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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me.

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Speaker 2: Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, and yoga teacher, join me as

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Speaker 2: we get to know these guests and learn about how

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Speaker 2: their failures have ultimately shaped their dreams.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry.

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Speaker 2: Get a it's lolls here, just a little check in

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Speaker 2: from Talkie with the Boss and I big love to

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Speaker 2: everybody who's in Melbourne and in Lockdown mark two.

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Speaker 3: It must feel so tough.

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Speaker 2: We're in Talkie, so we're so lucky we get to

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Speaker 2: still move and kind of live. I guess the word

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Speaker 2: normal doesn't feel right, but a normalish life. Sending me

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Speaker 2: love to everybody in Malves and anyone in America that's

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Speaker 2: listening to this who's probably also in a pretty strict lockdown.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest we are season five Can you Believe It?

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Speaker 2: Season five, Episode one with my wonderful friend.

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Speaker 1: I want to introduce her as Natural Harry.

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Speaker 2: She is the author of two books, a third one

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Speaker 2: to come really soon. This year, when we did this podcast,

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Speaker 2: we were just kind of getting to know each other,

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Speaker 2: and to be honest with you, we've kind of become

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Speaker 2: buds now. And she's a local girl and we hang

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Speaker 2: out and go for beach walks together with her epic

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Speaker 2: dog called Fred, who's beautiful and you might know him

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Speaker 2: from my stories. So if you're into health, if you're

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Speaker 2: into plant based diet, if you're into eco living, if

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Speaker 2: you're into caring about your footprint on this earth, Harry

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Speaker 2: is the girl for you.

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Speaker 1: She's honest, she's real.

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Speaker 2: She's very successful, but she's not caught up in the.

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Speaker 1: Magic of success, you know, and the whistles. That's not Harry.

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Speaker 2: She's a real, down to earth girl who's also just

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Speaker 2: had her birthday. So happy birthday, Harry, and thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for sharing your honest story, the highs, the lows,

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Speaker 2: everything with us. I think we can all gain something

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Speaker 2: from this chat. Big love to you, Natural Harry. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the pod, Natural Harry.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. I was

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Speaker 3: just saying, what do I call you.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to call you natural Harry because

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Speaker 2: of Instagram, but it's Harriet Byrel.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah it is. I do get called natural Harry

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Speaker 4: every so often. Someone will yell it out or something I.

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Speaker 2: Get yummo because my instag No One's like, well, that's

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Speaker 2: the start of it.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's too good. Oh so okay.

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Speaker 2: So for the purposes of like mates, Harry, Yeah, Harry.

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Speaker 2: Because a friend of mine's got a Harriet and she

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Speaker 2: gets she calls her Hattie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so cute. I wish that stuck. I used

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Speaker 4: to call myself how to you when I was little,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, it didn't stick. I get my nickname is

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Speaker 4: bizz friend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good. What's it from?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 3: Can we Bizza beryl surname Harry.

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Speaker 1: I am so pumped to have you on because we So.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think where I.

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Speaker 2: First got to know because obviously I've been isolating in

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Speaker 2: talkie You're Are you based near bar one Heads?

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Speaker 3: Where are you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Just Inland of bar and Heads were Bellerine.

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Speaker 2: So we're kind of in the same vicinity. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: we've been like insta friends for a while. But when

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Speaker 2: have I feel like I first got to know you.

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Speaker 2: I actually think when I had a meeting with my publishers,

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Speaker 2: your book was just.

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Speaker 1: Around, like just around.

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Speaker 2: I know we don't have the same gang, but I

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Speaker 2: remember it being like, this is an amazing book. So

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've known about you for a very

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Speaker 2: long time.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense. Well, ditto, Yeah, that's it so weird.

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Speaker 4: There's so many funny like similarities in some of our

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Speaker 4: story like yeah, which I'm sure we'll talk about, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: like the same thing. I went to a publisher and

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Speaker 4: your book was around half and the same thing. I

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Speaker 4: got given one because I was like, you have to

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Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, it's so.

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Speaker 2: Funny when I say that about you, I could never

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Speaker 2: imagine someone having my I don't know, I never seen myself.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you've probably got similar personality. I never

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Speaker 2: seen myself as like having made it. No, and so

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Speaker 3: The same same.

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Speaker 4: I know, it's still surreal, like walking past the shop

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Speaker 4: but that's another person sometimes, you know as well.

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Speaker 2: I remember, because my book's been out for yonkers now

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, oh you gee, we.

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Speaker 2: So someone's bought it, got over it, handed it to

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Speaker 2: an op shop.

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Speaker 3: Coubling moment, I guess.

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Speaker 4: You'd say, yep, yep, that's very hupply. Yeah. Anyway, so good.

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Speaker 2: I wrote to you probably a few weeks ago now

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Speaker 2: and said, let's jump on the pod, and I said

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Speaker 2: it's about failure, and You're like.

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Speaker 3: Mate, where do we I got?

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Speaker 1: So it's a stray where you're like, boom, boom boom.

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Speaker 2: I've got so many things I can talk about, but

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Speaker 2: I kind of want to start at.

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Speaker 3: The start a bit.

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Speaker 2: So I read when you finished school you were kind

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Speaker 2: of like, I love fashion, but also I love like

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Speaker 3: Nutrition and food.

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Speaker 2: Is that kind of where it I guess the bubbling

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, Well, I'm definitely found out over

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Speaker 4: I was really hands on and stuff and did textiles

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Speaker 3: Kind of a bit of an any many money most situation.

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Speaker 5: When I was in England, Yeah, when you were in England,

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Speaker 4: Amazing, amazing, but wow, it was so tough, like one

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Speaker 4: And it was an interesting year and it definitely taught

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Speaker 2: It takes a long time to realize you can work

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Speaker 2: Cotswold's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I'm amazing, amazing like Princess and used to ride past

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Speaker 2: Look And for people that are going Cotswolds, what Google

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Speaker 4: Yeah Google Postman pac Country like imagine post and part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a it feels like there's just wisdom

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Speaker 4: So you went traveling before that, right, Yeah, So I traveled,

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Speaker 4: even though, like there's wonderful there's absolutely wonderful people and

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Speaker 4: I sort of got cracked a bit and moved back

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Speaker 4: to my parents and had a bit of a quarter

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Speaker 4: life crisis at twenty five Classic and went traveling and

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Speaker 4: Spain and walked to the Camino de Santiago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I read about this on your website.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was epic, but so funny, like I walked

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Speaker 4: with all sorts of random.

