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Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast Mini.

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Speaker 2: I've got a very very special guest, one of our

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Speaker 2: owner joins us live in the studio right now.

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Speaker 1: It's Kate Langbro.

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Speaker 3: The last time we spoke to our next guest, Will,

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Speaker 3: what are you talking about pitching.

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Speaker 4: Things from her pigeonhole?

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Speaker 3: And the latest thing they've stolen is a copy of

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Speaker 3: a brand new book, Joo Bella. That was a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks ago, and since then her pigeonhole has been

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Speaker 3: rather bear. She's coming on to us.

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Speaker 1: Luckily, the book is a fantastic read.

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Speaker 4: It's been worth it.

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Speaker 3: Please welcome back to the show, The Fantastic glove Trotting

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Speaker 3: thirteenth Wonder of the World.

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Speaker 1: It's Kate Lambrook.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thirties. I'm just gonna quit while on my head.

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Speaker 3: That's the greatest intro I've ever had. Should I say

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Speaker 3: I've never had?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful to produce a missus doubt fine, Yes,

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Speaker 2: you put that together always that she's.

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Speaker 3: Really the man that you divorced, dressed up, been closed

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Speaker 3: so that she can access to children.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if I was going to unnecessarily extend the analogy

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Speaker 2: absolutely years now, let's talk about a little bit about

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Speaker 2: you book, Kate, so a lot of people would know,

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Speaker 2: and if you don't, you moved to Bologna, Italy twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: And what I didn't know about this is that it

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Speaker 2: was and please I don't want to put words in

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Speaker 2: your mouth here, but had to do with leukemia journey

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Speaker 2: that one of your kids was going on.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Well, sort of kind of like I think, because people

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Speaker 3: would say all the time, quite reasonably, why are you

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Speaker 3: moving to Italy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a fair question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And because I didn't really have an answer for it.

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Speaker 3: But I think in retrospect it was because we'd had

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Speaker 3: this experience with our son Lewis when he was six

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Speaker 3: was four years of treating Wow and we couldn't go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: So I think for me, I always had the back

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Speaker 3: of my mind that when we could live again, and

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Speaker 3: there were moments where maybe we thought we'd never be

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Speaker 3: able to the way we had.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: That terrible freaking fear and terror, But there was something

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Speaker 3: that I wanted to see, just the opportunity to do

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Speaker 3: something all together. But My husband doesn't think that at all.

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Speaker 3: He thinks and I wouldn't be the first woman in

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Speaker 3: the world who's maybe overthought stuff what are.

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Speaker 4: But he he just thinks we wanted to go live

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Speaker 2: He doesn't see any cause and effect between the fact

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Speaker 2: that you obviously went through quite a traumatic experience with

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Speaker 2: your boy Lewis. He just thinks it was just a

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Speaker 3: But both of us luckily had the desire at the

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Speaker 3: same time to have a circuit breaker on our lives.

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Speaker 4: And to do something different and like some praised.

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Speaker 2: An official CAD because I know, it really is a

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Speaker 2: you know, one day we'll go and live here for

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Speaker 2: it's very much a blue Sky's project. But actually having

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Speaker 2: come out the other side, can you say, like your

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Speaker 2: life is better worse?

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm going to say this. It was, obviously,

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Speaker 4: aside from health.

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Speaker 3: Things, one of the most difficult things I've ever done,

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Speaker 3: the hardest things I've ever done.

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Speaker 4: It was the greatest thing I've ever done.

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Speaker 5: When you thrust into a pretty hectic lockdown as well.

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Speaker 5: I've ever seen you on the project and it was

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Speaker 5: just like lang Brooks trips gone to ship.

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Speaker 1: The most hectically with.

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Speaker 3: That showden Freud, Like there were so many people like

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Speaker 3: ha ha ha, friends going suck it, suck it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone was saying suck it, mate.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're still leaving out fruit and vedge outside at

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Speaker 3: the time, remember that when we thought, oh we can

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Speaker 4: Anyway, don't remember that at the start of us missed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you were, Yeah, you had one of the most

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Speaker 4: Let's not forget China's no, no, we're getting.

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Speaker 1: Into COVID chat. So well, yeah, we'll avoid it.

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Speaker 2: Let's slip into a song and we'll come back with

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Speaker 2: Kate Langbrook on the other side. It's got a brand

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Speaker 2: new book, Chao Bella six Take Italy, available at all

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Speaker 2: good bookstores. You we can catch Kate on the three

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Speaker 2: pm pick up. We'll just stick around because you.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us. Kate Langrock is with the boys in

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Speaker 1: the studio right now. She's got a brand new book,

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Speaker 1: Chao Bella six Take Italy. Kate lived in Italy nine

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Speaker 2: So I was first stressed if this is something that

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Speaker 2: you're considering, Kate, you really are talking about the benefits

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Speaker 2: of your life and actually confronting well.

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Speaker 1: Who you are moving away.

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Speaker 2: From all the comforts that you've got in your friends,

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Speaker 1: But you did go over with your kids.

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Speaker 2: And I've got a question for you because I know

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Speaker 2: you had a weekend trip to Amsterdam to.

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Speaker 4: Chapter. Yes, yes we did.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we were giddy because it was the

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Speaker 3: year prior to the planning, so we were we were

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Speaker 1: To Amsterdam as well, like you know, just a just

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Speaker 4: Of Let me just explain this too.

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Speaker 3: I am Dutch, my dad's Dutch, so it wasn't to

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking what you put down on exactly. And the

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Speaker 3: Certain weeds are totally legal in Amsterdam.

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Speaker 4: they're heavy hitters.

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Speaker 3: Names of some of those weeds, yes, you know, they're like,

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Speaker 3: know what will happened. And the children read that chapter. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm old enough to know better. But because we have

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Speaker 5: I couldn't agree more. Yeah, I've got a question about

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Speaker 1: And it's funny I look at you, Kate and go, oh, you'll.

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Speaker 5: Be fine, you know what I mean, Like if you

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Speaker 5: jobs will just come, you know, the officer will run.

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Speaker 5: What was your mindset? Was that something that scared you

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Speaker 3: My husband initially said when we had the idea, Peter

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Speaker 4: You can't let the work. You love your work. And

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Speaker 3: not asking you to wait for me. Now. Often we

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Speaker 4: There is no failure.

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Speaker 1: No, that's right. Like even if we'd.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we didn't. We came back after two years.

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Speaker 3: We had a pandemic, We made new friends, We speak

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Speaker 2: It's a wonderful message and I think it's over that

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Speaker 2: you guys can all learn for yourselves. If you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get a copy of Kate's book, chow Bella six Take Italy,

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Speaker 2: available in all good bookstores, it seems like the underlying

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Speaker 2: theme there Kate is really step away from the achievement

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Speaker 2: equals happiness model.

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Speaker 1: And go and live a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, said most men spend their life fishing

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Speaker 5: Thereafter, Oh wow, that was deep, Oh how stunning.

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Speaker 3: I of course I'm a poor fishing companion because apparently

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Speaker 2: You can see you can hear Kate Langbrook if you

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Speaker 2: like her talking too much, which is what we all like.

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Speaker 2: She's on a three pm pick up obviously right here

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Speaker 2: on Kiss or Go, and gave a book from all

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Speaker 2: good bookstores chow Beller six Take Italy. Kate, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for joining becuse it's always a pleasure to.

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Speaker 1: Have you on the show mate as well. That's what

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Speaker 1: it is. Speak to you soon, my friend. Hear more

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Speaker 1: of the boys on the full show podcast. You know

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Speaker 1: you want to