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Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,

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Speaker 1: now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Daily OS. It's Wednesday, the twenty third of October. I'm Harry,

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Speaker 1: I'm Zara. This Saturday, Queenslanders will choose their next government.

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Speaker 1: Fifty cent public transport, fairs, free primary school lunches, youth

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Speaker 1: crime and abortion are big talking points in this election.

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Speaker 1: Two men in their forties wanting to lead the state,

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Speaker 1: the current Premier Stephen Miles and Opposition leader David chris

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Speaker 1: a Fully have also taken the fight to social media,

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Speaker 1: both using TikTok as part of their campaign strategy to

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Speaker 1: reach young people. With the polls against Stephen Miles, the

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Speaker 1: Labor premier is hoping to defy the odds and keep

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Speaker 1: his government in power for a fourth term. I interviewed

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Speaker 1: the Premier ahead of Saturday's election, and you'll hear that

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Speaker 1: chat in today's Deep Dive. But first, Sarah, what's making headlines.

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Speaker 2: Opposition leader Peter Dudden has called for Independent Senator Lydia

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Speaker 2: interview with Channel seven Sunrise program yesterday, Dudden said Thorpe

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Speaker 2: Coalition senators later denied reports they would move a censure

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Speaker 2: motion against Thorpe. That's when members officially reprimand the behavior

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Speaker 2: of a fellow senator. Liberal Senator James Patterson told two

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Speaker 2: gb radio he believed Thorpe would probably wear it as

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Speaker 2: a badge of honor. Thorpe told nine newspapers that while

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Speaker 2: she has no intention of resigning, she won't run for

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Speaker 2: reelection at the end of her six year term in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: The teenage driver who accidentally killed the son of South

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Speaker 1: year's schoolies has been handed a suspended sentence. Recent High

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Speaker 1: scho graduate Charlie Stevens died in November last year of

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Speaker 1: multiple injuries he sustained when fellow graduate during singh Randhawa,

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Speaker 1: as suspended sentence on good behavior for two years. Presiding

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Speaker 1: Judge Joanne Tracy said while she did not want to

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Speaker 1: overlook the terrible loss, the fact that Randhawa had no

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Speaker 2: Meta has announced it will use facial recognition technology on

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Speaker 2: limit what's called celeb bait scams, which is content and

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Speaker 2: users who have lost access to their account or whose

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Speaker 1: And for today's good news. Scientists at the University of

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Speaker 1: Central Florida have developed a liquid gel that they say

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Speaker 1: works like a bandage to slow down heavy bleeding in

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Speaker 1: emergencies before doctors are able to help. When sprayed, the

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Speaker 2: Harry, I don't live in Queensland, but I am on

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Speaker 2: I have been absolutely bombarded by Queensland election TikTok bloody niche.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I got right there in Queensland. Every

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Speaker 3: Going to make our lunchbox chat for today and we're

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Speaker 1: And then Chrisipfully has also gone hard on sharing stories

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Speaker 3: Pineapple belongs on a pizza, no, Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Pineapple is a fruit, and a good quality Italian pizza does.

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Speaker 2: So we're just days out from the Queensland election. And

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Speaker 2: Can you just take me through a bit of a

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Speaker 1: I'd probably boil down the election campaign to three main areas.

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Speaker 1: The first and no prizes for guessing cost of living.

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Speaker 1: The second main issue has been crime, in particular what

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Speaker 1: the LMP has branded a youth crime crisis in Queensland.

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Speaker 1: in the election. Abortion rights have been a focal point

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Speaker 1: and so here's a bit of that chat. Hello Premier

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miles, thank you so much for joining the Daily

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Speaker 4: Good thanks for having me and your listeners.

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Speaker 1: So TDA has a younger audience. Many of our listeners

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Speaker 1: are juggling things like work and study. How do you

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Speaker 3: Well, one of the things we've done that I know

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Speaker 4: So that's one of the things.

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Speaker 3: We have a really comprehensive housing plan that's about delivering

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Speaker 1: So in Queensland, landlords can only increase rents once a year.

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Speaker 1: Will you consider capping rent hikes if you are re elected.

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Speaker 3: We've ruled out capping rent hikes because every time we

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Speaker 3: And so that's why we've stuck with our current approach,

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Speaker 4: So we banned practices like rent bidding.

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Speaker 1: Moving on to crime, there's been a lot of discussion

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Speaker 3: So this is one of the things that I really

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Speaker 3: that continued reduction. The LMP have been very clear that

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Speaker 4: They don't have a plan.

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Speaker 3: For cheaper power or cheaper fuel or addressing the cost

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. Your opponent, David chris a Fully from

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Speaker 3: Well, those policies are just really poorly thought through. Like

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Speaker 4: Detained by about fifty percent.

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Speaker 3: He has no plan to deliver the additional beds in

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Speaker 4: He can't answer simple questions.

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Speaker 3: About where he would accommodate the additional detainees, and it

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Speaker 4: The fact is that all.

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Speaker 3: Crime is very complex and addressing it requires a comprehensive plan,

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Speaker 3: not just a slogan.

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Speaker 1: The Northern Territories lowered its age of criminal responsibility back

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Speaker 3: We don't know, but we do plan to and have

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Speaker 1: You're probably on social media more than any other politician

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Speaker 4: That's what I've tried to do. I've tried to do

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Speaker 1: This Saturday, Queensland will ultimately give their verdict on your leadership,

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Speaker 3: Change isn't always better and David Chris Fouley is campaigning

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Speaker 3: But that's what I'm campaigning for, a mandate to do

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Speaker 3: There's so much evidence that the return on investment from

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Speaker 1: Going back to sort of where I started, TDA does

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Speaker 3: I want them to hear that I've got their back,

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Speaker 1: Premier Stevin Miles, thank you so much for joining the

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me, Harry.

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Speaker 2: That was a very interesting chat. It's good to hear

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. Thirty two of the past thirty five

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is the polls have shown Labor was on

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Speaker 1: We love Queenslanders. Let us know what you think in

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