1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. This is me putting on a professional voice 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: because the last two intros Paul has deemed too offensive 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: and I'm not allowed to put them in. Sorry about 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: the delay in the show, everybody, We're a professional podcast. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Moving forward. Just kidding, just kidding. Jake's guys, it's been 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: a while between drinks. Yeah, I blame you. Yes, I've 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: been away. You've been away. You were sick. 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: At one point that we will meet to film, I 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: said I was sick, but yeah, I got that vibe. 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: You sounded fine. Yeah. 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 2: You know, right at the end of the call, when 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: someone calls in sick, they're like, oh shit, I got 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: a cough and then. 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very much like I've got the black 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: lung pops and then mal he gave me the fucking 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: time off. Let's go. Yeah, I was sick the family. 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: Everyone had COVID, so I'm got crook. Well, well you 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: were in town for something, weren't you. Yes, what was it? 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's right. 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: I was up with Joe Achilles, who were going to 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: have on the podcast. 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: We had a new best mate. 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: Yes, we did a couple of shows, did a couple 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: of shows, so one it wasn't a show. 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: It was like a YEAHJ J, that's it. That's that's 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: an awkward reference. 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the one that I unfortunately know, but let's 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: not go there. But yeah, we're in Sydney to do 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: the Sydney Show at BMW Sydney in Rush Cutters Base 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: Shine Dealership. But yeah, we actually drove from and I'll 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: just quickly run through this. We drove from Melbourne to 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: Sydney in two BMW seven series. One was a seven 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: forty and the other was an I seven. And we 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: wanted to figure out whether it is actually cheaper to 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: do the drive in a petrol car or an EV 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: how much inconvenience is sort of added to it all? 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: And I do love that you chose BMW for that 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: comparison to you poor bars. 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: Well no, no, we did this once with our balls 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: and I in an EV six and an out in 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: Q five days. 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, adelaid to Sydney and PA was 43 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: where you met Donna. Correct, that's right. 44 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: So people bitch that they weren't the same car as 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: in it wasn't like that was that was diesel and 46 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: that was the EV version. So we thought, well let's 47 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: make it equal and BMW had the seven Series available 48 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: in both petrol and EV and we thought. 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: We'll give it a crack. 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: Obviously, they are very expensive and not a realistic car, 51 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: but if you just transpose those two cars with any 52 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: other two cars that have an internal combustion and an 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: EV version, you can kind of follow the same routine 54 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: and further caveat to that is, obviously the seven Series 55 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: is heavy, and if you did it in a lighter 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: electric vehicle it would be different. But the premise is 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: the BMW claims to do at least five hundred kilometers 58 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: on a single charge. So in the future, when cheaper 59 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: evs have more range and a lighter and blah blah blah, 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: this should be the same story. So anyway, we set 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 2: off from Melbourne and I thought it's going to be 62 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: a bit uneventful list because you know, the BMW. 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: Is just it just kind of just works. 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: Everything was fine then halfway Our plan was to stop 65 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: at Tarcuta, which is halfway between Melbourne and Sydney. 66 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: What was it called Tarcuta? Tarkata, It's like the sounds 67 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: regional town I probably did radio in once upon. It's 68 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: just about bloody half an hour from tear a bag apart. No, No, 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: my down the road from Kicking Can around Tarakata. 70 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: So halfway there, I got a message from Jade in 71 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: our office and she goes, oh, have any of the 72 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: EV charges worked? 73 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: And I said, what are you talking about? 74 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: And she goes, the Optus network is down and I'm like, yeah, 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: so what So at these EV charges it has to 76 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: authenticate your credit card and stuff, and half of them 77 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: were on the Optus network. So I was at this 78 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: point about half an hour away from Tarkata and that 79 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: was our destination. And I said, look, we can turn 80 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: around and go somewhere else. But I mean, this is 81 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: part of the story, right if I if it doesn't work, 82 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: then you guys continue driving and I'll just hang around somewhere. 83 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: Else's the problem you get a children too. 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: It listened to Gordy's success or a Tarkata a FM, 85 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: the Sound of the Coast or the Sound of Inland. 86 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: Which the music we all love now huge Blinda carlor. 87 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: So anyway, I started getting a bit of range anxiety 88 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: because I arrived at Tarkata with two percent battery left, 89 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: like it was almost empty. And the other thing we 90 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: were going to do on this trip was make sure 91 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: that we didn't put it in e Co Martos left 92 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: the AC on twenty one degrees. It was bloody hot, 93 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: cooled seats running, all that sort of stuff. So anyway, 94 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: this was the like the only charger in the country 95 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: that actually still worked. That's incresed some reason. It must 96 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: have been on Telstrue. They may not have had optors 97 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: there or something. So thankfully that worked. Put a bit 98 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: juice in it and anyway, long story short, we got 99 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: to the end and the EV cost so all the 100 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: charging we brim them at the start, so when we 101 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: started the road trip it was one hundred percent. 102 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: That's a thought. He was there to help with that bit, 103 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: just paul A Joe so having a good brim session. 104 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: So both of them were brimmed at in Hawthorne in 105 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: the back the nozzle in there. 106 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 107 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 2: Right, So the EV total cost one hundred and thirty 108 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: one dollars and ninety two cents one. 109 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Point thirty one for the EV yep Okay. 110 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: The petrol car, so this is premium unloaded ninety eight 111 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: run it costs one hundred and seventeen dollars, So it 112 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: was cheaper to do the trip in a petrol car 113 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: than it was to do it in the diesel. 114 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: Someone else did a report on news dot com dot 115 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: you about about this a similar sort of a thing, 116 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: and just saying how much it costs to get from 117 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: say Sydney Melbourne and v as opposed to the usual trip, 118 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: and not as precise as yours. Obviously not a proper test, 119 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: but just an observation and interesting. 120 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, look, I mean, obviously the BMW would average 121 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: just over twenty killer what hours per one hundred ks. 122 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: If you do it in a more efficient car, it'd 123 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: probably about sixteen or fifteen depending on the car. 124 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: Having said that, you're filling up charging up on the road, right, 125 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: so it's going to be a different cost if you're 126 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: using this car, like obviously around town as a commuter 127 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: and you're charging it. 128 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: If you're charging at home, obviously it's cheaper. And also 129 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: if you're going to a destination where there's free charging, 130 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: then you would lop thirty three dollars off the charging price, 131 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: which was the final cost that we had to put 132 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: in there, so then it would it would become cheaper. 