1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're dose of the hottest 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture years twice a week. I'm Sophie 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Torbert and I'm joined by my sisters and journalists Kate 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and Amy. On today's show, Tarlia Scines labels her former 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: relationship as toxic Ruby. Tuesday, Matthew's brand is accused of 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: allegedly coppying but Taga. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: And Love Island's tick Gate. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: But first, Kate, you are joining us from the confines 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: of your house because you have been struck down with 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: the VID. 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: It's finally got you. 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the first out of all three of us 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: to have COVID. We were joking on the weekend that 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: we thought we were maybe immune, maybe that we had 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: some gene from the Torbers that was immune because our 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: cousin was living with his girlfriend and managed to dodge it. Anyway, 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Race got home from a trip to Perth and brought 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: it back and I thought maybe I was going to 19 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: dodge it, but no, sadly, I tested positive on Wednesday. Now, 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: so if I'm surprised that you actually referred to COVID 21 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: as the VID, because there was a time when you 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: didn't even know that VID. When our cousin referenced it 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: meant COVID. This was six months ago. I wasn't down 24 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: with all the cool kid lingo. So it's funny though, 25 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: because six months ago it was such a big deal 26 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: to get COVID. Now I feel like it's an old 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: news story, like I just yeah, I just feel like 28 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: it's you know, no one cares. My mum did leave 29 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: me a care package, which is really sweet. Yeah, she 30 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: dropped off some stuff from the bakery and cooked me soup. 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: So thank you mom. That was a highlight of my day. 32 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: I mean feeling bad because my sympathy levels have been 33 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: quite low because I was really sick last week and 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: I almost wanted the title of COVID, so people felt 35 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: bad for me. But I think I just had a 36 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: common cold or flu. 37 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: Also times, I'm really excited about the name. By the way, 38 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: it's really cute. I'm love it personally. I just can't 39 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: think of anything else that I would call him. 40 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Chloe Zepp has dropped a baby name Clue. Six weeks 41 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: out from giving birth to her second son, The controversial 42 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: influencer shared a family photo on Thursday with the caption 43 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: parents of two very soon one point five months to 44 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: go until we meet baby s little hint for his name, 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: any guesses now? Equally as controversial influencer Sarah's Day responded, 46 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: writing I think soul or sat can't wait for you 47 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: both to enjoy the bliss of two gorgeous boys. Now, 48 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: I've got to say it's gonna be very controversial if 49 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Chloe and Mitch go with the name Saint, because it 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: actually is banned by the Register of Birth, Death and Marriages. 51 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: Isn't that the name of el Darby's baby as well? 52 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit common. It's almost like 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Tom Dick or Harry for influencers to call their saint. 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: They need something more unique. 55 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Is it just for like controversial influences or like these 56 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: certain names that they have to pick from. Well, it 57 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: was made famous by Kim Kardashian, so you could obviously 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: call your baby Saint if you live in the UK 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: or the US, but not here in Australia. Now, what 60 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: do you guys think Chloe and Mitch will call their 61 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: baby Because I'm going to say, I'm putting on the record. 62 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: I think it has something to do with the sun. 63 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking Sun Sunday or Sunny. I would just 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: die of shock if it was a normal name like Sam. 65 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: Can you imaginemost be a bigger thing? 66 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: Steven Stephen or Sam? 67 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I actually think Sam would be such a 68 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: cute name. 69 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: This name has just sprung to me. 70 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: It's like whispered in my ear, perhaps a bit like 71 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: how Chloe Zepp was given this name. 72 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: What about Sid? 73 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: Sid? I don't know Sid Artie and Sid is kind 74 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: of cute. 75 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: That is cute. 76 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: Get my ex dol friend's attention because I miss you. 77 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: I still love you. 78 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Simmy has continued his crusade to get his influencer 79 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: ex Sammy Robinson back. The rugby player posted a series 80 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: of posts on Instagram trying to get the fashion designer's attention. 