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Speaker 1: On today's episode with Sarah, the seventh eliminated contestant from
Speaker 1: this year's Australian Survivor on Network ten, I will be
Speaker 1: talking about her time and Samora, of course, and what
Speaker 1: she thinks now that the smoke has well and truly
Speaker 1: been snuffed out on her torch. Australian Survivor Titans Versus
Speaker 1: Rebels is a showdown that pits the winners against the
Speaker 1: underdogs and the big wigs against the battlers, with each
Speaker 1: player competing for the grand prize of half a million dollars.
Speaker 1: After cuddling up with Tobias, Sarah found herself on the
Speaker 1: minority alliance called the Cuddle Crew, which formed on the
Speaker 1: first night in the Rebels tribe. Despite continuing without the
Speaker 1: number advantage following the tribal switch, Sarah's game was given
Speaker 1: a new hope as the Titan's middle aged mafia recruited
Speaker 1: her to blindside Viola. Unfortunately for Sarah, this goodwill proved
Speaker 1: to be quite short lived. Despite Mark extending an olive
Speaker 1: branch to enlist her in his counter strike against his
Speaker 1: former alliance. The Mafia court wind of this plan and
Speaker 1: played pretty defensively for treating on their plan to do
Speaker 1: a split vote, but then decided to go all in
Speaker 1: on Sarah, outing her from the competition. Sarah will reveal
Speaker 1: what happened in that final tribal council that saw Eden
Speaker 1: spark a wildfire that saw the castaways all putting her
Speaker 1: name down. We will also talk about Tobias and why
Speaker 1: Sarah was actually happy he left the competition and what
Speaker 1: it meant to her game. Moving forward, I want to
Speaker 1: find out about Sweed. Caroline and Sarah will talk about
Speaker 1: if she is the mother hen or whether or not
Speaker 1: she is a controlling mastermind. Plus we will find out
Speaker 1: what Australian Survivor taught Sarah and why this experience has
Speaker 1: changed her life in more ways than one. There is
Speaker 1: actually so much to one pack with Sarah and she
Speaker 1: is really fun to talk to, So sit back and
Speaker 1: relax as we dive just that little bit deeper into
Speaker 1: the world of Australian Survivor. You know, I already have
Speaker 1: to apologize at this point of the chat. Because I
Speaker 1: had to bias on and I read into some chemistry
Speaker 1: between the two of you, and I was like, so
Speaker 1: did you and Sarah go out for a date And
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I have a girlfriend.
Speaker 2: He's lovely, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, We'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1: What a tribal council last night? Oh so stressed? Are
Speaker 1: you okay?
Speaker 3: Wow? It was so stressful.
Speaker 4: I got very emotional too, because I don't like when
Speaker 4: people don't like me or include me.
Speaker 3: So that was a lot.
Speaker 1: It felt like you said that you were overwhelmed, and
Speaker 1: everyone just stacked on you. What went wrong in your mind?
Speaker 3: There was a lot of components. I think that went wrong.
Speaker 4: Firstly, I think I put too much trust in kitting Caroline.
Speaker 4: I thought we'd built a genuine connection the days prior
Speaker 4: with Red as well, we actually spoke about having a
Speaker 4: girl alliance and kind of.
Speaker 3: Sticking together till merge.
Speaker 4: That became something that wasn't very valid because they completely
Speaker 4: lied to me and.
Speaker 3: Turned their back on me.
Speaker 4: And it was ingenuine obviously, whereas I thought, you know,
Speaker 4: that was a genuine conversation. And I find myself on
Speaker 4: being genuine and telling the truth and trying to build
Speaker 4: like proper connections with people. So that was really that
Speaker 4: kind of hit hit hard for me, especially after being
Speaker 4: so burnt pretty much the whole game from everyone. For
Speaker 4: the first time, I thought that I'd gained some trust,
Speaker 4: built a relationship, especially being in on the viola boat.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm on the right side with the
Speaker 3: black side. Finally I was feeling good. I was playing
Speaker 3: my own game. I was really sad once to buy
Speaker 3: it s left, but I think it was actually.
Speaker 4: Good for my game because then I didn't have him
Speaker 4: hanging over me, like I could then go and you know,
Speaker 4: trade my own path and paid my own way. So
Speaker 4: for the first time, I was finally feeling in control
Speaker 4: of my game and building connections. I was like, really good,
Speaker 4: And then it just all flipped back on me again.