133 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: But if you're on a road trip, which is what 134 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: people do, you're going to be using public charging infrastructure, 135 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: and you may not have charging your destination. So this 136 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: is just a fair way of doing it so that 137 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: we can have an Apple's for Apples comparison. And the 138 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: other thing as well is that electricity prices are getting 139 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: more expensive. So at the moment, it was costing between 140 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: sixty five and sixty nine cents per kilo what hour 141 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: to charge these cars. So you can imagine in the 142 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: future as electricity prices keep going up, it is just 143 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: going to become more expensive because these fuel companies are 144 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: just going to want to make the same amount of 145 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: money as they did off you when you were filling 146 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: it up with petrol or diesel. 147 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: It's funny, though, we hear so much bitching and moaning 148 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: about the price of petrol, and no one in their 149 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: EV's is complaining about the price of charging them on 150 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: public charges. Really yep. 151 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: And you know the other thing I'm going to throw 152 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: into the mix as well. At the moment, forty odd 153 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: cents per liter of fuel goes to the government, So 154 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: the second you remove that, they're going to have to 155 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: add that on to your charging for an EV eventually, 156 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: because they're not just going to relinquish billions of dollars 157 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 2: in fuel excise, So it is only going to become 158 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: more expensive to charge an EV on public charging infrastructure. 159 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: But if you're like me, we haven't paid for the 160 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: past year a single cent to. 161 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: Charge our EV at home your tesla. 162 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're in an apartment building and we use 163 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: common electricity. 164 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: So it's just paid for by all own it's not 165 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: it is paid for by body in theory. Yeah, so 166 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: it is. 167 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's divided by everyone, so it isn't a 168 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: fair system. 169 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: But so where you have this, so everyone who's not 170 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: hang on, so everyone in your apartment building who's not 171 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: an EV owner is essentially paying for your Aye, you 172 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: sneaky bastard. And an't you like the bloody chairman. We've 173 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: moved out of that building, so is used. There was 174 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: a few little you don't talk about that. Yeah, that's fun. 175 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I think for every case where you're 176 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: paying for stuff, you're going to have an offset where 177 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: someone has sol or batteries or whatever. So it sort 178 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: of balances out in the grand scheme of things. But 179 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: I just thought it was an interesting thing to do. 180 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: And yeah, so that that story will be out shortly 181 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: and have a watch. 182 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: Of the video Joe and I. 183 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: Joe isn't a fan of EV's, so you can imagine 184 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: how much shit he was hanging on me in the 185 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: video when we discovered that there was an opt us out. 186 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: This new apartment building you're in, Is it like a 187 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: gated style community if you've got some sort of care 188 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: going on? Yeah? Have you got help? You don't have 189 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: the maide in this one. You had that in the 190 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: last one. Yeah, So where are you living right now? 191 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: Let's share it for everyone. Share your address so people 192 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: know where to send hate mail pooh bombs. I remember 193 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: the pooh bombs in the bag. Send most a little path. 194 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: Why you told your boring story about EV's and bloody 195 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Joe Achilles or whatever his fucking name is. I was 196 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: too busy drifting around a track. Oh how'd that guy? Yeah, 197 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to We'll talk about this in 198 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: the next episode, but just a quick one of shout 199 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: out to Drift School Australia on Instagram, who reached out. 200 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: I had a bloody fun day. Fernando who runs the thing, Well, 201 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: he'll go deep into the day and talk about I 202 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: think he's gonna give me a bit of a score 203 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: on my progress. Do you know one thing I did? Notice? Right? 204 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: Well, I can give you the score now if you want. No, 205 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: Actually I did pretty bloody well. 206 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: Have you know? Do you know the hardest thing I 207 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: realized isn't so much the actual act of drifting. It's 208 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: to kind of kick the car around to that perfect 209 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: sort of angle. That was That was the hardest point. Like, 210 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: it was interesting how they start the day off, because 211 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: you kind of lead up a drifting, they kind of 212 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: teach you the basic sort of foundations I guess of 213 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: what you're going to need to kind of get to 214 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: that point. So like doughnuts and all sorts of stuff 215 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: which are nailed. The fact that they had sitting risen 216 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: from seven eleven polished those off. But yeah, so all 217 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff was. It was great. It was easy. 218 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: It was sort of but the one thing that I 219 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: thought was going to be I thought the actual getting 220 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: into the position of a drift would have been the 221 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: easy part, and it was holding sort of that position 222 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: that would have been the hard part. But it was 223 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: for me, it was completely the opposite. Once I was 224 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: in sort of drift, that was kind of easy to 225 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: find that friction point generally and balance around. It's just 226 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: kicking that fucking car around. And there's a few different ones. 227 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: They had utes and nice. They had three point fifty 228 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: z which was highly modern. Yeah, I know, but I 229 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: like that. I preferred it. It was just nice and 230 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: easy Tardi. Uh what else did I think? They had 231 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: a Sylvia too? Ute? Sounded fucking yeah, Commodore? Yeah, yeah, nice, 232 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: really good, very nice. But yeah, a great day. We'll 233 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: chat about that in the next one. But shout out 234 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: to shout out to those guys. Go go buy yourself 235 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: a nice little Christmas present. Often because they it's an 236 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: interesting one because you know when you do those sort 237 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: of experiences, the bloody you know, red balloon or experience, 238 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, all these sort of car experiences. He sort 239 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: of think to yourself, Man, they stack up in cost. 240 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: And then I was talking to a couple of the 241 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: instructors about just the running costs of this thing, and 242 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: it's huge. 243 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, put it this way, if you were to 244 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: take your own car, you would And this is the thing. 245 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: Their cars are engineered for that driving. They've got a 246 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: proper either a locked or of very limited slip differential, 247 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: which isn't on a standard car, and then in addition 248 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 2: to that, they've got extra steering angle as well to 249 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: make it easier to drift. You've got engine modifications for 250 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: additional card. So if you were to go take your 251 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: own car there, you would probably do a thousand dollars 252 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: worth of damage by the time in one session everything. 