1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's had Samuel Johnson just on the show 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: before and he's got a new book, Letters to Mum. Yeah, 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: it's called Dear Mum. And he approached me about it. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: And it's the stuff that I often think about. Is 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: I do it every day? The stuff I want to 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: tell mom when my kids were little, when Mum passed away, 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: so she knew I had them, and that was so 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: important to me after a long IVF struggle. She knew 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: that I had two boys. But every day there are 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: things I think, oh, gee, she'd love to hear that, 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: or g she'd think that was funny, and wouldn't you 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: be proud of the boys. And I met your mum 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: a few times, Yeah, and she's nicely. Oh she was 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: a fabulous woman. And but separate to being nice and 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: fabulous and all of that, there's such a seam of 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: stuff with your mom, good and bad and to live 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: your life. It's been sixteen seventeen years since Mom passed away. 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: To sit down and write the letter, Look, I'll just 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: read it and I'll try and you know, I'm going 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: to try and read it and give you some out 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: of my nose as I go. So I don't cry. 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Here we go. How are that hell? Dim Um? There 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: are still times when I go to call you, it 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: seems inexplicable to me that you actually died. I used 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: to wonder how it would feel, and after sixteen years, 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm still not sure. The main thing I want to 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: tell you is that I get it now. I understand 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: that all those times I thought you were smothering or controlling, 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: they were just manifestations of love, and I hope my 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: boys will one day understand that of me. Liam left 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: home at the beginning of the year to begin his 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: university life, and I fell to pieces. I was right 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: back to being seventeen and leaving home for UNI myself. 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Had I given you and Dad a backward glance? Had 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: I had an iota of insight into how you were 36 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: feeling as I left my childhood behind? Did you find 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: it hard to let me go? I missed you terribly 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: As I cried over Liam's departure and the clothes you 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: made me to take away to UNI. I was embarrassed 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: by the butterick patterns and the homemade jumpers. I wanted 41 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: a shop at the Army disposal store. I felt you 42 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: didn't see me, but I know now that loves are 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: doing work, and every trip to the fabric department of 44 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Maya was an act of love. Jack was so young 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: when you died. You would have laughed at the boys 46 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: at your ceremony. I know you didn't want a funeral. 47 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: Liam dragged Jack around the floor by his arms. It 48 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: was a nice diversion on the hardest of days. When 49 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Jack was five, he said, I wish I knew Grandma 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: when I had a brain. Me too. You would love 51 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: these boys. They are now actually fine young men, and 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: I'd tell them often how proud you'd be of their achievements. 53 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: I find it hard to talk about you without weeping. 54 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm crying writing this, and here I'm crying reading it. 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: I get a kick to the heart when I see 56 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: your handwriting. And despite the fact you didn't like having 57 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: your photo taken, I have your pictures all over the house. 58 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Most importantly, I want you to know that your determination 59 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: for me to have an education and pursue a career 60 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: has afforded me a wonderful and challenging life and a 61 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: hot POKEE to you credit and I missed you every day. 62 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: Sorry to begin a sentence with ann at least I 63 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: didn't end it with a preposition. She was an English pattern. 64 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: She would know that all my apostrophes are in the 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: right place. And she was always obsessed with teeth. Remember 66 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: as well, her dad was a dentist, so she judge 67 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: people on their teeth because she only knew me when 68 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: I had bad teeth. Brendan, of all the things she's 69 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: missed in life, I think we can let that one go. 70 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: She put in Jones got his teeth fixed, shame about 71 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: his brain. Jonesy and Amanda's