81 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: He's desperate, please, culminated in a podcast interview where he 82 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: claims he's been successful and now, okay, what's going on. Well, 83 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: it's been a week of grafting for Jordan Simmy. On 84 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: the weekend, he announced he would be making his boxing debut, 85 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: taking on Justin Hodges in the undercart of a heavy 86 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: weight about On July twentieth, Now, he shared a reel 87 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: to Instagram promoting tickets to the event, but added this 88 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: at the end. 89 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: And hopefully get the dub and get my ex girlfriend's 90 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: attention because I miss you. I still love you. Anyways, 91 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: that's besides the point. 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: He then shared a photo dump on Instagram, including a 93 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: meme of the Cinderella Man movie poster, which he added 94 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: the text me over Russell Crowe and Sammy over renee Zelwiger. 95 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Now is it just me or does it seem like 96 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: he's trying to outdo the infamous PowerPoint presentation he created 97 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: for former influencer girlfriend Isabel Clark. It's crazy because every 98 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: week I feel like we're having to update the podcast 99 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: and one of these wildly embarrassing moves he's made to 100 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: try and get Sammy Robinson back, and this is just 101 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: taking it to an all new level. It's almost verging 102 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: almost on Kanye West vires remember on Valentine's Day when 103 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: he arrived with all those roses for Kim. Yeah, it's 104 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: getting a bit to the point where it's very uncomfortable 105 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: for everyone involved. Now. Things took a confusing twist on 106 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: Monday when Jordan was interviewed on sports podcast The Scope. Now. 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: During the interview, he spilt some absolute tea about his 108 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: relationship with Sammy. 109 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. 110 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 4: It's probably two months adom right, you lay out all 111 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 4: the facts right, and obviously missus gave me the flick, 112 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: got canceled, fucking almost lost my job. There was a 113 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 4: there was a part there where I was walking around 114 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: on eggshells. Didn't make too much this week, so and 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: then you know, fucking car engine blows up ten grand 116 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: to fix a lot of people? Would a lot of 117 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: that would break a lot of people. What did I do? 118 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: Eight weeks of boxing training, became a professional boxer, got 119 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 4: my girlfriend back, and I'm about to fucking change the world? 120 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: Skip like that? 121 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 5: Strong. 122 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: I came home strong. You always do stop me? 123 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Skipped? Now, what the hell is going on here? Do 124 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: you guys think he's actually back with Sammy? I don't 125 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: think that there has been this radio silence that Sammy 126 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: is trying to portray. I think there must be a 127 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: bit of talking going on behind the scenes. I feel 128 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: like she's thrown him a bone. There's more to this 129 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: than meets the eye, And maybe Sammy is demanding that 130 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: he changes and proves to her why they should be together, 131 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: or he wants people to think that they're back together, 132 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: because then guys might back off. That's a good point. 133 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they are sharing the office together. As we've 134 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: discussed many times. Jordan has an office downstairs and she 135 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: has one upstairs in the same building. So I feel 136 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: like he's got an advantage there in terms of he's 137 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: always there being seen. It's hard for her to stop 138 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: thinking about him. It is going to be extremely interesting 139 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: to see if Sammy attends the fight on July twentieth, 140 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: because I think that will be an obvious sign that 141 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: they are back together. Sammy Robinson would not be seen 142 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: dead at this fight. She cares about her image, particularly 143 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: now that she. 144 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: Has a large brand like one Mile. 145 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: I also think that she would be being advised from 146 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: her talent management agency not to go, because she is 147 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: a big deal for them and they would be investing 148 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: a lot of time and energy into making sure that 149 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: she makes the right strategic decisions. One. I mean, she's 150 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: not even following Jordan, which has to be a strategic 151 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: decision if she is apparently back with him. I'm sorry, 152 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: Max Connectors are not telling Sammy Robertson, Hey, you're not 153 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: allowed to hang around Jordan, Simmy. They previously, there were 154 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: rumors that they advised her to break up with Nick 155 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: because there were some awful rumors going around about him, 156 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: so they didn't want her to be associated with Nick. 157 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: They might advise her about stuff, but they would not 158 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: They would have no authority to tell her don't hang 159 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: out with you. 160 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: But I'm not saying they have authority. I'm saying they 161 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: would advise her. 162 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: The thing is, this is going to be incredibly embarrassing 163 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: for Sammy if it does come out, And as you said, 164 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good pr move at all. 165 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: So maybe that's why she is trying to keep her 166 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: on the lowdown. The thing is, say that they are 167 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: legitimately back together, it can't be helping the situation if 168 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: he's constantly posting these things about trying to get her 169 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: back as a joke, Like, it's not good for either 170 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: of them to continue this stuff online. It's embarrassing. 