1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers Now. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: Well today at Happy Families, it's a big day. Today 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: is the Raising Resilient Kid's Summit. If you haven't already 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 2: gotten on board, it's not too late. We do have 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: access available right now via our Facebook page, Doctor Justin 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Collson's Happy Families and our website happyfamilies dot com dot au. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: It starts well, I guess it depends on when you're 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: listening to this podcast, but it starts this morning if 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: you're listening live. Oh and I should also mention you 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: don't have to watch the whole thing. In fact, you 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: don't even have to attend it live. We're going to 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: be putting all of the conversations behind a podcast paywall, 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: and everyone who has signed up for the Summit gets 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: to listen at their leisure. Alternatively, you can take the 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: day off and watch one talk after another after another. 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: They're going to be great conversations. Speaking with Maggie Dent, 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: We're talking with Harvard's doctor Robert Brooks, the guy who 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: literally wrote the book about resilience. We're talking with Jessica 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: Lay New York Times best selling author of the Gift 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: of Failure. Alfie Kohane is joining us and I'm just 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: such a great list of so many great people. I 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: can't wait to get into it. Kylie, what do you 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: think about when you think about resilience? 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 3: Well, I was actually going to ask you. We talk 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 3: about resilience all the time, but what's a really succinct 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: definition of resilience? 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: That's what the whole day is all about. There's a 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: handful things that I would say make up resilience. The 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: thing that people talk about most is when you bounce 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: back from adversity. But I don't feel like that's an 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: adequate or even necessarily a helpful definition of resilience because 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: when you think about adversity in your life, how often 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: do you just bounce back, Like something hard happens and 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: you bounce back to be who you were. 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: It just doesn't resonate for me. 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever bounced. 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: That's right. People don't bounce. That's right. 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 3: Number one, I haven't bounced, and number two, I don't 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: ever come back the same person, because adversity actually changes 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: who I am. 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: That's right. 43 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: Because we're such complex systems, right, We're not the rubber 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: bouncy ball that literally you drop it and it bounces back. 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 2: Where that we've got the psychology and the emotion, the cognition, 46 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: and the social side of things. 47 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: There's so much going on. 48 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: So the way that I usually define resilience is it's 49 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: avoiding maladaptive outcomes, which is oh, depression, stress, anxiety, freaking out, anger, 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: crawling into your shell, giving up. They're typically considered maladaptive outcomes. 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: Now I also should highlight sometimes they're completely adaptive outcomes, 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: depending on the random adverse experience we're having. Sometimes climbing 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: under the covers and hiding is a perfectly rational and 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: adaptive thing to do, but not usually. Sometimes giving up 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: is a perfectly rational and adaptive thing to do, but 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: not always. So it's avoiding the maladaptive outcomes and experiencing 57 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: adaptive outcomes when things go wrong, when things are bad, 58 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: when things are tough. 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: So when you say all that, the word that keeps 60 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: coming to me is having hope. Yeah, we can't ever 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: avoid adversity like that is a part of the human experience. 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: Guarantee to experience it and have a sense of hope 63 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: that things will get better to me would be to 64 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: be resilient. 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: So we haven't planned this conversation, but I just love 66 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 2: what you've said. It ties in with two things that 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: are really important. First off, when we define hope in 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: a psychology context, there's something that's out there called hope theory. 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: To wonderful, wonderful beauty good men and fabulous researchers, a 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: guy called C. R. Snyder and Shane Lopez. They're both 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: deceased now, but they were brilliant, brilliant researchers, and they 72 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: developed this hope theory which argues that there are three 73 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: elements that are necessary for hope. The first is that 74 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: you have to have a goal, like goal striving, working 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: towards and out. You can't have hope if you're not 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: hopeful about something, right, I mean, it's an irreducible element 77 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: of being hopeful is having something that you're hoping for. 78 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: The second thing, though, is critically important, that is pathways 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: to that goal or to that thing that is hoped for. 80 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: If you're hoping for something but you have no way 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: of getting there, you will not feel hopeful. You will 82 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: feel hope hopeless. Yeah, and so not longer do you 83 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: have to have something that you're working towards you need 84 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: to