WEBVTT - David Wenham and M*A*S*H 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.240 Get a Pete Helly here, welcome to you Ain't Seen 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.000 Nothing Yet? The movie podcast where I chat to a 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:07.120 movie lover about a classic or beloved movie they haven't 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.600 quite got around to watching until now. And today's guest 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:19.520 acting Royalty David Wenham all below. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:21.560 I want to stay here with you. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:42.159 To the jobble, why hate snake Shocked whil they couldn't 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:43.839 happening right now? 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:45.639 You ain't seen nothing yet? 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.320 What a huge David. You ain't seen nothing yet, the 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:57.640 great David. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.080 I have been a massive as all cinematic fans are 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.400 of David Wenham all the way back to see Change 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.160 of course on the smaller screen, but he's certainly graduated 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.320 not long after that to the big screen in great 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:11.160 films such as. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.399 The Boys Getting Square, which a film will. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.000 Come up today because he's got to follow up to 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.840 that called Spit, which is in cinemas now as this 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:23.400 goes out. It is a fantastic follow up and one 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.720 that I wasn't expecting. I was David was on the 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:26.680 project a few years ago. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:27.240 We got chatting. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.120 I told him how much I love Getting Square and 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.479 he said, funnily enough, we've just confirmed that we're doing 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:37.240 a sequel based on his great character Johnny spitz Fortiri, 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.800 who I think is one of the great comedic creations 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.959 on screen. To be honest, he's such a funny character 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:45.520 and the movie is great. We're going to talk to 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.080 David about that. Your name from Lord of the Rings, 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.880 Mullan Rouge, Elvis Parraz to the Caribbee and younger or 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.960 folks with kids will know him from Peter Rabbit three 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.639 hundred and he's always made the big films. He's always 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.720 made films in Australia as well, such as Line three Dollars, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:08.120 The Proposition, one of my all time favorites, Goldstone, so 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.880 many he is literally can I say literally? 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.560 Well, he's acting royalty, He really is. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.840 He's up there at the top astelong of ossie actors 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.519 of all time and I'm bloody stoked to be hanging 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.280 with him today. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.640 Hi. I'm David Wynham and my three favorite films today 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.680 are Wake and Fright Now. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.480 Vanity is spawned by fear. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:46.480 Here are the dogs and rats in the Rats. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.160 And she wants to run, but she's being stymied by mcinda. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.560 He reckons he would be better than her. And I 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:53.600 just happened to leak it. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:58.480 To the Herald, and up until yesterday, I had never 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.600 seen the movie Mash. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.200 Through the horny. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:12.160 Fog, see visions of the things to be, the pains 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:13.560 that are with. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.160 Held for me, I realizon. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:23.360 I can't see. 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.959 That suitside is painless. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:32.799 It brings on many changes, and I can take. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.840 On it if I please, Yes, And we'll get to 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.560 that song certainly throughout the chat. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:38.920 Today. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.240 There are very few films that have a legacy quite 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:45.160 like Robert Otman's nineteen seventy war comedy Mash. Set in 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.480 a field hospital during the Korean War, we follow surgeons 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:53.080 Hawkeye Donald Sutherland and trapper Elliott Gould, who navigate the 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.480 horrors of their day to day by boozing and cracking wise. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.760 When Major Margaret haul of Hann arrives siding with air 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:05.000 nemesis Robert Deval's major Frank Burns, Hawkeye and Troda decided one, 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.040 if not both must go. 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.000 Based on a book by Richard. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.040 Trotter from a screenplay by Ring Lardner Junior, for which 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.440 he won the film's only oscar. More on that later, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.560 it was nominated for Best Film, losing to another war film, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.600 Patton Oltman lost to Pattern's Franklin Shaffner for Best Director, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.200 Sally Callaman nominated for her portrayal of lips hulahand lost 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.359 to Helen Hayes. In Airport, it also lost Danford B. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.159 Green the director Sorry the Editor also missing out. But 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.560 of course, the movie's legacy comes in the form of 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.839 the TV sitcom it created, much to the chagrin of 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.960 the late Robert Oltman. Mash is considered one of the 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.080 great American sitcoms and also one of the longest lasting 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.600 TV series, compiling of two hundred and fifty one episodes 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.520 runn fromnineteen seventy two to nineteen eighty three, with the 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.080 Mash finale remaining the single most watched episode of a 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.000 broadcast TV show ever. