WEBVTT - Hospital bans EV charging due to fire risk, plus Gordie goes drifting 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.000 Welcome everybody. This is me putting on a professional voice 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:14.040 because the last two intros Paul has deemed too offensive 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.880 and I'm not allowed to put them in. Sorry about 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.239 the delay in the show, everybody, We're a professional podcast. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:27.560 Moving forward. Just kidding, just kidding. Jake's guys, it's been 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.480 a while between drinks. Yeah, I blame you. Yes, I've 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.600 been away. You've been away. You were sick. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:35.879 At one point that we will meet to film, I 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.360 said I was sick, but yeah, I got that vibe. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:39.640 You sounded fine. Yeah. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.279 You know, right at the end of the call, when 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.120 someone calls in sick, they're like, oh shit, I got 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:44.080 a cough and then. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.960 Yeah, it was very much like I've got the black 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.760 lung pops and then mal he gave me the fucking 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:54.720 time off. Let's go. Yeah, I was sick the family. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.000 Everyone had COVID, so I'm got crook. Well, well you 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.360 were in town for something, weren't you. Yes, what was it? 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:01.080 Oh that's right. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.160 I was up with Joe Achilles, who were going to 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:04.840 have on the podcast. 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:06.040 We had a new best mate. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:10.080 Yes, we did a couple of shows, did a couple 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.039 of shows, so one it wasn't a show. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:18.679 It was like a YEAHJ J, that's it. That's that's 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:19.520 an awkward reference. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.600 Yes, that's the one that I unfortunately know, but let's 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.800 not go there. But yeah, we're in Sydney to do 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.440 the Sydney Show at BMW Sydney in Rush Cutters Base 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:36.280 Shine Dealership. But yeah, we actually drove from and I'll 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.400 just quickly run through this. We drove from Melbourne to 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.720 Sydney in two BMW seven series. One was a seven 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.400 forty and the other was an I seven. And we 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.920 wanted to figure out whether it is actually cheaper to 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.000 do the drive in a petrol car or an EV 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.720 how much inconvenience is sort of added to it all? 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.760 And I do love that you chose BMW for that 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.160 comparison to you poor bars. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.320 Well no, no, we did this once with our balls 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.360 and I in an EV six and an out in 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:03.160 Q five days. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.440 I remember that. Yeah, adelaid to Sydney and PA was 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.600 where you met Donna. Correct, that's right. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.120 So people bitch that they weren't the same car as 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.680 in it wasn't like that was that was diesel and 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.880 that was the EV version. So we thought, well let's 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.920 make it equal and BMW had the seven Series available 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.440 in both petrol and EV and we thought. 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:22.960 We'll give it a crack. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.560 Obviously, they are very expensive and not a realistic car, 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.840 but if you just transpose those two cars with any 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.080 other two cars that have an internal combustion and an 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.440 EV version, you can kind of follow the same routine 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.840 and further caveat to that is, obviously the seven Series 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.440 is heavy, and if you did it in a lighter 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.080 electric vehicle it would be different. But the premise is 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.880 the BMW claims to do at least five hundred kilometers 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.240 on a single charge. So in the future, when cheaper 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.760 evs have more range and a lighter and blah blah blah, 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.799 this should be the same story. So anyway, we set 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.799 off from Melbourne and I thought it's going to be 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.799 a bit uneventful list because you know, the BMW. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.239 Is just it just kind of just works. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.519 Everything was fine then halfway Our plan was to stop 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.760 at Tarcuta, which is halfway between Melbourne and Sydney. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.440 What was it called Tarcuta? Tarkata, It's like the sounds 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.720 regional town I probably did radio in once upon. It's 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.880 just about bloody half an hour from tear a bag apart. No, No, 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.640 my down the road from Kicking Can around Tarakata. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.000 So halfway there, I got a message from Jade in 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.040 our office and she goes, oh, have any of the 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:33.040 EV charges worked? 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:34.079 And I said, what are you talking about? 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.760 And she goes, the Optus network is down and I'm like, yeah, 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.080 so what So at these EV charges it has to 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.920 authenticate your credit card and stuff, and half of them 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.960 were on the Optus network. So I was at this 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.880 point about half an hour away from Tarkata and that 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.120 was our destination. And I said, look, we can turn 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.640 around and go somewhere else. But I mean, this is 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.720 part of the story, right if I if it doesn't work, 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.960 then you guys continue driving and I'll just hang around somewhere. 