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Speaker 2: if you do the Classic way, it's like a month

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Speaker 2: I did it in twenty days because I was trying

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Speaker 3: Walking with these two.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have done it by myself, but I met

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a really good like foundation to have,

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Speaker 2: Yes, So can you tell me about the Caravan because

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Speaker 4: She's just amazing light and capturing an energy and in

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Speaker 3: Your whole so grounding energy. Yeah. Ye, back to caravan, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Little date with you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so the caravan. Yeah, so originally I was

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Speaker 4: and did all the relative council stuff and then I

445
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 4: was like, you know, like are we doing this?

446
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 3: So we just yeah, I didn't realize how quickly he

447
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 3: could do it.

448
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 4: And we opened it the day after we finished painting it,

449
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 4: like we drove it there that night and I taught

450
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 4: him how to make a smoothie and we came back

451
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 4: in the morning and opened it and three friends were

452
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 4: there and then we did sadie what for the rest

453
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 4: of the day.

454
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: That's amazing, though, Yeah, people need to know. That's what

455
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: I love that you said that, because like you need

456
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: people to think. Even with public speaking, they're like, oh,

457
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: you know, it must be big or in something I

458
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 2: might Sometimes you're at a library and you're speaking to

459
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 2: five six people even though it's been promoted.

460
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 4: And definitely everyone the other day at a bookshop that

461
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 4: there was like six people.

462
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I knew all of them.

463
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

464
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: I've done book signings before and You're like, I've done

465
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: book signings where I'm like, well, do you want me

466
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 2: to sit here and sign the stock? So you've got

467
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: stock signed and they're like yeah, okay, sorry, and I'm

468
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: like noah, man, Like I'm.

469
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: So used to it. There's so many factors to it.

470
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 4: It's like it was raining or like keep you humble too, Yeah,

471
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah, and then then it's a good

472
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 4: opportunity for better like more of a chat with those people.

473
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: Well, and this is where I wanted to even talk

474
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: about why they're not why but like how the caravan

475
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 2: came to close, because I know with Happy Place, it

476
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: was so the first day it was so busy.

477
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: Lying around the corner of something might really.

478
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: Busy the first day.

479
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: But what we hadn't factored in for is that Melbourne

480
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: is like Siberia in winter time, and no one wants

481
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: a smoothie in the winter. So every winter with all

482
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: us owners would end up flow it. So that means

483
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: like putting money in to keep it alive basically, and

484
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: it'd be dead like some days you'd have five sales,

485
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: like it was bleeding in the winter money. And I

486
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: didn't expect And my ego was like, oh, like really, you.

487
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 3: Know, it's tough.

488
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so we just said there was a really

489
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: great opportunity to sell one summer and I and it

490
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: was hard because summer it flies, yeah, And I thought, no,

491
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to be sad a get in the

492
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: winter like floating this thing.

493
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 4: And you forget in summer because it's back to busy market.

494
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: You know, I'm serving so many people. They love it,

495
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 4: so like yeah.

496
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess I wanted. And people often say

497
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: to me like, oh, did was it a failure? And

498
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, technically yeah, but on another level no, Like

499
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: and the moment we sold it was like the most

500
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: beautiful for me. It was the biggest lesson in letting

501
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: go in business in a really positive way because it

502
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: was a really positive outcome for all of.

503
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: Us selling it.

504
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: And I remember when we sold it, I had thirty

505
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: five kilo crystal in their clear courts crystal, and I

506
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: remember picking the because I wrote in the selling terms,

507
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: I get to keep the crystal.

508
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: Because I was like this baby.

509
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: I'd picked properly and I'd gone out and I bought it,

510
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 2: and I remember picking the crystal up being like I've

511
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: still got a little piece of happiness.

512
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're the same.

513
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 4: I've still got the side the caravan, but like not

514
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: the business, just the caravan, but the same thing. Although

515
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 4: we did close for every winter, but it was just

516
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 4: as hard like that we had to then find something

517
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 4: else to do. Like I was stopping what he was doing,

518
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: and he's such a talented person in what he does,

519
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 4: and he would like have to stop his building and

520
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 4: design for six months to help me and make smoothies.

521
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 4: He was awesome at it and everything, but it sort

522
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: of paused his career in a way, and I was

523
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: starting to feel really guilty about that. And also it

524
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 4: was it's a very big pay cut, like just making smoothies.

525
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: For me for free.

526
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And so it did get It was the

527
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 4: same thing for us where it was I just couldn't

528
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: let go of the quality control either, Like I wasn't

529
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 4: gonna cut put so much goodness into it. It's the

530
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: best quality, like Australian grown organic. And I was like,

531
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: it's not worth it if I have to make this

532
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 4: financially viable, so we just have to stop it.

533
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: So that's the exact same situation in the Happy Place.

534
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: One of my business partners said, why are we getting

535
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: organic Byron Bay Macadamian arts that cost a million schoolion

536
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: dollars a kilo when we can just get cheap like

537
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: another nut that's cheap. And also why are we using

538
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: maple syrup when we could use a Gabe.

539
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, we're not.

540
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gabe, yeah, you.

541
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 4: Know, because but that's where you get that, you get

542
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 4: the moral questions of like a business brain says that,

543
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 4: but your heart says something else. And I've just found

544
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: I always have to follow my heart or just get

545
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 4: that sick feeling and there's no you almost have no

546
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: choice in a way.

547
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: And also look at the magic that the caravan brought you,

548
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: like this beautiful book that you have and like someone

549
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: for me that never got to experience the caravan, but

550
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: I do get to through the ball, you know. I

551
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 2: think that's good things come from it is what I'm

552
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: kind of getting.

553
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: At That's why I love that quote. That's Steve Jobs quote.

554
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 4: You can't connect the dots for but you can connect

555
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 4: them backwards. Because I look back now I'm thirty turning

556
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: thirty four soon, I feel.