Speaker 3: I was at the bottom again.
Speaker 1: And yeah, next minute, I'm nearly setting fire a JLP Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my.
Speaker 3: God, that was so funny. I don't remember doing that.
Speaker 3: Watching it last night, I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sarah, can I just say I have
Speaker 1: this repeated dream. It's a recurring dream that I'm on
Speaker 1: Survivor and it sort of changes, but I'm always eliminated
Speaker 1: first and then for some reason, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: in my personality that I try to have like a
Speaker 1: moment with JLP before he stuffs the torch, and it
Speaker 1: always sort of goes awkwardly wrong, like as in I'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh, thanks for coming and hosting the show
Speaker 1: and just say something, thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 2: Do you want to make out after me? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like I've watched the episode twice and I feel like
Speaker 1: you might have protested too much with your l plate
Speaker 1: speech because I don't know how it happened in real life.
Speaker 1: But when Sue dropped that l plate speech and you
Speaker 1: said everyone else has a full license, Eden just whispered
Speaker 1: get rid of Mara, basically yeah, well, I don't understand
Speaker 1: the rationale of that. What transpired for Eden to then
Speaker 1: say to stack those votes on just you.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was from my l plate speech.
Speaker 4: I just think they had a suspicion that Mark had turned.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone else picks up on it,
Speaker 4: but the way that they seat you at tribal council
Speaker 4: can sometimes indicate the way people are going to vote,
Speaker 4: and having read up the end, me.
Speaker 3: Down the other end.
Speaker 4: I think they'd realized that I wasn't with them, and
Speaker 4: well not that I was going to be with them anyway,
Speaker 4: but they definitely realized.
Speaker 3: That Mark was doing something else.
Speaker 4: And I think they knew that or they had a
Speaker 4: suspicion that Mark had an idol, so stack it on
Speaker 4: me while.
Speaker 3: Not I'm the easy target. I'm the one that tells
Speaker 3: the truth.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's I mean, I'd love to see as a
Speaker 1: deleted scene of JLP doing like a seating plan, you know,
Speaker 1: like when you've got people coming over for dinner and
Speaker 1: you've got your seating plan, and so there must be
Speaker 1: a lot of thought into Okay, well we're going to
Speaker 1: put that person there and put this person here.
Speaker 2: Oh, that person doesn't get along.
Speaker 3: Maybe JLP does it. Well, I don't know if he does.
Speaker 3: He's always got me close to.
Speaker 1: Him, absolutely, manet he just comes sit next to me
Speaker 1: and then I'd read it wrong and the next thing
Speaker 1: and I'd lean in for the awkward kiss.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, Yeah, I'm surprised I.
Speaker 4: Said didn't actually going to hug JLP because I hugged
Speaker 4: everyone else.
Speaker 3: It's in my nature to do that. I'm yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: surprised I didn't do that because probably would have been
Speaker 3: very awkward.
Speaker 1: I love an awkward I love an awkward hug. But
Speaker 1: have you spoken to Eden since to find out why
Speaker 1: he did? He give you a rationale?
Speaker 2: Like is he said? Okay, so what did he tell you?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 4: I actually spoke to Eden last night or this morning,
Speaker 4: and he didn't think I was being genuine about Mark
Speaker 4: voting against them. I think he thought that I was
Speaker 4: just trying to blow up the game and save myself,
Speaker 4: which I was actually genuinely trying to be like guys,
Speaker 4: like I thought we had something I'm telling here. I'm
Speaker 4: going to tell you this information to gain your trust
Speaker 4: and then hopefully be safe for another day. That was
Speaker 4: my rationale, And he thought I was just trying to
Speaker 4: confuse them, which I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I was the one confused.
Speaker 4: They are the ones with the solid votes and alliances
Speaker 4: and everything. I was the one that was just like,
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to figure out who's telling the truth,
Speaker 4: who's not, where the votes are going so.
Speaker 3: Then I can make a decision to align myself with tonight.
Speaker 4: Because I knew my name was on the shopping block
Speaker 4: and I didn't want to go home.
Speaker 3: I was having a fun time, I was enjoying it.
Speaker 4: I we want to go home, back to reality.
