WEBVTT - Could Childless People Start Getting Taxed? 💸 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:07.080 The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast brought Welcome to the 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:07.840 Party Party. 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:10.879 It is us two little girls running around the forest, 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:15.319 carefree and totally cute and nice. On this episode, we're 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.480 talking about a little situation I had a few days 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.560 ago at a cafe. Two men sitting beside me speaking 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:29.760 in the somewhat unsavory ways about a certain demographic here 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.920 in Sydney, and I responded in a way that I 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:35.400 thought maybe at the time was Karen. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.760 Upon reflection, was it right? Was it wrong? 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.080 Is this indicative of a larger problem that I'm not 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:46.080 yet ready or willing to face, which is racial what 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:46.680 do you call it? 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:47.600 Inequalities? 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:48.240 I guess. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.440 So we're just gonna be reckoning with that. It's a 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.159 short one. I think we need to go into this 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.800 in more depth later on. I need to collect my thoughts. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:57.360 Chap, you are great. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:04.280 Chapter one of the chapter Lifelong, three part sequel. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.280 We need clown college for this shit. Anyway, let's go 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.120 Flecks and Frooms. 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:15.000 It's not very often I come across videos on TikTok 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.360 that render me a little bit speechless, not because I 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.280 don't have any thoughts, but because I am surprised at 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.560 the person who is speaking has that thought. So this 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.520 guy I don't really know his content that well, but 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.640 he comes up on my page quite a bit. You 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.920 can definitely tell he makes the classic what a man 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:37.119 thinking content that's marketed to women or just providing a 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.560 safe space for him and his guy friends to talk 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:44.720 about general stuff that's not, you know, doused in traditional masculinity. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.640 So listen to this video he's posted and let me 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.040 know how this makes you feel. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.040 I've never met a girl that I like enough to 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.840 where it's like, I would love to hang out with 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.000 you just as a friend all the time, never, I 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:56.440 don't think. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.360 So WHOA, So you don't have any girlfriends? 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.920 Well, it's like, what do you classify as friend? Like, 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:02.760 you're my friend, Yeah, we hang out a lot. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.440 I guess I'm kind of the same. I have girls 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.360 that I say are my friends, but none that I 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:07.800 hang out with all the time. I don't know if 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.000 that's me like just perceiving that relationship in a weird 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:12.760 way or no. It's it's hard to be friends with 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.280 the opposite sex because sex is going to ruin it. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.360 Yeah, and the odds of you, it's like, and what 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.560 do you do? Just explically pick girls to be your 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:20.600 friends that you find. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.959 Ugly, like you're my friend because I'm not attracted to 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.480 you like introd friends are girls. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:27.960 And she looks around, she's like, wait a. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:34.680 Minute, that's what we said, like to the world say 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.320 no ridiculous things, and then laughing about it and then 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.680 just moving on. So let's get to the key points 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.600 of what's just been discussed. The first point is that 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.040 they both agree they've never met a girl that they 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.000 feel like they can just be friends with and hang 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.560 out with all the time, platonic vibes like they would 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:57.399 with their guy friends, and that they can't imagine being 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.760 in a scenario where like they would be friend a 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.960 girl they don't have some kind of attraction too. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.160 In jest, kind of said that, you know, the only 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.200 reason that would work if she was ugly, But like, 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.919 why would I be friends and an ugly girl type 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:13.919 of thing? Was that surprising to you to hear? 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:15.280 Well? 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.919 I can hear from their voices the exact type of men. 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:22.120 These are these little American podcast bros, our brothers. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.480 Our kin, our bread rackin and. 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:27.840 I must be ugly because I got a lot of 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.480 male friends and there's no sexual at. 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.200 Tension tension, chemistry. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.480 No, well there's like I have chemistry with me. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.680 You kiss your friends, so yeah, but I don't like 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.280 for example, Marty Smiley, he does the sleeping on weekends 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.040 here at Catera with Nat. We are really good friends. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.960 He's one of my good friends. Of course, There's never 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.160 been any sexual attention, never any interest. And would I 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.040 say that I'm ugly. Maybe we do a poll, Maybe 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.480 we ask these guys, let's reply on the DM and say, 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.960 what do you think they don't have any female friends. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.680 I'm making an assumption, but this is what I think 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:05.240 because they can't see past women. They don't see women 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.680 as the same fully formed being as them. Because at 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.840 the end of the day, I believe there's no difference 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.960 between men and women. I think they have an issue 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:14.000 with how they view women. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.800 Clearly, I know a ton of women who don't have 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.240 male friends. I know a ton of men who don't 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.200 have women friends. Not in the way that he's describing, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.800 where it's like, if I'm going to go out to 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.960 Kiki with my girlies, I'll go out to KICKI with 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.880 the guys. The same same. If I'm you know, sending 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.279 the girlies a little TikTok meme, I'm sending the guys 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.960 the same same like replicating the same kind of friendship 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:40.520 with everybody despite their gender or non gender. That's what 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.000 he's describing that. I think I can imagine that, like 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.720 I have guy friends that I would do that with. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.040 But I don't think it's uncommon that people do not. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.000 It's not. It's a very common thing to not have 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.599 like a broad spectrum of friends. But the bit where 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.680 he drops off is this idea of, but why would 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.599 we just be friends if there's a possibility in some 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.560 real maybe not this universe, but one of them, that 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.680 we could potentially sleep together. It's almost like the idea of, 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.599 like the possibility of there being a sexual connection means 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.839 that this cannot stay platonic, Like if we were just 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.520 to be in a room together, we'd have no choice 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:17.960 that's gonna happen. 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:20.360 I was powerless in that moment. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.000 Yeah, I get the point they're making, but they kind 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.440 of out of themselves in the way that like the 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.880 inability to see women or the women that they're interacting 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.800 with as anything but like sexual potential. If the opportunity 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.039 were to arise and in order to not ruin the 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:42.440 potential for a future sexual relationship. We cannot be friends. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.320 Yeah, and I don't even think they know that themselves. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.080 They didn't do a follow up, so you know, we 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:49.720 won't ever know. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:54.479 But I think that what one quite bold statement. 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.000 No follow up, but I will say the comments really interesting. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.400 They were like, wow, all men with Mike her friends 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.520 are the same exactly because these guys had us for 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.200 a second. They were like, We're not like them, We're 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:10.680 different kinds of guys. This is flex and frooms on. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.400 It's not often we talk about Dolly Parton. I don't 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.159 think I've ever talked about her. Actually, no. One time 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.120 it was at this festival in Hobart and there was 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.760 this drag show and the theme was Dolly Parton, so 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.680 everybody dressed up as Dolly Parton in different eras and ages. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.400 And I'm not really familiar with Dolly like that, so 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.359 I don't really know, but it was enjoyable. Nonetheless, plenty 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.360 of celebrities are subject to really absurd rumors about their careers. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.560 Some are true, some are merely you know, observations, some 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.320 are just conspiracy theories, but none as peculiar as this 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.240 one that Dolly Parton has been subject to a couple 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.880 of years ago, people were speculating whether her husband of 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:53.080 fifty something years was even real because nobody has quote 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.799 unquote ever seen him ever, not even a little peep. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.200 And so I don't know what she was doing in 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.480 twenty twenty that she's doing so many media interviews, But 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.960 that was the go to question, are you still with 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.160 your husband? Where is he? And if you've really been 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.840 together for fifty plus years, why aren't you sharing him 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.840 more often? She basically said, like, I don't want to 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:19.920 show him because like I don't want to show him facts. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.640 I said, okay, let's cut the cameras bay, but no, 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.080 she went on to say, like, he doesn't want to 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.320 be in the spotlight. It's not who he is. He's 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.720 a quite reserved person. And also he's not the most 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.680 interesting thing about me. She's like, it wasn't even a 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.160 conscious effort not to share him. He's just not a musician, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.440 he's not a celebrity. He's just a random guy that 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.760 I love that I got married to. He does not 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.440 need to be integrated at all. And what I think 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:45.080 is really interesting is she didn't necessarily get backlash. People 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:49.240 were kind of like Okay, people don't believe. Yeah, alright, no, right, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.440 why is it so hard to believe? And then I 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.680 had another thought that I'm still trying to process. But 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.280 I was thinking about how we're definitely like women celebrities, 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:05.920 how easily their partners become like cornerstones of their popularity. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.760 Like I was thinking about how Pete Davidson went from 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.400 like a full on comedian with his own separate career. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.480 Now he's Kim Kardashian's professional handbag, like man stays in 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.440 the back of her photos with the sonnies on hoodie 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.440 on what are you there? Like, what do you do now? 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:23.480 Man handbag? 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.600 Yeah, it's fascinating. And then I think about the Ariana 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.200 Grande's of the world, like the Rihanna's of the world. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.920 I don't necessarily see it working the other way around. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.400 Like I can imagine Rihanna does an interview, somebody wants 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.640 to know, like tell us about who you're dating, and 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:44.360 then how's that going? What's Rihanna's boyfriend's name, asap Rocky? 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.200 Asap Rocky does an interview, are they asking Hi about 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.560 Rihanna in the same way? I don't know. I wouldn't 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.160 imagine I can imagine I would read a whole Tyler 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.520 Creator interview and not get any reference to a boyfriend 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.680 or a partner. But it's just a speculation. I'm still 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:58.320 processing that. 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.920 I think it's cool, perfect, like it's kind of been 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.240 a defining career thing of Dolly as well, the fact 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.680 that she hasn't shown him because it's so unusual, because 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.040 she's so big and she's been so big for a 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.040 long time. She's so cool. I'd recommend going and watching 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.360 the documentary about her. It's so smart. She's like the 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:22.600 definition of diplomatic. She made a lot of political statements 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.240 through her songs, but she never made political statements because 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:30.800 so much of her audience is like midwestern. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.920 I get it precisely, but she's quite progressive. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.160 Did she do it that one time? No? And then 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.079 we kept playing the song again and again and again again. 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:38.439 Well did she continue to make statements? 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:38.880 No? 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.559 There's this song Joline is a big one. Yeah, it's 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:48.520 Joline that's about sisthood. Yeah, so Dolly Parton and Fidelity 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:49.280 is a real. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:53.160 G This is Flex and Frooms on Kita NEWFLEXI. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:54.880 I know that you're always looking for a way to 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.040 make money. You're very much money minded, which I appreciate. 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.160 I like that you're very honest about that as well. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:01.920 Poe found it quite inspiring. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.000 What's that thing? Fifty cents said, get rich or die trying, 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:05.800 et cetera, et cetera. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:06.320 That's it. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.680 Apparently in the nineteen nineties there was a con by 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.120 a man, which I think is the most genius thing ever, 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.240 he said, men con. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.079 Doing what he does best. 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:22.679 This guy put an ad in the paper for selling 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.000 solar powered dryers for forty nine to ninety five, so 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:32.560 a way to dry your clothes using solar power. His 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.959 name was Steve Commisar and he was from California. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:37.920 I'm thinking like you mean the sun like. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.880 Since solar energy was one of the buzzwords of the 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.199 time the nineteen nineties, he put an advert in magazines 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.559 and newspapers selling this amazing new gadget, solar powered clothes dryers. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.440 Just forty nine ninety five people across America brought into 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.439 the idea and sent their money to get this incredible 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.560 advice that would help them cut bills and have their 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:04.080 clothes dry efficiently while saving the planet. They waited anxiously 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:04.960 for the mailman, and. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.120 We're trying to save the planet since the fifties nineteen nineties, 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:12.480 but I swear like since Nemo it's been on the brain. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.360 But before then it didn't exist. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.199 They waited anxiously for the mailman to deliver their new 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.559 solar powered clothes dryer, but when they received the parcel, 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.360 they couldn't believe their eyes. It was just an average 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.880 one of them more clothes line, yeah, my king, like 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.000 the type you buy at the iron monger's. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.479 They tried, an ironmonger does this kind? I know you're plagiarizing, 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.920 like those you can buy. They tried contacting the cellar 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.240 because the device had been it wasn't what it was expecting. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.240 They tried contacting the cellar because it wasn't what they 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.120 thought they bought. However, Steve replied what they received was 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.000 exactly what he was advertising. The product was an actual 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.880 drying device and it worked with solar energy, which is facts, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.319 and this is the truth of words. Words mean things. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.560 He eventually went to Shell due to other. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.160 Free my man, he didn't even do nothing. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.160 Where's Steve Comisan? 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.280 Now? I stand by him. That is just genius to me. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:18.480 And the thing that gets me is I think the 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:23.079 idea laughable. The fact that so many people fell for it, 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:27.360 that's the real issue right there. Your media literacy needs 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:27.720 a lag. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.000 They need to teach media literacy in schools. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:36.240 I swear you're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kita Flex. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.520 I was in a cafe yesterday. So I'm sitting next 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.160 to a man who is literally thirty centimeters away from me. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.760 Tight not COVID safe, not at all in this outbreak, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:51.280 be absolutely growing. But sitting there and the guy like 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.520 comes in and he's like what, I don't know if 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.760 boisterous is the right word, but like he's a man. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.280 He walks like his presence was noticed, his. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:04.320 Presence was definite noticed, and like no like smile or anything, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.480 kind of just keeping to himself. And he's like, Yep, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.440 I'm gonna order a coffee and I'm gonna order a 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.320 certain type of food for me and my friend. My 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.679 friend's coming ten minutes later, his friend. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:15.440 Rocked type of food. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.160 Why are you saying like that, because if I if 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.400 I dos what the food is, you'll know where I'm 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:19.800 talking about. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.040 Oh okay, right right right right? 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.439 Friend comes in, sits down, they start having a chat. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.160 Clearly they're like investment men. They're in there, ones in 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.840 like their forties. I was in probably in his fifties, sixties, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.200 and they start talking about their cars, like, have you 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.560 bought me more cars lately? 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.440 What's going on with your investments? 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.480 They're talking about like a company they invested in now 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.280 five years later it's worth five billion. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.080 Oh. I thought you meant they invest in cars, like 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.320 they didn't know cars were investments. I thought they'd appreciated 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:46.200 when you drove my fullot. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.280 Some do, some do increase in value. So I'm like 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.640 kind of listening in. I was actually preparing to come 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.440 into Cato, so I got my little notepad out. But 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.520 you know, as I am to do, if someone's thirty 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.040 centimeters away from me, I'm gonna ease drop. And so 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.040 I'm sitting there and these guys are talking about insurance 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.640 on their cars. So one's got a Porsche that he 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.040 drove there, and he also has. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.720 A Mercedes that he just bought. And the guy's like, oh, 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.520 tell me about Mercedes. He's like, you know. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.240 What, I got insurance for the Porsche, and then I 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:20.680 went to get insurance on the Mercedes and it's you know, 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.480 ten thousand dollars to insure it for one hundred thousand 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:23.920 dollar car. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.360 I don't get it. Why And he was saying. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.440 So I call my insurance was expensive two five because 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.480 I'm a peek player at twenty eight? What's the big deal? 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.160 The stitch up cause the insurance guy and he's like 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:38.800 can I I can't work it out. He's like, I 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.240 call this insurance guy who was really nice, and I said, 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.760 why is it? And the really nice insurance guy said, oh, 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.080 it's because insert ethnic the. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.720 Other way around, like, he said, is it because insert 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.680 ethnicity buy a lot of these cars? And then the 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:55.440 insurance guy was like. 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.400 Yeah, I think it was that way. I'm a bit 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.320 iffy on which way it was, but I'm pretty sure. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:00.520 Yeah. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.360 It was the guy at the cafe who said, is 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:07.280 it because ethnic minority drive Mercedes? And the insurance guy 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:12.160 was like yes. Upon hearing this, I look up from 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.280 my old cappuccino at the other guy. So the guy 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.640 saying it is next to me, and the guy listening 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.480 is opposite him. So I look up and make eye 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.119 contact with the guy that's listening, and he's looking. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.480 At me at that moment. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:25.680 Oh, so he clocked it. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:26.280 He clocked it. 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.240 Yeah, I give a little look, but then I look away, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.800 which it says enough if he clocked it. So I 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.600 look this guy in the eye, he clocks me, and 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.920 then in that kind of like fraction of a moment, 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:43.520 all these thoughts flew into my brain. I'm like, why 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.280 did I look up? Obviously I thought it was a 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.040 bit rude. Did I think it was rude? Because I'm 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.400 offended because I'm not even this ethnic minority and I'm 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:52.119 the same. 