171 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 5: I just was on the phone for so long, like. 172 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: An hour and a half, pretty much on the phone 173 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: to my lawyer. Talia Scaines has given further insight into 174 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: her relationship breakdown with long term partner Mitch Third. The 175 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: travel influencer broke down on a recent vlog after receiving 176 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: a phone call from her lawyer Kate. 177 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: What happened? 178 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: Well, Talia has been dropping hints about an alleged legal 179 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: battle she's involved in with ex Mitch Third. However, this week, 180 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: it seemed like she's had enough of keeping quiet on 181 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: the matter, so Talia broke down in tears, labeling her 182 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: former relationship as toxic. Let's take a listen to what 183 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: she said. 184 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm gonn even include this in here, 185 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 5: but guys, I'm just so sick of dealing with shit 186 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 5: that I thought she'd have ended, you know, a long 187 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 5: time ago. 188 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: And I know I don't speak to you guys about 189 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 6: what I'm fucking having a song about right now. 190 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 5: I don't open up about it. 191 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 6: You guys have next to zero idea about this ship 192 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 6: that goes on. Sorry, you guys have literally no idea 193 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 6: about this shit that goes on behind closed doors. 194 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 5: But I'm just so over it. I'm so tired. I 195 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 5: just want to move on to the next chapter of 196 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: my life, but I constantly have this shit in the background. 197 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, I'm so so happy with so 198 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: many things in my life, but it's so stressful when 199 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 5: you have shit going on, Like you know, I got 200 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 5: out of my previous relationship because I wasn't happy. It 201 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: was a toxic relationship and it wasn't good shit. 202 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 6: But I hope I get an outcome soon, because yeah, 203 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 6: it's really difficult now. 204 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: Tarlie went on to say that everyone's been telling her 205 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: to be the bigger person, but she said it's really hard. 206 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: She also later in the vlog explained that she has 207 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: actually recorded bits where she's sort of gone off about 208 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: the situation before and then decided to keep them out 209 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: of the blog, but she said this time that she 210 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: was going to keep it in because she's always portraying 211 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: her life as positive and perfect, and she wanted to 212 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: show that actually there is shit that she's dealing with 213 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: and that she's been really stressed out lately. And I 214 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: felt really sorry for her because she said she's been 215 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of anxiety and she was dealing 216 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: with a similar thing this time last year, which is 217 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: the time that she and Mitch. 218 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: Actually broke up. 219 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: She said that it was at a point where she 220 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,239 Speaker 1: was trying to make this big life decision aka the breakup, 221 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: and that she couldn't eat and that she was stressed 222 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: and anxious. And I do think it's great that she 223 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: opened up about how she's feeling because it is so 224 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: easy for us to look at her life, her traveling 225 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: around and think everything's okay, but it clearly isn't. Now 226 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: the speculation is that the illegal matters involving their villa 227 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: and also the business that they form together, So it 228 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: would definitely be very stressful. And I wonder if she 229 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: has been motivated to put out this section of the 230 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: vlog because she has been seeing Mitch living the high 231 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: life on his overseas trips at the moment, and it 232 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: would be absolutely infuriating if someone did owe you money. 233 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: It is an allegation at the moment, but if someone 234 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: did owe me money and all I saw was them holidaying, 235 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: living the high life, well that would. 236 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: Be pissed off. 237 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it might not be a case of someone 238 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: owing someone money. It might be who has the legal 239 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: rights to this business? 