557
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: Like I'm the same, so weird.

558
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: I feel like I can really look back and go, oh,

559
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: that happened because of that, and that no time is

560
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: ever wasted.

561
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: And I learned that when I did.

562
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: Really yeah, and there's something really freeing for people listening,

563
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: like if you've got this project in your heart, setting

564
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: one thing, but then like it's not viable from a

565
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: business perspective at the moment. There's something really freeing when

566
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: you really like have the courage to let go.

567
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 3: Yes totally because if you.

568
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: Like that again the Steve Jobs thing, look at all

569
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: that other stuff. And also now you've got whole and

570
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 2: which is the second book, and now you're working on

571
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: a third book to come out in November.

572
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 3: Yep.

573
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: If you need a recipe testa you just you just

574
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: on our coffee day, maybe you can do some recipe testing.

575
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: And that's like another thing where it's a little bit

576
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 4: of a I'm putting myself out on a limb again,

577
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: Like I always do, and I've I think I've built

578
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: confidence around that in the last fifteen years because it's

579
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 4: not all food and it's like, oh cool res like

580
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: sustainable cleaning and like all the recipes for make your

581
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: own everything, body everything for the home body and cleaning.

582
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: I knew you were really into eco life. I knew

583
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: I actually made you a little pressy pack and it's

584
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: all echo. I think it's all stuff you're gonna love, hopefully.

585
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: But I digress, Matt, and I said, in a treehouse

586
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: Airbnb treehouse in Byron Bay, and it was all echo

587
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: like to the point that the host had made own

588
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: cleaning products, own shampoo, own drop toilet as well, which

589
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: Matt had never experienced before. But really like schmick beautiful

590
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: treehouse but with this and it was a very Schmick though,

591
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: like a drop, a very long drop, that's the way.

592
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'll have to send you the details. I

593
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: think you'd love seeing my hammic very.

594
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: Natural Harry styles.

595
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, very so. One of my big regrets.

596
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: We have a mutual friend Karina Duncan and you you

597
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: went to school with Oliver as well. Yeah, they've created

598
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: this wonderful co working space. Is it in Newtown. It

599
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: is easter Long com Town. It says it's Newtown on

600
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: the address.

601
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, thank you.

602
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: But it's called the CO.

603
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: So if anyone in that area needs a great co

604
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: working space, shout out to the CO because they are wonderful. Girl.

605
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

606
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of the next book was written in there,

607
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: like I mean, like edited and whatever. Like I was

608
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: so productive just because you're working from home.

609
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: I was seeing if you're going there and working and musing, oh,

610
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: I'm living down here.

611
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh you should. It's amazing.

612
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Can you just get day passes?

613
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: You can, can't you?

614
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

615
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah.

616
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got a I just got like a

617
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: thirty visit thing. I was like, and it kind of

618
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: helped me accountable. I was like, I'm going to come

619
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 4: here every Friday and sit and work and someone else

620
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: will be there doing like at a distance from you,

621
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 4: working and you're just like, yeah, because they're working.

622
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: Ah. I've got this friend, this wonderful friend in Sydney

623
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: called jane Neglynd who she's just one of my best

624
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: kind of like you know when you got those friends

625
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: that are your cheerleaders, She's one of them. And every

626
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: time I work from her place. She's always like, just

627
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: come to my place and work. She's like, you get

628
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: two weeks of work done in two hours, because she

629
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: is just such a little go getter. Yeah, and in

630
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: her office she's got three clocks and it's like Australia

631
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: time or Sydney time, La time, New York time, and yeah.

632
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: Such a and I'll be like, I get so much.

633
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Done and yeah, so I'm pumped. I'm gonna check out

634
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: that space. But every time i'd go to the Coke

635
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: because we shot Lola Coffee campaign there, Karine would always say, Lola,

636
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna get down to Natural Harry. She's like, you're

637
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: gonna they've got yoga where you're gonna lose your bananas.

638
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: And I'd always say to Matt Boss, We've got to

639
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: go because we'd always go to Born and Bred as well.

640
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: Do you know that. Yeah, I'm like, I need to

641
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: get to Natural Harry. And it's my biggest regret.

642
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: I didn't ever get there while you were opened.

643
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: So you had a concert that was a very roundabout

644
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: way of getting to You had a concept story for.

645
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: Two years from Yeah, all of twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen.

646
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: You shut after a round Chrissy the day of Christmas Eve.

647
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: We shut just this last year. And yeah, it wasn't

648
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 4: It didn't mean to be just two years. It was

649
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: meant to be like, well, the lease was for seven

650
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: and a half or like the full lease was seven

651
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 4: and a half.

652
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: And that was me trying to bring in the like all.

653
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: My knowledge about fashion design and I've managed retail stores

654
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: and stuff in the past, and wanting to just like

655
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: bring people's attention to some really amazing brands and yeah, and.

656
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: Really that kind of like ethical sustainable message as well, right, Yeah,

657
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: and so that went for two years. Then yeah, how

658
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: you said, yea, so what made you want to end

659
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: that journey.

660
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: So basically, well, similar kind of problems to the caravan.

661
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: I really have to be really honest. I don't think

662
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: any I've ever told anyone this, But most of the

663
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 4: reason was because I'm just always working on every time

664
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: I go to like the acupuncturist or anything or something

665
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: to do with like my heart being too open. And

666
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: I was there every day kind of on a platter

667
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: for everyone, which is amazing in so many circumstances. But

668
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: I was just I'm not a counselor, but I had

669
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: just I seem to attract. Maybe it's the books and

670
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: things people would come in for and like kind of

671
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: offload everything and like that's great. I really wanted to help,

672
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: but also I wasn't protecting my own like mental health

673
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: at the same time, and I just take on everything

674
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 4: like I did everything.

675
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: I'd try and learn.

676
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: I'd have a shower afterword to try and like wash

677
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: it away because I just felt like I couldn't serve

678
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: anyone if I was depleted from doing that. But also

679
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: I was there to I had to pay the rent,

680
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: I have to sell things, but I was just like

681
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: counseling people leave and then had some amazing supportive legends

682
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: who were there to buy things too. But I just, yeah,

683
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: I can't not give in that way. And I've had

684
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 4: to like learn a few boundaries to be able to

685
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 4: serve people or I will not be there to.

