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Speaker 1: Well it is just on ten thirty and joining me

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Speaker 1: in the studio. It's the last time for twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: The Big Fella's Dave Toler, Good.

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Speaker 2: Morning to you. Great to be with you, Cadie and

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Speaker 2: Damien Hale, good morning.

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Speaker 3: To you morning Wolfe.

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Speaker 2: Oh, great to have you both in the studio.

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Speaker 1: It's been a couple of couple of weeks we've been

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Speaker 1: you know, there's been different things happening on last week

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Speaker 1: had to be a mom put.

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Speaker 3: Your priorities, get to pick your family in front of

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 1: Well my daughter got she was being announced as a

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Speaker 1: school captain, so I couldn't really miss it.

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Speaker 3: Could you get a video to watch it later? And

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Speaker 3: I are at the door waiting Toil come in.

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Speaker 1: Oh dear, Well, there's been plenty happening, and it's been

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Speaker 1: an interesting couple of days for the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: We know that the borders flung open yesterday. We're open.

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Speaker 2: We're back open for business.

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Speaker 1: But you've got to have three tests and you've got

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Speaker 1: to have a negative PCR by the time you arrive.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately at the moment it's pretty hard going trying

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Speaker 1: to get a test in some locations into state.

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Speaker 3: There's big cues, but you can come in from Sydney,

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Speaker 3: but don't come from Tenant. We've been we've been carping

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Speaker 3: on about this and at some stage COVID was going

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Speaker 3: to turn up here and it has. So get vaccinated.

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Speaker 3: I've had my third now enough exactly like a breaking record.

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Speaker 3: It was hypotheticals around what will happen if it gets

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Speaker 3: it'll be interesting. I'd just be getting as many people

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Speaker 3: vaccinated in those communities as possible and boosters.

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Speaker 1: Now are you feeling about it all day? The border

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Speaker 1: is opening, You're happy?

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Speaker 4: Oh, look you just sort of sit there and think

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Speaker 4: for how long? You just wonder for how long? You know?

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Speaker 4: It's just crazy stuff.

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Speaker 3: And well, they're talking and shut downs back in the UK.

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Speaker 3: I was reading today online that there's a real concern

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Speaker 3: that are getting the new variant now. So it seems

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Speaker 3: to be more contagious, but they're not saying whether or

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Speaker 3: not it's as virulent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they much prefer everybody just kept fretting.

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Speaker 1: Well, I actually wonder I'm certainly not health Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I'm certainly not a health expert, but from what I

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Speaker 1: they've been saying, well, it may be a better thing

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Speaker 1: for us to actually have that on maicron variant come

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Speaker 1: through and people to get to get that variant of COVID,

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Speaker 1: that is that's going to make you less sick and

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Speaker 1: hopefully not sick for as long a period as well

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Speaker 4: I want to check it out, Kadie, because all of

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Speaker 4: the scuttle buddies that once you've had COVID you are

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Speaker 4: more immune from COVID than were you to get a vaccine,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of people sort of still refer to

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Speaker 2: I am just reading even right now.

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Speaker 1: So there's preliminary data on the Daily Telegraph and it's

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Speaker 1: saying that the preliminary data on omicronstrain is encouraging, as

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Speaker 1: concerning predictions. So it comes as the Premier Dominic Pirete

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Speaker 1: diseases specialists. Doctor Nick Coatesworth, who spent plenty of time

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Speaker 2: He went on to say that the people who are.

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Speaker 1: Most worried about this in the scientific community are saying

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Speaker 1: and both can't be true. So he said, we've got

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Speaker 4: I believe the territory.

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Speaker 1: I got to tell you though, like it's kind of

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Speaker 3: Well, the information I'd like to know is with omicron,

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Speaker 4: A percentage it probably such a yeah, well.

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Speaker 3: That's probably That's probably the information.

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Speaker 2: I'd want to you want to know first, because.

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Speaker 3: There's more people getting affected now with this third strain

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Speaker 3: but as I said, I was lucky enough. I was

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Speaker 3: Danila Dilber to come back in and get my third

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Speaker 3: It was like it was like a random breath test.

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Speaker 3: Dave jumped out. If I come across the road at

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Speaker 3: the list went straight in the arm and I've got

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Speaker 3: pictures of me sitting in the.

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Speaker 4: Car there you go.

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Speaker 1: Well, you didn't even have to get out of the No, no,

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Speaker 1: I didn't go well, And it is something that's that

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Speaker 1: I know that that the Prime minister and the other

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that, Dave, Well.

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Speaker 4: I'm just curious about all this imochrome stuff. You know.

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Speaker 4: He's a message coming out of this that we just

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Speaker 4: got to keep fretting for a bit longer, or you know,

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Speaker 4: we when can the fretting stop? Or do we just

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Speaker 2: Fretting? To be honest, but that.

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Speaker 4: Seems to be about the order of the day, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Let's just fret a bit more about something else that

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Speaker 4: I noticed that we're now fretting about strains that haven't

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is.