253 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, I always say to people, whenever you look 254 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: at track days and stuff where you're not supplying your car, Yep, whatever. 255 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: The cost is, it's probably worth it. They've got. One 256 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: of the instructors was saying, because he went through the 257 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: school himself and then loved it that much, he sort 258 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: of kept going with it, and now he's an instructor. 259 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: But he was saying, five years ago he'd pay I 260 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: think it was like one hundred bucks a tire. Right 261 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: now it's two hundred bucks a tire, right, So all 262 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: those sort of things have doubled. Things like you know, 263 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: as you said, the mods, the handbrakes, like everything. Engines. 264 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: People used to buy. 265 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: LS three engines that they would stick in stuff, and 266 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: if you didn't buy a crate engine, which were quite expensive, 267 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 2: you'd go and find a wrecked car that had a 268 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: rear impact and you'd. 269 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: Just salvage the engine. 270 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: Now you cannot find an LS three or a barrower 271 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: anywhere because people have just gobbled up everything. They're no 272 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: longer making barrows, so they're impossible to find. So of 273 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: the few that left, they're demanding high premium. So to 274 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: actually build a drift car today, this. 275 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: Culture is the ultimate environmentalists. They're really easy. Well that's it, 276 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: there you go, green, Yeah, Greta get on block. Can 277 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: you imagine Greta doing the drift? How dare you? I 278 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: should be in school? No, sorry, she's no. Thanks. Oh 279 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 1: you know what else I did? I just spend some 280 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: time in a BYD Dolphin. Oh, there you go. Yeah, 281 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Yeah, I enjoyed it. It's quirky. It's 282 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: a quirky little thing. Do you know what? The interior 283 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: is not as full on, I guess as the ATO three, 284 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: but it is much cheaper, isn't it. Yeah? Well yeah, 285 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: you're looking at around about forty thousand dollars. It sort 286 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: of competes with the MG four. It was a bit 287 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: of a bitch, sessh because when I think MG four 288 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: jumped on, they launched with forty thousand dollars. Ye, drive 289 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: away or something like that. These guys undercut MG by 290 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: one hundred bucks drive away, so technically they're Australia's most 291 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: affordable EVA. If I was sort of comparing it to say, 292 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: the MG four, I think the MG four looks I 293 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's Apple's oranges one sort of styled 294 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: a bit more aggressive than I quite like the MG four. 295 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: But the MG four's interior compared to the BYD interior, 296 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: I thought the BYD nailed it. Like they've got better tech. 297 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: It looks better. It's obviously doesn't have that ridiculous quirk 298 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: that the A three kind of had with the strings 299 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But it's really well, it's really 300 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: well put together. Inside, the text really good. I think 301 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: it does a better job of the interior. Generally, I'm 302 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: looking forward to the the X. Yeah, the Seal is 303 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: going to be great. I think we're doing something with Luke. 304 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Look out for that. You strap the wet suit on, yeah, yeah, 305 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: when you're in the Dolphin, it actually does make that 306 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: sort of it's the sound of a dolphin even when 307 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: you push the horn. It is showing that electric cars 308 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: are getting much much cheaper in Australia. Sorry, with the Dolphin, 309 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: is when you pass another dolphin driver in traffic, like, 310 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: rather than sort of give the knowing wave, you can 311 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: just throw a piece of fish at them and they 312 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: balance a beach ball on their head. It makes SENSEA look, 313 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: just a quick one on that. We won't to a 314 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: full review or anything of it, but I think it 315 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: should definitely be, definitely be on people's list because it's 316 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: it's a great little car and it's fuck it's thirty 317 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: nine just under forty thousand drive away. Yeah, yeah it is. 318 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: It is cheap. We actually did a drag race between 319 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: the MG four x Power and the I seven seventy. 320 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: Oh I've got the x Power Monday. I'm looking for 321 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: it too. 322 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: So that was sixty grand versus three hundred and fifty grand. 323 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, you can head to the car Expert channel 324 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: to check that out. 325 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: It is just tell me the result right now. No, 326 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: it was actually half half one half of them and 327 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: the BMW on the other half. Yeah, it was really 328 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: quite fascinating. How did you find before I get into 329 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: this thing? How did you find it with the because 330 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: this thing's dual motor or will drive sort of situation 331 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, look, it was. 332 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: Okay in a straight line, but when we started sort 333 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: of getting up at around the right and handling track. 334 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: It has a few quirks that I wasn't a fan of. 335 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: So it's got a talk vectoring system and an electronic 336 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: locking differential, and none of that works really well with 337 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: the stability control, so it's constantly biting and doing weird 338 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: stuff mid corner. So I think that needs a little 339 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: bit of work. But outside of that, breaks were good. 340 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: Handling was pretty good for sixty grand. Yeah, and not 341 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: complain you can't really good like. 342 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking forward to is the fact that it's, 343 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, the handling should be a little bit better 344 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: technically than the m FALL the standard YEP. 345 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: But the other thing as well is that I don't 346 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: love the battery capacity. It's using the smaller battery, so 347 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: you only getting rated range of three hundred and fifty k's. 348 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: Our range on the day was two hundred and the 349 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: bad tree was flat, so we did a lot of 350 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: hard driving. 351 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: But one hundred k's of that. One hundred and ten 352 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: k's of that was highway driving to get there. Now 353 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: that I'm a drift expert, does that have a drift mode? 354 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the other thing they need to 355 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: fix as well. It's sort of that needs to get 356 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: sorted to. But otherwise, sixty thousand dollars, what is that? 357 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: Zero to one hundred and three point eight Yeah, fucking 358 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: hell yeah, it is quick. It is quick. There is 359 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: still something a little bit underwhelming going fast in an 360 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: EV rather than a three hundred and fifty thousand dollar Porsche. 