Speaker 1: What I can't understand, though, is Ree, you have to
Speaker 1: help me with this. Like re, yeah, you and Mark
Speaker 1: and Ree had a conversation on the beach where Mark
Speaker 1: revealed that he had an idol, and so I don't
Speaker 1: understand why reflipped. I mean she kind of flipped, which
Speaker 1: when it went against what you two had planned, which
Speaker 1: was weird because you were the only person in her alliance,
Speaker 1: But like, why would she put a vote on Mark?
Speaker 1: I don't understand.
Speaker 4: I still think at that point she was putting too
Speaker 4: much trust in Kitty and Caroline.
Speaker 3: I think she was.
Speaker 4: Trying to set herself up to be in their alliance
Speaker 4: moving forward in the game. And I think she kind
Speaker 4: of knew at that point that it was more my
Speaker 4: name on the chopping block than has I don't know,
Speaker 4: I'm speaking yeah yeah, from the episode, and I think
Speaker 4: she got a bit scared and just wanted to be
Speaker 4: with the majority. Ultimately, that sent me home, which sucks
Speaker 4: because me and really really close and we still are,
Speaker 4: and I adore her and I think she's the most
Speaker 4: amazing person.
Speaker 3: But yeah, she just freaked out put a vote on Mark.
Speaker 4: They told her to vote for Mark and no one
Speaker 4: else voting for Mark.
Speaker 3: She feels really bad, she really does.
Speaker 4: We've spoken and she feels really bad, and she feels
Speaker 4: a bit silly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not bit silly. I think it feels silly.
Speaker 3: I went home. I'm the silly one.
Speaker 4: I'm the one that went home. She got to live
Speaker 4: another day in the game. So look, I'm the silly
Speaker 4: one in all of this. I should have just kept
Speaker 4: my mouth shut in hindsight, and you know, trusted Mark
Speaker 4: from the get go. But I just didn't have that
Speaker 4: foundation and trusted him because he put my name down
Speaker 4: the tribal before.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Look, you know what I don't And when it comes
Speaker 1: to read, the only thing I'll say is she kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of the goat in Jurassic Park, you know,
Speaker 1: the goat that just comes out of the ground just
Speaker 1: before like as in like she's just there to be eaten.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I, oh no, she's actually such a
Speaker 1: beautiful person.
Speaker 3: I don't like people looking badly about I'm not.
Speaker 2: Saying anything bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that goat means something different in
Speaker 1: the Survivor universe people, yes, different terminology.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like with her that she's just
Speaker 2: going to be eaten by the tea rens. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it, I see it. I see it,
Speaker 3: and I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't know. Even Mark dropping his golden loot,
Speaker 1: which is what he called it, you.
Speaker 2: Know, it felt like he maybe that.
Speaker 1: Was hard proof that even he was confused and had
Speaker 1: no idea what was going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think we thought that
Speaker 4: there was a split on Mark and myself, so he
Speaker 4: was going to play his idol and then there was
Speaker 4: only going to be like two votes on me, and
Speaker 4: then there was meant to be like two or three
Speaker 4: votes on me, and then there was meant to be
Speaker 4: four votes on Carolina.
Speaker 3: She would have gone hoigh, okay if he played his idol.
Speaker 4: But I remember being at that tribal and hearing my name,
Speaker 4: and I should have taken the initiative and said to Mark,
Speaker 4: played for me. But I'm way to selfless. I'm way
Speaker 4: too I know, like having other people put themselves out
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 3: So I didn't actually.
Speaker 4: Have that conversation with Buck which I should have in hindsight,
Speaker 4: it's a great bloody thing.
Speaker 3: Then that would have been an.
Speaker 4: Ethic move because that would have been you know, it
Speaker 4: would have completely flipped it on its head and Caroline would.
Speaker 3: Have gone home.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting with the online community about the way
Speaker 1: they support Caroline. For me, I find her a little
Speaker 1: bit unlikable. I don't know if that's really horrible to say.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's it like.
Speaker 1: On the beach, you know, when you're a fellow castaway
Speaker 1: in Samoa? I mean, does she come across like because
Speaker 1: she's I don't know, she's sort of polarizing me. She's
Speaker 1: you know, Pippa from home in away and other references
Speaker 1: outdates your time, or she's like Blenda the bad Witch
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I just I don't know where
Speaker 2: she lands.
Speaker 4: From my experience, I only got to spend a couple
Speaker 4: of days with her.
Speaker 3: She was really lovely to me.