240 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: What does it mean? You just don't know what's going on. 241 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: I also think it would be frustrating because not trying 242 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: to take away from Mitch Third's Third Fix company, but 243 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: it's safe to say that he managed to get so 244 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: much brand exposure for his drink bottles based on the 245 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: fact that he was dating such a big influencer and 246 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: she was the face of a lot of his campaigns, 247 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: so it would be hard to help someone be successful. 248 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: And then obviously they're going through something privately. Now that's 249 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: not good. Well, I remember there was a stage where 250 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize they were his drink bottles. I 251 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: thought that she must have this huge brand deal with 252 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: this drink bottle company, and it was quite clever because 253 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: it made the brand seem more established than some you know, 254 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: lounge room product that her boyfriend was pushing. 255 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: As sub Kitti Haron wearing army pants and flip flups. 256 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: So I bought army pants and flip flaps. 257 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: On Sunday, Ruby Tuesday Matthew's launch sustainable dressing gown brand Roby. 258 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: The robes appear to tick all the right boxes in 259 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: terms of sustainability and inclusive sizing. However, there's one small hitch. 260 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: Followers have pointed out the design and marketing of the 261 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: robes is very similar to Bataga's robes. Amy, can you 262 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: tell us more about these robes in question? Yeah. Also, 263 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: if it's clear that Ruby has worked hard to make 264 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: sure her brand is sustainable because the robes are designed 265 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: in Australia and said to be responsibly made in Portugal, 266 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: so they retail for three hundred and forty nine dollars 267 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: and are only available via pre order. On the website, 268 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: it says we have crafted small, unique drops to ensure 269 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: no overproduction or waste, thus creating collectors items that will 270 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: last a life time. So the a dressing gown or 271 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: a robe, sorry, the last a lifetime. I mean, yeah, 272 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: it is three hundred and forty nine dollars, but I mean, 273 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: who's spending that much on a rope? 274 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: I got a rope? 275 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: You're laughing, you're laughing, But I swear Dad has had 276 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: the same red robe for probably thirty years. Yeah, but 277 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: that would have been from Big w We wouldn't pay 278 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: that much money, of course. 279 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: It wouldn't not. 280 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: But you can have a robe like I've have a 281 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: gray robe that I got from bed bathroom table. 282 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: I've had it for over ten years. 283 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: So maybe because I'm not a dressing gown person, I 284 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like I'm in my pajamas all day. 285 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: If I get around in a dressing gown, I feel gross. 286 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: All I'd be wearing at the moment while working from 287 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: home is a dressing gown. 288 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: It's great. 289 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: Now back to these robes. The awkward thing is that 290 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: followers have pointed out that the green robe looks very 291 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: similar to Botaga's rope. Now I've had a look and 292 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: there are definitely big similarities to the Potaga robes. It 293 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: even has a similar check like pattern on it. And 294 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: to make matters worse, the model Ruby has used in 295 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: the campaign for Roby looks very similar to the model 296 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: used in the Potaga campaign. And for those who haven't 297 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: seen it, it's not just your typical run of the 298 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: mill model. It's actually an older woman who has gray hair, 299 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: so something that you don't normally see in a lot 300 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: of ad campaigns, which is why it really stuck out. 301 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: On a side note, it is great to see some 302 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: older models actually being used in campaigns like this, and 303 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: I do feel for Ruby Tuesday Matthews because I think 304 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: a lot of strategy has been put into the brand, 305 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: more so than some of these cheap brands that we 306 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: see on the market that are driven by influencers, Because 307 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: it would take a lot of effort to ensure that 308 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: it was sustainably made. The thing is Sophie. I feel 309 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: like it's really a bare minimum now that we expect 310 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: for a brand to be sustainable, and it is great 311 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: that influencer brands are becoming more sustainable, but at the moment, 312 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: I think it's more a part of a marketing ploy 313 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: because she knows that people are going to go off 314 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: if she's not offering something sustainable. It's usually the first 315 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: thing brands get slammed by, which is why I'm so 316 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: confused as to why she would then produce a product 317 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: that looks so similar to a designer piece. Do you 318 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: think that perhaps she's done it purposely to create a conversation, 319 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: because maybe she wants the robe to be seen as 320 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: a dupe for the Botaga one because a lot of 321 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: people do want it. Maybe well, as we've spoken on 322 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: the podcast numerous times, there's actually nothing legally wrong with 323 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: what she has done, so it could be a clever 324 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: marketing ploy because obviously Botaga's robes are a lot more expensive, 325 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: and basically it seems like you're getting a very similar 326 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: product with Ruby's robe. I also think it's really hard 327 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: for brands to be really unique at the moment, you know, 328 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: there's only so many different designs, patterns, colors. It's literally 329 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: the same color and the same sort of pattern on 330 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: a robe. Like as Amy said, No, she hasn't done 331 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: anything legally wrong except if Botaga has trademarked the robe 332 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: and that they do have the exclusive right for that design. 333 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: But I doubt it because, as you said, it's not 334 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: ultra different. The design was you've never seen before. There 335 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: were elements of the desig that were different if you 336 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: put under a microscope. I do wonder if we don't 337 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: feel that sorry for big designer brands that are being copied. 338 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: Though, because it's like, well, they make so much money. 339 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: That being said, when large influencers do it who are 340 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: also making a lot of money, we do get a 341 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: bit pissed off. And that's why I got so upset, 342 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: and I was so taken back by it because he 343 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: come back on his own, So I'm like. 344 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 345 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Following months of speculation, Love Island twenty twenty one winners 346 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: Milli Court and Liam Riordan announced they've called it quits 347 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: on their year long romance. So if you're a big 348 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: Milli Court fan, I know you've been very upset by this. Announcement. 349 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: What happened, that's right, okay. 350 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: I have been really upset about this and as you mentioned, 351 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: for months, things haven't seen quite right and the couple 352 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: have been plagued by breakup rumors. And these rumors have 353 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: been fueled by the fact that Milly and Liam have 354 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: spent longer periods of time apart from one another, which 355 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: they put down to working on in individual projects. Now, 356 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: things first seemed off when last month Milly attended her 357 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: fashion launch event with fellow Love Island contestant Lacinda, but 358 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Liam was nowhere to be seen. Milly also went on 359 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: what's being described by the tabloids as a wild girl's 360 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: holiday ty Betha with fellow Love Island cast members. Meanwhile, 361 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: Liam was spotted in his hometown of Wales spending time 362 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: with friends. And it's safe to say that Milly really 363 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: has thrown herself into her work with Aesos. She has 364 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: been doing a lot of shoots away for recent campaigns 365 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: and during that time Liam has been hanging out with 366 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: friends in London. Now, they did recently jet off to 367 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: Portugal together two weeks ago to attend a friend's wedding 368 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: and they shared some very loved up photos, which seemed 369 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: to put those breakup rumors at rest. However, on Wednesday night, 370 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: they stunned fans by both sharing a statement confirming the breakup. Kate, 371 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: what did they say in that statement? Well, Milly wrote 372 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: on her Instagram story, It's been a tough decision and 373 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: I'm gutted, but it's all ultimately what is best for 374 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: us right now. Thank you to every single one of 375 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: you for supporting our relationship. Nothing will ever take away 376 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: from the amazing experience we shared in Love Ireland in 377 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: the past year, and I wish Liam all the best 378 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: in everything he does. We're both ready for new chapters 379 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for what's next. 380 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: Love MILLI Now. 381 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: Liam echoed Millie's sentiments, writing a near identical message now So, 382 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you read into it the same 383 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: as I did, but both mentioned that it was best 384 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: for them right now. Do you think that means that 385 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: there's eddy room for them to get back together? 386 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 2: Well, wish for thinking. 387 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: Me thought that maybe they were leaving the door opened, 388 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: because they do seem incredibly busy with their careers at 389 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: the moment. They're both very young, so maybe they're hoping 390 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: that they will be able to get back together at 391 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: some stage when their calendars align. I mean, it must 392 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: have been a big decision for the couple because they 393 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: did move in with each other following the show, so 394 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Liam left his family in Wales and moved to Milly's 395 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: hometown of Essex, where they rented a really beautiful So 396 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: this probably did put their relationship on fast forward a 397 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: bit and put a bit of pressure on them. They 398 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: are very young, as I mentioned well. The timing of 399 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: the split is very curious though, because Love Ireland have 400 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: just aired Cassa a Moore and there's been a lot 401 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: of speculation going around that perhaps this year's Cassa are 402 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: more opened up old wounds for Liam and Milly. 