361 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: Thanks very much. That's true, you know what I mean, 362 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: just lacks that sound and emotion, likes that everything. Oh hey, 363 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: here's an interesting story that pops across my desk, thanks 364 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: to you. Gone hey. So monsh hospital has decided to 365 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: ban EV charges. Now, I thought they were just kind 366 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: of saying no to the whole no to EV charges 367 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: in general. But they've literally pulled the ones that they've 368 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: got out and said, nah, it's not happening. Yeah. According to. 369 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: The story on our site, so Mono Shealth has banned 370 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: electric vehicle charging in its hospitals and medical centers, citing 371 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: a work Safe Victoria's safety alert warning that evs pose 372 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: a fire risk. So the exact wording from work Safe 373 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: was when overheated lithium ion batteries of all sizes can 374 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: catch fire, the fire is often hard to put out 375 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: and the smoke from the fire can be toxic. So 376 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: obviously you can see how that's an issue at a 377 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: workplace where where it's a hospital, because you've got sick 378 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: people that are already. So the recommendation is that electric 379 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: vehicles with lithium ion battery should not be charged close 380 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: to office spaces or near people, and that there should 381 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: be a dedicated charging area that's separate from areas where 382 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: people are working. 383 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: Fuck, what do they want to paddock? 384 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it seems that way. But yeah, I 385 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: just find it. I find it really interesting that you 386 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: know this is happening. We published also content recently about 387 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: a big body corporate firm here in Melbourne that has 388 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: recommended to owners corporations that they don't install EV charges 389 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: or charge vehicles apartment building. 390 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 391 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: So this is obviously an area of concern and there 392 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: is no kind of ruling on this yet. There's just 393 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: all this loose advice. 394 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: So but I mean, and this advice is essentially coming 395 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: from I would imagine government bodies things like you know, 396 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: like for instance, in New South Wales, I know, the 397 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: New South Wales Fire Authority. You know, these people did 398 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: like a full report and we're saying how difficult it 399 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: is to put out ev fires. 400 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: It's a fact, right, So a lithiumine battery fire gets 401 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: thermal run away and is almost impossible to put out quickly, 402 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: so that there is no known way of doing it quickly. 403 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: They've created like dunking bars where Ukraine like a smoldering 404 00:19:54,840 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: Jesus fire into this immerse it in water until it 405 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: is well and truly safely out. That's impossible, well, almost 406 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: impossible to do in an apartment building or near or 407 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: underground car park or something like that, because you can't 408 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: pull the car out safely. So it is a genuine issue. 409 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: There are very few instances of electric vehicle fires, so 410 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: it's not as if this is happening every day, but 411 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: when they do happen, it's obviously bad news. And I 412 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: think a lot of this is stemming from the fires Leaven. 413 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 2: Last night on the news, a family lost half their 414 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: home because an electric bicycle they were charging over an 415 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: either course. 416 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: Fire and took half the house out. Trev talked about 417 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: this in the podcast a couple of weeks ago. You question, 418 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: like where the charging cables coming from and all that 419 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. That's the problem. There's a bicycles and scooters. 420 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: You don't know how they manufacture, You don't know what 421 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: safety tolerances they have, probably very low, given they're selling 422 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: them kind of anonymously, and I don't know who's actually 423 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: checking that is the government who knows. Electric cars I 424 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: think are a fast, safer alternative. But obviously an electric 425 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: car catch fire is significantly worse than a scooter catching 426 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: fire because it is a much bigger battery. So yeah, 427 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: look at you something to look at if you do 428 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: want to protect yourself if you buy an electric car 429 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: that has an LFP battery, So that is typically the 430 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: Chinese electric vehicles like the Tesla's, the BYD's, and that 431 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: the cheaper versions, they tend to not have a lithium 432 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: ion battery that has that thermal runaway property. These can 433 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: still catch fire and can still be hard to put out, 434 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: but they're not anywhere near as bad as a lithium 435 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: ion battery. 436 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: So would we have the same problem. It's going to 437 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: sound like a dumb question, but I'm used to it now. Yeah, fine, 438 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: go ahead, just like a real lie. We have the 439 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: same problem in hydrogen cars. 440 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: Well, hydrogen cars are slightly different. So with a hydrogen car, 441 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: it's you don't have that thermal runaway. So when hydrogen escapes, 442 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: it escapes quickly and it disperses quickly. So if you 443 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: do get hydrogen escaping, it's going to burn. It's not 444 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: a visible flame, but it will burn quickly and dissipate. 445 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: Problem with hydrogen is that if it makes its way 446 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: back into the tank, the tank is heavily pressurized. If 447 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: you then get ignition in the tank, then that's a 448 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: bigger problem because you have a huge amount stored in 449 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: this space and you can get a big explosion. But 450 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: there are a huge number of protections in place for 451 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: hydrogen vehicles, so they have leaked detection internally, so they 452 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 2: can one way valves for hydrogen escaping the tank as well, 453 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: so there was even in terms of car accidents. Toyota 454 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: had vision of them firing a m whatever gun with 455 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: some giant bullet at hydrogen tank ause they're multi carbon 456 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: layered tanks and basically it took them two shots in 457 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: the one same spot to penetrate the tank. So if 458 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 2: you can fire a giant military rifle at a tank 459 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: twice and it's still not coming. 460 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: From a guy who has a military car by the way, Yeah, correct, 461 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: what else you've got? There was still no explosion there. 462 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: Then I think they are significantly safer than what people 463 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: think of HydroD So so yeah, I don't know. It 464 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: is an interesting time, and it is worth keeping in 465 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: mind that when an internal combustion car catches on fire, 466 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: you literally have a fuel tank. 467 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: It has a huge source of flammable liquid. 468 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, under exactly, So it is actually just as bad, 469 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: but it is easier to put out. The problem is 470 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: if you get an internal combustion car catch on fire 471 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: in a car park and there's evs next to it, 472 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: you can just see the compounding effect if they all 473 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: catch fire. 474 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, it is. It is interesting. 475 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: So keen for your feedback on this. Contact at the 476 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: Drivers Show dot com dot au. Let us know what 477 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: you think about this. Do you think that this is 478 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: a problem. Would you buy an EV if you lived 479 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: in an apartment building? Do you support charging them at 480 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: work in inclosed spaces? Let us know what you reckon 481 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: the thing. 482 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: Of the I'll get rid of that, don't worry. Hey, 483 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: so Cherry's got a hot new accessory. I know you're 484 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: a big fan of it. It's got a little thorhammer. Yeah, 485 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: it was great. 