Speaker 4: She you know, I was going through a bit of
Speaker 4: a crazy time in my brain with everything that had
Speaker 4: happened in the game and with all of these you know,
Speaker 4: you get a lot of quiet time on stun to
Speaker 4: think about your life and perspective on things. And I
Speaker 4: was going through big personal rebirth at the time, and
Speaker 4: she was really company for me during that. So I
Speaker 4: actually had some nice experiences with her. But I have
Speaker 4: since seen you know, the.
Speaker 3: Previous episodes as well, where she's.
Speaker 4: You know, saying to the boys, you know, they're eating
Speaker 4: too much, and then like being really micromanagy, really controlling.
Speaker 4: I didn't see that side of her, but I think
Speaker 4: that's because she was trying to mother me, which was nice, That's.
Speaker 2: What I mean, which is nice.
Speaker 1: What is the deal with Jaden's absence from that scramble?
Speaker 1: Was he at medical or was he taken off some
Speaker 1: red rooster like the man like I even forgot. I
Speaker 1: thought he was on the other tribe, and then we
Speaker 1: got to the tribal council and he was there in
Speaker 1: the background, and I've had this ongoing theory that he's
Speaker 1: only there to goggle box you all inside the show's theory.
Speaker 2: What happen? Where was he?
Speaker 4: Yes, So I actually tried to have a conversation with
Speaker 4: Jaden because I was having a chat to everyone because
Speaker 4: I wanted to find out where everyone's boat was going,
Speaker 4: or so they were saying to me where.
Speaker 3: Their boat was going. To figure out where the truth
Speaker 3: was where I was going to a line. I had
Speaker 3: a chat with him.
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, Jenen, like I thought we weren't
Speaker 4: kind of in the same alliance at the time, so
Speaker 4: I was like, I think right in the same lights.
Speaker 3: He goes, oh, are we and I was like yeah.
Speaker 3: He goes, oh, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, okay, Like do you want
Speaker 4: to have a chat and he was like he was
Speaker 4: like no.
Speaker 3: He was like, oh, I don't know where IM voted.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, good chat.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's kind of all I got from him.
Speaker 4: He was very fly by the what's the saying fly.
Speaker 2: By the same of his pants? I think is what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: But I always got I always say fly by the
Speaker 1: seat of the pants, and I'm like, that's that's not
Speaker 1: even a thing. But we get what we're talking about here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get you.
Speaker 4: He was very much like that same and you know,
Speaker 4: it got him to the next day.
Speaker 3: So good on him for his you know, strategy or
Speaker 3: black thereof. It paid off in the end. I guess
Speaker 3: maybe we.
Speaker 4: Should have been a bit smarter, like as in Mark
Speaker 4: myself alex and Ree initially and got him on board
Speaker 4: because he was quite malleable, and I don't think he
Speaker 4: was super solid with that alliance. I think he just
Speaker 4: thought it was easy and they always just told him
Speaker 4: why to vote. If it meant he wasn't going home,
Speaker 4: then he was happy.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's hard to miss. He's a big unit,
Speaker 1: like as in, you'd be like that bloke over there,
Speaker 1: we need to use that.
Speaker 2: He's a part of a headcount.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me as well of your conflict
Speaker 1: with Alex. You know, there was this moment on the
Speaker 1: beach where it actually looked like the two of you
Speaker 1: were going to have more of an argument about him
Speaker 1: telling you not to go and blow up the game.
Speaker 1: What was your take on Alex? And had you stayed
Speaker 1: on the beach, would you have ended up in a
Speaker 1: full blown argument with him about something? It looked like
Speaker 1: there was some tension there.
Speaker 3: Look, I wasn't going to have an argument with him.
Speaker 4: I was just trying to figure out who was telling
Speaker 4: the truth. I didn't feel like I could completely trust
Speaker 4: Alex at that point, just because he well.
Speaker 2: He's never pulled off good you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like he's never.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he was quite sneaky, it felt like, so
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure if he was just saying that to
Speaker 4: us to say that's why I had to go and
Speaker 4: have those other conversations.
Speaker 3: But watching it back, I must say last night, it
Speaker 3: actually was quite.
Speaker 4: Obvious to me now that he was telling the truths
Speaker 4: because his body language was different. The way he spoke
Speaker 4: to us was different, especially Mark as well. The way
Speaker 4: he was like, gods like this, that and the other,
Speaker 4: Like he hadn't spoken.
