1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: If you're listening to the Jonesy and Demanda podcast. Editor 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: of The Daily Oz no Less, Emma Gillespie, Hello, well, hello, 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: how are we? We're very well. What's Poppin', babes. I'm oh, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: it's popping big time, babes. I'm so excited to talk 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: about one of my favorite shows of all time, which 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: has been scandalized with a Netflix documentary, America's Next Top Model. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: There's this new three part series all about the show 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: on Netflix, exposing all the kind of big scandals that 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: we now know about. But when we looked at the 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: time at this show, everyone thought it was all fine 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: and it was all good. But wow, where to even begin. 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: It's bad. It goes from bad to worse. It starts 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: with kind of setting up the hype around this show, 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: which of course was watched by not only hundreds of 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: millions of people in the US but around the world. 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: America's Next Top Model inspired hundreds of spin offs. Of course, 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: we had our own one here, Australia's Next Top Model, 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: but the US version had a twenty four season run 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: between twenty three and twenty eighteen. It was the brainchild 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: of Tyra Banks, supermodel, who created the show. She said 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: she wanted to open up all these doors in the 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: fashion industry in modeling for women who didn't fit the mold. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: But what we ended up seeing over the decades was 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: a show that really kind of reinforced those traditional values, 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: a lot of body shaming. They used to do these makeovers. 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: One story where a girl who actually went on to 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: win the series had this tooth gap and it was 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: kind of like her signature look. She looked really interesting. 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Because of this tooth gap, Tyra made her have a 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: procedure to close it. The girl said she didn't want it. 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: She pushed back multiple times. They ended up telling her 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: she was going to get booted from the show if 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: she didn't close the gap. She's really traumatized by that. 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: Then a couple of years later, there was a contestant 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: that had a little bit of a gap and they said, 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: we're going to open that gap right up. I think 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: it's amazing. We're going to deform your mouth and stretch 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: you open. If this is all this off camera, this 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: stuff wasn't covered storylines. This is all behind the scenes. 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: It was covered a little bit from what we see, 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: but it's so much more sinister in the background. We've 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: now learned. There is this one storyline that is just 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: disgraceful to look back on two thousand and four season two. 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: It's the story of a model named Shandy. Now. She 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: was only in her very early twenties at the time. 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: She was in Milan. There was this situation where they 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: had this kind of after party after a photo shoot. 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: She got blackout, drunk and had sex with a driver 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: from the shoot that day. But what we now know, 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: or what her story has been revealed to be, is 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: that she was completely blacked out. She did not give consent. 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: She was so vulnerable, she hadn't eaten all day, and 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: no one in the production team stepped in, no one 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: stopped it from happening. They went into the bathroom and 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: filmed the entire thing happen, and then instead of looking 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: after this girl after the fact, they turned the whole 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: story into a plot that she had cheated on her boyfriend, 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: that it was a cheating scandal. The episode about this 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: in Top Bottle season two is called the Girl who Cheated, 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: and she was made to feel so horrific they publicly 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: they filmed her going to the doctor to get an 62 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: STI test, just a horrifying lack of duty of care. 63 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: And what's quite disappointing about the doco now is that 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: all these years later, no one's really taken accountability. None 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: of the kind of executive producers, not Tyra, not really 66 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: anyone involved has put their hand up and said we 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: really let her down. They've all kind of passed the buck. 68 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: It's well, that wasn't my choice, or I had nothing 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: to do with production, or I had nothing to do 70 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: with the storylines. So that has been the biggest shock 71 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: out of it. But I think that one anecdote really 72 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: sort of speaks to the culture of the show, that 73 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: it became so much bigger than being a contestant about models. 74 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: It became a reality TV juggernaut. And with that, you know, 75 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: contestants no longer become humans or young girls. They're ultimately 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: commodities for these massive networks. But if you want to 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: be confronted, it's a really, really fascinating take this three 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: part series on Netflix right now. Thank you. M I 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: had to fix my teeth once for that TV show. 80 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: It takes to remember the singing show and that there 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: was an agent was courting me said get your teeth fixed. 82 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: I went for the audition and didn't get it. Did 83 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: they fix it for free? No, I had to pay 84 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: for it. I didn't get the gig. He's a victim. 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: What a victim? Thank you m okay. Your download is complete.