbox at like 0:07:50.099 --> 0:07:51.979 the supermarkets. 0:07:51.619 --> 0:07:56.499 The nut woolwors nut arena. 0:07:56.619 --> 0:07:59.179 Yeah, it's an arena that is like a great arena. 0:07:59.259 --> 0:08:00.659 We're going to end up in the nut arena if 0:08:00.659 --> 0:08:01.379 you're not careful. 0:08:03.139 --> 0:08:04.739 We have a bit of a different guest on the 0:08:04.779 --> 0:08:07.179 show today, one I'm quite excited to speak about. I 0:08:07.219 --> 0:08:10.859 saw her story online and just couldn't imagine what it 0:08:10.899 --> 0:08:13.819 would be like. We're speaking to Lyndall Bubke, who is 0:08:13.859 --> 0:08:17.659 a donor conceived woman from Brisbane and she recently found 0:08:17.659 --> 0:08:22.539 out that she has seventy seven half siblings that were 0:08:22.579 --> 0:08:25.299 also conceived by the same donor sperm. 0:08:25.419 --> 0:08:27.419 So we have Lyndall on the phone. Lindall, welcome to 0:08:27.419 --> 0:08:27.819 the show. 0:08:28.019 --> 0:08:29.139 Hi both, thanks for having me. 0:08:29.379 --> 0:08:32.419 What how did you discover that you had seventy seven 0:08:32.578 --> 0:08:33.379 half siblings? 0:08:33.539 --> 0:08:35.618 Oh, it's been a bit of a process. I did 0:08:35.659 --> 0:08:40.219 an ancestry Dnatis my husband's family really into genealogy and 0:08:40.219 --> 0:08:41.458 I'm like, well, that'll be fun. 0:08:41.579 --> 0:08:44.819 What's the worst that I imagine that'd be fun? 0:08:45.259 --> 0:08:47.619 Did you know at that point that you had been 0:08:47.659 --> 0:08:49.819 conceived through donor sperm? Like, did you know that that 0:08:49.939 --> 0:08:51.699 was the case or was it all a bit of 0:08:51.699 --> 0:08:52.619 a Pandora's box. 0:08:52.819 --> 0:08:54.899 It was a bit of a Pandora's box. I'm of 0:08:54.939 --> 0:08:57.459 an age. I'm thirty three in most I was conceived 0:08:57.459 --> 0:09:00.619 in the early nineties, and at the time, the going 0:09:00.699 --> 0:09:05.219 rhetoric that the clinics were really impressing upon parents was 0:09:05.619 --> 0:09:08.338 go home and pretend it didn't happen. It's unkind to 0:09:08.619 --> 0:09:11.059 tell them. You shouldn't tell them they'll never be able 0:09:11.059 --> 0:09:14.699 to find their donor, you know. And yes that's all true, 0:09:15.099 --> 0:09:18.659 not only because they destroyed the records in a bit 0:09:18.699 --> 0:09:21.299 of a journey, but these days people are told. 0:09:21.459 --> 0:09:23.578 At the time as well, there was nothing like ancestry 0:09:23.619 --> 0:09:25.659 dot com, so they probably weren't thinking no future the 0:09:25.699 --> 0:09:28.659 people would be able to do their own genealogy tests 0:09:28.659 --> 0:09:30.779 like that seems so sci fi for back then. 0:09:30.899 --> 0:09:32.219 I know who would have ever guessed? 0:09:32.539 --> 0:09:36.059 And then so okay, let's just set the scene tapping away. 0:09:36.219 --> 0:09:39.299 You find out you've got seventy seven half siblings. How 0:09:39.339 --> 0:09:41.299 do you then connect with them? Because I know quite 0:09:41.299 --> 0:09:43.539 a lot of you have reached out and been in contact. 0:09:43.859 --> 0:09:46.179 Yeah, there's like a group chat we have at the 0:09:46.179 --> 0:09:51.419 moment because I've fifteen of us in it. We get 0:09:51.459 --> 0:09:54.819 in touch mostly VIADEA they're testing. The clinic has put 0:09:54.859 --> 0:09:56.899 a couple of us in touch with each other, but 0:09:56.979 --> 0:09:59.819 the clinic doesn't have records for all or most of us. 0:09:59.819 --> 0:10:02.458 The seventy seven, as you said, is a minimum. It 0:10:02.499 --> 0:10:05.619 doesn't include all of the treating doctors that cleans on 0:10:05.659 --> 0:10:09.419 fertility groups that destroyed their records might include. So if 0:10:09.419 --> 0:10:11.539 it hadn't been the fact that I did a DNA test, 0:10:12.059 --> 0:10:14.539 I wouldn't have ever been able to connect with my siblings. 