Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,
Speaker 1: now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to the
Speaker 1: Daily OS. It's Wednesday, the twenty third of October. I'm Harry,
Speaker 1: I'm Zara. This Saturday, Queenslanders will choose their next government.
Speaker 1: Fifty cent public transport, fairs, free primary school lunches, youth
Speaker 1: crime and abortion are big talking points in this election.
Speaker 1: Two men in their forties wanting to lead the state,
Speaker 1: the current Premier Stephen Miles and Opposition leader David chris
Speaker 1: a Fully have also taken the fight to social media,
Speaker 1: both using TikTok as part of their campaign strategy to
Speaker 1: reach young people. With the polls against Stephen Miles, the
Speaker 1: Labor premier is hoping to defy the odds and keep
Speaker 1: his government in power for a fourth term. I interviewed
Speaker 1: the Premier ahead of Saturday's election, and you'll hear that
Speaker 1: chat in today's Deep Dive. But first, Sarah, what's making headlines.
Speaker 2: Opposition leader Peter Dudden has called for Independent Senator Lydia
Speaker 2: Thorpe to resign from Parliament after she protested an event
Speaker 2: with King Charles the Third earlier this week. In an
Speaker 2: interview with Channel seven Sunrise program yesterday, Dudden said Thorpe
Speaker 2: should resign if she doesn't believe in the system of government.
Speaker 2: Coalition senators later denied reports they would move a censure
Speaker 2: motion against Thorpe. That's when members officially reprimand the behavior
Speaker 2: of a fellow senator. Liberal Senator James Patterson told two
Speaker 2: gb radio he believed Thorpe would probably wear it as
Speaker 2: a badge of honor. Thorpe told nine newspapers that while
Speaker 2: she has no intention of resigning, she won't run for
Speaker 2: reelection at the end of her six year term in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: The teenage driver who accidentally killed the son of South
Speaker 1: Australian Police commissioner in a hit and run during last
Speaker 1: year's schoolies has been handed a suspended sentence. Recent High
Speaker 1: scho graduate Charlie Stevens died in November last year of
Speaker 1: multiple injuries he sustained when fellow graduate during singh Randhawa,
Speaker 1: accidentally hit him with his car at a beach south
Speaker 1: of Adelaide. Nineteen year old Randhawa, who pleaded guilty, has
Speaker 1: been disqualified from driving for ten years and will serve
Speaker 1: as suspended sentence on good behavior for two years. Presiding
Speaker 1: Judge Joanne Tracy said while she did not want to
Speaker 1: overlook the terrible loss, the fact that Randhawa had no
Speaker 1: history of offending of any sort and has good prospects
Speaker 1: for rehabilitation was considered in her judgment.
Speaker 2: Meta has announced it will use facial recognition technology on
Speaker 2: its platforms to improve user safety by cracking down on
Speaker 2: scams and allowing people to access their accounts if they
Speaker 2: believe they've been compromised. The tech giant said it will
Speaker 2: limit what's called celeb bait scams, which is content and
Speaker 2: accounts that falsely impersonate celebrities with the goal of duping
Speaker 2: people into being engaging with scam content or sending money,
Speaker 2: by using facial recognition to confirm if posts are real
Speaker 2: or fake. At the moment, the removal of those kinds
Speaker 2: of accounts is based on user reports. In another change,
Speaker 2: users who have lost access to their account or whose
Speaker 2: account has been compromised will be able to upload a
Speaker 2: video selfie for verification. Meta says it has vetted these
Speaker 2: measures as well as developed important safeguards to ensure user privacy.
Speaker 1: And for today's good news. Scientists at the University of
Speaker 1: Central Florida have developed a liquid gel that they say
Speaker 1: works like a bandage to slow down heavy bleeding in
Speaker 1: emergencies before doctors are able to help. When sprayed, the
Speaker 1: gel expands into a foam that disinfects wounds and significantly
Speaker 1: reduces bleeding by applying pressure in the same way you
Speaker 1: might press down with your hand, Researchers said. The foam
Speaker 1: can also be removed gently because it's a soft sponge
Speaker 1: that doesn't stick to your skin. The team has so
Speaker 1: far to tested the gel on specially designed mannequins, but
Speaker 1: hopes to test it on people in the near future.
Speaker 2: Harry, I don't live in Queensland, but I am on
Speaker 2: TikTok and for some reason, for the last couple of months,
Speaker 2: I have been absolutely bombarded by Queensland election TikTok bloody niche.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, that is the side of it.
