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Speaker 1: Jobs with Jones and Amanda Well. Yesterday our Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: addressed the country with a history making similars to all

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Speaker 1: the nation back from the COVID recession.

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Speaker 2: As we live and breathe.

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Speaker 3: How are you going go you Amanda? Why are you well?

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Speaker 3: It's been busy a few days down here in camera,

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Speaker 3: as it always is.

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Speaker 2: What have you been up to? Anything happening on what

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Speaker 2: you've been doing? But I will say this, I was

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Speaker 2: reading about the budget yesterday and for as far as

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Speaker 2: I can tell, Scott, it seems fine to me. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you guys seem to be handling this. Someone did say, though,

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Speaker 2: it's the spoonful of sugar without the medicine, meaning that

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Speaker 2: you guys are just doing this so you can be

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Speaker 2: guaranteed to win in the next year's election.

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Speaker 3: Is that That's that's the sort of political thing people say.

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Speaker 3: But that's pretty cynical. But what the budgets about is

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Speaker 3: bad jobs. I mean the COVID recession, and this recession

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Speaker 3: has been caused by the COVID pandemic and we saw

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Speaker 3: a million people lose jobs, have their hours reduced to zero.

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Speaker 3: We've got to get strains back into work and the

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Speaker 3: budget lays out a plan to do just that, to

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Speaker 3: bring a lot of decisions forward for people to hire

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Speaker 3: new people on top of their existing workforce. No one

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Speaker 3: gets a hiring credit unless they're having additional jobs. They

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Speaker 3: can't let some people go and deploy new ones and

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Speaker 3: get the credit. It's got to be new jobs we're

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Speaker 3: bringing forward, getting them bring forward investment decisions with the

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Speaker 3: tax and centives that we're put in place for there.

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Speaker 3: We're bringing forward the tax cuts to give people a

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Speaker 3: bit more breathing room and to be able to get

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Speaker 3: them to spend that. In the economy. We're bringing forward

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Speaker 3: infrastructure projects like Dunhavid Road out there in western Sydney

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Speaker 3: or down at heath Coat and other places. This is

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Speaker 3: all about getting projects happening on the ground. But longer term,

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Speaker 3: you know, we've got the gas Plan and the Energy Plan,

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Speaker 3: the Manufacturing Plan to boost jobs and advanced manufacturing. It's

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Speaker 3: a billion dollars in there for universities research too, and

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Speaker 3: we know how important that is in terms of finding

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Speaker 3: the solutions for the future and for our sectors. So

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Speaker 3: it's a very big program and we know it's a

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Speaker 3: very big burden, but equal to the size of the challenge.

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Speaker 3: The global recession is forty five times worse than the GFC.

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Speaker 1: And I do know that you know this time last

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Speaker 1: year you certainly didn't foresee that there'd be a sixty

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Speaker 1: seven billion dollar.

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Speaker 2: And death said, you'd have lost sleep.

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Speaker 1: You would have thought, are we being invaded by aliens?

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Speaker 2: What's happening?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's true, and I got it there. We still

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Speaker 3: lost a bit of sleep. We saw quite a bit

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Speaker 3: when we saw just how significant the impact of this

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Speaker 3: COVID crisis is. But I mean, the real impact is

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Speaker 3: being felt by Australians on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you this though, I know that you've

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Speaker 1: talked about getting women back into the workforce. Childcare is

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Speaker 1: a big part of that. And I know that at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic the government made childcare free.

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Speaker 1: Why couldn't that continue?

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Speaker 3: That's six billion dollars extra year. We spend nine billion

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Speaker 3: dollars already on childcare supports. And prior to the COVID

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Speaker 3: recession hitting, we'd actually got labor force participation, but particularly

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Speaker 3: a number of people in the workforce. We got women

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Speaker 3: in the workforce to the highest level we'd ever had.

