WEBVTT - 🎙️ Peter Helliar - Comedic Royalty 🤣 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.399 Welcome back to The Mason Cox Show, ladies and gentle man. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.280 First of all, amazing, thank you for everyone for jumping 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:12.920 on the first few episodes we've had and all the 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:14.920 people that have shared and liked in comment and everything. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.520 We've really loved your support and we're really looking forward 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:19.720 to the future. And today we've got an amazing person 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:26.280 on and Peter Helliard. Now he's done everything from TV radio, news, project, movies. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:28.560 He's a guy that's all over the media. He's got 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.880 some amazing, amazing stories that he's told with us here today, 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.600 and I'm really excited for you all to get stuck 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:40.280 into this and check it out. Suck listen in all right, everyone, 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.800 welcome back to The Mason Cox Show. It is episode two. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.000 We've got an amazing guest on today, someone who I 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.160 idolized and has been such a successful person in his career. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:53.000 He's a comedian, actor, TV star, radio presenter, writer, producer, director, 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.760 anything and everything he's done. He's been nominated for Gold Logie, 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.280 the most Popular Personality on Television even and he's one 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.440 of my favorite player, favorite people in the media. Right now, 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.480 we've got the man, the myth, the legend, Peter Hellier. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.120 Welcome to the podcast, Mason Cox. Thanks for having me. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.200 Usually I wouldn't get in the strangers van, but it 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.360 was yeah, you're not a stranger, your friend and yeah, 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:14.680 here we are. What a setup. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.800 Yeah, it's amazing, man, it's so good to have you on. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.800 I think a lot of people probably recognize you from 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.560 the project. Is I guess the biggesting you're probably doing 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.120 right now. It's on television on a weekly basis with 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.280 people like Carrie Bigmore, Willyaly and Lisa Wilkinson. Carrie Bigmore, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.000 you've worked with quite a bit. I've done a bit 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.920 of research. You've worked quite a bit with Carry Bigmore 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.200 and I have a lot of different things and we'll 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.520 jump into it, but we're gonna stay topical for the 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.600 first bit of this. You're wearing a Celtics hat and 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.679 I have to go into this because I know you're mad, 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.920 mad mad Celtics man. They're in the finals, your team 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.400 in the finals, the NBA Finals, and the biggest things 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:45.880 in the world. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:46.959 How are you feeling? Like? 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:48.720 We're about a week because this is being recorded a 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.320 bit earlier, but how are you feeling about. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.800 This when this goes out? I don't know what has happened. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.240 We had a day out from game one, and I'm 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.640 feeling excited. I always think, you know, to go back 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:05.600 to twenty eighteen. You know, it was obviously a tough day. 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.120 Two minutes I say, key, I'm saying the two minutes 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:09.440 away from being the greatest day of my life. This 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.080 is obviously calling goood West Coast grand fun. But I 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.880 always look back at it and I remind myself that 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.240 that week leading up to it and the game, which 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.560 you played a massive party in the day before, was 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:22.360 one of the greatest nights I've ever had at the football. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:27.480 So I think if you follow any team and the 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.200 only and you commit to, the only joy you get 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.880 out of it is if you win the whole thing, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.760 then you're not hiding to nothing. So I'm loving that 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.480 we did get to the Eastern Sorry that the championship. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.040 We won the Eastern Conference's We've had a couple of 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:48.000 gos recently. I love this team, particularly the Boston Celtics. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:52.360 They are They've been drafted to Boston, you know, as 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:56.639 have Golden State. But I love when Jannis went it 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.560 last year he kind of said it takes more to 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.440 build a team than actually you know, by one, and 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.440 it's really true. So full credit to Yannis last year. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.519 But I'm glad Brooklyn didn't get done. I'm glad the 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:11.320 Lakers didn't get it done. You know, I yeah, I love. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:15.040 It's a rookie coach, you know, they they changed the 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:16.919 way they played halfway through the year, or at least 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.000 a message got through from the coach to the players, 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.000 you know that it needs to be defense first. You know, 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.519 there was Boston fans but like Collingwood fans in a 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.680 way that can be pretty you know, full on. They're passionate. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.919 And some were saying they split up our two superstars 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.080 the Jays, Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown, you know, should 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.480 you trade Marcus Smart? And they just held their course. 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.840 They stayed patient, and we are, you know, one step away, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.360 one step away. We have a way. We haven't wonted 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:48.880 niting yet besides Thesetern Conference, but Banneraden hopefully is getting closer. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.640 I'm a massive fan of the Celtics myself, MICUs Smart 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.640 actually at my high school and I also played college 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.920 ball with them, so massive, massive Celtics. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:58.080 Man. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.360 I hate to break it to you, but I actually 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.720 don't think they're going to want to, but we'll find 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.600 out a week's time. We'll find out a week's time. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.280 We weren't all cut that out of the podcast. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.680 You but everyone, everyone, it's easy to jump on Golden State. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.880 They've been there before, they want it, They've got step Curry, 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.160 absolutely I get, and they've got home court advantage. Game 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.159 seven we've played in Golden State. If we get there, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.440 But I don't know. I feel like we met We 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.640 man up well against them. We smashed them in San 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.960 Francisco during the season. They got over the line against 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:31.320 us in a close game in Boston. So I don't know. 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.760 It's gonna be different than the games we've played against 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.279 Milwaukee and and Miami, the very physical games. This would 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.719 be I think slightly less physical but more tactical. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.400 Perhaps I love this because you actually know a lot 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.080 about the team. Now Here in Australia, there's a lot 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:46.160 of people. I don't know if you know this, but 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.240 a lot of people just wear hats with symbols and 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:48.920 logos of a team. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:49.720 Never know. You never know. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.840 As the to go, oh, yeah, you're a Celtics fan. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.000 Who the Celtics. Yeah, the blank look comes on their face. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.720 It's like, oh, okay, your uncle brought that back from America. 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.960 Fair enough, there's no no worse. Feeling a bigger fan 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.560 seeing that and going okay, maybe night. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:02.200 Yeah. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.840 Also you're massive fan Star Wars. Yes, there is o 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.120 we Wan kenobia right now. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.120 Oh so I just on it. I watched episode three 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.320 last night. Oh my god, have you an episode three? 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.520 So I watched the last night, absolutely happy it was. 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.440 I mean, I want to give away too much because 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.080 there's only some people listening that haven't seen it, but 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.400 there was something that happened in that episode that we've 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.120 all been waiting for for a very long time, and 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:24.760 it's the biggest question might probably go on into this 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.120 thing if this was going to happen, And it did. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.200 And it was so well done, and hopefully that's not 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:31.480 the end of it. Won't be the end of it. 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.719 And I feel like three more episodes is not enough. Yes, 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.200 So if they're not starting to work on series two, 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.080 shame on you. I interviewed you and McGregor a couple 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.040 of weeks ago, and I said, are we going to 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.040 see you know, the duel? Because you know Obi Wan 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.640 versus Dart in the original nineteen seventy seven. That was 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.520 a new hope. You know, it's emotional and it means 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.360 a lart, but it's not. It's a sixty eight year 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.120 old man versus a guy in a suit. That's a bit, 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.120 you know, cumbersome. So it's and he said, well, we've 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.000 come a long way since then, and you know, as 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.400 we saw with Darth Maul and and Obi Wan and 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.679 quie Gin or Quiegen I forget his name, lean listen, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.520 you know, like they were doing summersaults and all of 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.520 a sudden, you know. So, But what I loved about it, 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.280 and that's a quick spoiler. I mean this just just 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.880 pressed thirty seconds a couple of times and yeah, yeah, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.880 forward forward, yeah, forward forward. So Darth Vader's in it, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.719 and this is gonna happen, so it's not a big spoiler. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.719 But what I loved about it was he And I've 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.920 always wanted to see Darth Vader when he's at his 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:38.120 absolute asshole bests, you know, like when he's absolutely evil like, 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.840 and he's certainly evil and scary when we meet him 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.200 in Star Wars, but I wanted to see when he's 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.279 at his height and he's at his apex of his evil, 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.679 and I feel like this is like he's just cracking 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.560 next and he came to and he just felt you 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.880 saw Obi Wan fear him, you know, And I love that. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:58.080 And I just thought and that that when the fight 0:06:58.120 --> 0:06:59.880 started and he's almost crept up on him and it 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:02.320 was starting, it was on and then the fire, it 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:06.040 was just next love. It was incredible. It's the best episode. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.720 Three was the best episode of any of the standalone 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.680 series Andalauri and everything else. Absolutely, Mandline final episode of 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.000 menaurin series two is in the conversation. But I thought 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.680 last night was absolutely I think because this is more connected, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.440 even though obviously Luke and that was in Mandalorian and 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.680 and and that, But this is more connected to the 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:30.040 original trilogy, I think. And so it's got our our 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.360 emotional investment pretty quickly. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.320 And all the big names are in there, Layer, Luke, 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.240 everything else, everything goes in the play and it all 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:37.760 kind of ties it up really well. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.800 I think, Yeah, it's really good. There's three episodes. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.760 Laugh, we're in the We're ignorant still the second half 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:43.320 of this whole thing. 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.240 You be listening to this going, oh, you guys don't 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.720 even know what's ahead of you. I mean, layer is 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.240 La was a lovely touch, and I, you know, I 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.240 saw something on Twitter kind of said me today, I 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.200 wasn't into It's Disney with a cute kid, and it's like, yeah, 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.680 but and they made the point she does run away 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.280 from maybe one a little bit too easily, and I 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:01.960 get that, but it's like, if that's going to ruin 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.720 your like love of this franchise, and even you know 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.000 you have episode three to come, then you know that's 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.800 that's that's that's on you. That's on you. Yeah, the 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.480 minor gripes. So I think you should be able to 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.360 get over because Star Wars isn't it has never been perfect. 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.000 I agree, it's never been perfect, but it is one 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.680 of the most iconic things that's ever been built, and 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.160 it's it's an amazing thing to see Disney kind of 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.080 go back and start kind of really telling these stories 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.320 and everything else. But we'll move on because people will 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.040 probably hit forward a few more times. But you're also 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.520 doing a podcast. I want to shout this out because 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.439 I want to support other people that are doing amazing things. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.920 You're doing podcasts, shouted out, what is it called? You 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.640 ain't seen nothing yet? And give us a bit of 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.000 a background on it. It's a podcast. Were atchat to 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.199 a movie lover about a classic movie they haven't seen 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.280 and basically until now, so they watch it either the 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.640 morning of the night before, we chat and we talk 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.160 about it. So we've had people like Judith Lucy had 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.760 never seen the Sound of Music, Tony Martin had never 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:04.640 seen Top Gun, Cilly Picole hadn't seen Jaws. We've had 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.120 an amazing Osha Ginsburg did Roman Holiday. Like it's been, 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:12.760 it's quite a wide gamut of films that we've done. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.280 We've done Get Out, a more recent film with Matt Preston. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.080 You know, we've done The Terminator recently. So it's it's 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.679 it's been. It's I love cinema and I always have 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.000 people say, oh, you're such a film buff and you know, 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.760 and I was like, yeah, but there's so many things 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.280 I haven't seen. So part of it was for me 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:35.200 that during Lockdown I started that was just to celebrate 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.160 the joy of cinema and and but also to catch 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.719 up on films that I actually hadn't seen. And it's 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.719 when you were watching a film knowing you're going to 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.280 have to talk about it, that you watch it a 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:45.720 little bit differently, and you take and you do a 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.480 bit more research about you know, the history of the 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.120 film and and you know the character, yeah, and some 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.120 of the trivia behind it. And it's and it's great 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:54.720 because we I think we have this romantic idea that 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.240 we go to movies and then we'll go to a 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.000 cafe with our friends, we'll talk about the movie. We'll 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.360 go to a wine bar and talk about that. It 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.400 never happens. I'm a comedian. I usually can see a 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.360 movie by myself at ten thirty or eleven o'clock in 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.080 the morning, you know, with six other people in the cinema, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.839 and then I you know, I may occasionally walk by 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.319 somebody in the corridor for three minutes and say I've 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.199 be seen, you know, everything everywhere all at once, and 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:15.880 I like, yeah, how good was that. It's like, okay, 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.679 we'll go get back to work, you know. So it's 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.959 kind of it was about having a conversation, you know, 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.880 with somebody I admire and like and who love movies. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:30.160 And it's been the reaction has been beautiful. We've had 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.480 this gorgeous reaction. We did a live show that Judiful 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.760 Lucy at the Melbourne Comedy festival and just walking on stage, 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.640 the cheer and the warmth that were coming from those 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.720 who had been obviously been following the podcast and we're 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.040 now seeing it live was just it was one of 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.840 the nicest feelings I've had for a long time. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.720 That's beautiful, man, you toasted on it. Melbourne Comedy Festival. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.000 We'll get straight out to this because this is something 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.040 very well known for. You have an amazing you know, 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.480 skid out right now called Loopy. It's on Paramount Plus. Yeah, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.040 it's a bit of a little shout out also, thank 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.440 you check it out. But you've been doing comedy for 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.360 a long time and that was see the last two 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:04.719 years taken away a bit. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:05.600 I want to go back. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.800 How was the feeling going back to the Melbourne and 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.280 Arsenal Comedy Festival and being able to see all that 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.480 and have all your friends doing their skits and everything else, 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.840 and having everyone be able to go back and do 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.480 that again after being off for two year. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.080 Yeah, I think you hit on something. I think that's 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:24.160 really important. It really was just the being around comedians 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.480 again doing what we do, you know, being on stage, 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:32.200 being at festivals, and because I was in Adelaide when 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.439 everything kind of got shut down at the Fringe Festival 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.080 Adelaide Fringe in twenty twenty, was fortunate enough to get 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:42.120 through their entire run, which is about five weeks, and 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:46.480 I was there with other comedians who, you know, people 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:53.000 like Tom Ballard, Nathan Valvo and Edmunds and these were 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:59.920 largely people who really Sam Thornton, who really were relying 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:05.000 on touring, you know, you know, to make their make 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:09.199 their living. I was, you know, I don't necessarily rely 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.640 on my touring to make my living. I'm fortunate enough 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:17.439 to have the project and some other projects that that 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.920 that you know, that pay my way in a way. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.960 So that was kind of pretty gut wrenching knowing that 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.080 there were friends who what does this mean for them? 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:35.200 So everyone pivoted, everyone diversified everyone. There were Zoom gigs 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.320 that we all pretended we were awesome, but we're kind of, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.600 you know, pretty hard. I think, you know, when you 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.720 take that audience away and it's not the same. I 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.880 couldn't some committees really, you know, Kersey Webeck did really 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:51.000 great these really great comedy gigs on Zoom that people loved, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.199 and that was really important. And Kursey was amazing during 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:58.560 the pandemic. But I I just couldn't convince myself that 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.120 it was good for me to be doing those things, 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.640 just just because we all had to look at what 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:07.160 is good for me. I wanted to spread content, so 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.440 I did. I started doing Strongy videos again. I started 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.360 doing little pictures of pub crawls around the house with 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.360 my wife. You know. I started the podcast. You know, 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.040 we did a segment on the project called Life in Lockdown, 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:24.079 which is viral Wednesday continue. Yeah, it runs you Wednesday 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:30.840 maysoys it's such an obvious set. I can't believe people 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.440 haven't done that before. So it was important for me 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.600 to put content out in the world. But I just 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:41.120 decided that zoom gigs weren't for me. So so to 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.959 answer your question, to be back on stage, and I've 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.400 been like the Queensland now about six or seven times 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.600 this year. I've been the Adelaide Fringe, I've been over 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.360 to Perth, I've been in all the States, been then 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.880 the Tazzi and in Sydney, and I've done it all 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.240 and it's it's been awesome to be back on stage. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.719 It is a great feeling in the order adience that 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:07.040 they love being back and and you know, comedians were 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.200 talking throughout the pandemic and it was like, people are 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:10.640 going to want to hear about the pandemic when we 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:14.160 come out of it, and the same rules exist as before. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.680 If it's funny, they're happy to hear about it. Yeah. Yeah, 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.960 So I've been doing quite a lot about the pandemic, 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.400 more so about my own COVID experience and a little 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:27.440 bit of anti VAXXS stuff, and it still it rings true. Yeah. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:28.920 Well, I kind of ask you a bit of a 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.240 question because I'm terrible telling jokes, Like I'm absolutely dreadful, 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:36.120 and as a comedian, obviously it's storytelling one on one, 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.840 and I want to know, is there a secret kind 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.080 of not probably secret, but is there a formula to 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.720 setting up a joke, getting the punchline, and like going 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.000 through that process to really get a crowd to get 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:47.720 a laugh out of them? 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.960 Well, is storytelling? That's it's good that you mentioned that, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.840 like that's one of these but I a would I'm 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.960 not sure there's a formula. So, I mean, there's certainly 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.760 kind of you know, some rules you're going to learn, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.240 all tricks that you learn along the way, But I 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.440 would say the best thing of advice I can give 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.760 somebody starting out, and I have to remind myself of 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.240 this is the way you get into a joke is 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.520 as important as the way you come out of it, 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.280 for example, or easier. You know, the setup is as 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.760 important as the punchline. Yeah, so you may have a 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.080 punchline it's not working. You can't think it's a good punchline. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.280 Why isn't it working. It's probably because outside of maybe 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.400 the idea isn't funny that you know. But sometimes yeah, yeah, 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:29.760 pretty good in these things over the years ago, and 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.120 this should be working. Wise in this working, and often 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.960 it is something wrong with the way you are setting 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.920 it up, and it could be like it could just 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.080 been a bit of information that the audience needs to, 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.000 you know, hang on to, or you should make it 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.280 more personal. There as sometimes reasons why comedians say something 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:48.720 funny happened to me on the way to the gig, 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.800 because because it makes it feel like it's more immediate 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:57.760 and it just happened. Or a comedian might here, you know, 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.400 know that this happened to a friend of his, So 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.480 they're going to make it seem like it happened to them, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.760 And it's just that is just a way of kind 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.000 of going, I'm just going to cut through and not 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.360 distract you with the idea that you are imagining as 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.120 somebody else. You know, it's going to be more personal 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.880 to me. So there are things that you know, you 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.680 know that you can look at when you put the 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.360 hood up on a joke and see what's wrong with 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.000 it to work out? You know, why isn't why it 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:21.520 isn't working. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.680 Obviously, today things get taken very seriously. There's this cancel culture, 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.520 all this kind of stuff. How hard is it to 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.960 be able to be a comedian in today's world where 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.360 you're probably afraid that everything that comes out in your 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.280 mouth is going to be dissected to the nth degree 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.240 and you might offend whoever it is out there. Like, 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.000 it's going to be a tough thing to be able 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:41.640 to navigate. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.360 Yeah, I mean I personally, I love the challenge of it. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.480 I don't I like I like that when I do 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:54.600 a stand up show, it is a time capsule of 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.520 that time. And I remember doing your early stand up 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.720 shows when I was talking about text messaging and it 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.960 was material. I was like, this is cool, this is 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.600 like not everyone's even got the phones yet you know, 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.800 and and I was doing stuff about you know how 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.359 walking while sex messaging slows you down because you know, 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.800 you know, you know, and that kind of stuff, and 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.439 and you know, and that is of that time. And 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.800 and then you know, even if you go about not 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.840 that many years ago, I was doing a show called 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.199 One Hot Mess, and that was you know, and I 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:24.840 did the show called One Hot Mess and the two years, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.480 like I usually, it was show for two years because 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.240 I allow me to evolve, and I allow the world 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.439 to evolve and change, and then I can kind of 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.160 have enough distance to kind of comment on it. And 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.199 from between One hot Mess and Big Boy Pants, I 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:41.720 think like it went from like Donald Trump wasn't in 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.320 my in my thoughts or considerations at all. In One 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.320 hot Mess and Big Boy Pants, it's like Donald Trump's 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.160 president and same sex marriage is legal. You know, it's great. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.680 So so you know, the world changes so quickly, so 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.560 I think it's good to see them through the prism. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.320 I've stand up comedy. That's where I think sometimes when 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.439 you go back and find a show and kind of 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:00.919 go look at or a tweeting, you kind of go 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.000 look at that person said in two thousand and five. 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.280 So yeah, the person's a different person seventeen years ago. 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.119 So we need to let people evolve and people I 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.560 teach my kids you goin to make a mistake as 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.960 long as you acknowledge it and move on. I think 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.760 another word for political correctness is decency. And I think 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:23.240 it's just about being decent with each other. And I 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.320 think I do this in loopy. I say, you know 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.760 that maybe we stop using terms like politically correct or 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.560 work or cancel culture and it's court decency or inclusion 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.000 or kindness. It's it's hard to weaponize those words. You 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.359 can weaponize, you know, the word woke, but you can't 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.440 weaponize the word decency. You can't say you can even 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.800 try it. You can go gets stuff. Yeah your kind 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:46.840 prick and it's like that doesn't work. You know, that 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:51.240 doesn't work at all. So so yeah, it's listen, comedy 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.639 is changing, but I love that it's changing. If we 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.399 were still doing mother in law gags and and the 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.199 fat people gags and you know, comedy would be poor 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:00.800