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.760 David Wennan, did you grow up in a Mash diet 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:58.400 in your house? 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:05.000 Uh? No, No, but strange enough that the song suicide 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.160 is painless? It seemed to be everywhere when I was 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.680 growing up, and the only time I did see Mash, 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.800 I think I'm the last of seven kids. Maybe one 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.040 of my sisters used to watch it and I'd hear 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.279 the song. The only thing I remember are the helicopters, 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.240 which I was obsessed by as a kid because they 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.240 looked like I love the shape of them, the fact 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.200 that there was this glass bubble that looked like the 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.000 eye of a fly that only the pilot and one 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.760 other person could sit in, and then this very thin 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.600 skeletal structure that was like a praying mantis that could 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.640 just hover and twist on a dime and then fly off. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.719 That I was obsessed with. But the show itself I 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.919 didn't really come across until later on. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.920 Actually, yeah, it wasn't really in my house by the 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:52.600 time I was born in seventy five. It was around yeah, 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.560 but it was always almost like cricket during summer. It 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.599 was always a round in the background somewhere, you know, 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.520 and I a millie my house could It's usually in 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.600 the foreground during summer. But I was more at that stage, 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.840 probably UK comedies, Young. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.760 Ones and that stuff, and America. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.000 It was family ties and cheers by the time I 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.719 was really starting to get into into watching TV. But 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.800 it is like there's so many people don't even know 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.160 there's a movie. When I discussed or mentioned that you're 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:20.920 coming on, oh my films, he hasn't seen. That's a 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.279 mash And a few people went to the TV series. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:25.600 It's going to take it forever. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.400 So I it's and I hadn't seen it, so I'm 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.200 really glad I can tick this one off from myself. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.920 Robert Otins nineteen seventy mash. We've got a lot to 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.599 talk about, including the film that you have out now speak. 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.719 We're going to get to that very soon, which I loved. Well, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.719 let's talk about your three favorite films, three Aussie films, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.279 as it were, Wake in Fright. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.000 Of course you were part of the TV series the remake. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.120 Yeah, you don't bring that up. We can just park that, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:52.920 I think and move on. 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.279 I enjoyed that, but I mean it is a tough 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.520 thing to follow the original. The original film we covered 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.680 on this podcast with Ross and Noble and him being 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.800 from Newcastle in England, he got quite a shock of 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.120 the film and also but he also said that it 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.960 rung true for him, like he could. He's a non drinker, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.920 so he's been around comedy, you know, and backstage and 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.680 around festivals, around a bit of a drinking culture in 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:23.240 comedy surprise, and he could understand, he said, he could 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.680 actually quite understand. You can understand it. He knows what 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.440 it's like to be around people drinking and that point 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.680 of the evening where things feel like they're about to 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.320 tip out of control. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.680 Yeah. Terrifying, Yeah, absolutely terrifying. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:37.360 It really is. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.480 I remember the first time I saw it was Anthony 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.840 Buckley who produced one of the very first things I did. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:44.600 Years and years and years ago. I did a television 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.120 series called The Heroes, which was based on a true 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.680 story of a fishing boat called the christ and a 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:56.280 bunch of Australian soldiers dressed up as Indonesian fishermen, got 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.920 on a boat, went into Singapore Harbor and attached limpid 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.760 minds to the naval vessels in there and blew up 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.280 all these vessels and then came back and they survived 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.760 the first mission. They did it again. So Anthony Buckley 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.480 produced this thing called The Heroes. It was one of 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.440 the first things I did with He goes really a 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.400 collected cast. Cameron Dado, Jason Donovan who was going out 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.360 with Kylie at the time. Wow, and Kylie would come 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.400 up and she'd stay with us up you know, in 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.720 northern Queensland, and one day I saw her washing Jason's clothes. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:24.480 So there we go. 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:26.320 The anecdotes have started here. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.200 We go we had you. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.520 Yeah try now I'm going to Yeah. I think I'm 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.720 going to be canceled very quickly if I go. And 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.040 then one of my favorite actors of all time, a 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.480 great Australian actor called John Hargraves, was in it. Yes, 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.640 so I mind him for information. But Anthony Buckley, who 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:46.640 produced that, found a copy. Because Waken Fright disappeared for years, 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.920 there was never a print. Somebody found it and Anthony 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.560 Buckley took it upon himself to get that sort of 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.439 fixed up on whatever and he got it eventually re released. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.439 I was at the first screening of that in at 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.200 the not the Valhalla, the chaven Well in Paddington for 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.520 the very first screening of that re release. I remember 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.439 when I saw it, I just blew my mind. I 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.440 just thought, that is the greatest Australian film I have 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.760 ever seen. It was it was shocking, It was like 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.680 it was visceral. I felt that film on so many 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:21.559 different levels. The performances were just yeah, brilliant. From Chip's 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.920 Rafferty playing Jock this nightmarish policeman. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.000 Drink filming or not long after filming, and the drinking 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.400 because he was drinking for real. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.920 Yeah, he's very thirsty man. He held it very well. Yeah, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.160 and you could see it in his eyes. It was like, yeah, 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.400 that guy, Yeah, there was power within his eyes. Who 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.880 else who jack one. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.040 Of his first jack first? 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.080 And that incredible sequence on the back of the truck 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.440 when they go reshooting at night and it's like, you'd 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.080 never be able to do that now, there's no you know, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.800 O H and S would just never allow you to 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.000 do it in a million years. It was so dangerous, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.320 but you felt that danger. You thought, oh my god, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.319 these guys they're on the back of this truck in 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.040 the middle of the night, only with a spotlight going 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.960 I don't know, maybe eighty kilometers one hundred kilometers over 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.920 these things with rifles shooting real ammunition, and you just thought, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.959 oh my god, any bump, any turn of that wheel 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:17.959 and they're going to go yeahs over. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.319 So you hear about those nineteen seventies Australian filmmaking George 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.720 Miller Man Max and the outlaw nature of it, and 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.880 it's great to hear about it. Is there part of 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.719 you that would would have loved to have experienced that 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:31.600 or you've got quite happy to go No, I like 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:32.960 that sets as safe in that. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:33.280 No. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.280 Look, I've been been around for a little while now, 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.000 so yeah, I began when it was relatively unsafe, and 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.800 I've got to be honest, I quite liked the Maverick approach. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.880 A little bit. A little bit of danger, I think 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.559 is not a bad thing, just a little bit. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.720 Well, the thing we're talking about today acertainly has that, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.520 I think in spades. A Year of the Dogs, Tipic, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.760 this is the AFL it is, then Footscray Fretty Club documentary, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:57.160 it is. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:58.880 And the only reason, well the reason I picked out 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.960 it was like, you know, you've I didn't do my homework. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.160 I've got to be honest, Pete. I know you asked 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.680 me a while ago to pick my three best and 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.280 I concentrated just on the film that I had to watch, 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.000 and then I received this email only about half an 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:11.800 hour agoing. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.240 Oh shit, you have the rewatched these with But by 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.240 the way, you said something to me which blew my 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.439 mind before we started recording. You said that you were 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.319 very rarely seen a film twice. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.000 Yeah, there's not too many I can think off the 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.040 top of my head. Don't look now is one that 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.480 I definitely have, only because I happened to have been 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.640 in places where I was playing. So I did watch 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.160 it again. No, very really, I often I can't think 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.400 of any others off the top of my head, and 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:36.120 there's no red. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:37.839 You had those comfort films because people off the top 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.120 I no. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:39.240 I do. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.600 The only things that I have seen more than once 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.520 is you know, I've got two daughters. One there's now 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:49.080 twenty one sixteen, and Princess Bride is one that they 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:50.959 would have seen like dozens of times. So I just 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.439 pop in every now and again and catch catch scenes there. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.840 But otherwise, no, I don't seek out films that I've seen. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:57.000 So a Year of the Dogs? 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:57.640 Why why? 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:57.880 Why? 