686
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad you said that.

687
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: So this is where I always I used to practice

688
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: as a nutritionist and I would find so one of

689
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: my teachers told me, it's where you get psychically hooked,

690
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: and so you'll be like opening your heart taking on

691
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: the energy. And it's been really beautiful, nourishing conversation and

692
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: beholding space this person, and then you'll kind of get

693
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: home and be like, I feel really shit, even though

694
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: it was a beautiful exchange and a great experience.

695
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: Totally.

696
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what's so important to say. It will be

697
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 4: a lovely experience and you feel great for helping or

698
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: holding that space.

699
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: Definitely, but it kind of ends up coming at a

700
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: cost to you on an energetic kind of level.

701
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: Is that what you're kind of getting's.

702
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 4: Got to be some kind of connect like energy connection happening.

703
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's not an even exchange, like certain sometimes

704
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 4: someone will come in and just tell me, just re

705
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: tell me all of the news that they'd watched that

706
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: morning or something, and sometimes that would just like feel

707
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 4: like it was an exchange one way, they'd just dumped

708
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: and left. And then sometimes it would be an amazing

709
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: chat and I would feel energized from it, but like

710
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: overall I felt like I was just like open, and

711
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 4: I don't still don't really know, to be honest, how

712
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: to help that and how to protect that heart space.

713
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: As you were saying that, I was like, oh, she's

714
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: a healer, like you're probably that's probably even through your books,

715
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: You're through the caravan absolutely through the shop, but also

716
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: through your own lines of fashion and whatnot. It probably

717
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: nourishes people and heals them on air.

718
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: This is getting quite hippy and.

719
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: I love it, but you're probably healing people on it.

720
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: What's your star sign?

721
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: I am two minutes into Leo from cancer, so I'm

722
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: like bang on the cast twelve two.

723
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so sensitive.

724
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: You've got the sensitivity of Kansian and then the Leo

725
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: would be like this willingness to put yourself out there

726
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 2: in a way.

727
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 3: So I'm torn all the time.

728
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm an introvert, but I'm like that, go

729
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: back into my cribshell.

730
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

731
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: I get on so well with Leo girls for some reason,

732
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: yecause I love that I'm virgo through and through.

733
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, but I feel like you're also a real

734
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: m path, Like you have the same kind of thing

735
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 4: like the energy exchange or open when you talk to you.

736
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 2: That's why I imagine when you did make the call

737
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: with both the concepts or on the caravan. I don't

738
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: know about you, but when I'd made the call to

739
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: sell Happy Place and my business partners were five businessmen

740
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: like businessmen, Yeah, I just broke out and cried when

741
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: we'd all made when they initially said, hey, it's not

742
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 2: you know, like let's make the call, and I said,

743
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: give me two weeks.

744
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: Because I knew.

745
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: I went straight to my therapist.

746
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I have to process is I can't

747
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: make a choice out of emotion and like from the

748
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: heart space is gray as the heart space is like

749
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: in business, use it for your intuition, but you also

750
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: need to I don't know, you need to like let

751
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: that settle in order to make a clear choice.

752
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: Do you think it totally? That is the skill. That

753
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: is what I'm always trying to work out. It's the

754
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: balance between the head and the heart. And I feel

755
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: really gifted with the intuition, like so lucky if you

756
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: are that open person because you can kind of feel

757
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 4: things out, see where something's going.

758
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: It gives you the creativity.

759
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 4: But then you have to bring in that and that

760
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: like you know, that's your way, it was your heart

761
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: in it, so of course you're going to break down.

762
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah it's and this is the cool thing. And this

763
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: is where I don't know if you know this. I'm

764
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: really passionate about mental health. So I see my therapist

765
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: for business, I'll be like I've got this business plan.

766
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: I want to sit down with you, and he's like,

767
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: this is strong. This is like before the coffee even launched.

768
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: My therapist saw that business plan before we even like

769
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: actually put it into practice.

770
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: And I think that like for you as well.

771
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: I think having the open heart is quite magical, So

772
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: like keep it in my feet.

773
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's superpower.

774
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: But one thing that's really you've totally made me realize.

775
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: In acting school, we've got a teacher that teaches us

776
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: there's basically an acting world.

777
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know this until I started studying.

778
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: There's heaps of different like techniques, basically different schools of thought.

779
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: One one teacher will teach you one school I thought,

780
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: and another one will teach you another. And we were

781
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: doing this one class where the teacher said, do you

782
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: think you live from the head, the heart, or the gut?

783
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: And I straight away was like.

784
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: Heart and this you know a lot of people were head,

785
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: so it was like split between head and head and gut.

786
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: And she said and and like analytical people were head,

787
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: they're like emotive people were heart, and she goes, the

788
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: best place to actually live is gut is impulse like

789
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: intuition because you're not. It's not a motive and it's

790
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: not analytical. It's like an in built intuition.

791
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: That's so interesting because I get really kind of confused

792
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: when I try and tap into my intuition. I get

793
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: confused between the gut and the heart.

794
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: Time same with me.

795
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: You're like, is it a gut reaction or am I

796
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: feeling it?

797
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? From the heart? I know, right, I found.

798
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: I was kind of shocked when she said that, but

799
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, when you get a feeling

800
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: and you kind.

801
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: Of I'm like, oh, I've got that feeling like physical

802
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 4: in your body gut yeah.

803
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, well, I think when you think

804
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: about like caravan, the books, the store, everything, you'll notice

805
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: that it probably starts like you've got the head, you've

806
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: got the heart, but then the gut will come in

807
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: as well as three pronged.

808
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: Yes, totally.

809
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: And I think, like, you know, the external factor and

810
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: what people say really affects me and I people will,

811
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 4: you know. The reactions to closing the caravan were mostly

812
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: like oh you know, oh, you're right, yeah, and you're

813
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: like and I took that.

814
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, no, failure, failure.