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.240 Else's the problem you get a children too. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.840 It listened to Gordy's success or a Tarkata a FM, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.440 the Sound of the Coast or the Sound of Inland. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.640 Which the music we all love now huge Blinda carlor. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.080 So anyway, I started getting a bit of range anxiety 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.120 because I arrived at Tarkata with two percent battery left, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.800 like it was almost empty. And the other thing we 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:25.240 were going to do on this trip was make sure 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.640 that we didn't put it in e Co Martos left 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.919 the AC on twenty one degrees. It was bloody hot, 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.320 cooled seats running, all that sort of stuff. So anyway, 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.600 this was the like the only charger in the country 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.039 that actually still worked. That's incresed some reason. It must 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.920 have been on Telstrue. They may not have had optors 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.560 there or something. So thankfully that worked. Put a bit 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.280 juice in it and anyway, long story short, we got 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.760 to the end and the EV cost so all the 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.880 charging we brim them at the start, so when we 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.839 started the road trip it was one hundred percent. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.600 That's a thought. He was there to help with that bit, 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.560 just paul A Joe so having a good brim session. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.120 So both of them were brimmed at in Hawthorne in 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.120 the back the nozzle in there. 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:09.719 Yeah. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.679 Right, So the EV total cost one hundred and thirty 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.600 one dollars and ninety two cents one. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.760 Point thirty one for the EV yep Okay. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.240 The petrol car, so this is premium unloaded ninety eight 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:25.960 run it costs one hundred and seventeen dollars, So it 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.640 was cheaper to do the trip in a petrol car 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.040 than it was to do it in the diesel. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.680 Someone else did a report on news dot com dot 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.479 you about about this a similar sort of a thing, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.120 and just saying how much it costs to get from 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.799 say Sydney Melbourne and v as opposed to the usual trip, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.520 and not as precise as yours. Obviously not a proper test, 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.440 but just an observation and interesting. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.040 So yeah, look, I mean, obviously the BMW would average 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.040 just over twenty killer what hours per one hundred ks. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:54.640 If you do it in a more efficient car, it'd 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.440 probably about sixteen or fifteen depending on the car. 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:02.960 Having said that, you're filling up charging up on the road, right, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.839 so it's going to be a different cost if you're 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.640 using this car, like obviously around town as a commuter 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:09.320 and you're charging it. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.360 If you're charging at home, obviously it's cheaper. And also 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.960 if you're going to a destination where there's free charging, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.320 then you would lop thirty three dollars off the charging price, 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.400 which was the final cost that we had to put 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.080 in there, so then it would it would become cheaper. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.080 But if you're on a road trip, which is what 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.360 people do, you're going to be using public charging infrastructure, 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.320 and you may not have charging your destination. So this 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.280 is just a fair way of doing it so that 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.880 we can have an Apple's for Apples comparison. And the 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.600 other thing as well is that electricity prices are getting 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.880 more expensive. So at the moment, it was costing between 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.440 sixty five and sixty nine cents per kilo what hour 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.359 to charge these cars. So you can imagine in the 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.039 future as electricity prices keep going up, it is just 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.800 going to become more expensive because these fuel companies are 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.200 just going to want to make the same amount of 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.440 money as they did off you when you were filling 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:58.720 it up with petrol or diesel. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.640 It's funny, though, we hear so much bitching and moaning 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.120 about the price of petrol, and no one in their 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.680 EV's is complaining about the price of charging them on 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.320 public charges. Really yep. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.120 And you know the other thing I'm going to throw 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.840 into the mix as well. At the moment, forty odd 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.560 cents per liter of fuel goes to the government, So 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.160 the second you remove that, they're going to have to 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.400 add that on to your charging for an EV eventually, 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.720 because they're not just going to relinquish billions of dollars 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.119 in fuel excise, So it is only going to become 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.800 more expensive to charge an EV on public charging infrastructure. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.160 But if you're like me, we haven't paid for the 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.280 past year a single cent to. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.520 Charge our EV at home your tesla. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.640 Yeah, because we're in an apartment building and we use 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:44.160 common electricity. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.600 So it's just paid for by all own it's not 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.800 it is paid for by body in theory. Yeah, so 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:52.240 it is. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.480 Yeah, but it's divided by everyone, so it isn't a 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:56.160 fair system. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.720 But so where you have this, so everyone who's not 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.160 hang on, so everyone in your apartment building who's not 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.720 an EV owner is essentially paying for your Aye, you 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:11.280 sneaky bastard. And an't you like the bloody chairman. We've 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.960 moved out of that building, so is used. There was 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:19.760 a few little you don't talk about that. Yeah, that's fun. 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.320 But yeah, so I think for every case where you're 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.520 paying for stuff, you're going to have an offset where 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.320 someone has sol or batteries or whatever. So it sort 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:28.880 of balances out in the grand scheme of things. But 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.320 I just thought it was an interesting thing to do. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.320 And yeah, so that that story will be out shortly 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:34.760 and have a watch. 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:35.640 Of the video Joe and I. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.720 Joe isn't a fan of EV's, so you can imagine 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.400 how much shit he was hanging on me in the 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.880 video when we discovered that there was an opt us out. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.360 This new apartment building you're in, Is it like a 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.520 gated style community if you've got some sort of care 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:55.840 going on? Yeah? Have you got help? You don't have 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.160 the maide in this one. You had that in the 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.959 last one. Yeah, So where are you living right now? 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.800 Let's share it for everyone. Share your address so people 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.400 know where to send hate mail pooh bombs. I remember 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.680 the pooh bombs in the bag. Send most a little path. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.120 Why you told your boring story about EV's and bloody 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.000 Joe Achilles or whatever his fucking name is. I was 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.839 too busy drifting around a track. Oh how'd that guy? Yeah, 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.520 I'm going to talk to We'll talk about this in 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.960 the next episode, but just a quick one of shout 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.160 out to Drift School Australia on Instagram, who reached out. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.600 I had a bloody fun day. Fernando who runs the thing, Well, 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.960 he'll go deep into the day and talk about I 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.800 think he's gonna give me a bit of a score 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.800 on my progress. Do you know one thing I did? Notice? Right? 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.720 Well, I can give you the score now if you want. No, 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:44.719 Actually I did pretty bloody well. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.800 Have you know? Do you know the hardest thing I 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.880 realized isn't so much the actual act of drifting. It's 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.959 to kind of kick the car around to that perfect 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.480 sort of angle. That was That was the hardest point. Like, 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.480 it was interesting how they start the day off, because 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.000 you kind of lead up a drifting, they kind of 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.240 teach you the basic sort of foundations I guess of 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:05.600 what you're going to need to kind of get to 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.000 that point. So like doughnuts and all sorts of stuff 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:13.240 which are nailed. The fact that they had sitting risen 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:17.040 from seven eleven polished those off. But yeah, so all 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.400 that sort of stuff was. It was great. It was easy. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.480 It was sort of but the one thing that I 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:26.720 thought was going to be I thought the actual getting 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.760 into the position of a drift would have been the 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:30.920 easy part, and it was holding sort of that position 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.400 that would have been the hard part. But it was 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.319 for me, it was completely the opposite. Once I was 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:36.959 in sort of drift, that was kind of easy to 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.480 find that friction point generally and balance around. It's just 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.560 kicking that fucking car around. And there's a few different ones. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.720 They had utes and nice. They had three point fifty 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.719 z which was highly modern. Yeah, I know, but I 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:52.240 like that. I preferred it. It was just nice and 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.160 easy Tardi. Uh what else did I think? They had 0:10:55.200 --> 0:11:00.760 a Sylvia too? Ute? Sounded fucking yeah, Commodore? Yeah, yeah, nice, 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.400 really good, very nice. But yeah, a great day. We'll 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.360 chat about that in the next one. But shout out 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.559 to shout out to those guys. Go go buy yourself 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.400 a nice little Christmas present. Often because they it's an 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.719 interesting one because you know when you do those sort 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.040 of experiences, the bloody you know, red balloon or experience, 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.760 you know, all these sort of car experiences. He sort 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.679 of think to yourself, Man, they stack up in cost. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.760 And then I was talking to a couple of the 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.959 instructors about just the running costs of this thing, and 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:30.800 it's huge. 