486 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: We were testing the Cherry Tigo seven Pro what's called 487 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: Tigo seven that voice though, and I sort of opened 488 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: the center console and I'm like, oh, what's in this 489 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: little leather bag? I thought it was perhaps some I 490 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: opened it up and I'm like, oh, Gord, he's like 491 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: one of his toys in here. But it was basically 492 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: a hammer similar to what a juvenile in Queensland would 493 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: use just before they steal your car. It basically has 494 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: a solid tip on it and you just literally tap 495 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: it on glass and it will shatter the glass. And 496 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: then it's also got a seat belt cutter built into it. 497 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: It sounds like something from Trevor's bottom drawer. 498 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: So it's designed here just in case you are in 499 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: an accident where the car you can't get out, you 500 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: go straight to your center console and whip out the 501 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: safety hammer. 502 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like if a car is supplying 503 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: that they might know something we don't do, you know 504 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, you're the first car that 505 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: I can remember but apart from like one of those 506 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: little busses that you go on Bucks parties at that 507 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: come with an actual little hammer to bust out in 508 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: case there's a fucking accident. But think about it this way. 509 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: It's actually not a bad idea because if you're in 510 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: a serious enough accident where your power supplies cut off 511 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: and your car has electric windows, which is every car 512 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: on the market, so you have to smash a window 513 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: to get out. Yeah, smashing a window is hard to do, 514 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: so it is tricky to do, and if you are 515 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: stuck in a position where you need to get your 516 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: seat belts off as well. I mean that there are 517 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: a number of instances where this would be handy in 518 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: a Tesla. I mean not why in the back seat 519 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: you don't actually have an emergency release for the doors. 520 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: So in front seats you have emergency releases for the doors. 521 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: The back seat doesn't have any you have to well 522 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: it actually does, but you have to like remove some 523 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: carpet to find this thing. 524 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: If you're thinking, to the bottom is the dumbest stable 525 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: at all time. 526 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I can see why this would be handy 527 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: and perhaps something that Tesla could look at putting in 528 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: their cars. 529 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: Hmm, Well you could just call my ex girlfriend and 530 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: cheese some fucking break windows and shit all the time. Hey, 531 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: just quickly. I just wanted to get your thoughts on 532 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: Cadillac coming to Australia. Yes, because all they're sort of 533 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: bringing over here is a couple of evs, right yep. 534 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: I reckon it will be a complete waste of time 535 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: and money. And I'll tell you why. 536 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: So they're retailing out of Mauls, so it's where you 537 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: can buy them an online. 538 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: And they're bringing electric vehicles to Australia and not cool 539 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: looking ones, like they look all right, but they're not 540 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: like there, what's the one that everyone loves, the big Escalade. Yeah, no, 541 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: that's not coming. 542 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: So by the end of twenty twenty four, ittably the 543 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: Lyric crossover, so it'll be factory right hand drive. And 544 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: the reason I don't think it's going to work is 545 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: because the US dollar at the moment is completely screwed. 546 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: This is an expensive car in the US. It is 547 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: going to be very expensive here if you look at 548 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: how much they're charging for Corvettes, which are sort of 549 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: built in a similar fashion. 550 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: And also no one really knows or cares about Cadillac 551 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: in Australia. Well, also, no one's going to get on 552 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: that point. Nobody's going to get really the exclusivity or 553 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: the sort of brand image of a Cadillac, Like someone's 554 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: going to look at a Cadillac and go, you want 555 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: how much for that car? I've barely heard of really 556 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: that American car that my grandpa had. Now and they've 557 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: said here executives made multiple mentions of Cadillacs selling in 558 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: exclusive volumes. Hey, whoever wrote that? Pr shit girl, take 559 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the week off, because that is brilliant. 560 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: This is this one though, a quote from one of 561 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: their executives as well, who said it's going to do 562 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: incredibly well here. 563 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: That is a quote that is going to date very quickly. 564 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: I love that. That's what he said, Like that's is 565 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: she She said, it's going to do very well here. 566 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for that. Do you sound like Pat Cash doing 567 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: commentary at the tennis That was a really good shot. Thanks. Sorry, 568 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: it's just bad cash, just fucking give me the shoots lately, Hey, 569 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: pricing for the new Triton. So I thought, sorry, I'm 570 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: so sorry. No no, no, no you go, no, no 571 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: you go, because I was just going to say, what 572 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: have we got a little Pavlai? But you go right 573 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: into this conversation for here straight up pricing, so no, no, 574 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: you go, thank you, So I'll go. 575 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: So Mitsubishi Triton, there's there's a brand new model by 576 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: the time this goes to where I will have driven 577 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: it FII, but pricing is just lobbed. So it starts 578 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: at forty three six ninety for the entry level Glex 579 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: four x two. That's up three grand, and it caps 580 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: out at sixty three eight forty, which is up by 581 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: around seven thousand dollars for the GSR four by four. Now, 582 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: I thought they were going to go much harder with pricing, 583 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: as in I thought it was going to be a 584 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: whole lot more expensive than what it actually is. So 585 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: the fact that it caps out at just over sixty grand, 586 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: I don't think is the end of the world if 587 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: you have a look at where highlights pricing and range 588 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: of pricing has gone. So I think it's not as 589 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: bad as it could have been. It is still a 590 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: big jump for a vehicle that has changed but hasn't 591 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: changed a huge amount. So I'll be interested to see 592 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: what it's like to drive, what this new twin turbocharged 593 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: engine is like, and whether it feels like a big 594 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: enough improvement to justify the price what do you reckon 595 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: about the design? 596 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: I like this. I like this a lot. I think 597 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: it looks good. They've taken more of a sort of 598 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: a flat stance. It's starting to look a little bit 599 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: sort of that boxy American vibe about it. It definitely 600 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: looks tough. Yeah yeah, look even in the base like 601 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: it looks it doesn't look shit. Yeah, So look, I 602 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I'll be curious to see how it goes. 603 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: The thing that they have to be careful of is 604 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: Chinese brands are cornering the entry level of the market. 605 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: They're pricing themselves really well. And if you look at 606 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: something like the Canon XSR comes with all the bells 607 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: and whistles, and that is just over fifty grand, a 608 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: little over fifty grand, So this is sixty just over 609 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: sixty grand, and it still doesn't have half the equipment 610 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: that the Cannon has. So you've got the Chinese at 611 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: the entry level of the market cornering on pricing, and 612 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: then you've got Ford and Toyta at the top end. 613 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: These guys are trying to sort of slip in in the. 614 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: Middle but sort of jack their price up a little bit, 615 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: and it's like you gotta be careful with that because 616 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: soon you'll have no point. 