815
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: But now I look back on the three biggest failures

816
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: in adverted commas. And I'm like, well, I am really glad,

817
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 4: like it's unusual that I've changed every two years so

818
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 4: far and altered natural Harry to be a different kind

819
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: of entity. But then I'm like, I couldn't do it

820
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: any other way because I actually follow from my gut

821
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 4: or my heart, and so it does lead you in

822
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: some random Do you.

823
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: Notice that I remember distinctively, you know how you just

824
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: mentioned about the caravan and people like, are you okay?

825
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: I got that with Happy Place, did you.

826
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

827
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: Eight out of ten.

828
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: People would be like, oh, it's everything okay, And then

829
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: there was two people basically out of out of ten

830
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: that would be.

831
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, how exciting.

832
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 4: Yes, And it was so interesting when I'd announced the

833
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 4: shop was closing and having that direct just like when

834
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: the caravan was closing. We kind of we shut the

835
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: caravan after our last day on the block for that year,

836
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 4: so I didn't experience as much of it in person,

837
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 4: but in the shop I did, and people knew it

838
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: was coming, and I had exactly the same ratio. That's

839
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: so crazy, like and the people who were like the cheerleaders,

840
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, my god, I'd be like

841
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: hang on, wait here for a second, like thank you

842
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 4: so much. And it's so just yeah, such a different reaction.

843
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: Because you have to take risks, you have to do

844
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: the scary thing.

845
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: And if you think about the people that were like

846
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: this is exciting, you will remember they're they're the business

847
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: successful people.

848
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: Usually in my life.

849
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's really interesting, like risk comes with success

850
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: like the hand in hand.

851
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: You've got to go for the risk failure.

852
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they say the most successful people look for

853
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: failure and enjoy it.

854
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I do.

855
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 4: Now, Like I look back and I think I think

856
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: like one of the blessings that comes with time is

857
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 4: that you realize when you failed, you don't die like

858
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: you know, like something's happened, and you're like, actually, I

859
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: can go and risk a bit more next time because

860
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 4: that happened, you know, like the shorts didn't work out,

861
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: but I'm still here and I'm still doing something else,

862
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 4: and it's like proof you keep getting.

863
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

864
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 2: I want to quickly talk because I know this this

865
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 2: pod will come out. We're recording ahead of time for you,

866
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: because I was like I've got.

867
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: To snapper off a little bit talking.

868
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: When you bring the next book out in November. You

869
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: mentioned that that is more of a lifestyle book as

870
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: opposed to just is that correct.

871
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: It's only recipes, Like I don't bang on too much

872
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: about anything.

873
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: Really.

874
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: There's a little bit of like the tips like there

875
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: are and the other two, but it's mostly just like

876
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: pay you know, recipe and photo and like just like

877
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: the others. But that's what I just wanted it to

878
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: be really simple and just really simplify that stuff because

879
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: it's quite daunting to people, like how do I make

880
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: my own bench? Like you know, shampoo or shampoo? Yeah, yeah,

881
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: one of my most proudest. It's got lovely looks when

882
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 4: the liquid, but it's really works really well and they're really.

883
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: Easy to be. The cell line yeah, don't worry.

884
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: It's poor plored, but that works well.

885
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I should but they're like also, one

886
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: of the things I'm asked the most is to show

887
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: more of our house, and so the imagery is really home.

888
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 4: Like I can't tell you the title look, but it's

889
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 4: very much based on the home and our house and.

890
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: Visually so beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, it's exciting.

891
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: It's you're getting me excited for tea date we're going

892
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: to have to at your place. I've got to see

893
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: this patch.

894
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's scraggly.

895
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 4: That's one thing about veggie patches is that they go

896
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: through periods of looking amazing and then really bad and

897
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 4: then amazing.

898
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Do you know the best veggie patch I've ever been to?

899
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 2: And you should put this on your bucket list. There's

900
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: a retreat in just out of Byron Bay called Gaya.

901
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 3: Oh I've heard of it.

902
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got the most incredible veggie patch. Do they

903
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: cook everything from most is on signe. Stuff that's not

904
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: on site is like local. They'll be like this is

905
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: these macadamis are.

906
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: From Mullumbim Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you lose.

907
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: Your marbles like Matt and I we've been there together.

908
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: Kind of Gaya and they've got even the tea that

909
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: you have as like housemade their own high biscuits and

910
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: lemon grass.

911
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: It's nourishing.

912
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: So put it on your bucket list because yeah, you

913
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: would love that, but you get as when you stay there.

914
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: The horticulturist teaches you how to like have some graw

915
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: your own timmeriyer, and then that night you'll have some

916
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: some of that ginger and tchimeric in your meal.

917
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 3: Amazing. Oh yeah, it's so good. Oh my god, that's

918
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: my dream.

919
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 4: I feel like I do a bit of that, like

920
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 4: Fred and I go out to the veggie Patchop.

921
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit to your dream, like,

922
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: and I know you just mentioned it changes every two

923
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: years or so, but like what happens if we fast

924
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 2: forward natural Harry five years from now, Like how could

925
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: that feel or look?

926
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: Oh that's such an interesting question.

927
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 4: I was actually thinking about that on the drive over here,

928
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 4: because I feel like I all my learn Like I'm

929
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 4: constantly trying to learn. I'm always doing a course or

930
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 4: listening to something, and I feel like there's the I'm

931
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: told in these courses and things to have a goal,

932
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 4: but I don't really have like an ultimate goal.

933
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: I think I more think about a feeling all the time,

934
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: So always bring it back to a feeling.

935
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

936
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: Ways, so I guess like I'm really loving the books

937
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 4: and that side of things, and I think I would

938
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 4: I would really like to live like somewhere a bit warmer.

939
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: We both said before we're like and I was like,

940
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: my dreams live in a treahouse And Byron made have

941
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: a treat and you're like I.

942
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: Think our dream yeah, are really similar.

943
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 4: But I mean I guess the dream is just to

944
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: be serving people in some way and be in a

945
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: space where I can kind of have a nice balance

946
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: of life. Like it is a more it's kind of

947
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 4: more unnesoteric idea than like.

948
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: A well, it's an idea and a feeling like you just.

949
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: Said, yeah, yeah, yeah, And would a goal for you

950
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: be just because I've dived deep you might have seen.

