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Speaker 1: Well, it has been a massive weekend for Bushfires NT

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Speaker 1: right across the Northern Territory, but particularly in the Barkley

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Speaker 1: region as a huge fire has burnt through more than

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Speaker 1: nine three hundred square kilometers, with firefighting resources being called

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Speaker 1: in from South Australia to help battle that blaze.

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Speaker 2: Now, the fire started last Monday.

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Speaker 1: In the Barkley region and has burnt thousands of kilometers

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Speaker 1: over six days, with several other smaller fires also burning

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Speaker 1: around Tenant Creek. Now joining me on the line to

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Speaker 1: tell us a bit more about the situation is Bushfire's

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Speaker 1: NT Incident Controller Tony Fuller. Good morning to you, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Good morning Katie, Tony mate.

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Speaker 2: What's the latest in the Barkley region.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 3: Look, last night there was a breakout of one of

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Speaker 3: the containment lines, Cruise a little bit concerned that it

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Speaker 3: was going to run overnight, so watching act was put

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Speaker 3: in place for Tennant Creek. That watching act is still

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Speaker 3: in lace this morning. That however, it didn't run as

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Speaker 3: far as they anticipated last night. There is a survey

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Speaker 3: flight up this morning to try and work out exactly

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Speaker 3: where the fire edge is that it was looking a

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Speaker 3: little bit more promising this morning, but the Watching Act

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Speaker 3: will remain in place given that there will be a

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Speaker 3: lot of smoke over the Stuart Highway and TenneT Creek area.

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Speaker 3: There's already a lot of smoke in Tenner Creek and

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Speaker 3: this is just going to add to it. We're expecting

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Speaker 3: wind changes later in the week to have actually pushed

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Speaker 3: the smoke from east to west right across the whole

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Speaker 3: of Tenna Creek.

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Speaker 1: So tiny in terms of that watching Act for the

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Speaker 1: residents of Tenant Creek. Are they sort of all aware

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Speaker 3: I think they're fairly aware. There's been a lot of smoke,

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Speaker 3: and they actually had a fire in the middle of

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Speaker 3: got the station in Darwin. They went to work pretty

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Speaker 3: much as soon as they were on the ground. They

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Speaker 3: put to work in Tenner Creek itself. So there would

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Speaker 3: have been a higher activity that's never been seen before

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Speaker 3: like that in Tenner Creek yesterday, like I.

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Speaker 1: Know you guys are so used to dealing with emergency

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Speaker 1: and so used to dealing with fires, but was it

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Speaker 1: a pretty frightening situation for the people of Tenant yesterday?

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Speaker 3: I imagine it would have been. It was that that

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Speaker 3: fire wasn't our fire, that was actually more territory foreign

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Speaker 3: rescue fire. But we were certainly watching it. We have

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Speaker 3: the feeds into our office from the helicopters back into Darwen,

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Speaker 3: so we could certainly see the flame and how quickly

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Speaker 1: Alarming Tony by the sounds of it, you know, based

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Speaker 1: on what's happened in Tenant, based on what is going

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Speaker 1: on obviously throughout the whole Barkley region. There is a

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Speaker 1: law for our fires and bushfires into to try to

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Speaker 1: contend with. Can you just explain to our listeners how

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Speaker 1: large and significant the fire is that not the one

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Speaker 1: that was obviously intenant, but the one that bushfires int

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Speaker 1: is currently dealing with fits burnt well a huge, huge

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it's probably over ten and a half thousand

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Speaker 3: square kilometers. Now, that main fire, which we referred to

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Speaker 3: as the Epinar fire, yep. The station to the north

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Speaker 3: front Chili Lay yesterday pretty much contained it moving into

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Speaker 3: their property. So they did a whole leg the work

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Speaker 3: across the Berkley. But now we've got the issue of it.

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Speaker 3: It's probably about two hundred kilometers of active fireline or

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Speaker 3: fire edge all around this fire that we're monitoring, and

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Speaker 3: our concerns are that if the eastles do come in

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Speaker 3: and we can't get the containment lines on the western

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Speaker 3: edge of that fire, that will move towards the Stuart

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Speaker 3: So there lots of crews down there, lots of machinery.

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Speaker 3: There's machinery drawn from across the Anty down end a

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Speaker 3: to put backburns in. And that's part of the reason

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Speaker 3: we've got to watch an act to data if there

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Speaker 3: is an opportunity for crews to put some backburns in,

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Speaker 3: they will today and that will increase the amount of

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Speaker 1: Tony, what kind of resources and personnel are currently being

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Speaker 3: Look in ten At itself, we've got three single engine

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Speaker 3: air tractors. They're called seats. They hold three thousand liters

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Speaker 3: of water. They've flown in from Minna State, one from

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Speaker 3: going to put a fire out, but they certainly will

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Speaker 3: assist the cruise on the ground in attacking spot overs.