0:10:14.619 --> 0:10:17.659 I imagine when you find out that there's you know, potentially 0:10:17.739 --> 0:10:20.539 upwards of one hundred siblings, you would think, okay. 0:10:20.299 --> 0:10:22.059 I have to make two hundred and fifty to three 0:10:22.139 --> 0:10:24.779 hundred and fifty conservatively based on how many times my 0:10:24.859 --> 0:10:26.259 donor donated. 0:10:25.939 --> 0:10:28.699 Which is wild, and your brain must go to the 0:10:28.699 --> 0:10:31.218 fact of saying, okay, well, there's a high likelihood of 0:10:31.259 --> 0:10:33.699 all these people growing up in the same area. Did 0:10:33.739 --> 0:10:35.619 you just think that maybe you'd come across them in 0:10:35.659 --> 0:10:37.579 the past, or what if you were dating them as 0:10:37.579 --> 0:10:39.299 a teenager, or what if your husband. 0:10:39.019 --> 0:10:40.979 Was related to in some way? Like did those thoughts 0:10:41.019 --> 0:10:41.659 cross your mind? 0:10:42.059 --> 0:10:44.979 Bang on the money With my biggest fears, they're Thankfully 0:10:44.979 --> 0:10:47.779 my husband had already done a DNA test, So when 0:10:48.099 --> 0:10:49.899 I got my results back, it was the first thing 0:10:49.939 --> 0:10:51.659 I was checking in and before I looked at the 0:10:52.019 --> 0:10:55.419 eleven DNA matches, my parents had got in between the 0:10:55.419 --> 0:10:58.659 test results hitting. They told me what to expect. So 0:10:58.699 --> 0:11:01.059 the first thing I'm checking is is my husband a relative? 0:11:01.179 --> 0:11:02.179 Thank God it wasn't that. 0:11:02.459 --> 0:11:02.619 You know. 0:11:02.699 --> 0:11:05.339 I know that two of my siblings have found out 0:11:05.419 --> 0:11:07.859 they were at a party together as teenagers. It's all 0:11:07.979 --> 0:11:12.259 really cool to home. The chances of me knowing someone 0:11:12.299 --> 0:11:15.899 who's a sibling before I find their sibling is pretty high. 0:11:16.379 --> 0:11:17.819 You know, one of my one of my brothers is 0:11:17.859 --> 0:11:20.979 my cousin's friend. We're born ten days apart. We're probably 0:11:20.979 --> 0:11:23.619 conceived on the same day. And that's that's quite close. 0:11:23.739 --> 0:11:26.579 You be from the same pot of sperm, same clinic. 0:11:26.859 --> 0:11:27.739 Yeah, I think we are. 0:11:27.819 --> 0:11:31.098 Actually wow, wow, that is crazy. 0:11:31.419 --> 0:11:33.379 How look I mean, and this might be a little 0:11:33.379 --> 0:11:37.139 bit personal, but when your parents did tell you, because 0:11:37.139 --> 0:11:39.419 obviously you know, them intervening, trying to probably get a 0:11:39.419 --> 0:11:42.379 front foot on that situation, how did you respond to that? 0:11:42.579 --> 0:11:46.099 Oh? Look, it's hard, you know. I think they did 0:11:46.139 --> 0:11:48.619 the best they could with the information they had. We 0:11:49.099 --> 0:11:51.899 all agree. Now, my parents have been really supportive throughout 0:11:51.939 --> 0:11:53.979 this process because this isn't what they signed up for 0:11:54.139 --> 0:11:56.819 But now that they know this, they would have told 0:11:56.819 --> 0:11:59.259 me earlier. I always tell people who are going through 0:11:59.259 --> 0:12:02.619 to own a conception. It's so important to tell your kids. 0:12:02.779 --> 0:12:04.699 Have it just be part of the narrative, so it's 0:12:04.739 --> 0:12:06.379 not a big shock when they signed out. 0:12:06.619 --> 0:12:10.379 Well, you are also campaigning for improved regulations in the 0:12:10.379 --> 0:12:14.459 fertility clinics and creations of