Speaker 3: To me like that before. It's like, oh, yeah, just
Speaker 3: put your vote on that, and it's like very like
Speaker 3: they're trying to.
Speaker 4: Not give away too much, whereas Mark was like, this
Speaker 4: is what's happening. Put your vote here, I have an
Speaker 4: idol and that's that. That second conversation with Mark I
Speaker 4: was solid from then on.
Speaker 1: It should have been, but I mean I still picked
Speaker 1: up on that. I mean, Mark's face did change this episode.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think he felt a little butt hurt from the
Speaker 1: episode before and then now he's here and he's kind
Speaker 1: of gone from sort of mister boss to mister bean,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like he kind of had this sort of like I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Strange look that was on his face, which made it
Speaker 1: really hard to work out how to trust him.
Speaker 4: Yes, and that's exactly why the first conversation wasn't enough
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 3: And then that's why I had to go and have
Speaker 3: chats with other Peop people.
Speaker 4: And then when he realized that, Ree and I went
Speaker 4: to Kitty and told Kitty about what was happening with Mark.
Speaker 4: And then Mark came back to us and was like, guys,
Speaker 4: I know you've done this. I don't care plans changing,
Speaker 4: but it's still going to work.
Speaker 3: I have an idol. I was like, okay, so he's
Speaker 3: come back with the other comeback of blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Uh like, yellola, Sorry, I'm getting very jumbled, but it
Speaker 4: was very confusing.
Speaker 2: I get you.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4: Look in the end, it sucked that it didn't work
Speaker 4: out and re voted on the other side, but look,
Speaker 4: that's the game. It's a little bit of luck, it's
Speaker 4: a little bit of smarts, it's.
Speaker 3: A little bit of a little bit of everything. Really.
Speaker 1: I just feel like with Mark, when he brought up
Speaker 1: the invisible hand, I was like, how invisible has this
Speaker 1: hand been? He brought up something from the first Star
Speaker 1: Wars movie. Felt sort of a bit silly for him
Speaker 1: to bring that up at that point.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Didn't even know about this invisible hand, and I don't
Speaker 4: really even know what it references Star Wars, right, I've
Speaker 4: never seen it, so.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, don't think it's Star Wars.
Speaker 1: I just meant, like, you know, there's so many Star
Speaker 1: Wars movies you never know, you never know which one
Speaker 1: they've said something in.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like you, oh, yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, oh yeah, it's very Star Wars reference, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Well for Eden of course, because you know he was
Speaker 1: born in a cinema or something. I can't remember now,
Speaker 1: but you know he loves the movies. Well, when he
Speaker 1: does the movie quotes like he did the Gladiator quote,
Speaker 1: I was scared. I had to go online to find
Speaker 1: out that it was a gladiator quote, like I've seen Gladiators,
Speaker 1: but I just didn't understand anyway. What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: though on Caroline and Kitty standing out so far now
Speaker 1: because they're taking real wantnership over all the decisions that
Speaker 1: are happening, and in the game of survivor, anyone that
Speaker 1: wants to stand out and say they're in control never
Speaker 1: is in control. So what do you think is going
Speaker 1: to happen to them? Do you think that they need
Speaker 1: to separate to give the illusion that they're not together,
Speaker 1: or what do you think can happen there to keep
Speaker 1: them in the game.
Speaker 4: I think that Kitty is aligning with Caroline because she
Speaker 4: knows that if she brings Caroline to know, she's going
Speaker 4: to be able to beat her in every challenge. I'm
Speaker 4: not quite sure what the reasoning behind them aligning is.
Speaker 4: I think it's just genuinely they got along from the
Speaker 4: start and now it's become a bigger thing than it
Speaker 4: was at the start, and they're the only two that haven't.
Speaker 3: Lied to each other.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they've always been in on the same
Speaker 4: votes they were gone.
Speaker 3: Against each other.
Speaker 4: So I don't know that it's a pretty powerful thing
Speaker 4: to have complete trust with someone in the game of Survivor.
Speaker 3: So I think they'll stick together to be honest.
Speaker 2: Well, good luck to them.
Speaker 1: I think they've got to be fat target on their back,
Speaker 1: and I think they're going to be really careful, and
Speaker 1: you know, once that other merge happens, you know, I
Speaker 1: think that's where it's going to really test their friendship.
Speaker 1: Or test their alliance, because if they do turn up
Speaker 1: in the merge and they are still standing out as
Speaker 1: a two, they're going to be in a lot of pain.