951
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: I was like, you know when you dive deep s

952
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: talking to on Instagram and you accidently like a photo

953
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: I did that to you this morning.

954
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: Old twenty twelve or something.

955
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And then I was like, oh, well I'm

956
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: here now. Yeah, but is there a goal for you

957
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: to kind of like live off the land eventually? I

958
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: mean you sounds like you kind of do that.

959
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

960
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: We substitute some of our food at the moment, and

961
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: so many people ask me do you grow everything you eat?

962
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: And like it's a full time job to do that.

963
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: And so that would be an ultimate goal to be

964
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 4: able to live off the land completely. And that other

965
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 4: is a dream, like it's something.

966
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: You would love.

967
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: Have you heard of this way of life? No?

968
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to lose your It's on YouTube, so

969
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: watch it tonight.

970
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

971
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: Basically there's a it's about a Sorry I completely cut

972
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: you off and I was like, I don't say this, doctor. Yeah,

973
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: it's it's about a horse whisperer that lives in like

974
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: New Zealand, off the land with his family. They've got

975
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: like eight kids literally and basically at the very start

976
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: on the trailer, they go what do you do for

977
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: a living?

978
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: And he goes, what I live for a living?

979
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Ah, but they live off the land, off the grid.

980
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, and they show the hardships of trying to

981
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: live that way.

982
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: That's a speaking of documentaries, I was telling you before

983
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: we started this about big Little Farm, a similar kind

984
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: of thing, and it does show the hardships, and I

985
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: think that's really important because a lot of like that's

986
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: why things like this I think are so important. Podcasts

987
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 4: and especially yours that's really transparent and open. Is that

988
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 4: like Instagram and things we all know is a highlights

989
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: reel and stuff and can look really you know, perfect

990
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 4: and ideal and you're just out, you know, in your

991
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: veggie garden with your like beautiful like flowy skirt on it,

992
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: but there are you know, there is like some hardship

993
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: to trying to do that kind of thing, but the

994
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: satisfaction comes from that. Yes.

995
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again the feeling like there's a feeling you

996
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: get in your heart when you're living true and to

997
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: your innate calling. In yoga, we call it dama. Have

998
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: you trained in yoga?

999
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did my teacher training did two years ago.

1000
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was watching you on instag doing handstand

1001
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: practice a few days ago.

1002
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 3: Do you know how many people like gave me advice? Correct?

1003
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: I was like, I feel like such a bad like well,

1004
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: I actually was going for a walk and a couple

1005
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 4: of people stopped me and were like, Harry, you just

1006
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 4: need Like I hadn't met them. You just need, you see,

1007
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 4: to have your hands together. Look, I have got no

1008
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: core strength. I'm just like a jelly wobbly like noodle person.

1009
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 4: And but it's fun to play too.

1010
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1011
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I will say you do have to know

1012
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: a little bit like I definitely needed to take some

1013
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 4: of that advice before I started, because you can't. As

1014
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: a teacher, you can see what someone else is doing,

1015
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 4: but when you're practicing it, you don't. You're I know

1016
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: what you look like, you're that student, and you're always

1017
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 4: student in yoga. But I like, I did something to

1018
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 4: my gride was like flinging up with one leg trying

1019
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 4: to do or have some like all the things I

1020
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: know in my head, I'm hearing the lady that taught me, like,

1021
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 4: but still doing the thing.

1022
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: I saw actually a quote on your page when I

1023
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: was deep diving and you said the yoga is done

1024
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: off the mat.

1025
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, the real yoga can't be seen something like that. Yeah,

1026
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: that was like my biggest learning from my teacher training. Yeah,

1027
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 4: because with Instagram and things and the popularity of the

1028
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: resurgence of it, it's like, of course Instagram is visual.

1029
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: How do you get away from that?

1030
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 4: Like there are amazing Fallerina looking girls doing the splits

1031
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 4: and putting their toes on the back of their head

1032
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: in a handstand, like that's fabulous. But I do think

1033
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: that like any conversations I've had with anyone who wants

1034
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: to do it and hasn't will say what if I'm

1035
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: not good, or like I can't do yoga, and it's like, no,

1036
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: you can if you're just sitting closure as you're doing yoga,

1037
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: like it's not Yeah.

1038
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: I think even the way you describe it living from

1039
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: your heart and having that open heart. To me, that's

1040
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 2: like vulnerability and being brave.

1041
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 3: To me, that is also yoga.

1042
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: Yes, but I love I love the physical aspect of yoga,

1043
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 4: Like I am. I really struggle to meditate and sit

1044
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: something I've tried over the years so much, and swimming

1045
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: is more my meditation. But I love the physical aspect

1046
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 4: of how you can open your hips and that releases emotions,

1047
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: and that's the stuff I just like find really juicy,

1048
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: and the opening heart and how you can have a

1049
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 4: reaction in yoga to like you can start crying because

1050
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 4: you've done a heart opener and things that boggles me,

1051
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: like the thasha holding emotions and stuff just boggles.

1052
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1053
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: Especially yeah, you love yoga, and yeah, if you can

1054
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: do yin, I don't. I think there's a big path

1055
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: for people listening that are like what's yin? You hold

1056
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: the poses for much longer because we're working on your fashion. Yeah,

1057
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: tender and less less muscular like vinyasa. But I think

1058
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: if that's your meditation, that's very meditative, that's yeah, you know,

1059
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I find it very hard to sit

1060
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: and do avantra for twenty minutes morning and night. So

1061
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: for me nature like you, but Yin really Yin yoga

1062
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: really kind of ticks that bot.

1063
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: And sitting with the uncomfort and learning. Probably the biggest

1064
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: learning I've had about meditation is that it isn't trying

1065
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: to blank your mind and it is just the process

1066
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: of just being just connecting with your body.

1067
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: Really, that's all.

1068
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's almost like being okay with the thoughts

1069
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: and seeing them and noticing that they're there and then

1070
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: surrench the marti Yeah right, I know, right, levitating.

1071
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can't believe how fast is Ask you

1072
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 4: one more thing.

1073
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: You're so good at TikTok?

1074
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: Oh, so you you said me best, you said me

1075
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: the best ones.

1076
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: Just Crystally have his own TikTok too?