Speaker 1: I feel like I got right there in Queensland. Every
Speaker 1: time I'm pulled up social media, every time I pull
Speaker 1: up Instagram, I see a real from the Queensland state election.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's so interesting because we look
Speaker 2: to the US, we talk about that being a TikTok
Speaker 2: election or whatever. It is, but right here in Australia,
Speaker 2: the same thing is happening.
Speaker 1: Well, I would say it's probably Australia's first TikTok election,
Speaker 1: So yeah, we've got the US overseas providing the model,
Speaker 1: but it's definitely a new era of online campaigning in
Speaker 1: an election in Australia. So politicians are figuring out that
Speaker 1: social media is where young people groundbreaking. Well did the
Speaker 1: daily odds set the trend? Maybe? And both Stephen Miles,
Speaker 1: who is the Labor Premier, and David Chrscipfully who's the
Speaker 1: leader of the Liberal National Party in Queensland, are trying
Speaker 1: to target younger voters and so Miles has turned around
Speaker 1: heaps of vertical videos. He's no stranger to a bench
Speaker 1: press and so he's posted videos of himself at the gym.
Speaker 1: He's done some reaction reels to comments made by the opposition,
Speaker 1: and he's also got a regular food prep segment on
Speaker 1: his TikTok We're.
Speaker 3: Going to make our lunchbox chat for today and we're
Speaker 3: going to talk about housing.
Speaker 1: And then Chrisipfully has also gone hard on sharing stories
Speaker 1: and videos from his travels around the States, particularly in
Speaker 1: the regional areas he's also run a tough on crime
Speaker 1: campaign and he's shared victims and families of victims of
Speaker 1: crime on his TikTok as well, and their statements and
Speaker 1: their stories. So he's used social media as a tool
Speaker 1: to talk about some serious topics, but some at a
Speaker 1: little bit less serious.
Speaker 3: Pineapple belongs on a pizza, no, Thomas.
Speaker 2: Pineapple is a fruit, and a good quality Italian pizza does.
Speaker 1: Not have fruit on it.
Speaker 2: So we're just days out from the Queensland election. And
Speaker 2: while I would, for one not vote for anyone that
Speaker 2: says that pineapple belongs on pizza, I do know that
Speaker 2: that is not the key policy area determining the state election.
Speaker 2: Can you just take me through a bit of a
Speaker 2: lay of the land. So Labor is in government there,
Speaker 2: the Liberal National Party is in opposition. What can you
Speaker 2: tell me about the big issues?
Speaker 1: I'd probably boil down the election campaign to three main areas.
Speaker 1: The first and no prizes for guessing cost of living.
Speaker 1: The second main issue has been crime, in particular what
Speaker 1: the LMP has branded a youth crime crisis in Queensland.
Speaker 1: The l ANDP is promising to bring in adult crime
Speaker 1: adult time laws for people under eighteen and a host
Speaker 1: of what they've called reset programs out in the regions,
Speaker 1: which are effectively camps for convicted youth offenders and trying
Speaker 1: to resocialize them and rehabilitate them into society. David Christifullies
Speaker 1: also staked his job on tackling crime. He's promised to
Speaker 1: step down ahead of the next election if crime rates
Speaker 1: don't come down in the state. And the third issue,
Speaker 1: and this has been a late and somewhat unexpected development
Speaker 1: in the election. Abortion rights have been a focal point
Speaker 1: of both campaigns. Queensland decriminalized abortion in twenty eighteen, but
Speaker 1: a rural MP, Robbie Catter, who's part of the minor
Speaker 1: party Cats Australia.
Speaker 2: And is the son of Bob Katter, who my listeners
Speaker 2: would be familiar with.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's promised to introduce a law rolling back abortion
Speaker 1: protections in the state, but it gave Premier Stephen Miles
Speaker 1: an issue to wedge the LMP on and he's asked
Speaker 1: the leader, David Christipfully many times to confirm whether he'll
Speaker 1: protect abortion rights. Chris Fully has said that he has
Speaker 1: no plans to change the abortion laws in the state
Speaker 1: as it stands, and so I wanted to ask Stephen
Speaker 1: Miles about these three key issues and what he plans
Speaker 1: to do if he's reelected. He's currently busy on the
Speaker 1: campaign trail and we got a small window to talk
Speaker 1: with him while he was in a car traveling in Mackay,
Speaker 1: and so here's a bit of that chat. Hello Premier
Speaker 1: Stephen Miles, thank you so much for joining the Daily
Speaker 1: OS and for joining us from the campaign.