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:32.959 Well, yeah, put it this way, if you were to 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.160 take your own car, you would And this is the thing. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.880 Their cars are engineered for that driving. They've got a 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.880 proper either a locked or of very limited slip differential, 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.480 which isn't on a standard car, and then in addition 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.559 to that, they've got extra steering angle as well to 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.280 make it easier to drift. You've got engine modifications for 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.320 additional card. So if you were to go take your 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.000 own car there, you would probably do a thousand dollars 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.160 worth of damage by the time in one session everything. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.080 So yeah, I always say to people, whenever you look 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:06.120 at track days and stuff where you're not supplying your car, Yep, whatever. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.959 The cost is, it's probably worth it. They've got. One 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.120 of the instructors was saying, because he went through the 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:16.400 school himself and then loved it that much, he sort 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.920 of kept going with it, and now he's an instructor. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:23.800 But he was saying, five years ago he'd pay I 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.600 think it was like one hundred bucks a tire. Right 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.200 now it's two hundred bucks a tire, right, So all 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:34.439 those sort of things have doubled. Things like you know, 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.480 as you said, the mods, the handbrakes, like everything. Engines. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:38.480 People used to buy. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.160 LS three engines that they would stick in stuff, and 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.920 if you didn't buy a crate engine, which were quite expensive, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.599 you'd go and find a wrecked car that had a 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:47.720 rear impact and you'd. 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:48.960 Just salvage the engine. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.440 Now you cannot find an LS three or a barrower 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.920 anywhere because people have just gobbled up everything. They're no 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.959 longer making barrows, so they're impossible to find. So of 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.920 the few that left, they're demanding high premium. So to 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.800 actually build a drift car today, this. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:08.559 Culture is the ultimate environmentalists. They're really easy. Well that's it, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.640 there you go, green, Yeah, Greta get on block. Can 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.679 you imagine Greta doing the drift? How dare you? I 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:22.040 should be in school? No, sorry, she's no. Thanks. Oh 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.599 you know what else I did? I just spend some 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.600 time in a BYD Dolphin. Oh, there you go. Yeah, 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.640 I enjoyed it. Yeah, I enjoyed it. It's quirky. It's 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.480 a quirky little thing. Do you know what? The interior 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.120 is not as full on, I guess as the ATO three, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.160 but it is much cheaper, isn't it. Yeah? Well yeah, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.400 you're looking at around about forty thousand dollars. It sort 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.520 of competes with the MG four. It was a bit 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.400 of a bitch, sessh because when I think MG four 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.200 jumped on, they launched with forty thousand dollars. Ye, drive 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.559 away or something like that. These guys undercut MG by 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.280 one hundred bucks drive away, so technically they're Australia's most 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.360 affordable EVA. If I was sort of comparing it to say, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.439 the MG four, I think the MG four looks I 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.120 don't know, it's it's Apple's oranges one sort of styled 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.839 a bit more aggressive than I quite like the MG four. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.680 But the MG four's interior compared to the BYD interior, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.400 I thought the BYD nailed it. Like they've got better tech. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.320 It looks better. It's obviously doesn't have that ridiculous quirk 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.360 that the A three kind of had with the strings 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.400 and stuff like that. But it's really well, it's really 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.120 well put together. Inside, the text really good. I think 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.840 it does a better job of the interior. Generally, I'm 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.400 looking forward to the the X. Yeah, the Seal is 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.680 going to be great. I think we're doing something with Luke. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:43.960 Look out for that. You strap the wet suit on, yeah, yeah, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.600 when you're in the Dolphin, it actually does make that 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:51.840 sort of it's the sound of a dolphin even when 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:56.840 you push the horn. It is showing that electric cars 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:01.000 are getting much much cheaper in Australia. Sorry, with the Dolphin, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.840 is when you pass another dolphin driver in traffic, like, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.040 rather than sort of give the knowing wave, you can 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.040 just throw a piece of fish at them and they 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:14.760 balance a beach ball on their head. It makes SENSEA look, 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.360 just a quick one on that. We won't to a 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.040 full review or anything of it, but I think it 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.720 should definitely be, definitely be on people's list because it's 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.400 it's a great little car and it's fuck it's thirty 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.880 nine just under forty thousand drive away. Yeah, yeah it is. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.560 It is cheap. We actually did a drag race between 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:36.280 the MG four x Power and the I seven seventy. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.520 Oh I've got the x Power Monday. I'm looking for 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:40.040 it too. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.680 So that was sixty grand versus three hundred and fifty grand. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.560 So yeah, you can head to the car Expert channel 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:47.160 to check that out. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.200 It is just tell me the result right now. No, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.800 it was actually half half one half of them and 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.600 the BMW on the other half. Yeah, it was really 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.960 quite fascinating. How did you find before I get into 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.360 this thing? How did you find it with the because 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.640 this thing's dual motor or will drive sort of situation 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.560 going on? Yeah, look, it was. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.920 Okay in a straight line, but when we started sort 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.800 of getting up at around the right and handling track. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.880 It has a few quirks that I wasn't a fan of. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.080 So it's got a talk vectoring system and an electronic 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.000 locking differential, and none of that works really well with 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.240 the stability control, so it's constantly biting and doing weird 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.360 stuff mid corner. So I think that needs a little 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.200 bit of work. But outside of that, breaks were good. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.480 Handling was pretty good for sixty grand. Yeah, and not 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.640 complain you can't really good like. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.720 That's what I'm looking forward to is the fact that it's, 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.000 you know, the handling should be a little bit better 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.080 technically than the m FALL the standard YEP. 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.080 But the other thing as well is that I don't 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.280 love the battery capacity. It's using the smaller battery, so 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.240 you only getting rated range of three hundred and fifty k's. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.720 Our range on the day was two hundred and the 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.720 bad tree was flat, so we did a lot of 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:02.960 hard driving. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.280 But one hundred k's of that. One hundred and ten 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.919 k's of that was highway driving to get there. Now 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.680 that I'm a drift expert, does that have a drift mode? 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.080 I don't know. That's the other thing they need to 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.240 fix as well. It's sort of that needs to get 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.080 sorted to. But otherwise, sixty thousand dollars, what is that? 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.000 Zero to one hundred and three point eight Yeah, fucking 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.440 hell yeah, it is quick. It is quick. There is 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:30.959 still something a little bit underwhelming going fast in an 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.879 EV rather than a three hundred and fifty thousand dollar Porsche. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.479 Thanks very much. That's true, you know what I mean, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:43.159 just lacks that sound and emotion, likes that everything. Oh hey, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.280 here's an interesting story that pops across my desk, thanks 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:51.000 to you. Gone hey. So monsh hospital has decided to 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.600 ban EV charges. Now, I thought they were just kind 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.840 of saying no to the whole no to EV charges 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.880 in general. But they've literally pulled the ones that they've 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:03.159 got out and said, nah, it's not happening. Yeah. According to. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.280 The story on our site, so Mono Shealth has banned 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.520 electric vehicle charging in its hospitals and medical centers, citing 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.320 a work Safe Victoria's safety alert warning that evs pose 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.520 a fire risk. So the exact wording from work Safe 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.040 was when overheated lithium ion batteries of all sizes can 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.120 catch fire, the fire is often hard to put out 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.680 and the smoke from the fire can be toxic. So 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.440 obviously you can see how that's an issue at a 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.680 workplace where where it's a hospital, because you've got sick 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.720 people that are already. So the recommendation is that electric 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.280 vehicles with lithium ion battery should not be charged close 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.320 to office spaces or near people, and that there should 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.280 be a dedicated charging area that's separate from areas where 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:45.240 people are working. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:46.800 Fuck, what do they want to paddock? 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:51.000 Well, I mean it seems that way. But yeah, I 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.440 just find it. I find it really interesting that you 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.200 know this is happening. We published also content recently about 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.800 a big body corporate firm here in Melbourne that has 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.680 recommended to owners corporations that they don't install EV charges 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.040 or charge vehicles apartment building. 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:11.280 Yeah. 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.240 So this is obviously an area of concern and there 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.399 is no kind of ruling on this yet. There's just 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:19.760 all this loose advice. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.320 So but I mean, and this advice is essentially coming 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:30.200 from I would imagine government bodies things like you know, 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.280 like for instance, in New South Wales, I know, the 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.439 New South Wales Fire Authority. You know, these people did 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.080 like a full report and we're saying how difficult it 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.800 is to put out ev fires. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.960 It's a fact, right, So a lithiumine battery fire gets 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.280