403 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. 404 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: There were very wild scenes last year in Cassa Moore 405 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: and they were very focused on Milli and Liam because 406 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: Liam acted like a complete jerk in Cassra Moore, so 407 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: Milly was pining over him and basically Liam almost forgot 408 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: she existed. He did a three way kiss with a 409 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 1: bunch of girls and then he also made out with 410 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: Cassa a Moore girl Lily, and this was outside of 411 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: a challenge and Liam's actions were revealed in a very 412 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: devastating postcard, which I wish they brought the postcards back 413 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: this year. Well, I think they got a lot of 414 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: criticism for sending the postcard and causing stress. Now I 415 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: do feel like it's safe to say that Millie would 416 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: be watching the current Love Island series and seeing a 417 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: lot of similarities between Liam's behavior and that of Jack's. 418 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: So for those who are not watching, I really question 419 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: why not? But Jacks is in a strong couple with 420 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: fan favorite Page and he ended up hooking up with 421 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: another girl but then chose to recouple with Paige. Well, 422 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Milly actually acknowledged these similarities in a TikTok she shared 423 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, so it had her in 424 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: the car with the caption point of view watching Casar 425 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Moore recoupling. She then mimed a Euphoria quote which said, wait, 426 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: is this fucking play about us? This video has led 427 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: to a lot of fans speculating that maybe this has 428 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: brought up bad memories from their time on the show. 429 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: One follower wrote, Milly and Liam breaking up just after 430 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: Castra Moore showing her exactly what he did, surely not 431 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: a coincidence. Another wrote Milly and Liam broke up. Yeah, 432 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: that Casta Moore season opened some old wounds. There have 433 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: also been a lot of wild rumor circulating that cheating 434 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: may have also played a part in this split. So 435 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: there is a rumor doing the rounds on Twitter, so 436 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: please do take this with a grain of salt. So 437 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: the rumor is that Liam was seen exiting a bathroom 438 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: stall with a girl at the Wireless Festival. And I 439 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: do want to question the legitimacy of this rumor because 440 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: at most festivals they have portaloos, so surely no one 441 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: is hooking up or having sex in a portal loop. Yeah, 442 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: but Sophy, he would be a a lister at the festival, 443 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: so maybe he is having access to better toilets. 444 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: So it's maybe one of those glam toilets setups. 445 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well. There is also another rumor floating around that 446 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Liam only stayed with Millie to better his career, and 447 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: that they had a contract saying that they had to 448 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: stay together for a year. Now. I really hope this 449 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: is not true. It's hard though, because obviously it is 450 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: going to be a better career move to stay with 451 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: the person that you coupled up with on Love Island, 452 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: particularly for Liam because as soon as I mean, they 453 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: obviously won, and there were a lot of speculation that, oh, 454 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't actually lie her, he cheated on her, he's untrustworthy, 455 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: so maybe he wanted to stick it out to prove 456 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: to the general public that he was actually a nice guy. 457 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: I do also think that men from Love Island become 458 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: irrelevant once they're no longer with that person or in 459 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: that couple, And it is really women who are the 460 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: big winners from the show because they're the ones who 461 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: go on to have these brand deals and really connect 462 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: with that female audience. 463 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: Ahead of music at Love Island. 464 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 7: And what I do is I get the footage of 465 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 7: the guys in the villa and then I match that 466 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 7: to music. Biggest challenge today it's probably been Titgate. How 467 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 7: do you match tonally Andrew saying yeah, I sucked at 468 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 7: it or whatever. But when I heard this, I was like, 469 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 7: this is how Andrew feels about Titgate. 