Speaker 4: Good thanks for having me and your listeners.
Speaker 1: So TDA has a younger audience. Many of our listeners
Speaker 1: are juggling things like work and study. How do you
Speaker 1: plan to ease the cost of living stress for these
Speaker 1: younger people.
Speaker 3: Well, one of the things we've done that I know
Speaker 3: a lot of people who are studying really appreciate is
Speaker 3: the fifty cent fairs making it cheap better get UNI
Speaker 3: ordit tafe. That's one of the things I decided I
Speaker 3: wanted to do when I was traveling to UNI to study,
Speaker 3: and I know what a big impost can be when
Speaker 3: you're needing to pay a lot for transport.
Speaker 4: So that's one of the things.
Speaker 3: We have a really comprehensive housing plan that's about delivering
Speaker 3: additional supply, but also supporting renters and getting more people
Speaker 3: into their first home.
Speaker 4: So I know that's really important to a lot of
Speaker 4: younger pett.
Speaker 1: So in Queensland, landlords can only increase rents once a year.
Speaker 1: Will you consider capping rent hikes if you are re elected.
Speaker 3: We've ruled out capping rent hikes because every time we
Speaker 3: ask for advice about it, the advice comes back suggesting
Speaker 3: that won't help them, We'll probably make the problem worse.
Speaker 3: And so that's why we've stuck with our current approach,
Speaker 3: which is all focused on giving rent as a greater cloud.
Speaker 4: So we banned practices like rent bidding.
Speaker 3: We've brought in portable bond loans to make moving between
Speaker 3: rentals easier.
Speaker 4: Those kinds of initiatives that we know will help.
Speaker 1: Moving on to crime, there's been a lot of discussion
Speaker 1: about a so called youth crime crisis in Queensland. What
Speaker 1: is the scale of this issue in your state to
Speaker 1: anyone who's listening from interstate and what are you doing
Speaker 1: to address youth crime?
Speaker 3: So this is one of the things that I really
Speaker 3: focused in on when I became the premierges ten months ago,
Speaker 3: and we delivered a new community safety plan that is
Speaker 3: working We've turned a corner across pretty much every measure
Speaker 3: of crime, so we've got less offenses, less offenders, less
Speaker 3: youth offenders, less serious repeat offenders, and that turnaround has
Speaker 3: been backed in month after months, so we are seeing
Speaker 3: that continued reduction. The LMP have been very clear that
Speaker 3: they want to exploit crime for political benefit. That's what
Speaker 3: their police spokesperson said, and that's why pretty much every
Speaker 3: day that's the only thing they've talked about.
Speaker 4: They don't have a plan.
Speaker 3: For cheaper power or cheaper fuel or addressing the cost
Speaker 3: of living. They really only want to focus on our
Speaker 3: focus on crime and they refuse to accept the data
Speaker 3: that's provided by the Queensland Police.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. Your opponent, David chris a Fully from
Speaker 1: the LMP, has been going really hard on an anti
Speaker 1: crime message and his promises. Do you think there's a
Speaker 1: bit of fear mongering going on.
Speaker 3: Well, those policies are just really poorly thought through. Like
Speaker 3: he says that his forward slogan will be in placed
Speaker 3: by Christmas, we know that it will see an increase
Speaker 3: in the number of young people.
Speaker 4: Detained by about fifty percent.
Speaker 3: He has no plan to deliver the additional beds in
Speaker 3: the detention system.
Speaker 4: He can't answer simple questions.
Speaker 3: About where he would accommodate the additional detainees, and it
Speaker 3: really goes to how poorly thought through his plan is.
Speaker 4: The fact is that all.
Speaker 3: Crime is very complex and addressing it requires a comprehensive plan,
Speaker 3: not just a slogan.
Speaker 1: The Northern Territories lowered its age of criminal responsibility back
Speaker 1: down to ten. Victoria's backtracked on its plans to lift
Speaker 1: the age of responsibility to fourteen, and to the age
Speaker 1: of criminal responsibility, it's still ten in Queensland. Do you
Speaker 1: plan to change that?
Speaker 3: We don't know, but we do plan to and have
Speaker 3: very comprehensive set of prevention and early intervention measures to
Speaker 3: keep those younger kids in school. That includes early learning
Speaker 3: and development checks between birth and free lunches during primary school.
Speaker 3: And we know that one of the key drivers for
Speaker 3: school disengagement is for kids who are sent to school
Speaker 3: without food, they.
Speaker 4: Really get alienated.