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Speaker 3: The gender pay gap had reduced to the lowest level

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Speaker 3: we've ever had, and that's because of the changes we

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Speaker 3: made to childcare some years ago. And that had actually

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Speaker 3: led to for twenty five percent just under that two

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Speaker 3: dollars per hour with the out of pocket expenses for parents,

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Speaker 3: and for the vast majority, seventy one percent, five dollars

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Speaker 3: per hour per child was what we have to got

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Speaker 3: that down to. And child care costs had fallen by

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Speaker 3: three percent. So the changes we made a number of

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Speaker 3: years ago, which gives those a lowering comes eighty five

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Speaker 3: percent rebates. So there were big changes that we put

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Speaker 3: in childcare, nine billion dollars a year, and we'll always

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Speaker 3: look to see how things can work better. But just

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Speaker 3: giving everybody everything for free, that's not what this budget's

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Speaker 3: about now, and I.

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Speaker 1: Know it can't be. But if if women want to

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Speaker 1: into the workforce, there's a lot of hard hat jobs,

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Speaker 1: but it's to get more women into the workforce. Who's

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Speaker 1: going to look after buy and large it is the

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Speaker 1: women that do the childcare. How are we going to

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Speaker 1: manage that?

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Speaker 3: Well? Just I said, the childcare changes we put in

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Speaker 3: place before the recession was all already achieving that. It

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Speaker 3: was actually getting more places, more people, are costs down,

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Speaker 3: and it was being very effective. But I wouldn't say, Amanda,

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Speaker 3: this is these jobs just for Haart Hats. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: say that at all. I mean two of the biggest

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Speaker 3: areas of growth in our in employment, of the one

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Speaker 3: and a half million jobs that were created before the

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Speaker 3: COVID recession, they are in areas in the services areas.

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Speaker 3: They are in things like care industries, in age care

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Speaker 3: industries and disability care industries. They're in the hospitality industries

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Speaker 3: and that's where we want to see the jobs come

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Speaker 3: as well. These jobs incentives, they're for every every sector

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Speaker 3: of the economy. It doesn't target any one sector, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't target any one gender. It targets getting Australians. Australians

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Speaker 3: know this is a budget for all Australians because we've

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Speaker 3: all got to get out of this together. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's all I can say is thank god we're

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Speaker 2: not America. That's all I can say. I know, I

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Speaker 2: know that you were on a you can't speak too

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Speaker 2: openly about what's going on in America. But I just

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Speaker 2: watch what's going on there and I think we're watching

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Speaker 2: an empire crumble before our very eyes.

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Speaker 3: Well, they are a very important ally for Australia and

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Speaker 3: our relationship with the United States is very strong. It's

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Speaker 3: never been stronger. But my focus is to focus here,

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Speaker 3: as you know, guys, and do what's right for Australians.

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Speaker 3: I observe what happens overseas, what's done well and otherwise,

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Speaker 3: and we just have had a even though it's been

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Speaker 3: really hard here in Australia, and that's true, particularly those

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Speaker 3: south of the border down in Melbourne, but our country

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Speaker 3: has actually done better in weathering this storm and pushing

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Speaker 3: the bioeconomically and suppressing the virus better than almost any

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Speaker 3: other country in the world. There's only South Korea, Norway, Finland,

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Speaker 3: there's ourselves and the economy of Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's more cases in the White House

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Speaker 1: than all those countries combined.

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Speaker 3: Sorry I missed that.

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Speaker 1: I think there's more cases in the White House at

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Speaker 1: the moment than all those countries combined.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wish must be a millennial speedy recovery.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Donald has got time to whack up a

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Speaker 2: chicken coop and which you're doing. So that just speaks

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Speaker 2: volumes to me, Scott. I know you're busy. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for joining us. Prime Minister always a treat.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks a lot, you guys and you lucky the Raster, Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Let's not even talk about the Sharks com and it's

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Speaker 2: not even talk

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Speaker 3: With join z and Amanda,