1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Now we know that. Last week it was reported there's 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: a member of Luke Gosling's staff and the president of 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Territory Labour's youth wing, resigned from his job after a 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: social media video surfaced showing him allegedly snorting a white substance. Now, 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: the video was reportedly posted to Snapchat last October and 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: shows the Northern Territory Young Labor president with this substance 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: on a table and then well appearing to snort it 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: through a fifty dollars zero. Now joining me on the 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: show is the member for Solomon, Luke Gosling. Good morning 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: to you, Luke. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Now, Luke, it is understood that this video was shot 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: in October twenty twenty two months after the election, but 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: it was shared on this social media a year later. 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: At what point did you become aware that your staff 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: member was in this video allegedly with drugs? 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: When my chief of staff contacted me and said, well, 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: I was down in Canberra for sittings for the last 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: two weeks and said this had happened. But I want 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: to thank you Katie for not mentioning this young fellow's name. 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: I think he's already been dragged through the media enough 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: he offered me, apologized to me that this had sort 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: of happened, and offered to resign, and I accepted that resignation. 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: But I've been checking in with him to see if 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: he's a right caught up with him last night, and 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 3: you know, I think he's going to learn a lot 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: from these lessons and he needs to. 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: So, I mean, what was your reaction when you found out. 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 1: I would imagine that you were pretty disappointed. 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, of course, you know, he's a very intelligent 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: and talented young man and he will go a long 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: way if he learns these lessons. And obviously it's disappointing 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: when a member of your staff in the media for 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: all the wrong reasons, when we're trying to talk about 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: all our positive plans for the future, and we had 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: elbow here on the weekend, We've there's been election commitments. 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: We've obviously trying to put a spotlight so that territory 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: ends can see what sort of what sort of wedging 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: sort of tactics that the federal government use in that 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: they announce a lot of stuff, never follow through and 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: then try and find ways to sort of divide and 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: split the community. So there's I've got some big responsibility. 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: So I was obviously a distraction and glad it's behind 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: us now. 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: So I just want to ask, is he still the 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: president of the Young Labor Party. 47 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that question, Katie. I 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: don't get involved in the party issues to that extent, 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: as you would have heard other MPs say, we're incredibly 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: busy doing our job, which is to make sure that 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: the territory gets the best possible deal from from. 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: From Canberra and from from politics. 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: I guess, you know. I guess the thing is people 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: will be wondering, if he's no longer working in your office, 55 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: should he still be the president of Young Labor And 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: is it really you know, the what Young Labor wants 57 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: to present. 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the party's working through that and their questions 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: you can put to them now. 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: You mentioned that obviously you met with him last night. 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: How is he going? 62 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he's going all right. 63 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: I think it's been a difficult time for him, but 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: you know, they're the consequences of his actions. He's got 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: to learn those lessons. And yeah, I think there's much 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: bigger things that we need to be talking about because 67 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: our country faces enormous challenges. Our economy faces enormous challenges. 68 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: We just had the Chamber of Commerce on talking about 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: jobs and need for jobs and need for investment. So 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: that's where my focus is and needs to be, and 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: the party will look after its own processes. 72 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: Luke, have you had to have a further look into 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: the way that you recruit staff for or you know, 74 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: how your starf for operate following on from this incident. 75 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously there's. 76 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: Reflection on when things like this happened about you know 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: what could have been us. But you know, when you 78 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: when you have someone who's highly recommended and obviously highly capable, 79 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: and you've been recommended by people that you that you respect, 80 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: and then something else comes out of the blue from 81 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: when someone was very young. We must also say not 82 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: to excuse the behavior, but all of these things just 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: come together into what has been a disappointment, but something 84 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: we're definitely moving on from because we've got a big job. 85 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: We've got a federal election coming up. The territory needs 86 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: more serious investment, not just more announcements by the government 87 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: that are never followed through on. 88 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: Well, look, Luke, I can tell I know that you're 89 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: obviously keen to talk about other things, but I do 90 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: want to ask, and I know that this is something 91 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: that the CLP has been questioning over the last couple 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: of weeks. Does the Labor Party have an issue with drugs? No, none, whatsoever. 93 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: No, Katie. 94 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: And obviously tomorrow there might be, you know, because someone 95 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: out there that wants to do the Chief Minister harm 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: has got another photo. But from what I know, from 97 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 3: what I've seen of the conduct of people in the party, 98 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: you've just got people who want to working people to 99 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: have a better deal. They want good health services, they 100 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: want jobs. You know, jobs is where it's at. And 101 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: I'll leave all the other politics and carry on to 102 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: others because I'm cracking on with the job, all right. 