Speaker 3: Very quickly, and so by providing lunch to everyone, we
Speaker 3: think that can keep kids going to school through primary
Speaker 3: school and that that'll make a big difference.
Speaker 1: Robbie Katter, who is a rural MP for anyone who's unfamiliar.
Speaker 1: He wants to introduce legislation to outlaw abortion in Queensland.
Speaker 1: How worried are you about that.
Speaker 4: I'm very worried.
Speaker 3: I was the Health minister who passed those laws decriminalizing
Speaker 3: abortion in Queensland. It's really important for women who should
Speaker 3: have the right to choose what happens with their bodies.
Speaker 3: But it's also important for our healthcare workers their work
Speaker 3: taking care of Queenslanders shouldn't be a criminal offense. We
Speaker 3: know that many members of the LMP, in fact almost
Speaker 3: all of them voted against that change, and many of
Speaker 3: their members think that abortion should still be a crime,
Speaker 3: including David Chris Foley, who voted against it himself.
Speaker 1: He's got a.
Speaker 3: Candidate in Amanda Stoker who thinks that abortion should be
Speaker 3: illegal even in the case of break.
Speaker 4: So they have very extreme views.
Speaker 3: And I know sometimes you can be lulled into thinking
Speaker 3: that we only ever see progress on these issues, but
Speaker 3: we know from the United States that you can go backwards.
Speaker 4: You know, women in the US had abortion rights for.
Speaker 3: More than half a century and they were taken away
Speaker 3: with the stroke of the pen, and it's important that
Speaker 3: we defend those rights.
Speaker 1: The LMP leader David Chrisfuley has repeatedly said that he
Speaker 1: doesn't plan to change abortion laws in Queensland. Are you
Speaker 1: scaring people by saying that reproductive rights are under threat
Speaker 1: in an LMP government?
Speaker 4: Well, these are just weasel words from him. He said that,
Speaker 4: he says they're not in his plan.
Speaker 3: He won't say he opposes them, he won't say he'd
Speaker 3: vote against them, he won't say he'll make his MP's
Speaker 3: vote against them.
Speaker 4: He won't give Queensland women a straight answer.
Speaker 3: And the fact is in an election campaign, you can't
Speaker 3: anticipate every issue that will come up in the next
Speaker 3: four years, every law that will be put before the House.
Speaker 3: But what you can do is outline to Queenslanders what
Speaker 3: you believe. And by saying it's not part of his plan,
Speaker 3: he's really carefully trying to avoid telling Queenslanders what he believes.
Speaker 3: And we have to assume that's because he still believes
Speaker 3: that women shouldn't have a right to choose.
Speaker 4: Because that's the only point of proof we have. That's
Speaker 4: how he's voted in the past.
Speaker 1: You're probably on social media more than any other politician
Speaker 1: in Australia. How has that helped you connect with young people.
Speaker 4: I've been blown away by how many young people.
Speaker 3: Have just stopped me in the street and said that
Speaker 3: I'm the first politician they've felt is listening to them
Speaker 3: and talking to them. And it's really important that everyone
Speaker 3: feels like they have a voice in government. And you know,
Speaker 3: I have a view that politicians should meet people where
Speaker 3: they are. In the case of younger Queenslanders, many of
Speaker 3: them are getting their news from podcasts like yours, as
Speaker 3: well as from TikTok and Instagram and places like that,
Speaker 3: and so I think it's really important that politicians communicate
Speaker 3: with people there.
Speaker 4: That's what I've tried to do. I've tried to do
Speaker 4: it as honestly as I can, and I guess it's.
Speaker 3: Also a platform where I think I can show a
Speaker 3: bit more of myself than maybe when it's filtered through
Speaker 3: news limited newspapers or the TV news.
Speaker 1: This Saturday, Queensland will ultimately give their verdict on your leadership,
Speaker 1: but I'm interested in a verdict that's a little bit
Speaker 1: closer to home for you. What do your kids think
Speaker 1: of your tiktoks?
Speaker 3: I don't think they mind them, Certainly, Briey loves being
Speaker 3: in them. She's been in a lot of them. I
Speaker 3: think sometimes they think I come across as maybe a
Speaker 3: bit too daggy for them, but I guess that's just
Speaker 3: who I am.
Speaker 1: Hey, well, if my dad was leaning into TikTok trends,
Speaker 1: I definitely have a few thoughts. So ultimately, queensland is
Speaker 1: are going to have their say this Saturday. Labor's been
Speaker 1: in power for all but three of the past thirty
Speaker 1: five in Queensland. Why shouldn't they vote for change?