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Speaker 3: We've got two helicopters down there and we've just sent

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Speaker 3: two strike teams coming up from South Australia who should

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Speaker 3: ground and the machinery. I know there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: place from Chile station at one stage had five grade

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Speaker 3: its operating. So we've also got the ADF that should

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Speaker 3: be arriving in TANet Creek after lunch today. They'll be

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Speaker 3: bringing down to Large and Greater and their taskings will

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Speaker 3: be around Tenant Creek itself to shore up any firebreaks

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Speaker 1: In my time in the territory, and I could be

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Speaker 1: very wrong. I've been here for quite a while. I

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Speaker 1: know that you've been here for a very long time

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Speaker 1: and you've worked in a lot of you know, in

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Speaker 1: a lot of of frontline jobs. Can you recall the

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Speaker 1: threat to Tenant Creek arising in this way previously? You know,

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Speaker 3: Look, I wasn't in the fires, and we're both getting

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Speaker 3: a bit longer in the tooth, Toney. Yeah, No, Look,

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven twelve, there was there's references people can look at,

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Speaker 3: but we lost about eighty percent of the Northern Territory

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Speaker 3: I wasn't in the fire service then, certainly wasn't involved.

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Speaker 3: But I know back then they did actually bring into

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Speaker 3: I haven't had any of the experiences with Tenant Creek

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Speaker 1: Tell me as well, you know, when it comes to

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Speaker 2: How are things looking at this point?

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Speaker 3: Look across the Barkley, we've been told there's about a

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Speaker 3: I'm sure cattle stations will be looking at moving them

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Speaker 3: recently soon. But that's just Barkley itself, so a lot

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Speaker 3: At this stage, we're not aware of any significant losses

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Speaker 3: one stage, but that's been fixed, but there is real

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Speaker 3: potential that that could change. The only other real impact

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Speaker 3: we've had is to the travelers across the Barkley Highway,

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Speaker 3: which is you know, we've tried to keep that open

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Speaker 3: as long as we could, but with the flames the

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Speaker 3: way they were, we've had to shut it again. Today.

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Speaker 2: It is open again today, Tony, Or is it shut

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Speaker 3: No, I understand it was open again last night and

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Speaker 3: it should be open today. I haven't had an updates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mate, what is the plan for today, because it

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Speaker 1: sounds as though it's going to be a massive couple

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Speaker 1: of days for bushfires in Tea for our Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: Fire and Rescue Service and also you know with others

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Speaker 2: What's the plan for today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, there's a number of resources empty Fire Service

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Speaker 3: putting extra resources into Tenant Creek itself to help with

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Speaker 3: about a dozen officers. Some are being flying down and

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Speaker 3: But we're also rotating our staff through as best we can,

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Speaker 3: we can to put some containment lines in. There's a

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Speaker 3: number of plans to put a number of different lines

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Speaker 3: also the Stuart Highway. I also understand that Transport are

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Speaker 3: making sure we're putting plans in place that if that happens,

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Speaker 3: then we'll have a capability to do that at short notice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly an evolving situation. How are things looking today?

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Speaker 1: Are you what are you expecting weather wise for today?

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Speaker 2: See some respite at sometime soon?

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Speaker 3: I wish no. And for the next couple of days

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Speaker 3: we're going to have very similar conditions until later in

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Speaker 1: Oh mate, it is tough going. It is incredibly tough going.

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Speaker 1: And then you know that's obviously in Central Australia and

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Speaker 1: we sort of seeing things calm down slightly in the

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Speaker 3: Look, we're in a fireban today and I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: to whether or not we have to have another one tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's continual firebands. At the moment, it's

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Speaker 3: been a regular thing. We've been pretty fortunate that we

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Speaker 3: haven't had any significant in the top end in the

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Speaker 3: we keep reading sources in the Top end for that eventuality,

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Speaker 3: and that's why we had to bring planes from in

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Speaker 1: And volunteer wise, i mean, have you got plenty of volunteers?

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Speaker 1: Have you got plenty of I'm assuming it's all hands

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Normally we don't have a bushfire presence in TenneT Creek,

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Speaker 3: so there is one today, there's a whole lever volunteers,

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Speaker 3: and there's about five or six of our staff members

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Speaker 3: in TANet Creek itself. But the volleys have been really good.

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Speaker 3: We've put a call out and some of them have

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Speaker 3: taken time off work and they have gone down there,

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Speaker 3: and we've been rotating those through so we don't burn

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Speaker 3: we're rotating them through and getting the amount on the

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Speaker 1: Well, Tony Fuller, there is no doubt it's going to

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Speaker 1: be tough conditions over the next couple of days. You know,

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Speaker 1: all the best to your cruise, all the best to

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Speaker 1: there that's battling those fires. By the sounds of it,

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Speaker 1: we'll probably be catching up with you again tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, just a shout out to there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of people supporting bush fires the moment, the Bureau Meuterlogy

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Speaker 3: that Transport, Catleman's Association, the Land Council. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of people working behind scenes on this. Obviously, our Lord

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Speaker 3: of Terriforic Fire and the Anti Police have set up

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Speaker 3: a coordination center in Allo Springs has been run since

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Speaker 3: last Friday as well. So it's just not our agency.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of agencies working on this one.

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Speaker 1: No good stuff, and that is what we do see

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Speaker 1: when something happens in the territory, everybody pulls together and

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Speaker 1: works bloody hard to try and look out for each other.

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Speaker 1: So Fuller really appreciate you having a chat with us

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Speaker 1: this morning, and we'll probably catch up with you again tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Powers. Thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate.

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Speaker 1: That is Tony Fuller there, who is indeed well he's

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Speaker 1: with Bushfires NTS, the incident controller and I tell you

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Speaker 1: what it sounds like. It is it's pretty critical time

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Speaker 1: at the moment in central Australia, will in the Barkley

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Speaker 1: region and indeed in Tenant Creek