617 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: Of difference LDVT six sixty. Yes, they look great and 618 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: they're cheap, and they're cheap, and they're TechEd up yep, 619 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: five hundred meters as well, so more than this. So yeah, 620 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: I think that they just need to be careful. 621 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: They are the only ones with the ten ye warranty, 622 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: so I'll be interested to see how it drives, and that'll, 623 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: I guess, will dictate how it goes for them. 624 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: It's a good looking car and it's fitted out well. 625 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: I just hope this works. It just feels like Mitsubishi 626 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: have been on this decline and I remember jumping in 627 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 1: the Mitsubishi the Gero Sport recently, Remember jumping in there, 628 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: going fuck, what has happened to me? It's a bishy Yeah, 629 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: it was just old bits of shitty. You put it 630 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: in there. That's an holy bit of good. Yeah, interesting times. 631 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: Hey did you see the Porsche Panamyror? What do you think? Yeah? 632 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those cars that I'm surprised it 633 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: sort of still exists. Yeah, not that many are sold, 634 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: but that platform will be the basis for a number 635 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: of electric spin offs as well. 636 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: So I can see why they've sort of put some 637 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: effort into it. 638 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, it looks fine. I mean the old one 639 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: looked fine. I'm not really sort of hugely blown away 640 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: by it, but it looked nice. 641 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: TURBOI hybrid YEP nine hundred and thirty n meters talk 642 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: zero to one hundred and three point twenty three point three. 643 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: It sounds good. 644 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: Biggest issue with that car was always packaging, so the 645 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: boot was terrible. 646 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: It was hard to put anything in it. Back seats 647 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: were cramped. 648 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: So all of those numbers are great, but if you 649 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: still haven't fixed the core things with it, then I 650 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: don't really understand. 651 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, the most is non looking Porsche that Porsche make. Yeah, 652 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: it's it is just a car built for a certain market. 653 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: It's like you put a kid in the back or 654 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: the dog and you've got a Porsche YEP. Pretty much. 655 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: I think Donna would sit in the back of that Porsche. 656 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: She'd be all over there. You would love it. You know. 657 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: When you see those cute little images of like the 658 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: bulldog sticking its head out the window, it's like Dodda 659 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: would just be like, is that me tiding over me? Face? 660 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: Now that's me Labbia parafly. Have you missed me? Absolutely not? 661 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: Partly Hey do you want to talk ev? No, Yeah, 662 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: let's do it. 663 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: The twenty twenty four V nine prices start from ninety 664 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 3: seven thousand dollars for the entry level model Area rear 665 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: will drive all the way to one hundred and twenty 666 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: one thousand dollars for the top spack GT line All 667 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: will Drive. 668 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say too much about this other 669 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: than this is the shittest looking car I've ever seen. 670 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: Do not agree. I think it looks fantastic. It's horrendous, 671 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: and when you see it sort of driving at this 672 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: slow little stance, it just looks like a big, plotty 673 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: looking constipated hippo. I think it looks great. Did you 674 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: have the blue one, by the way, Yeah, it was 675 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: a matt colored matte blue ocean blue. That's the worst color. Like. 676 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: I even looked at it in the I think it 677 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: was like a gun metal gray. I thought the black 678 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: might kind of improve on this. No, the wheels and 679 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: it looked like bloody cam Art fry pants. Well, you 680 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: know the thing is with this car. 681 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: Whenever we drive cars, typically if it's new, people will 682 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: turn their heads and be interested in it when we 683 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: did our road trip to Sydney in the seven series. 684 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: It is such a polarizing design. I have never driven 685 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: a car that has turned as many heads as that 686 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: because it is just wow. 687 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, what is that? The EV nine? Nobody cared, Ah, 688 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: nobody cared. It was so weird. 689 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: It was in the top speek trim in ocean blue, 690 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: that matte color. Nobody cared. 691 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: So I just found that really interesting for such a 692 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: polarizing car, just people weren't interested in it at all, 693 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: just based on my assessments. It's so terrible to look 694 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: at that. People will not look at it because they 695 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: will throw up a little bit in their mouth. 696 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: Well I think it looks good. So but let's talk 697 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: about the pricing. So it starts at just under one 698 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: hundred grand. 699 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. One hundred and twenty grand to get 700 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: this thing on the road. Yeah, well in the top 701 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: speck is one hundred and twenty plus on roads which 702 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna want. You don't want the GT line, So 703 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: it is. It is a lot of money. And look, 704 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's one of those cars where. 705 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 2: The interior is beautiful, like they've done a really good 706 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 2: job with just making it look great. 707 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: That I'll agree with that two tone especially does look good. 708 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: It looks like something from a range Rover or something 709 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: like that. And then you look at the steering well 710 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: and you're not in a range Rover. 711 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: But we're talking here about a car that has one 712 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: hundred kilo what our battery in the top spectrium, in 713 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: the mid spectrium, and the best it will afford you 714 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: is five hundred and twelve kilometers of range top circle 715 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: do zero to one hundred and five point three seconds, 716 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 2: So it's. 717 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: Kind of quick. It's not bad, yeah, yeah, but it is. 718 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: It is a lot of money. 719 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: And when I sort of put this into perspective, so 720 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 2: the top speck seven seats one hundred and twenty grand 721 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: plus on roads, that is buying you a top spec 722 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: care Carnival which does your people moving stuff, plus another 723 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: car yep for fun on a weekend for the kid, 724 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? So I think that 725 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: while this had a lot of hype to start with, 726 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: I just don't know how much appeal there's going to 727 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: be here. There is a lot of appeal in the 728 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: entry level of the EV market as we're seeing globally, 729 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: the more expensive stuff from premium brands has just tanked. 730 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: There's pretty much zero off road capabilities in this as well. 731 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: It's not like you can take it on the beach 732 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: or anything like that, right, Well, I mean you could 733 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: if you wanted to. But yeah, could you could put 734 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: a fucking Volkswagen Beetle on the beach if you wanted to. 735 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like anything. Should you Probably not, 736 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't know. I just I'm in two 737 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 2: minds about this. I drove it and enjoyed it because 738 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 2: it was quiet, it had lots of room inside, a 739 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: third road wasn't as spacious as I thought it'd be 740 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 2: for adults. Text great, it does all the sort of 741 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: techy electric stuff really well. 742 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: Charging speeds are goods, et cetera, et cetera. 