have a way to get there. But they also 85 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: identified just those two things in and of themselves are 86 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: not enough to give us hope. There has to be 87 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: a third thing, and that third thing they describe as 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: agency or efficacy. That is, do I believe that I 89 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: have the power in me the capacity to walk down 90 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: that pathway towards that goal? And if I walk down 91 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: the pathway and the pathway gets closed off for a second, 92 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: do I believe that another pathway will open up, that 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: I can find another pathway that I can blame my 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: own trail. So when we have those three things, we 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: have hope. And when you think about it, based on 96 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: what you've just described, somebody who's resilient, they are the 97 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: kind of person who has hope. 98 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: That is, they believe that there is. 99 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: A thing that's worth pursuing, there's a way to get there, 100 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: and they believe they can. And people who lack resilience 101 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: either don't have anything they're working for, don't think they 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: can get there, or don't believe that. 103 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: They can they can. Yeah, really, I think really important. Now. 104 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: The second thing that ties in with that that I'm 105 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: so glad you mentioned it is the word that I 106 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: like to use for resilience, or a synonym for it, 107 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: I guess, is optionality. So if I'm a person who 108 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: is resilient when things get tough, I see that I 109 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: have options. If I'm not resilient when things get tough, 110 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: I throw my hands up in the air and say, 111 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: this always happens to me, nothing ever works out. I 112 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: have no options. I can't figure. I feel that's exactly right. 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: So to me, developing resilience in kids is actually about saying, 114 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: what are your options? And of course, if your kids 115 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: aren't feeling and resilient, you know what they say, we 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: don't have any God do anything I've got. I've got 117 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: no options. Therefore, our role as parents is to help 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: them to find options, not show them the options, not 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: hand them the options, but help them to discover options. 120 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: And as we do that, we do what you so 121 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: beautifully highlighted so eloquently with one word you said, hope. 122 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: What we do when we show or help our kids 123 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: to find and discover options is we become hope builders. 124 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: So the other day I had the opportunity to attend 125 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: Emily's Cross Country. 126 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 2: So, for those who are new to the podcast, Emily's 127 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: our youngest, our nine year old daughter, and. 128 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: She has a friend in her class who's actually a 129 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: year older than her, so she wasn't running in the 130 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: same race. 131 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. 132 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: So Emily had her race, she came through, she was great, 133 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: and then we decided that we would stay so we 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: could watch her friend. 135 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: So let's just call her friend Sarah for privacy reasons. 136 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: Okay, and Sarah's mum wasn't able to be there, so 137 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to get a little bit of footage of 138 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: Sarah running a race and just participating it. Well, we 139 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: got close to the finish line, there's probably about two 140 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: hundred meters left of the race, and we could see 141 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: Sarah off in the distance and she kind of just 142 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: lost all interest in the race. She was off the 143 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: side of the track and she was looking at trees 144 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: and you know, playing with the. 145 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: Grass, and so was she not running at all. 146 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: She'd completely stopped, completely stopped. Emily saw what was going 147 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: on and she just said, hey, mom, I'm just going 148 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: to go and help Sarah. And so the next thing 149 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: she runs over, so she's not in the track, she's 150 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 3: along the side of the track and she's just said, Sarah, 151 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: come on with you're so close. Let's just finish this race. 152 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: And I saw Sarah look at her and she kind 153 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: of went, oh, but you know, and she's obviously talking 154 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: about whatever she's seen in the tree, and Emily's like, no, no, no, 155 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: come on, let's go, let's go. And so over the 156 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: next few minutes, I saw Emily really work to encourage 157 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: Sarah to make it to the finish line, and she 158 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: got within about probably twenty meters and she left Sarah 159 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: and said, it's your turn. Keep going, and Sarah ran 160 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: through the finish line, and we all were able to kind. 161 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: Of cheer on that story. It's so cool. 162 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: And as we were talking about this idea of being 163 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: a hope builder, I think that so many of our 164 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: children struggle with resilience because it is something that we learn, 165 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: it's not something we're born with. And just like Emily 166 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: had to encourage Sarah to actually make it to the 167 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: finish line, our job as parents is to encourage our 168 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 3: kids to help them so that they will get to 169 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: a place in their lives where they can actually do 170 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: it for themselves. 