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.679 Okay, I was thinking that there's there's a whole heap 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.920 of films that I love, but I can't honestly just pick. Okay, 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.000 these my top three. Difficult. But what I do know, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.440 and what I can tell you is that the films 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:13.319 that I gravitate towards are documentaries. I find it really, 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:18.160 really difficult to watch narrative feature films or television because 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.960 it's nearly impossible for me to turn off my critical 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:26.120 faculty and it and it's very frustrating. So I watched 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.920 the films and it's not just performance, as I see 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.520 the mechanics behind it, and I just wish I could 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.080 switch that off so I could just have it as 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.800 a piece of entertainment, but I can't. So yeah, frustrating. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:41.160 So that's why documentaries, for me, they're surprising and they 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.640 can affect me and move me and humor me like 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.640 a feature film. Can't like that one that I picked, 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.200 And as I say, yeah, I've only seen that film once. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.280 Year of the Dogs when it was released in I 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.640 think nineteen ninety seven, the year after that year that 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.160 it was filmed in, but I remember it being it 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.280 just drew me in. I love AFL, you know, an 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.120 ambassador for the Swans. But that year was incredible for 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.640 Footscray and the draft. You couldn't script that any better. 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.200 And then the change of the coach. Within the season, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.959 one of the young players got cancer. One of their 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.520 great players, you know, was forced to retire. The two 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.119 fans that they followed through that year. The passion and 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.120 the distress that had caused these two ladies who you know, 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.280 the dogs were their life. It's like it was it's 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.320 Shakespearean and then as well, I remembered so clearly because 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.720 Terry Wallace halfway through the season took over the Dogs 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.520 famously and that brilliant line that he said at the 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.920 time berating the players, and he said, you know, if 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.640 you do that again, I'm going to spew up. And 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:50.280 then he was a possibility to take over as coach 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.320 from Rodney Eid at the Swan's. And I remember, not 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.280 long after I saw that film, somebody painted this banner 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.960 that they took to the to the Swans. Collis was reached. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.000 Collis was the chairman of this ons and it said Collis, 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.480 if you choose Wallace, I'll spew you up. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.800 I was chatting with just this week actually, Bob Murphy, 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:17.080 Bulldog's Legend and they're now doing Bricky Radio came on 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.160 this podcast to do Butchercasid in the Sundance Kid. 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.160 We both love that. 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:22.640 And there's a there's a kind of a feeling that's 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:26.760 gone viral online about Rocketed in the commentary box and 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.040 he's going crazy, he's going mentally, he's get. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.240 Him half and then or the other coach. You go, okay, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.280 settle down, mate, we can't think, we can't think. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.160 He goes, oh sorry, sorry, fucking get him off and 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.200 he Bob said to me, he has a crazy thing 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:41.440 is that wasn't a final? 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.920 That would that be round six practice match? 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.600 Appreciate I actually within within the club. It's relatively well 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.040 known fact. And I wasn't an ambassador of the Swans 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.680 at that stage, but i'd followed them pretty much since 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.640 they'd moved up from South Melbourne. And it was Michael 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.960 O locke very first match and I was a little 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.520 bit after actually after his first match, and he berated 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.280 him at a during a postmatch press conference and Rodney, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.080 if you're listening, I know that you know this story. 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.720 And I apologize, but he berated him and I wrote, 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:17.560 I'd never done this before in my life. It's like 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.520 it just got me because I could see the potential 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.440 of this guy, that Michael Lochlin, who did go on 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.760 to be a champion of the club. And I wrote 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:25.960 this letter to him and I said, you know, miss 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.520 bah bah Baha. I said, look, I'm an actor and 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:35.200 I know what I do. It relies on confidence, and 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.360 you need to have confidence in order I need to 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.760 have confidence in order to deliver my best. The same 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.240 thing I'm sure would happen with a football player if 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.280 you instill confidence in that person, they're going to be 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.840 able to realize their best. But if you tell somebody 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.400 they're bad enough for long enough, it becomes a self 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.080 fulfilling prophecy. And I went through all the different moments. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.800 Bah bah bah it hit a chord. Rodney, to his 0:15:55.880 --> 0:16:00.800 great credit, typed a letter back which I subse quantly framed, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.640 and every now and again it was taken into the club. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.520 But he addressed every one of my points, to his 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.480 great credit, and he said, you know, I take it 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.000 on board, blah blah blah, and I make sure that 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.080 I do. You know, positive reinforcement in future. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.160 That is great to hear, because you know, you hate. 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:15.280 I know we're not talking about film here. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:18.360 You know we love that. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.120 But we'll move on because we will move on the 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.240 politics in a second, because rockety yeah, you hate for 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:25.800 these things to go violin. And the only thing you 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.640 people remember from a coach is him ranting in the 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.920 coach's box because obviously he coached for a very long 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.680 time and it was bloody good. He's a bloody good coach. Yeah, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.040 rats in the rank. Another Ossie documentary, Yeah. 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.000 Another one. I was just thinking through them all and 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:40.000 I just off the top of my head and I 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.160 thought I'll just go Aussie. Yeah, you know, waking from 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.240 the two ossy ones. I remember when I saw that, 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.000 and I grew up. I didn't grow up in For 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.600 those who don't know, it's about like art council. It's 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.680 about the events leading up to an election for local 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.800 council election. And it's called rats in the Rank for 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:57.800 very good reason or rat's in the rank because people are, 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.760 you know, undermining each other left right center, and it's 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.399 extraordinary that these people, I suppose it was before the 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:09.199 ubiquity of reality television. The fact that there's cameras on 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:13.200 them at all time and they're allowing these phone calls 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:18.160 to be filmed whereby they're basically dissing each other. Yeah, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.119 it was extraordinary, extraordinary. In fact, I looked at a 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.359 little just before I came to the studio. Though. Oh 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.520 I tried to find a trailer for it. There's not 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.359 a I couldn't find a trailer, but I saw a 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.679 thirty second clip from it, so that's I don't know 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.760 what year it was, but bizarrely, Larry Hand who was 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.760 the mayor at the time, and basically the clip is 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.240 talking about Elbow at the time. That's a long time ago. 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.439 Say yeah, yeah, Well, Alba says, well, don't tell him. 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.200 I'm not going to tell him that, you know. Albert said, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.280 don't tell Albow. Don't tell Alba. It's extraordinary. He's now 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:48.919 the Prime minister. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:50.840 There you go. That is that is fascinating. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:52.600 It's a great piece. It's like and then I just 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:57.320 thought of documentaries as well. It's there. Yeah. They moved me, 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.320 and they fascinate me, and they intrigued me. And then 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.520 I thought that there's a couple actually I thought, oh, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.439 they're left of field ones that in a way have 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.199 had an effect on me. One of them is an 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.200 American documentary called Waiting for Superman. I don't know if 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.920 you know it. It's about the American schooling system. It's 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.879 quite old now, but when I saw that, I was 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:22.280 a horrified but also to me then everything made sense, 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.160 especially about where America is at the moment. It's about 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.520 the public schooling system in America and how it essentially 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:33.200 is completely broken, not slightly completely broken. Unless you unless 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.600 you have money, like big money to be able to 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.600 send your kid to a private school, well good luck, 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.480 because you're not going to get an education. It's terrifying. 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.480 So what I used to do years ago, when I'd 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.040 spend quite a lot of time in Los Angeles friends 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.359 of mine who would consider moving to Los Angeles, I 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:52.240 had a little batch of DVDs of that film, and 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:53.960 I would give it to them and just say, hey, look, 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:55.679 if you're having kids and whatever, have a look at 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.320 that before you think you're settling down here. 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:58.000 Wow. 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.720 It was really powerful struck me, and then I thought, 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.400 and then here we go. Another one that I thought 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.880 that would be a good one is Megan Washington, who's 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.160 a maid of mine. She was talking about this doco 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.359 that she'd seen that she's thinking of turning into an opera, 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.880 and it's called if you heard of find As Keepers. No, 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.600 it's like it's out there. It's set in I can't 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.880 remember exactly which stated to the Southern State of America. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.199 It's about this guy. His father is a pilot. They 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:27.240 have a really sort of fraught relationship. The father's flying 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.080 one day and the plane crashes and the father dies 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.639 and the son is sort of maimed and has to 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:39.679 have his leg amputated, and in order for him to 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:44.639 after the amputation, he asks the hospital for his foot. 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:46.439 But they don't just give me his foot. They give 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.600