databases. Tell us exactly what 0:12:14.499 --> 0:12:16.859 you're hoping to achieve, Like, what regulations do you think 0:12:16.899 --> 0:12:18.259 we need to have to better control this? 0:12:19.419 --> 0:12:21.419 Yeah, well so at the moment we have state based 0:12:21.419 --> 0:12:25.139 approaching and not every state has regulation. Until October and 0:12:25.179 --> 0:12:28.659 Queensland last year there was literally nothing governing it and 0:12:28.659 --> 0:12:31.819 that's why something terrible things happened. So if one state 0:12:32.459 --> 0:12:35.979 is letting the team down, then the clinics can get 0:12:36.019 --> 0:12:39.139 away with and they do get away with sending the 0:12:39.179 --> 0:12:42.419 sperm into state to their related clinics or just selling 0:12:42.419 --> 0:12:45.699 it to other clinics and using it in the different jurisdiction, 0:12:46.299 --> 0:12:48.338 and that gets around the family limits, and that's how 0:12:48.379 --> 0:12:53.259 you create these pods of hundreds, sometimes thousands of siblings 0:12:53.339 --> 0:12:54.059 in Australia. 0:12:54.099 --> 0:12:54.979 It's just insane. 0:12:54.979 --> 0:12:56.659 And also, I mean there's been a few documentaries and 0:12:56.699 --> 0:12:58.779 stuff that have come out where it's really highlighted this 0:12:58.859 --> 0:13:01.899 issue overseas, but I don't think anyone's aware that it's 0:13:01.939 --> 0:13:06.059 something that's happened here in Australia on home soil as well's. 0:13:06.299 --> 0:13:08.459 And if we're using sperm that's imported from the state, 0:13:09.059 --> 0:13:11.299 there's no checks and balances and how many times they've 0:13:11.379 --> 0:13:11.739 used it. 0:13:12.059 --> 0:13:15.659 Well, you're gonna have a fun Christmas windle with three 0:13:15.739 --> 0:13:16.459 hundred people. 0:13:16.579 --> 0:13:17.459 I don't know what you hope. 0:13:17.459 --> 0:13:18.779 I don't know if you hope to find them all 0:13:19.419 --> 0:13:22.219 or if you're happy to just like sort of live 0:13:22.259 --> 0:13:25.299 with seventy seven the Yeah, you would, you. 0:13:25.339 --> 0:13:27.419 Know, it just feels funny thinking there are these people 0:13:27.459 --> 0:13:29.619 out there and share half of my DNA, but I 0:13:29.739 --> 0:13:31.979 never know. That's just a sadness we all have to wear. 0:13:32.379 --> 0:13:35.539 Oh well, we hope you find them. It's a remarkable story. 0:13:35.539 --> 0:13:38.859 But we are reading for you. Thanks both, Thanks Linda, 0:13:40.139 --> 0:13:40.659 so Laura. 0:13:40.779 --> 0:13:43.419 On the weekend, I tried to do what I think 0:13:43.499 --> 0:13:45.899 was a really good deed, well for myself and for 0:13:45.979 --> 0:13:48.739 my sister. But what I did was I went through 0:13:48.779 --> 0:13:51.419 all my cupboards and cleaned everything out. You know where 0:13:51.419 --> 0:13:53.379 you have this like I just had too much stuff 0:13:53.379 --> 0:13:55.098 that I have accumulated for years. I could open my 0:13:55.219 --> 0:13:58.339 wardrobe and stuff from fifteen years ago would tumble out 0:13:58.379 --> 0:14:01.779 and almost suffocate me. I have seen your wardrobe, brit 0:14:01.819 --> 0:14:04.419 and one thing like, yes, you have a lot of clothes, 0:14:04.459 --> 0:14:06.339 but the thing is you also don't throw anything away, 0:14:06.379 --> 0:14:08.219 so you keep all of your clothes, like you have 0:14:08.779 --> 0:14:11.179 multiple wardrobes. But I think because most of it's stuff 0:14:11.179 --> 0:14:12.699 that you'll keep on rotation, right. 0:14:12.619 --> 0:14:13.458 Yes, I do. 0:14:13.539 --> 0:14:15.859 I'm a real sucker for I'm like a hoarder for clothes. 