1077
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: Oh all that all of his like sounds.

1078
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: He probably does. He's got a really good Instagram. Is

1079
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 4: a funny man.

1080
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I did a Crystally TikTok. Did you

1081
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: do it too?

1082
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: You did? Yes? Yeah, the the mum one. Yeah.

1083
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: I actually met him one day, like when I was

1084
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 4: at a music festival.

1085
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 3: Does he have a twin? Do you know it's him?

1086
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: He's really well, it's very nice.

1087
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: But I was like oh, and he was like, no,

1088
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: that's my twin, so like obviously taking the piss really.

1089
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: So then I left going, oh I just met crystally

1090
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: this twin. Yeah, let's find out.

1091
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: We've got to google visit podcast I love listening to.

1092
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: It's called Armchair Expert with a Stack Shepherd and they

1093
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: do a fact check at the end and do and

1094
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: check all the stuff. So I'll do a check. I'll

1095
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: do a check if he has as find out. Thank

1096
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: you so much, one thank you bit. If just to

1097
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: end on, like if people are listening this and be like,

1098
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'd love to do that. I'd love

1099
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: to like set up a little caravan. I'd love to

1100
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: write books, or I just love to have my own

1101
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: veggie patch. Whatever it is, Like, what's your advice for

1102
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: someone just to bring a little bit more apart from

1103
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: getting the Lazybones loaf, which I'm obsessed with. Look up

1104
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: Lazybones Loaves after this guy is literally just on your website, right, Yeah, yeah,

1105
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: you just add water, a pinch of if we don't

1106
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: use maple. Sometimes when we're doing the savory when we

1107
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: add a tiny bit of olive oil.

1108
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to hut Yeah, it's like it

1109
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 4: sort of choose your own adventure.

1110
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we do an olive and Oliven wrote basically,

1111
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: it's this loaf mix and all you need to add

1112
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: pretty much is water water. But we'll either go sweet

1113
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: or savory. And like the favorite at the moment is

1114
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: we've gone down. We've done like three fruit loaves, but

1115
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: but the olive and rosemary savory.

1116
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: That's my favorite bit of aver.

1117
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: Is that.

1118
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: Then, like I made one the other day and I

1119
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: was like, I just really feel like peanut butter and honey,

1120
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 4: and I had it on the olive bone. It was

1121
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 4: actually quite well. It's still work to find actually us lads.

1122
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 4: Isolation has been amazing for that and not going to

1123
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: the shops. The other day, I had peanut butter and

1124
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 4: tomato and toast. It's really good because it was all

1125
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: I had, but like it was actually amazing.

1126
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: Saltiness.

1127
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, a bit of cocon under my nose, you know,

1128
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: risky behavior, but it would hey, the risks pay off?

1129
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, so what so Yeah, for people listening.

1130
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: That want like that little kind of like gem of

1131
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: wisdom from you, what would your advice be if people

1132
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: just were like, how do I live?

1133
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: More wholesome or how do I trace a dream? Very

1134
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: loaded question, I feel, but.

1135
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 4: I think I think following your instincts it would be

1136
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: and just be you stick to your own path, like

1137
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 4: put the blinkers on. You don't need to be anyone

1138
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: else because and you're not going to be liked by everyone,

1139
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: and like just being comfortable with that and keeping in

1140
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: your own sort of, yeah, staying in your own lane

1141
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: because everyone needs whatever you've got to offer in your

1142
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 4: uni way. Yeah, and they'll always be someone and some

1143
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 4: people who love it and need the wisdom.

1144
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 3: Everyone has some wisdom to share.

1145
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: Do you know?

1146
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: That's my man Tore?

1147
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: Anytime I stress out, and because it's Instagram so easy

1148
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: to get be like why is that person got that

1149
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: job and not like me?

1150
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: And why is that?

1151
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: Like? And I'm just like, put your blinkers onola, like

1152
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: totally you don't know the full story that either.

1153
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: And there's so many variables, yes, Like so many people

1154
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: would come to the caravan and say one girl used

1155
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 4: to come very often with her boyfriend.

1156
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: And say, oh, you're so lucky. You're so lucky, and

1157
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: be like, hey, Jimmy, build me a caravan. You're so lucky.

1158
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, so many things had to

1159
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: line up this.

1160
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 4: He's done a carpentry apprenticeship and then became a carpenter,

1161
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 4: and I'm living with my parents so we can afford

1162
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 4: to do this, and like there's so many different little

1163
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 4: variables and things, and it's just like you don't know

1164
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 4: what anyone.

1165
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: Else's story is.

1166
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: You're so right, like, yeah, yeah, that's why it's really

1167
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 4: important to stay in your.

1168
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: Own stay in your own life.

1169
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1170
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 3: And then that fits with the swimming too, Yeah, yeah,

1171
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: can you clearly did you do you really swim with

1172
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: sting rights on the red Yeah? Yeah, it's so weird.

1173
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: You're probably the same.

1174
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: I just like get attracted to something I'm quite fearful of.

1175
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: Like I've always been terrified of ship hulls, like the

1176
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: bottom of a ship. And like I swam a lot

1177
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 4: in Point Lonsdale with a group of girls and you

1178
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 4: pretty much turn your head every single stroke and are

1179
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 4: looking at a big ship somewhere like in the distance.

1180
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: That freaks like Titanic, Oh my god, give me hebbs.

1181
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 4: And there's like little boats in the bar and heads

1182
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: river where we swim, and that freaks me out.

1183
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: And stingrays freak me out. I don't know, I can't.

1184
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1185
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: You're gonna love this. So I love doing I'm obsessed

1186
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: with Orkaway.

1187
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: I was like, they're my Toto.

1188
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 5: Man.

1189
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: I watched the Blackfish documentary after you suggested it in amazing.

1190
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: So people say, yeah, I was gonna say a lot

1191
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: of people say I don't want to see something negative,

1192
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, it's so evoking and it evokes

1193
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: something and it's empowering and look how much change has

1194
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: come as a result.

1195
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: Totally, it's illegal to now breed. Sometimes I have.

1196
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 4: To look at the uncomfortable thing. It's like with with

1197
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 4: working on your mental health, You've got to look at

1198
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: the uncomfortable thing to yeah, to deal with it one

1199
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Speaker 4: hundred percent.