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.400 Ah, you're all white, we're all white. I'm with my people, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:01.360 and my people are community. My community's acting up, and 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.280 yet I am one of them. And so it's kind 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.760 of like a split second of like a am I 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:10.680 stepping out of bounds by like acknowledging this thing because 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:15.360 there's also a conversation to be had around listening into 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.960 other people's conversations, Like this was not a conversation that 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.960 I was a part of. It's in a public space. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.880 Yeah, however, almost asking for it. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.600 Let's not use that phrasing, please please, please please bring 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:28.280 that out a lot. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.080 And it's really not how my brain. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.680 I don't mean to say that, it's just something that 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.000 I fall into, but yeah, I thought, is it really 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.200 my place? To be I guess policing this. I felt 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.080 like I was policing it. Is it worth me doing that? 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.440 Because when I stand up for things in public, it 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.840 often goes badly because I have some sort of online presence, 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.160 And then you think. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:57.320 That's why it goes badly. Yeap, not your approach, probably nah, 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:02.400 But yeah, was it with me in that moment having 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:08.119 a look. I'm going to say, yes, it was the 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.600 thing that I want to understand because I'm painting a 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.560 mental picture is like the subtext behind it. We know 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.840 the context. What was the subtext when you looked up 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.679 and saw him looking at you? What was the realization 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.359 you think had happened in that split second that made 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:26.320 you have all these additional thoughts about his interaction, Because 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.760 I think what we discussed briefly before is that if 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.520 he didn't look at you, if he was just kind 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:34.320 of looking around, being just a passive listener to his 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.160 friend's insurance discussion, then you might not have had these 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.240 additional thoughts. But it was the fact that he had 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.440 looked at you as if to see if you had 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.479 noticed what his friend had said made you then second 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.120 guess your reaction. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:50.359 Yeah, I get that. 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.159 I think it was because he wasn't the one that 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.560 said it, so therefore I almost felt like I was 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.159 making him feel awkward because he's not the one that 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:04.480 said it and he knows there's a witness there seeing 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:08.119 him not do anything about it. And also kind of 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.879 with I felt judged because they're looking at this little girl, 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:12.080 this quirky little. 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.200 Angel cafe. 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:21.479 Last week and I'm looking up it's giving a liberal 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.920 vibe from me, liberal in the like Australian politically liberal sense, 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.439 And yeah, it just made me question when you're not 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:36.120 of the race or the ethnicity that they are making 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:43.399 judgments and what's it called stereotypes? Like exacerbating stereotypes? Is 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:50.040 it my place to like acknowledge that those phrases as 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.600 just a random lady in a cafe that has definitely 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.679 used the same term in a past life, like I 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.000 would be a reformed them people. 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.320 Is it my place or should by just studying my lane? 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.000 I think a better question is what scenarios do you 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.359 think it is your place to quote unquote police strangers. 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.320 See, this is the thing because this isn't the first 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:17.200 like restaurant conversation that I've overheard and felt angry about. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.800 I think it's an issue when it's properly impacting your 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:25.600 dining experience. Like, if it's properly racist stuff that's like 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.960 fully not acceptable, then you've got a right to like 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.359 give them the look or be like and like do 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.239 something that makes them feel uncomfortable back, Like I'm all 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.119 about the approach back, Like I don't like taking things 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.840 on and not punching back. 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:43.960 I get in bold and a bit more as I 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.800 get older and I'm around people and I see them 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.600 being negatively affected by the kind of people that make 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.679 these comments. And then what do you think the correlation 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:58.000 is between the instances where you have addressed somebody in 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.879 a discussion that you a part of, Like broadly, what 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:03.960 were they talking about that offended you that you were like, 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.320 I'm gonna say something, Well, if you've had any kind 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:11.200 of interaction with an altercation with someone based on something 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.080 that they said that you were a part of, what 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.280