1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Well, as I mentioned, Charles Darwen University, they've previewed the 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: brand new Center for Better Health Futures. It's a thirty 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: point eight million dollar investment and it promises to revolutionize 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: health training in the Northern Territory. It's going to have 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: cutting edge facilities and a new school of medicine. It 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: is being hailed as a major step forward for growing 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory's own workforce. Joining us on the line 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: is CDU's pro Vice Chancellor for the Faculty of Health, 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Professor Dominic Upton. Good morning to you, professor. 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. How are you this morning? 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, really good, wonderful to have you on the show now, Professor. 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: We know that this is a huge investment in health 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: training here in the top end. What's going to make 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: the Center for Better Health Futures such a game changer 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: for us? 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I think there are two things. First of all, 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: it's the simulation activities that we can that students can 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: take place in here. So it's got a fully kitchen 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: out wall, so nursing students, for example, can practice the 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: skills before they go out into the real world. He's 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: got an emergency base, so again our paramedic students can 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: practice there. It's got a rehabilitation facility, so our physiotherapists, 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: occupational therapists, our speech therapists and so on and so on, 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: so they can practice, and more importantly, I think all 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: of them can work together to make sure that we 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: do inter professional practice. At the other end of the building, 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: we've also got the newly created Health Hub, which means 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: that residents from the top end, from Darwin and beyond 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: can actually come and take part in the student need clinics. 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: So they might have a particular issue of concern and 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: if we run a clinic on that then they can 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: see a student under the supervision of one of our 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: staff who's fully qualified. But they can get better service, 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: quicker service, and help train the future workforce for the 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: territory and profess that. 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Like, how soon are we expecting everything to be up 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: and running and students to be in there in those 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: simulated rooms. 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: Yep, So we've actually started using the facility already to 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: the therapy students of practicing their skills. We ran our 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: audiology pediatric screening clinic last week and the week before, 42 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: so they started already. Now it won't become fully functioning 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: until probably in the new year, once we get used to 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: the building, once we've got all of those courses come 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: on stream, or rather that the clinics come on stream. 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: But at the moment, we're taking it step by step up. 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: We started using it already. 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: With the simulated rooms and the simulated emergency departments. How 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: close to the real thing is it for students? 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: Yep, exactly the same. So there's an ambulance base, so 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: we have a training ambulance so that will take in 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: simulated patients over to the ambulance bay that have to 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: pass over hand over their patient to the nurse or 54 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: the doctor or the pharmacist or whoever it might be. 55 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: In that sort of emergency bay, it's or kitted out 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: with the beds with all the equipment. Now, I think 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: importantly say that all the panels and all the air vents, 58 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: they look real, so they're modeled on what we have 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: in hospital, but they're not connecting up to oxygen or 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: to instruction facilities. M's just step beyond. So probably want 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: students to recognize the workplace when they get out there. 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I think it's so important, particularly when you're 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: talking about such a hands on job. I mean you 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: have said that the facility gives students and staff access 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: to opportunities which are really available outside some of our 66 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: bigger cities. What sort of age do you think this 67 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: gives to Charles Dalen University in terms of, you know, 68 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: really wanting to you know, to to encourage students to 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: study here in the Northern Territory. 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was exactly the reason and the thinking 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: behind the facility. It means that we've got contemporary, cutting 72 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: edge facilities, the best in the country, I would suggest, 73 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: and that means a territory students can actually study here, 74 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: remain here. Practice here has actually really been to grow around. 75 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: They don't have to go into state for high end facilities. 76 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: We've got them here. You know, we are the most modern, 77 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: up to date facility. So students should be aware of 78 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: that and should want to stay here. But I think 79 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: just as importantly, people down south or elsewhere outside of 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: the territory are going to look enviously at our facility 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: and they're going to want to come up here and 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: train here. So again we'll be creating a new pipeline 83 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: of territory workforce. 84 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of you know, in terms of this facility, 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: but also our new School of Medicine. You know, how 86 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: significant is it that you're able to actually, you know, 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to do your medical education 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: and it will be delivered right here in Darwin. 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean fundamentally. I mean, there are so many 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: health professions that we need here in the territory, in 91 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: medicine being one of the key ones, and that's going 92 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: to commence in January February of next year. Applications are 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: open at the moment, and we want as many territory 94 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: people who feel that they're qualified to take on that 95 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: role and want to take on that role obviously to 96 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: actually apply and come here and stay here in the territory. 97 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: But it also means that we can train future doctors 98 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: to work in the territory, to work with the population 99 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: that we have here, to work in the geography that 100 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 2: we have here, so they know exactly what they have 101 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: to deal with and how best to deal with it. 102 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: But that goes across all of the professions. I mean, 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: since you know, over the past six years, we've created paramedicine, 104 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: we've created speech pathology, we've created occupational therapy, we've created 105 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: all of those allied health professions. We've also got a 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: new course in allal health therapy sorts of that dental 107 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: support or dental profession. So again, you know, we are 108 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 2: creating all of these, so teritory students just have to 109 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: look at CDU for their future careers, really. 110 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Like, how are enrollment numbers looking with some of these 111 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: degrees as well? 112 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: Obviously the enrollments for twenty twenty six have just started, 113 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: so we have I know, we've got over a thousand 114 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: applications for our medical program, all of our If I 115 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: look at a faculty level, then we're above target too. 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: We're above where we need to be in order to 117 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: hit our target for twenty twenty six. So enrollments are 118 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: looking positive, but we won't really know that until January, 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: February March of next year. 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And professor, in terms of you know, you 121 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: said that you've already had one thousand applications for the 122 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: medical program. Are a lot of those local people or 123 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: are you seeing quite a few from interstate want to 124 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: come here to study? 125 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: Yep? So both, and we've probably got I think it's 126 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: about ten percents of between one and two hundred from 127 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: the territory and the rest are into state. And what 128 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: we've set up the system is the priority given to 129 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: first Nations people and then people from the territory. But 130 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: then those that live into state, if they live all 131 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: and remote so they used to the sort of experience 132 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: of the territory, then they're given priority as well. So 133 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: again we're making sure that the people that come on 134 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: our medical program not really from those inner city areas 135 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: and don't understand the context. So that's the type of 136 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: practitioner that we want, the medical practition or nursing practition 137 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: so that they will know what to do within the 138 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: territory and be able to stay here and help you. 139 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, and wanting them to 140 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: stay as well. I don't know whether you can make 141 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: that a prerequisitive of coming to study in the North Chac. 142 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right, No, no, no, I mean I think 143 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: to be honest, you know, we've had a real positive experience. 144 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: Now people come to the territory and they have negative perceptions, 145 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: but when they get here they love it and you know, 146 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: they fall in love with their peers, but with the 147 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: atmosphere with Darwin or broader territory, and they do tend 148 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: to stay in here so you know, I'm quite happy 149 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: to have that brain drain from down south im into 150 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: stay up to the territory. The more the merria so, professor. 151 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: Obviously, as you pointed out, some of those some of 152 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: the areas within the facility are already being utilized and 153 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: are operational. But is it early next year that you're 154 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: expecting the whole facility to be operational. 155 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, that's right. So the medical program starts in 156 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: January February of next year. The academic year starts in 157 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: February March and next year, so that's a type of 158 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: timeline that we're working on. 159 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: Well, see to you, pro Vice Chancellor for the Faculty 160 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: of Health, Professor Dominic Upton, really appreciate your time this morning. 161 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: Always good to catch up with you. 162 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: Likewise, Thanks Katie, thank you 163 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: Thanks so much,