Speaker 4: So for sure, for sure, they've definitely got a target
Speaker 4: on their back.
Speaker 1: Now, definitely what about just just before you guys going
Speaker 1: to quickly ask, what about how nobody took responsibility at
Speaker 1: the immunity challenge for who is responsible for Viola going home?
Speaker 1: That was really strange, Like what was going on? Was
Speaker 1: was there more to that story that we didn't get
Speaker 1: to see. It just looked so awkward that no one
Speaker 1: wanted to take the pibility for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think Mark didn't want to speak up because at
Speaker 4: that point he was still fooling.
Speaker 3: Eden, Caroline and Kinney that he was aligned with them.
Speaker 3: I think if he had already, you know, made.
Speaker 4: The decision to remove himself from that, he would have
Speaker 4: spoken up. I wasn't going to speak up because I
Speaker 4: was only told it the last second before we went
Speaker 4: to travel about the boat, so I didn't really know
Speaker 4: where it came from. To be honest, I actually don't
Speaker 4: know who initiated it.
Speaker 2: And it was weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was weird. I don't know I have
Speaker 4: no answers for that.
Speaker 2: It was just removed on.
Speaker 1: Everybody joins the podcast this season, I've been asking them
Speaker 1: in the game to finish the sentence in the Game
Speaker 1: of Survivor, what are your thoughts.
Speaker 3: In the Game of Survivor. You need to learn how
Speaker 3: to lie?
Speaker 4: Oh great, because I was not good at lying and
Speaker 4: that's something that I've learned in the Game of Survivor.
Speaker 3: You need to be good good at lying, and I
Speaker 3: am not. I like the truth and that's what got
Speaker 3: me murdered out. So don't be like me.
Speaker 2: Basically, don't be like Sarah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do what I did.
Speaker 1: Everyone who joins the podcast from all the different shows
Speaker 1: gets asked this question, what is something from behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: something that we didn't get a chance to see, kind
Speaker 1: of like a behind the scenes secret from your Time
Speaker 1: and Survivor.
Speaker 3: I think what.
Speaker 4: Everyone missed out on was Raymond's amazing humor. In the
Speaker 4: original Rebels tribe, we had some funny moments me and
Speaker 4: ray and Ferris. He had this running joke about he
Speaker 4: was so obsessed with the Isuzu Dmax.
Speaker 3: He was so obsessed with it, and the joke was
Speaker 3: that he wanted to get.
Speaker 4: Tattooed across his chest Isuzu Dmax And for some reason,
Speaker 4: it doesn't sound funny now, but it was so funny
Speaker 4: at the time, and he'd bring it up at any
Speaker 4: moment he could, and myself and Ferris just lost it.
Speaker 3: Everyone else was annoyed. At this point, Self and Faris
Speaker 3: we had a cackle.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's my I'm really enjoying Raymond. I
Speaker 1: think ray Ray's a lot of fun enjoying him on
Speaker 1: the show. And I saw him in the city the
Speaker 1: other day, but I'm not really allowed to talk to contestants.
Speaker 1: So he cut his hair and there was no blonde
Speaker 1: in it, and I was like, it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's that's Raymond. I was like, I feel like I
Speaker 1: want to say hello.
Speaker 3: And was that in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: It was in Melbourne yet, and so I had to
Speaker 1: let him just walk. He literally was right in front
Speaker 1: of me and spoke to the person next to me
Speaker 1: and then walked away.
Speaker 2: And I was like, don't worry, Ben, You'll get your
Speaker 2: chance to talk to Raymond. Yeah. Will He's the best.
Speaker 4: He's honestly so beautiful, and he only lives an hour
Speaker 4: from me, so we catch up quite a bit.
Speaker 3: It was so cute.
Speaker 4: He took a trivia We went to trivia at his
Speaker 4: local pub and played and our team name.
Speaker 3: This is hilarious.
Speaker 4: Our teen name was ass, so the joke is still running.
Speaker 1: I just I thoroughly enjoyed chatting to you today. I
Speaker 1: think that you are breath of fresh air, and thank
Speaker 1: you for chatting with me, but also thank you for
Speaker 1: going on Survivor and being so fun to watch.
Speaker 3: Oh thanks Ben.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just grateful for the experience, and I just
Speaker 4: really enjoyed the whole thing and I can't wait to
Speaker 4: do it again, hopefully one day