470 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: Now, just a warning, we are going to be talking 471 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: about Love Island, so there may be a few spoilers 472 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: in here now. Love Island contestants have always been discreete 473 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: about what happens under the covers, often using euphemisms for 474 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: what's going on. However, this year Titgate has changed it all, Sophie, 475 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: what has happened? Twitter and TikTok are going wild for 476 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: tit Gate at the moment. And as you said, Kate, 477 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: because contestants usually are quite discreet about what happens in 478 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: the bedroom, I think this is why it has gone wild. 479 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: So usually when referencing any sort of sexual activity, this year, 480 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: the girls have been chatting about beauty salons with certain 481 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: acts relating to a manicure or treatment, So the contestants 482 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: rarely explicitly go into details of what has actually happened. 483 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: That was until Titgate, as it's been called. So Cassa, 484 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: a more bombshell Coco Lodge, came into the villa and 485 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: really shook things up, and it's being described as the 486 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: funniest moment in Love Ireland history. So Andrew was forced 487 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: to admit to his original partner Tash that he didn't 488 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: just kiss Cocoa like she believed, but he had actually 489 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: sucked or licked on her. Tit we need to throw 490 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: to the grab to give this moment justice. 491 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 7: I didn't really think that was much more to it. 492 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 7: But yeah, basically. 493 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: She's told the guys that are. 494 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 5: Like sucked her TETs or whatever, like let whatever, And 495 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 5: before it comes out of anyone asked, I want to 496 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 5: tell you. 497 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: What made this moment so funny for me was the 498 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: quick b line he made to go and tell Tash 499 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: about what had happened. So basically, Coco had approached Andrew 500 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: and told him that she had accidentally let slip to 501 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: a few people in the villa what had happened. So 502 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: in the space of seconds, Andrew rushes over to Tash, 503 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: tells whoever is with her to go away, and then 504 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: jumps into telling her that he sucked on Coco's tits. 505 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: And I just think that he didn't even. 506 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: Have time to process what he was going to say, 507 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: so he was trying to make it sound less bad 508 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: by saying, Oh, I didn't suck on her tit, I 509 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: licked her tit. 510 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 2: I did love Luca's reaction. 511 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: He was joking with the boys that Andrew would have 512 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: been like, oh, but it was only one tit, not 513 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: both of the tits. Now, Grazia did a great piece 514 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: on tit Gate, and they brought up two really great points. 515 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: So firstly, they said that in the real world, if 516 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: you cheated on someone, you would never go into that 517 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: amount of specific detail that you licked a tit. And secondly, 518 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: they brought up about boundaries with the Islanders and said 519 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to cheating is truly bizarre because if 520 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: it's during a challenge, nobody really bats an eyelid and 521 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 1: everyone screams, but it was just in a challenge. Also, 522 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: it seems like kissing someone not in a challenge while 523 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: they're in casseromore is a bit bad, but not a 524 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: complete crime. However, the Islanders are obsessed with what it 525 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: means to actually kiss in bed and they seem to 526 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: deem that as it's not showing any respect if you 527 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: do that. So, for example, contestant Dammy said he would 528 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: happily kiss someone anywhere but the bedroom as that felt 529 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: too intimate, as in anyone from Cassa and more not 530 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: his actual partner. Yeah, exactly. So Garzia concluded that rarely 531 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: do Islanders actually admit to the intimate acts that they 532 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: get up to in bed, which is why titgate feels 533 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: so huge. And as I said, titgate did spread quickly 534 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: on TikTok and Twitter, so one user road imagine being 535 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: Andrew and having to say you sucked a tit and 536 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: then tried to make it better by saying I licked 537 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: at tit. Flipping heck, I'm dead. Another said Andrew awkwardly 538 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: telling Tasha that he licked at tit. 539 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: Is probably the best thing I've ever seen on TV. 540 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: And I have to agree, this series of Love Island 541 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: is the best I've ever seen. 542 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm putting it out there. It is incredible. Go and 543 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: watch it. 544 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: It's so good And the funniest part of it all 545 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: is it's so predictable because all the girls were pissed 546 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: off about coming back and their guys had sort of, 547 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, got with other girls and Cassa Moore, yet 548 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: they all get back with them. I knew it was 549 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: going to happen. Well, I think that's what we've got 550 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: time for today. 551 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: Now. 552 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: Today's podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the 553 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. Will you pay respect 554 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: to Elder's past, present and emerging now? 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