Speaker 3: Change isn't always better and David Chris Fouley is campaigning
Speaker 3: for change, but it's not change that's better. I have
Speaker 3: really changed our government over these last ten months. I've
Speaker 3: put my stamp on it, and I think I've shown
Speaker 3: Queensland as what kind of primary I would be.
Speaker 4: If I was elected in my own right.
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm campaigning for, a mandate to do
Speaker 3: those things, things like bring back GP bold billing. You know,
Speaker 3: I remember when I was a kid read access to
Speaker 3: a fantastic medical center that was always bulk built, and
Speaker 3: that was in the early days of medicare.
Speaker 4: I think it's a real shame that bolk building has.
Speaker 3: Gone backwards as far as it has, and I want
Speaker 3: to see that rebuilt with fifty new GP book billing
Speaker 3: clinics right across the state, and they want to see
Speaker 3: I want to say, school lunches.
Speaker 4: Delivered in our schools.
Speaker 3: There's so much evidence that the return on investment from
Speaker 3: feeding kids doesn't just relieve the cost of living pressures
Speaker 3: for their families and they getting ready for school that
Speaker 3: much easier for their parents, but it makes kids better
Speaker 3: behaved and better learners, and the long term benefits of
Speaker 3: that are pretty substantial. And it also gives us a
Speaker 3: chance to teach young people about nutrition and there's a
Speaker 3: lot of evidence too that doing that can address obesity,
Speaker 3: childhood obesity, as well as mental healthtages.
Speaker 1: Going back to sort of where I started, TDA does
Speaker 1: have a younger audience. What is the main thing that
Speaker 1: you want them to hear from you leading into Saturday.
Speaker 3: I want them to hear that I've got their back,
Speaker 3: that I am delivering on policies that I think will
Speaker 3: support them, things like fifty cent fares one thousand dollars
Speaker 3: energy rebates twenty percent off for a Joe Moore Bob
Speaker 3: billing GPS, but also a really comprehensive plan for our
Speaker 3: state to address climate change. You know, this is the
Speaker 3: big long term challenge for us, and if Queensland doesn't
Speaker 3: do our part, then we won't keep our natural assets
Speaker 3: like the Great Barrier Reef and our wonderful, wonderful rainforests.
Speaker 3: I've said that we will achieve seventy five percent emissions
Speaker 3: reductions by twenty thirty five and that zero by twenty
Speaker 3: fifty and that's really important for the reasons i've Outlan,
Speaker 3: but also so that we can keep our blue collar
Speaker 3: jobs in heavy industries, they rely on cheap power. Their
Speaker 3: customers in global markets are increasingly demanding that their products
Speaker 3: have a lower carbon footprint. So if we can't deliver
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven renewable energy to those businesses, they
Speaker 3: won't be able to meet those markets and will lose
Speaker 3: jobs in the long run. So that plan for climate
Speaker 3: James really about jobs for the future too.
Speaker 1: Premier Stevin Miles, thank you so much for joining the
Speaker 1: Daily Ours today.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me, Harry.
Speaker 2: That was a very interesting chat. It's good to hear
Speaker 2: directly from the Premier about you know, what his election
Speaker 2: bid here is. I am really curious though, because labor
Speaker 2: has been in government for so long in Queensland, what
Speaker 2: are the chances that we're going to see another Labor
Speaker 2: government returned after this Saturday.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. Thirty two of the past thirty five
Speaker 1: years at a state level in Queensland, Labor has been
Speaker 1: in power, which is why Kevin Rudd refers to it
Speaker 1: as the People's Republic of Queensland. So it's not particularly
Speaker 1: likely that Labour's going to hold on. Both him and
Speaker 1: Chris Fuley have called themselves the underdogs in the race,
Speaker 1: but the numbers would say that Miles is the statistical underdog.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is the polls have shown Labor was on
Speaker 1: track for a wipeout, but the gap between Labor and
Speaker 1: the L and P has actually been narrowing a lot
Speaker 1: in the past few weeks. The poles still show that
Speaker 1: Labor's roughly about ten points behind on a two party
Speaker 1: preferred basis, but they were tracking even worse a few
Speaker 1: months ago. I wouldn't count out Stephen Miles, though, stranger
Speaker 1: things have happened in politics, and I've said it before.
Speaker 1: Poles can't predict that just a snapshot of a mood,
Speaker 1: so we won't actually know until all Queenslanders cast their
Speaker 1: votes and the counting starts on Saturday night. We will
Speaker 1: bring you the results of that election once they are clear.
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