1200
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: Where's going?

1201
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 2: Oh so I always so I swam with whale sharks

1202
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: and the Maldives and where I swum because the boat

1203
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: so basically you're not meant to take proper propeller like

1204
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: the motorized boats out there because it clicks their fins.

1205
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: So just like wind powered, you're allowed to.

1206
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 2: Take wood like a wooden So our boat had some

1207
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: kind of like wooden something or this makes sense to

1208
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: you Yeah, yeah, as opposed to so apparently based on

1209
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: wooden propeller.

1210
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: Well would well, because when the whale sharks.

1211
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: Come up to you don't want to bad.

1212
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: So anyway, basically, I'm going about this in a very

1213
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: roundabout way, but I've.

1214
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 3: Got the actions going on. It's like I'm going round about.

1215
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: The host was like our boat is good because of

1216
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: the or the propellers are high or something that doesn't

1217
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 2: click there. Yeah, right, So the whale sharks, there's a

1218
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: big thing like whale sharks fins get clipped by coming

1219
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: up too high and the boats get them.

1220
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: Are such gentle giants.

1221
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: They're like the golden retriever of the ocean. But anytime

1222
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: I do something like in Hawaii, I swe with giant

1223
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: green sea turtles and I'll always research the local sharks.

1224
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 4: Oh I looked up do you know Stingrayser related to sharks.

1225
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: I've gone deep on learning about them because I'm like

1226
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 4: if I'm going to accidentally touch one with my tummy again.

1227
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: I do love about these guys. They related to sharks,

1228
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: and I think, yeah they are because there was a

1229
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: shark attack in talks you know that wee yeah last week?

1230
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe true? I just forget. I think about it

1231
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 4: when I'm on the land and when I'm in the water,

1232
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 4: I forget that's a good thing. Yeah, yeah, were you

1233
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 4: in there, like you've chosen to be, so you may

1234
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: as well forget legs dangling off the board. But seriously,

1235
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: and I never watched Jaws. I feel like that's helped

1236
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 4: because definitely, like we grew up in that era of

1237
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 4: George being a thing. Yeah, and I refused, girl, good girl.

1238
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: But so my thing is I love these like swimming

1239
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: with nature, being out in nature, but I have to

1240
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: know what the local sharks are like in Hawaii. I

1241
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: was like, don't worry, a tiger shark hasn't been spotted

1242
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: in two years.

1243
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 4: Just last attack was twenty years ago. He swims that

1244
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 4: guy who got attacked. So I figure, like it's okay.

1245
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 3: Because you literally open water swim, don't you.

1246
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeap yeah that with the sting raiser in

1247
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: the bar and Heads River, there's a there's a few

1248
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: of them hanging around And I was telling him before,

1249
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 4: we've kind of named them.

1250
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 3: Nick and I have named them. So Nick and Harry

1251
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: have named them Barry and Dick.

1252
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 4: And there's one that's missing a tail, so he's like

1253
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: a boat's obviously chopped his tail off, Stumpy. I think

1254
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 4: his nickname is yeah, like the local Apparently the primary

1255
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 4: school kids learnt about him, but that makes me sad,

1256
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: like even a creature that is like quite terrifying to me.

1257
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 4: And I think think Steve one thing has caused morphia

1258
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 4: about them, even though you literally would have to get

1259
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 4: really close and on them or yeah, yeah, like fish

1260
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: over them or something. I yeah, really feel sorry for

1261
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 4: them that like both can come along and chop the

1262
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 4: stinger off.

1263
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I totally feel the same. But I

1264
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: have a obsession.

1265
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will start sending each other look at this

1266
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: shark documentary, oh man.

1267
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: Sea cows.

1268
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I just think there's anything like like someone

1269
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: needs to make some Pixar movie about an Orca.

1270
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 3: It'll just be like, oh, you know, walking along the

1271
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 3: bottom of.

1272
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: One of my dreams is because I quite have an

1273
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: obsession with Steve when he's always been a hero because

1274
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: he's I've always thought he's unapologetically shared himself to help

1275
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: animals and to help educate people, and so I've always

1276
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,479
Speaker 2: been a huge fan. And when I saw Happy Feet,

1277
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: he was the voice of one of the animals.

1278
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like life goal, I need to be

1279
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: a voice on a Pixar movie.

1280
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what, you would be amazing? So would animal?

1281
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 3: Do you ever play that game with friends? Got a

1282
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: friend that's a labrador? You know, like, what would you be?

1283
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: And I've mislodged the kangaroo from Blinky Bill specifically, you

1284
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: did say that at the start. What would I be?

1285
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: Something really like friendly? What do you feel like? What's

1286
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: his spirit at all?

1287
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: But my therapist works as he's a hypnotherapist and he

1288
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: works on he always because I like to be because

1289
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: in business I'm still too much for softy, which I

1290
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: think you can probably relate to. So he's like your

1291
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: total man. Will needs to be a jaguar, it always

1292
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: says me. He's like, start thinking like a jagony. He's like,

1293
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: they're clear, they're single focused, they don't worry about other thoughts.

1294
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 4: And he's like and also and you don't have to

1295
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 4: lose the softness either, but it's just being when you

1296
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 4: go into a situation.

1297
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know jaguar.

1298
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, Oh, I don't know if I've got it yet,

1299
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: Like you got it?

1300
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you? So much. They're awesome.

1301
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: I didn't expect us to end on talking about oceanic wildlife.

1302
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: Oh man, thank you so so much. You're wonderful guys.

1303
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: If you want to check out more of Natural Harry,

1304
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: You're on the gram, your books are in bookstores. You've

1305
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: got a wonderful website which has also got a live

1306
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: blog with I looked up a recipe and it was

1307
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: like these muff these bery muffins you'd make.

1308
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, there's so much.

1309
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: I always lean towards the sweets always, yeah, I'm a

1310
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 2: sweet yeah yeah. So please check out the blog and

1311
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: November twenty twenty there's going to be a new.

1312
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: Book, third book. Yeah girl, thank you for having me,

1313
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 3: best party ever honored to have your mate honored.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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