171 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a couple of things in this beautiful 172 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 2: so I love this story. 173 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: A couple of things that. 174 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: I have to draw out and get really specific about. 175 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: First off, resilience is typically not always, but typically relational. 176 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 2: That is, we are much more likely to persist, do 177 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: hard things, overcome adversity, get through challenges when there is someone, 178 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: when there's an Emily in our life who says, you 179 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: can get to the finish line, You've got this, let's 180 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 2: do it together. And that's the second thing. Not only 181 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 2: is it relational, but when you think about your life 182 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,359 Speaker 2: and you think about the times where you've faced adversity, 183 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: quite often the person beside you they can't do what 184 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: you have to do, but they've taken every step beside you. 185 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: There's that It's not just that it's relational, there's a 186 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: level of involvement. 187 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: Emily was invested, Yeah, Sarah, she was invested in seeing 188 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: her finish like that was really important. And there were 189 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: so many times through that you know, two hundred meters 190 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: that they ran together where Sarah was just like, I 191 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: can't do this, it's too hard, you know, and she'd 192 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: kind of stop and take a few steps of just walking, 193 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: and Emily was right there, just going, no, come on, 194 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: we can do this, Let's do it. And you'd see 195 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: that spurt of energy as she kind of kicked started 196 00:09:59,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: her again. 197 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: So I love what Emily's the specific words she's used, we, 198 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: Even though it's really Sarah who's got to run the race, 199 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: there's we. And that's so different to saying you can 200 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: do this, because when it's you, it feels like it's 201 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: you on your own and you're feeling incompetent, you're feeling 202 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: like it's too hard, you're feeling like you don't have hope, 203 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: and it's just beyond you. So we've got this word WI, 204 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: so important for resilience, so important for relationships, and we've 205 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: got the involvement that's happening where I mean, let's say 206 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: you've got a child who's really struggling. Instead of saying 207 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: get up, tough, en up, get on with it, saying 208 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: let's figure this out, let's do it together. I mean, 209 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: to me, that is just so fundamental to growth. And 210 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: what happens then is that there's a development of competence 211 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: and capability. The child goes I can do that, they 212 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: do feel good and they know that they did it. 213 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we could just pick that apart. 214 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: I love the story. I'm so glad you shared it again. Unscripted. 215 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: The Raising Resilient Kids Summit is on today. We've shared 216 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: a couple of really useful ideas that can help you 217 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: to raise resilient kids, and you don't have to do 218 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 2: the summit to get that information, but if you'd like 219 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: to join us today, there's me. I'm doing a presentation 220 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: to kick things off, Maggie Dent, Jessica lay Like I said, 221 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 2: New York Times bestselling author Oh doctor Laura Markham. Doctor 222 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 2: Laura has this thing online called Aha Parenting. She is 223 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: literally one of the world's most loved parenting experts and 224 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: she's so kindly joined us. Doctor Robert Brooks from Hubbard 225 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: Alfie Kohane, who's written Punished by Rewards. He's got so 226 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: many insightful things to say about resilience. And we've also 227 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: got a former Australian Comic of the Year Marty Wilson, 228 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: futurist Michael McQueen, tech guru Yasmine London, James Anderson talking 229 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: about learnership and helping kids to succeed academically and. 230 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: A whole lot more. 231 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: The day kicks off well, hopefully if you're listening to 232 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: this early real soon and you can still register now 233 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: at happy families dot com dot Au or just Google 234 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: Raising Resilient Kids Summit and Happy Families that'll give you 235 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: everything need to join us. It would be so good 236 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: to have you as part of what's going to be 237 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: an absolutely brilliant day. It's the Raising Resilient Kids Summit, 238 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: presented by Happy Families dot com dot Au. Hey, thanks 239 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: for listening to the Happy Families Podcast today. A little 240 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: bit of a cell compared to what we normally do, 241 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: but hopefully some great ideas. 242 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: For you tomorrow. 243 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: It's all do better tomorrow, Kylie and I talking about 244 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: the stuff that we've done well. 245 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: Kylie, I hope you've got a great story for us. 246 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can match that awesome little 247 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: story they've just shared about Emily and Sarah. But that's 248 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: all tomorrow and the Happy Families Podcast. We will speak 249 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: with you there.