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Speaker 4: It only dominates my life when I come in here.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, life though, if you get ready to

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Speaker 1: Doing people's lives At the moment, it's not you know,

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Speaker 2: But right now, honestly.

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Speaker 1: The thing that we hear more on the phone lines,

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Speaker 1: what have I got to do to be able to

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Speaker 2: To read show?

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Speaker 4: Were fretting about our terrorist industry, Well.

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Speaker 2: We were last week. I don't know if you listened

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Speaker 4: About all those businesses that are struggling.

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Speaker 1: Well, Dave, you've got to start listening to the showmate,

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Speaker 1: aside from when you're just on here because we were

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Speaker 4: I had radio problems in my car.

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Speaker 1: We did catch up actually with Daniel Rochford in Central

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Speaker 4: The thing is tk this is going to have a

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Speaker 4: The fact is, you know that people will sometimes plan

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of houses coming back on the market

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Speaker 1: Well, even in the Northern Territory News today, they're actually

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Speaker 2: The public service still is so interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not.

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Speaker 3: Going to the Olympics, that's the main thing. Is it

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Speaker 3: that funny? Because I've had some I've looked a little

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Speaker 2: W in Australia couldn't go, that.

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Speaker 3: They weren't going because of COVID and other factors. They

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Speaker 3: weren't going to have an influx of people that weren't

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Speaker 2: So you reckon, all these polleys are just talking tough.

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Speaker 3: And then suddenly that they've come out and made it

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Speaker 3: out as if it's a boycott. So that's just a

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Speaker 3: the Chinese were sort of saying, well, that's what we

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Speaker 3: made a big case of boycotting, the bureaucracy boycotting the Olympics,

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Speaker 3: which is great. As an Australian taxpayer, I just reckon,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well.

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Speaker 1: Like, and that was what you know what Ca had

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Speaker 4: We're lucky you.

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Speaker 3: Will you employ you for your twenty four hours a

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Speaker 4: I said, this is the first bit of anything we've

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Speaker 3: It's the first bit of correspondence in some years. Do

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Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth, what do you think about She's going to

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Speaker 4: It becomes a front of mine issue. I'm involved with

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not bad. She can't do it because

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Speaker 4: Bet she's a remarkable woman.

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Speaker 1: Ninety five, she's going to She will see family at

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Speaker 3: She's a better chance to get into one hundred than

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Speaker 4: The world's number one, he's the number one bat in

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Speaker 4: Can I just raise a big issue?

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Speaker 4: Like this one has got me confounded that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I will not It's on the on the INT newss.

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Speaker 4: The INT News is running a bit of a campaign.

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Speaker 1: Does it need to be like warts people being able

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have the answers.

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Speaker 4: You've got to look at it a different way. This

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Speaker 3: They've had a consistent view on this issue, particularly around

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Speaker 2: No, we're not.

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Speaker 4: To brush off before.

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Speaker 1: We are just about we are just about going to

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Speaker 1: fantastic to have you both on the show all throughout

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Speaker 2: We didn't do lunch again this year. That is my

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Speaker 3: Years since Pete took us because the media turned up

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Speaker 4: Then I was booted, yeah, I think politician in Australia.

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Speaker 2: It was in the day. It was on the.

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Speaker 1: Dave ended up on the week that was Remember we

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Speaker 3: there that.

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Speaker 4: Pete Davies and the little Lefty work with.

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Speaker 2: Girl Pete Dave.

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Speaker 4: He's calling Nathan Barrett a garden name. I thought that

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Speaker 3: There was one day there where Tolly's nearly climbed over

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Speaker 3: to attack Pete people suffering from cancer at the time,

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Speaker 3: to hold the bench down. Tolly's over the top trying to.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting.

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Speaker 4: Been the other way Coffin spluttering than me.

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Speaker 1: Interesting days, there is no doubt about that. But we

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Speaker 1: are going to have to leave it there, wrap up.

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Speaker 2: For the morning. It is wonderful to have you both

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Speaker 2: on the show.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to you. Merry Christmas everyone and one A four

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Speaker 4: point nine and most importantly, Merry Christmas to everyone who

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Speaker 4: listens to your show. And you're here and whatnot good personally,

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Speaker 4: enjoy coming in here and a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: tic tac with your peas.

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Speaker 2: It's always it is always good fun.

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Speaker 3: It's fun. Yeah, Merry Christmas to everyone, and hopefully people

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Speaker 3: get time to relax and enjoy some time with family

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Speaker 3: and friends. Whether you stay in town or you run

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Speaker 3: the gauntlet and go into state, now.

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Speaker 1: Stay safe whatever, absolutely and stop fretting.

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Speaker 2: Hey Dave, don't good on you.

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Speaker 1: Dave Thalma and Damien Halle, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: all the time that you give up eation every week

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Speaker 1: to be part of the show.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the big issues, so well, that

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Speaker 1: was the big issues.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine

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Speaker 2: three sixty