743 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: But if you look at it in the context of 744 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: the pricing and who was going to be buying this, 745 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 2: you're buying a car that weighs around two point seven tons, 746 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: so it is enormously heavy. 747 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: You can't really toe with it. 748 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: You can't really well if you can't toe with it, 749 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: but you just won't get any range. So for a 750 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 2: vicle it's this size. There are just so many other 751 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: things you could buy that will fit a wider brief. 752 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: You can buy a land cruiser that will do towing 753 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: off road. Seven seats, so. 754 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a Sorrento got seven seats, Sarenha has got 755 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: seven seats. 756 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: It is a smaller vehicle though, this is on a 757 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: three point one meter wheelbase, so it is a big, 758 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: big old thing. So yeah, Look, I don't know, I'm 759 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: keen for anyone listening to this send us an email. 760 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: Contact at the driver's showed at Consday. 761 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: What do you think about this? 762 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: I mean one hundred and twenty grand or even at 763 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: ninety seven grand for the entry level that has a 764 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: smaller battery in less driving round. 765 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: And you're getting a pretty basic interior in that entry level. Yep. Look, 766 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: I came across hard because I just looks as subjective 767 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: and to me this looks just something else. But inside 768 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: I think it looks great. Rooming again, one hundred and 769 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: twenty I just feel like this has got this is 770 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: very fifty to fifty on ticks and crosses, and it is. 771 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: Worth just noting as well that one hundred and twenty 772 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 2: grand for this is cheap in a seven seat electric 773 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: vehicle sense. So if you were to pretend that the 774 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: world only had electric vehicles, now this is actually reasonably 775 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 2: priced compared to like. 776 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: A Model X and other stuff as well. 777 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: So if you were one hundred intent on buying an 778 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: EV for whatever reason, whatever your reasoning is, then this 779 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 2: is actually not bad value for money. But when you 780 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: look at it in the context of everything else that's 781 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: on the market, then it really starts to not. 782 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: Make a great deal of sense. I don't think this is. 783 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: This is this benefits from any subsidies either, because it's 784 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 2: too expensive. So it really does make you wonder who 785 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: is going to be buying it and in what volumes 786 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: will they bring it into the country, because that'll be 787 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 2: the other thing. I mean, we saw with the EV 788 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: six when that was launched, it was impossible to get one, 789 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 2: So what is this going to be like in comparison. 790 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: They did with the EV six. I quite enjoyed that car. 791 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: Well, they brought in a few, but you remember at 792 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 2: the time there was like a two year waiting list. 793 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: So they're now bringing in more of them, and Henda's 794 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 2: bringing in more of their stuff as well. 795 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, should we read some questions comments, Questions you've 796 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: got mel This is a good question. This comes from 797 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: shout out to Marty. Oh, this is from Marty who 798 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: does a podcast called the Jizz Podcast. And guess who 799 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: I guess who was on it? Oh god, I know. 800 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: I thought we were going to be jizzing in a bucket, 801 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: but there was none of that anyway. Shout out to Marty. 802 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: Marty says, why does Paul complain about tesla's but he 803 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: drives one? Please help? Oh okay, but I don't complain 804 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: about them. Let's talk about your content. This week was 805 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: just a photo of you looking unimpressed in the back 806 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: of one, going ooh, the road is shooting the book 807 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: it is. I got into this going, oh, this will 808 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: be great. 809 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: I haven't been in the back of a Tesla before, 810 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 2: and about a minute into it, I'm like, holy shit, 811 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 2: this is terrible. There was no room in there and 812 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: the ride was horrific. 813 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: I was in a Tesla here and it wasn't too bad. 814 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: What sort of tesla was it? Model three? I don't know. 815 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: This one was shit. So how old was yours? It 816 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: was just a Model three. They haven't really changed much. 817 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: There's a new one coming that will hopefully fix the suspension, 818 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 2: but it was horrendous. 819 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: I still think that Tesla Model three is one of 820 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: the quieter out of all the evs, Like so many 821 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: evs are jump into and going, oh god, is a 822 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: bit fucking noisy in here? 823 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: Still, like the new one actually has acoustic glass and 824 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: an additional sort of noise reduction. 825 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: So I think it's advertised it. There's a there's a 826 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: great piece of advertising on their guess insta where the 827 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: windows are down busy traffic, then they put the windows 828 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: up and it's as quiet as anything. And I mean 829 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: sure they probably I bet that's not Yeah, I bet 830 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: that's not dufted. But but just on that, I'm not negative. 831 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 2: I just point out stuff that is shit about them, 832 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 2: and just like every other car, there is stuff that's 833 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 2: shit about them. And I'm not one of those Tesla 834 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 2: fanboys that just thinks the cars are absolutely the best 835 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 2: thing ever, which is what a lot of owners do. 836 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: So clearly they don't like it. Tough titties. That's the 837 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: Pavla Report. Thanks for joining us on the program this afternoon. 838 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: That's Pavla's opinions call us now coming up next to 839 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: the Gordon Program. Now, what really grinds your gar is. 840 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about Punt Road and that Montague 841 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: Street bridge. Why does every fucking bastard just crush into 842 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: that bridge? Okay, here's another question. Hydrogen. Oh okay, So 843 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: this person's asked a few questions. Yeah, okay, and it's 844 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: just literally pick one. Okay, hydrogen or EV for what 845 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,479 Speaker 1: for a car? Well, I there's a rapid fire question. 846 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: Can stop stop EV because I can't fill the hydrogen anywhere. 847 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: So that's that's an easy one. I'm going to go hydrogen, 848 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: just to be where are you going to fill it? 849 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: I'll find places. I'll go to the Young Day headquarters 850 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: and get them to bloody put it out. That's what 851 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: I'll do. Sixty six Mustang or seventy Chevell? Probably the Mustang. Yeah, 852 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: probably the Mustang. Good question though, by the way, this 853 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: comes from Ben Logan. Shout out to Ben Logan. Oh, 854 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: this is a good one ninety two land cruiser with 855 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: the LS one five liter Yeah, the old one, yeah, 856 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: or the brand new one. The old one any day 857 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: of the week. The new one's boring. Agreed. When there's 858 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: a new episode in the works right now, yeah, as 859 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: we speak, literally going on we get a lot of 860 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: questions about merch, and I get updates from gas at 861 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: Machines Plus and they are in the works. He sent 862 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: me T shirts. So we've sent the first batch of 863 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: merch out, so this second batch is in the works. 