103 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: I do want to talk to you about an issue 104 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: which has certainly sort of you know, made headlines for 105 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: us over the last couple of weeks, and that is 106 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: some of the staffing concerns and also pressures on the 107 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: Northern territories hospitals. I know that last week obviously both 108 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister and the Opposition leader we're in Darwin. 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: They're answering questions on the show about some of those issues. Look, 110 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: do we need additional funding for the Northern Territories hospitals 111 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: or do you think what we've got at the moment 112 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: is enough. 113 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the hospital is under pressure. Obviously we've had the 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: added difficulties that have come with with COVID, and you 115 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: know we need it to open up. And now that 116 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: we have, obviously there are people who are getting unwell. 117 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: Generally people aren't getting too unwell, which is obviously fantastic 118 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: and thanks to all the Territorians out there and the 119 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: health workers that have just done a sterling effort. You know, 120 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: if you're ever getting cranky about having a mask on 121 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: and it is annoying, but if you do get cranky 122 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: about that, just remember all those health professionals have had 123 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: all this ppe on and been wearing it for just 124 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: years now. So I want to give them a big 125 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 3: shout out. And yes, we do need more funding in 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: our health services and federal labor. 127 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: As everyone would know. 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 3: Not only do we back Medicare and stop it from 129 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: being torn down by the Tories by the Coalition, but 130 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: we haven't been Obviously, nine years we've been out of 131 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: office and there has been cuts to Medicare, but we'll 132 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: always protect Medicare, will make sure that our health and 133 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: hospitals system is funded. You'd remember, Caddy that I personally 134 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: got next to extra seventy million dollars for the Parmesan Hospital. 135 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: Kevin Rudd's government gave us a GP superclinic ad in 136 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: Parmeston and we're making sure there's good health services for 137 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: Aboriginal Territorians, Aboriginal medical services to make sure that they're 138 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: healthy and well and out of the hospital system. 139 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: Can we expect any further commitments from. 140 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: And that lead up to the election, Absolutely, there'll be 141 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: more to say. We've got to remember there's it's three 142 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: months until the election. 143 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Well do we even have a date yet? Look clear 144 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: about it. 145 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in this pseudo campaign phase at the moment 146 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: where you know the Prime Minister Scott Morrison really has 147 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: failed on quarantine, failed on vaccines, failed on rats and 148 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: basically has meant that our community and I'm talking around 149 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: us Australia has been shut down. It's an enormous damage 150 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: to business as it's really hit the tourism ministry hard. 151 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: But now what he figures is if he pushes out 152 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: to the last possible minute he can call an election. 153 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: Something might happen in the meantime like a conflict or something. 154 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: You can well and see him ramping up the talk 155 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: about conflicts. 156 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: But what they do is they wedge. 157 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: They just find ways to divide people and that is 158 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: not leadership. 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: Well, we will wait and see exactly what data that 160 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: election is called Luke. Obviously all eyes are on Russia 161 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: and the Ukraine at the moment. National security it is 162 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: something that is it seems to be at the four 163 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: in Australia right now. We know over the weekend obviously 164 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: it was reported the Chinese Navy used a military grade 165 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: laser to attack a Royal Australian Air Force plane. Looke. 166 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: How do you see Darwin in all of this uncertainty. 167 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that there is as much uncertainty or 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: do you feel as though it is something that's just 169 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: being ramped up by the PM. 170 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: Of course, there is great uncertainty in the world at 171 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: the moment. You've got two big powers, Russia and China, 172 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: who are more aggressive in their foreign policy than they 173 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: have been in terms of crimea and concerns about the 174 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: future of security in the South China Sea. I think 175 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: what I'm really impressed by is the way that we've 176 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: continued to and I'm talking about the heads of our 177 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: national security agencies continue to say to politicians and directly 178 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: to the Prime Minister, let's not split on national security 179 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: because the only people that that helps is our adversaries 180 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: or our potential adversaries. We need to be united as 181 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: a country because we do face big challenges and that 182 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 3: is why the Defense Force is separate from politics. They 183 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: do their job for Australia. So Elbows made that clear 184 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: when he was up here on the weekend. He actually 185 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: turned up to eightieth anniversary memorial services to the Peri, 186 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: unlike the Prime Minister. But I'm not going to get 187 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: focused on that. What I want the Prime Minister to 188 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: do is to probably for once in his career, lead 189 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: to show leadership instead of dividing the country and on 190 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: national security. The labor will always stand up for our 191 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: principles and our values and we'll make sure the Defense 192 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: Force has got enough budget and wherewithal to do its 193 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: job properly. But at the moment, Katie, we haven't got 194 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: submarines in ten years time and that's a disgrace. 195 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: Well, Luke Gosling, you can certainly tell there is an 196 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: election not too far away. Always good to catch up 197 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: with you. I really appreciate your time this morning. 198 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Katie. Look forward to talking about other issues 199 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: another time. 200 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: Thank you.