0:14:15.979 --> 0:14:18.099 Like some of my favorite pieces of clothing are from 0:14:18.099 --> 0:14:18.979 fifteen years ago. 0:14:18.899 --> 0:14:21.019 So I don't necessarily just keep them. I just love it. 0:14:21.139 --> 0:14:24.699 I don't fit anything from fifteen years ago when we 0:14:24.819 --> 0:14:27.059 are yellow. And I kind of have a rule now 0:14:27.099 --> 0:14:29.419 because my wardrobes one a time was very similar. 0:14:29.739 --> 0:14:31.179 But I have a rule that if I haven't worn 0:14:31.219 --> 0:14:32.619 it in a year, it goes. 0:14:32.699 --> 0:14:33.979 I give it away to someone, or I give it 0:14:33.979 --> 0:14:34.539 to the Salvos. 0:14:34.539 --> 0:14:36.299 But I can't. I can't keep that. When he closes 0:14:36.379 --> 0:14:37.019 my house. 0:14:36.859 --> 0:14:39.019 Every like I don't know, six to eight months, I 0:14:39.139 --> 0:14:41.099 do a clean out and I send everything to the 0:14:41.139 --> 0:14:42.899 Salvos or I give it to my sister or a 0:14:42.899 --> 0:14:43.819 friend to go through. 0:14:43.619 --> 0:14:46.299 If it's like good quality stuff. So I went through. 0:14:46.339 --> 0:14:48.579 I'd been going through it for probably the last four 0:14:48.619 --> 0:14:51.059 months and slowly putting things into bags because I knew 0:14:51.059 --> 0:14:51.699 my sister was going to. 0:14:51.699 --> 0:14:52.699 Move back from overseas. 0:14:52.819 --> 0:14:54.499 I always let her go through and pick stuff and 0:14:54.499 --> 0:14:57.979 then I take it to a charity store. And so 0:14:58.459 --> 0:15:01.819 I've been accumulating these bags and one was just bin 0:15:02.099 --> 0:15:04.379 like stuff that was just so far gone, moss of 0:15:04.379 --> 0:15:05.219 eating it or whatever. 0:15:05.299 --> 0:15:08.059 Like I'm talking the dregs of my wardrobe. You're like, 0:15:08.099 --> 0:15:09.659 I would be embarrassed to give this to someone. 0:15:09.779 --> 0:15:09.979 Yeah. 0:15:09.979 --> 0:15:11.539 Then I had the stuff that my sister could go 0:15:11.579 --> 0:15:13.139 through that was like call you know, no would fit out. 0:15:13.139 --> 0:15:15.099 Then I had the bag that was just going straight 0:15:15.139 --> 0:15:16.939 to the charity win anyway. 0:15:17.019 --> 0:15:19.699 So I handed off to my sister and she went 0:15:19.739 --> 0:15:21.539 back to the Gold Coast because she doesn't live near 0:15:21.579 --> 0:15:24.299 me and I don't hear from about it. And I 0:15:24.379 --> 0:15:26.699 was like really excited because I was giving her really 0:15:26.779 --> 0:15:29.139 quality stuff. Anyway, So I bring it up and I 0:15:29.179 --> 0:15:31.779 said to her, day, did you go through the bag? 0:15:32.699 --> 0:15:36.059 And She's like, yeah, I did. I was like, okay, 0:15:36.619 --> 0:15:37.499 did you keep anything? 0:15:37.539 --> 0:15:38.339 Like did you like it? 0:15:38.419 --> 0:15:39.339 Or like you're welcome? 0:15:39.819 --> 0:15:42.059 She's like no, I think he would be nice. She's 0:15:42.099 --> 0:15:44.339 like no, Brittany, it was disgusting. When I threw it out. 0:15:44.379 --> 0:15:45.779 I was like, well, I was like, you didn't keep 0:15:45.819 --> 0:15:46.259 one thing? 0:15:46.819 --> 0:15:47.179 Nothing. 0:15:47.579 --> 0:15:50.579 She's like, no, nothing, Why would I? And I was 0:15:50.619 --> 0:15:53.619 so confused. I was like, there's some of my best pieces. 0:15:53.819 --> 0:15:57.099 She was like what it turns out I gave her 0:15:57.099 --> 0:16:00.779 a bag of like the oldest undies that you've ever seen, 0:16:00.859 --> 0:16:02.979 like undies that I've worn, that have holes in them, 0:16:02.979 --> 0:16:05.099 that have like these are undies that have been through it. 0:16:05.219 --> 0:16:06.899 I gave her stuff with moth holes in it. 0:16:06.939 --> 0:16:08.739 I gave her the bag that was supposed to go 0:16:08.739 --> 0:16:10.419