864 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: And then once that arrives, look at that our mugs. 865 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, once this batch is done, we will we 866 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 2: will make an announcement and get people some new merch, 867 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 2: send it out. I'm wearing my driver's show T shirt 868 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 2: at the moment. I wore it at SeaWorld. He when 869 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm swimming with the dolphins? 870 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: Did you attract that was your majorash foundation thing? How 871 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 1: was that? How was did you swim with the dolphin? 872 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 2: I went to Seawell though, and it was ship Half 873 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 2: the stuff didn't work and the one ride I actually 874 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: got to go on without kids, which got finally got 875 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: to the front of the queue, sat down and it 876 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 2: broke down and there was a trainee running it and 877 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: he's like, oh, do. 878 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: You want to just sit there or come back later. 879 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I'm not going to sit here while 880 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 2: you fix this ride, and then it just sends me 881 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 2: off into space. 882 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: No offense, mate, but like, yeah, no offense kid, But 883 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't take a lot to work out. I don't 884 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: really want to be sitting on a broken ride at 885 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: the Gold Coast because if track records anything to go by, 886 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm fucking out. 887 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean there was actually just very very 888 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: side pointing, very quickly. There was a thing on the 889 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 2: news last night about how they're going to implement more 890 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: safety protocols for carnival ride operators, and it just makes 891 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: you wonder, how have there not been safety protocols so far? 892 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 2: I just find that stuff bizarre. So anyway, see world, Yeah, 893 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 2: half the stuff didn't work. Would not recommend going. 894 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: But even the dolphins were fucking working. Half the dolphins 895 00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: were sitting on the sideline smoking nothing to damn, I'm 896 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,919 Speaker 1: not fucking twisting my fucking body or ouf what. They're 897 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: very good. Yeah, I just made a dolphin say, like 898 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: Louis the Fly, I'm gonna get out of here and 899 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: show ma. She when I bushed out of here, Ma, 900 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to show the world. Meanwhile, your your side piece, 901 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: Donna was sitting there going, pamly, you want to say 902 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,479 Speaker 1: a real paupose, Han, check this out. This is the fish. 903 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: John West rejected, what's that next question. Meanwhile, you're like, 904 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, where's Donna gone? Oh? I know, follow 905 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: the yellow drip road, Benny. He wanted to know about Rivian. 906 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: I was always interested to know how Rivian were going, 907 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: as they looked great but seemed to be reliable. But 908 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: unluckily they'll get here, they might eventually. 909 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 2: Rivian's current business, or the money making business, is the 910 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 2: massive deal they struck with them on to supply electric 911 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 2: trucks for their delivery business. So I think that's where 912 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 2: they're probably focusing a lot of their efforts, plus delivering 913 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: all their customer cars before they sort of get into 914 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 2: right hand drive. 915 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: Well, I need to catch a flight to India. Oh yeah, 916 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: where are you landing, Chennai. 917 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see what the reception is like 918 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 2: when an Australian presents a passport after the World Cup. 919 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: I've heard did not go all that well, not that 920 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: I followed quickly. Is that a sports thing? I think so? 921 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah apparently So anyway, I'll leave my bat and ball 922 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: at home. If you enjoy this and hang on, don't 923 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 1: wrap yet. I don't know about India. Are looking forward 924 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: to in India? Tell me before we get Indian food 925 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: I love Indian food, so I've heard this and this 926 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: is a genuine thing. One of the countries on my 927 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 1: list is I would love to go to India. I 928 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: have been months before. I love to spend some time there. 929 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: I reckon it be awesome. Food was amazing. 930 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 2: Some of the sites, like the taj Mahal when I 931 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 2: went the first time, was absolutely stunning. 932 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: Like I was blown away with that. 933 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 2: Like you literally walk through You're in a queue for 934 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: ages trying to get in and then you walk through 935 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: this sort of gate area and then all of a 936 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 2: sudden it's there in front of you and it is enormous. 937 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: It is amazing. So I like to say it in 938 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: my laugh, just get through the gate. And then she 939 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: puts her spectacles on and she's like, oh, it's not 940 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: actually spectacles. What is this nineteen twenties? Didn't we just 941 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: put my machine eye glass? John? Yeah, India is awesome. 942 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to that and I'll report back 943 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: on our next episode about how that went. 944 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: My advice is, don't drink tap water, no unless you 945 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: want to lose twenty kilos. Hey, I might actually give that, 946 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: give it a go. I think you should do some shots. 947 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: Do some shots come back, Skinny give the az epic arrest. 948 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: Just do a couple of shots of Indian bloody bathroom water. Yeah, 949 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: that'll be fun. 950 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 2: So yeah, So if you do enjoy this show, which 951 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: I think most people would, please leave us a rating 952 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 2: on whichever platform you're listening to. 953 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 1: So if it's spot, I hit follow, hit rate, share, 954 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: tell your friends, and if you do want to get. 955 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 2: In touch with us, contact at the Driver's Show dot 956 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 2: com today you is our email or we're on social 957 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 2: at the Driver's Show dot com today, you're on Insta. 958 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: We get by the way, we get a lot of 959 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: d ms and they're hard to kind of tussle through, 960 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: and once you sort of get through to someone's conversation 961 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, it's hard to if you if 962 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: you've got genuine if you've got genuine questions that you 963 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: want to know about, just email it straight straight there 964 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: and we'll get to it. Thank you. 965 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 2: But yeah, so looking forward to getting old Cadoagus back 966 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 2: on the show. So I think we'll give that a 967 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 2: crack for the next episode. 968 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 1: Basically, the plan is he's going to dress up as 969 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: Santa and True is going to come in and sit 970 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: on his knee and what he wants for Christmas. About 971 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: the first thing that comes up, Yeah, I don't think 972 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: Kdogan hasn't really come in a long time. I think 973 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: if he has, it's just dust. Thank you for listening, everyone, 974 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: goodbye here. We are sorry about the delay everyone. Paul's 975 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: been in surgery and gender reassignment and we will now 976 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 1: refer to him. What did the counselors say, we need 977 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: to call you. I believe it's Paulini. Yes, we're not 978 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: doing this. 979 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 2: This episode is going to be three minutes of actual 980 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 2: stuff and then half an hour of stuff we can't use.